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He can secure more guaranteed money than he's currently owed. It's really that simple.

but i dont think he is leaving PHX. The only thing i can see is what many posters above said. Paul opts out and Sarver gets cheap. That said i cant see how you can even try to sell that to fans. You are the title favorite this year, if you win and Paul opts out are you really going to let him walk away.

is classic 'leak a story to the press to improve the market for your client'.

Paul is opting out and resigning. Rumors of other teams are to drive up the price for PHO, IMO.

by a pretty good Knicks content creator who recently joined the fray. I think he gets a little carried away with the possible trade up for Suggs, but otherwise it’s worth a listen.
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I'm curious to see what Sarver does; I am of the belief CP3 opts out too. Sarver is notorious for being cheap as hell & Phoenix gave Booker a max deal & Deandre is going to merit serious coin too...it'll be interesting to see what the Suns end up doing.

basically means they're in the national team pool and get to scrimmage with the US Olympic team in Vegas leading up to the Olympics. Can't hurt.
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Looking like Bucks/Suns in the Finals.

Early exits for Brooklyn and Philly, Hawks get beat (eventually), and now CP3 or Giannis gets a legacy changing title. Worked out pretty well after the Knicks’ no-show in round one.

to Hair Club for Men? They're playing off him and daring him to take long jumpers, which he doesn't want to do. He either takes the long shot or tries to drive into a collapsed defense with Bucks all over the place.

The Knicks just couldn't figure that out.

Milwaukee up eight with three minutes left.

Let’s get that over with and move on to the usual off-season craziness.

they (Hawks) went a long way when the Nets and Sixers didn't.

Bucks are the East reps in the finals - I have no problem with that.

The finals will be interesting. Actually, if the Knicks hadn't revived this year I'd probably have no interest, but now I'm thinking about the Knicks as a playoff team again next year (which I think they'll be).

But he is going to want a 3 year max deal.
I could see PHX not want to do that long of a deal at max money.
They have a lot of youth to pay over the next couple of years.
The Knicks will be leverage CP3 on any deal he gets.
I don't want him on the Knicks for 3 years max money either but Rose might do that deal.
Fingers crossed he reups in PHX.

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But he is going to want a 3 year max deal. I could see PHX not want to do that long of a deal at max money. They have a lot of youth to pay over the next couple of years. The Knicks will be leverage CP3 on any deal he gets. I don't want him on the Knicks for 3 years max money either but Rose might do that deal. Fingers crossed he reups in PHX.

Can I just ask, why are your posts so weird? You and Carson53.
Every sentence needs its own line?
I don't understand.
Your posts are interesting due to their content.
But it's like ham n egger stuff.
And there are a shitload of errors both in content and grammar.
I'm so confused.
But that's not surprising, right?
Cool.

He said the Atlanta crowd didn't feel like it was as fired up as it should have been for an elimination game

Without Robinson but with a healthy Noel, the entire series would have been different. It's really easy to forget how well Noel was doing as a rim protector and a defender against big, athletic centers until he got hurt.

I also blame Thibs a bit for not giving Toppin some more of Randall's minutes late in the season. Randall was plumb worn out.

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Without Robinson but with a healthy Noel, the entire series would have been different. It's really easy to forget how well Noel was doing as a rim protector and a defender against big, athletic centers until he got hurt. I also blame Thibs a bit for not giving Toppin some more of Randall's minutes late in the season. Randall was plumb worn out.

No way Toppin was ready early in the season to take on minutes, he was an absolute liability out there for the first 40 games. If he wasn't a top 10 pick I doubt he would have gotten minutes at all for most of the season.
Also ATL had a ton of injuries all season and was finally healthy in the playoffs.
In the end the Knicks were the 5th best team in the east.

signs 4 year deal to be permanent head coach for the Hawks

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signs 4 year deal to be permanent head coach for the Hawks

Well deserved. He did a great job with the Hawks.

Larryflowers 37, I said he should have been used more late in the season, you said Toppin wasn't ready early in the season. So what are we arguing about?

Would be a nice add to the repertoire.

