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larryflower37 : 6/23/2021 1:11 pm
Detroit won the Cade sweepstakes.
Toronto hitting the 4th spot they get to draft their replacement for Lowery.
It will be interesting to see if the Knicks can package picks and move up and if they even want to?
Hopefully a PG slips down in range of the Knicks.

Will GS trade 7 and 14 for a Vet to help them win now or build for post Curry?

Less than a month to the draft and rumors are flying around.
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Listening to Scott Drew  
Leg of Theismann : 6/24/2021 3:40 pm : link
Davion Mitchell really sounds like he would fit in with the culture here with his tireless work ethic. One of those guys who woke up at 4 am to start practicing /working out-- and was back in the gym the day after they won the championship.

But also Jared Butler at #19 or #21 also wouldn't be a bad consolation prize.
Not a big fan of Bouknight shooting 29% from 3 last year  
Leg of Theismann : 6/24/2021 3:44 pm : link
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As a UConn fan, I've seen a lot of Bouknight.  
Heisenberg : 6/24/2021 3:55 pm : link
he's got a lot of talent. And I think LaVine is a good ceiling for him. But, I think he'll have a few years before he's a good NBA player. And I think there's a chance that his endpoint isn't LaVine at all, but more like Austin Rivers.

That said, I'd be happy if the Knicks got him, even if I'd also be a little worried too.
Davion Mitchell is a thibs dream, i think  
Heisenberg : 6/24/2021 4:06 pm : link
wont last to the Knicks picks so they'd need to move up
Random check on RJ's stats  
Eli Wilson : 6/24/2021 4:16 pm : link
I think some of us forget how young he is - literally just turned 21.

This is RJ's year 2 stats vs some other big time scorers year 2 stats - who also entered the NBA young at a young age:

RJ Barrett - 17.6/5.8/3.0 .441/.401/.746
Kobe Bryant - 15.4/3.1/2.5 .428/.341/.794
Bradley Beal - 17.1/3.7/3.3 .419/.402/.788
Jayson Tatum - 15.7/6.0/2.1 .450/.373/.855
Nyg22  
GMEN46 : 6/24/2021 4:27 pm : link
I will need to check some more stuff in Zaire Williams, bold statement
Mavs close to hiring a new gm  
nygiants16 : 6/24/2021 6:57 pm : link
and Jason Kidd is the frontrunner for head coach according to woj
Kidd  
Jon in NYC : 6/24/2021 7:12 pm : link
has a high "Doncic asks out" factor involved, so I'm thrilled with this development.
RE: Kidd  
nygiants16 : 6/24/2021 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15293654 Jon in NYC said:
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has a high "Doncic asks out" factor involved, so I'm thrilled with this development.


you have to think Doncic was consulted right? And i have not read a single name the mavs interviewed for gm..

This feels like Dirk has more of a say than the mavs are letting on..
RE: Davion Mitchell is a thibs dream, i think  
Leg of Theismann : 6/24/2021 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15293550 Heisenberg said:
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wont last to the Knicks picks so they'd need to move up


Would definitely need to move up. He's gonna go in the #8-10 range. I don't know though some people have said packaging all our picks up could move us as high as #8.
The Suns to me are clearly the best remaining team  
Leg of Theismann : 6/24/2021 9:33 pm : link
I just think they really every everything you'd want in a contender: one of the best floor generals in the history of basketball as their leader, a superstar 3-Level scorer in Booker who can always create his own shot even in the most dire of circumstances, a true emerging star big man in Ayton to work the pick and roll w/ Paul/Booker, and on top of all that they have terrific depth. I love what Jae Crowder brings too, I think you can always use a guy like him in a championship run.

I liked the Clippers to win it all before Kawhi got hurt just because they were flat out the most talented team overall (and honestly they're still pretty damn talented even w/o Kawhi), but the Suns just have such a nice collection of pieces and to me are just more of a classic perfect basketball TEAM.
Cavs explorint trade options for Sexton  
nygiants16 : 6/24/2021 9:36 pm : link
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Mavs hiring nico harrison  
nygiants16 : 6/24/2021 9:37 pm : link
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I'd  
Jon in NYC : 6/24/2021 9:42 pm : link
absolutely trade for Sexton. He's not a true PG, but he's a great scorer and fierce competitor. I think he can be the 2nd scoring option on a really competitive team pretty soon.
Rondo has looked absolutely awful in these playoffs  
Leg of Theismann : 6/24/2021 9:57 pm : link
Huge drop-off from last postseason. He was really a huge reason why the Lakers won last postseason. Now somehow he just seems to be a perpetual turnover machine. I feel like Atlanta knew something the Clips didn't when they traded him for Lou Will. At the time I thought it was a good trade for both teams but Rondo has just not looked at all like himself.
Too lazy to sit through the two combine scrimmages, but  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/24/2021 9:57 pm : link
apparently Hyland and Christopher had good games.
All in in sexton  
GMEN46 : 6/24/2021 11:28 pm : link
He was pick in knox year, obviously went before knicks pick. He is a big time competitor, I think he is one of this guys if put on a winning team with a good coach he could thrive. The ball hog stuff happens all the time with a young player in a bad team. That can be fixed, think Trae young.