And, of course, I agree with the comments on the tweet.


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Larryflowers 37, I said he should have been used more late in the season, you said Toppin wasn't ready early in the season. So what are we arguing about?

Sorry mis read but I still don't feel he could have eaten to Randle's minutes late with the playoff push.

that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need

names from a hat would have a better result than this

Tommy Beer
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Knicks starting point guard on opening night since 2009:

2009: Chris Duhon
2010: Ray Felton
2011: Toney Douglas
2012: Ray Felton
2013: Pablo Prigioni
2014: Shane Larkin
2015: Jose Calderon
2016: D Rose
2017: Ramon Sessions
2018: Trey Burke
2019: Allonzo Trier
2020: Elfrid Payton

there is an insurance issue I'm genuinely surprised nobody has given Isaiah Austin a look. He's played well at different stops overseas, he's still only 27. Other leagues have cleared him to play, I guess the NBA doesn't want blood on their hands?

guard from WVU is staying in the draft

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I'd do it for the right price. He can be a really solid 3 and D guy.

Absolutely not.

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that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need

some writer did a book about the Kyrie/KD Nets. The link below is an interview the writer did with Lebatard. The guy comes across as kind of weird and very self important. Regardless, he says some interesting stuff but most of it's ho-hum.

With regard to the cap, he basically said the Nets pay for all kinds of personal stuff for Kyrie/KD. The writer didn't even seem that interested in discussing it. Maybe it's because he doesn't have an NBA background and doesn't really get the significance of the cap? If it were true, the NBA would probably fine the Nets or dock them a second round pick unless maybe some powerful owners complained.
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guard from WVU is staying in the draft

One of several guys who would be a welcome addition to our backcourt.

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In comment 15300130 nygiants16 said: Quote: guard from WVU is staying in the draft One of several guys who would be a welcome addition to our backcourt.

I think he is a Thibs guard

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In comment 15300225 bceagle05 said: Quote: In comment 15300130 nygiants16 said: Quote: guard from WVU is staying in the draft One of several guys who would be a welcome addition to our backcourt. I think he is a Thibs guard

like Payton? lol...

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that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need

Interesting.

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names from a hat would have a better result than this Tommy Beer @TommyBeer · 6h Knicks starting point guard on opening night since 2009: 2009: Chris Duhon 2010: Ray Felton 2011: Toney Douglas 2012: Ray Felton 2013: Pablo Prigioni 2014: Shane Larkin 2015: Jose Calderon 2016: D Rose 2017: Ramon Sessions 2018: Trey Burke 2019: Allonzo Trier 2020: Elfrid Payton

so depressing. During that time, the only above average stretches of PG play they've had in no particular order:
-Linsanity (duh)
-Pablo/Felton/Kidd trio at the beginning of 2012/2013 season
-Derrick Rose we just saw in 2021
-2 good weeks from Chancey Billups in 2011 before he got hurt

That might be it.

Honorable mention to the random ridiculous performances Nate Robinson would have once in a while.

Chris Duhon...Good God. I haven't thought of him in ages.

In comment 15300246 Enzo said:

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In comment 15300226 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15300225 bceagle05 said: Quote: In comment 15300130 nygiants16 said: Quote: guard from WVU is staying in the draft One of several guys who would be a welcome addition to our backcourt. I think he is a Thibs guard like Payton? lol...

hahaha no thank god..

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Chris Duhon...Good God. I haven't thought of him in ages.

Donnie gave him the full MLE over two years which was an overpay. The guy was basically average at everything. He had some fun moments running Dantonis offense but then again so did most guards.

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In comment 15300105 nygiants16 said: Quote: that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need some writer did a book about the Kyrie/KD Nets. The link below is an interview the writer did with Lebatard. The guy comes across as kind of weird and very self important. Regardless, he says some interesting stuff but most of it's ho-hum. With regard to the cap, he basically said the Nets pay for all kinds of personal stuff for Kyrie/KD. The writer didn't even seem that interested in discussing it. Maybe it's because he doesn't have an NBA background and doesn't really get the significance of the cap? If it were true, the NBA would probably fine the Nets or dock them a second round pick unless maybe some powerful owners complained. Link - ( New Window )

He also accuses the Knicks of tampering with KD while under contract
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Eh, there's so much tampering that I just shrug. All these guys are having convos with each other with a wink & a nod from management.