I would offer all 3 picks this year and knox for Sexton. I think it’s a fair offer especially if cavs take Suggs they will look to unload. Sexton also can play defense when motivated.
Sexton is actually the perfect fit  
nygiants16 : 6/25/2021 9:24 am : link
for what Thibs likes at point, attack the rim, run the pick and roll and keep pressure on the defense..

I would take Sexton over Ball
As said before  
Carl in CT : 6/25/2021 9:51 am : link
Leon is very close to him. CAA also. He does like NY also….
RE: Sexton is actually the perfect fit  
Stu11 : 6/25/2021 11:00 am : link
In comment 15293916 nygiants16 said:
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for what Thibs likes at point, attack the rim, run the pick and roll and keep pressure on the defense..

I would take Sexton over Ball

Sexton has definitely prove more at the NBA level. Ball has definitely improved certain skill sets the past few seasons, but Sexton is more polished at this point.
RE: Rondo has looked absolutely awful in these playoffs  
Stu11 : 6/25/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15293751 Leg of Theismann said:
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Huge drop-off from last postseason. He was really a huge reason why the Lakers won last postseason. Now somehow he just seems to be a perpetual turnover machine. I feel like Atlanta knew something the Clips didn't when they traded him for Lou Will. At the time I thought it was a good trade for both teams but Rondo has just not looked at all like himself.

That trade has done a 180. Lou wanted no part of going to Atlanta but he has turned into a bigger difference maker than Rondo and oddly enough he has a better shot at the finals and even possibly winning a ring than if he had stayed in LA.
illard getting antsy according to jonathon Quick  
nygiants16 : 6/25/2021 11:07 am : link
Wants to win now and win big..
I like this kid from Alabama, Josh Primo  
Anakim : 6/25/2021 11:13 am : link
He won't turn 19 until December, but man oh man, is he athletic, long and bouncy. Wouldn't mind taking a shot at him in the second round and having him develop in Westchester.
RE: I like this kid from Alabama, Josh Primo  
nygiants16 : 6/25/2021 11:15 am : link
In comment 15293983 Anakim said:
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He won't turn 19 until December, but man oh man, is he athletic, long and bouncy. Wouldn't mind taking a shot at him in the second round and having him develop in Westchester.


It seems a lot of the top players in this class are extremely athletic but have to work on their shooting..
It'd  
Jon in NYC : 6/25/2021 11:16 am : link
be so exciting to get Dame. I'm trying to convince myself it wont happen, but there definitely seems to be a possibility.
RE: It'd  
nygiants16 : 6/25/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15293986 Jon in NYC said:
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be so exciting to get Dame. I'm trying to convince myself it wont happen, but there definitely seems to be a possibility.


I think there is a slight chance for the first time...i think if a team blew them away they would do it..
RE: It'd  
Enzo : 6/25/2021 12:00 pm : link
In comment 15293986 Jon in NYC said:
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be so exciting to get Dame. I'm trying to convince myself it wont happen, but there definitely seems to be a possibility.

if Portland was really looking to tear it down, I think we might be one of the few teams able to take back both Dame and CJ without sending much money back.
Cost for lillard and mccollum  
GMEN46 : 6/25/2021 12:50 pm : link
Could the Knicks get lillard and McCollum for the following:

Toppin
Barret
knox
2021 1st rounder 19
2021 1st rounder 21
2021 2nd rounder 32
2023 1st rounder
2023 1st rounder Dallas
2025 1st rounder

Would we want that as Knicks fans?
Can fit under the cap?

PG Lillard
SG McCollum
SF TBD
PF Randle
C Mitch

Quickley off bench and all vet mins

It doesn’t excite me all that much, I know it should but there would be no depth with 2 aging stars and randle

Pick swaps in 2022, 2024 and 2026

Portland  
Carl in CT : 6/25/2021 1:20 pm : link
Has a better team than that now and can’t win it all. We would have nothing going forward. I would love those players but I don’t see it.
RE: Portland  
Jon in NYC : 6/25/2021 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15294087 Carl in CT said:
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Has a better team than that now and can’t win it all. We would have nothing going forward. I would love those players but I don’t see it.