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In comment 15300223 Enzo said: Quote: In comment 15300105 nygiants16 said: Quote: that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need some writer did a book about the Kyrie/KD Nets. The link below is an interview the writer did with Lebatard. The guy comes across as kind of weird and very self important. Regardless, he says some interesting stuff but most of it's ho-hum. With regard to the cap, he basically said the Nets pay for all kinds of personal stuff for Kyrie/KD. The writer didn't even seem that interested in discussing it. Maybe it's because he doesn't have an NBA background and doesn't really get the significance of the cap? If it were true, the NBA would probably fine the Nets or dock them a second round pick unless maybe some powerful owners complained. Link - ( New Window ) He also accuses the Knicks of tampering with KD while under contract Link - ( New Window )

again, to me this is where the guy shows he wasn't really an NBA guy before writing the book. The Knicks were tampering with a guy who'd already been tampered with. The Nets knew they were getting KD in early June when they made the Crabbe trade.

Is he truly more likely to get hurt and miss a lot of time these next 2-3 years as he was the prior 2-3? Maybe maybe not. He’s in great shape.

What you have to ask is what the Knicks do after signing Paul? If they traded for a star while keeping Randle and RJB, and actually headed into 2022 with room for one more max? Which might actually be possible with the Randle being signed last, maybe, that’s a team with some serious star power and one that would be vastly improved for next season with room for more in 22, maybe...

Some guys can play into their late 30s... why not Paul. And maybe the suns owner gets cold feet yet again. I might have to do that move.

You’d have Paul, RJB, Randle and the (hopefully) traded for veteran from this offseason. Along with some of the holdover vets like Rose? And room for one more in 22? ( not 100% sure but I’d bet it’s doable)

Yeah I might have to do that. It’s risky but there’s a payoff.

how people have basically forgotten that Chris Paul is a total dirtbag as a player.

Sure, great player. But total jerkoff and it's nauseating hearing the media trip over themselves to blow him first.

to go to the Knicks? The combo of him Booker and Ayton isn’t going to be matched unless he brings someone with him. And why go through all that when you already have it?

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to go to the Knicks? The combo of him Booker and Ayton isn’t going to be matched unless he brings someone with him. And why go through all that when you already have it?

If they win i wouodnt be shocked if he left..

If theyblose i would be shocked if he left

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to go to the Knicks? The combo of him Booker and Ayton isn’t going to be matched unless he brings someone with him. And why go through all that when you already have it?

he may not want NY but given the circumstances, it would not be surprising if he left to get more guaranteed money.

public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO.

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public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO.

with almost any other owner I'd say you're right. But Sarver has a reputation for a reason. And Paul is head of the union.

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public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO.

is it that crazy for a player to leave a good to great team for another?

Paul at age 36 is also thinking about post playing career at that point, same reason Lebron went to Lakers..

I am not saying Paul is coming to NY, but i dont think it is that crazy he leaves Phoenix..

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In comment 15300531 Heisenberg said: Quote: public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO. with almost any other owner I'd say you're right. But Sarver has a reputation for a reason. And Paul is head of the union.

This is a fair point. The owner is a bit different in that regard.

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In comment 15300531 Heisenberg said: Quote: public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO. is it that crazy for a player to leave a good to great team for another? Paul at age 36 is also thinking about post playing career at that point, same reason Lebron went to Lakers.. I am not saying Paul is coming to NY, but i dont think it is that crazy he leaves Phoenix..

It's not crazy. Just really unlikely, IMO. I'd personally love it because he's one of my favorite players in the league. Always has been. I'd take old-ass Chris Paul who would be the best PG since we had old-ass Jason Kidd.

Payne has played really well and is an UFA after the season. Turns 27 in August and given his per 36 #'s could thrive in a starting role. It's not a sexy move but could be a smart way to use some cap space with good upside.