Do they? RoCo is wildly overrated. Nurkic is always hurt. Randle was 2nd team all NBA this year. He's I think back to being slightly devalued cause of his stinker of a playoff series. Plus a huge upgrade in coach with Thibs.

Bring back Rose and Bullock and that's a damn good team.
I think at this point  
GMEN46 : 6/25/2021 1:31 pm : link
You try to keep all these young guys for one more year and see how they develop. I would see if Lowry would take 1 year $30million with a team option for $30 million with $5 million buyout. Resign bullock on 1 year deal and trade up to get BPA in draft. Try to extend Randle this year.

Adding Lowry plus the improvements in the young guys and a too pick should keep Knicks in top 6 in east with major cap room in 2022 and lots of good young assets and picks.

Then go for lavine or beal as free agents or if their teams try to trade them at the deadline.
Forgot  
GMEN46 : 6/25/2021 1:31 pm : link
To mention resign rose as well.
Nico harrison will run the mavs  
nygiants16 : 6/25/2021 1:39 pm : link
Jason kidd has agreed to be head coach..

Seems like Mavs had the easy choice of hiring Mosely but decided to go the "sexy" route
What is Kemba Walker's trade value now?  
larryflower37 : 6/25/2021 1:40 pm : link
Supposedly OKC is looking to move him.
I know most are not fans of his and he has 2 years 74 million left on his deal.
Knicks obviously have the cap space.
Could he be had for a 1st and say Knox?
Shouldn't  
Semipro Lineman : 6/25/2021 1:52 pm : link
the Knicks be the team receiving the first for taking on his salary?
Mitch  
DanMetroMan : 6/25/2021 2:09 pm : link
Is up to 275? Wtf lol
RE: Mitch  
larryflower37 : 6/25/2021 2:31 pm : link
In comment 15294126 DanMetroMan said:
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Is up to 275? Wtf lol


Crazy right?
Doesn't look that much bigger.
Stay  
Jon in NYC : 6/25/2021 2:33 pm : link
far far away from Kemba. 0 interest. He's just not that good.
Sexton definitely opened my eyes  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2021 2:42 pm : link
when he carried Cleveland to an OT win over Brooklyn earlier this season with the Big Three on the court. Scored 40+ points including every bucket down the stretch. Letting Johnny Bryant coach up RJ, IQ and Sexton wouldn't be the worst thing.
Chauncey the favorite in Portland, says Woj.  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2021 8:24 pm : link
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RE: Chauncey the favorite in Portland, says Woj.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/25/2021 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15294342 bceagle05 said:
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I believe that's who Dame wanted.
RE: Chauncey the favorite in Portland, says Woj.  
nygiants16 : 6/25/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15294342 bceagle05 said:
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shams said its all but done
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/25/2021 8:29 pm : link
Well there goes Dame being traded this summer. He sat in on the Billups interview & must have given his blessing.
RE: ...  
Jon in NYC : 6/25/2021 9:06 pm : link
In comment 15294349 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Well there goes Dame being traded this summer. He sat in on the Billups interview & must have given his blessing.


Yup. He'll probably give it at least another year.
This is a  
Jon in NYC : 6/25/2021 9:28 pm : link
"we underestimated you game one but this is who we really are" game from the Bucks. Just a total beatdown.
Makur Maker for the 58th overall pick  
Anakim : 6/25/2021 11:13 pm : link
Why not?
RE: This is a  
santacruzom : 6/25/2021 11:39 pm : link
In comment 15294402 Jon in NYC said:
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"we underestimated you game one but this is who we really are" game from the Bucks. Just a total beatdown.


Right? It reminds me of the Lakers losing game 1 to Philly.
RE: RE: Just stop talking lol  
santacruzom : 6/25/2021 11:59 pm : link
In comment 15292806 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15292696 nygiants16 said:


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BA Central
@TheNBACentral
Warriors owner Joe Lacob responds to rumors that LeBron James has been recruiting Stephen Curry to Lakers

“Look, Steph Curry, if he really wanted to leave at the end of his contract, he’s a free agent, he’s earned the right, he can do it."



Wow. Looks like Lacob REALLY wants Steph to stick around...there's a weird vibe there between Steph & Lacob from all accounts.


I doubt he's worried about it, and I definitely doubt he'd enjoy that outcome. He just tends to state the obvious like that.
According to Lowe/Botemps  
nygiants16 : 6/26/2021 3:35 am : link
OKC has quietly made SGA available in trade talks due to timing of their rebuild and they dont thinknhebfits the timeline
RE: According to Lowe/Botemps  
Ira : 6/26/2021 6:51 am : link
In comment 15294509 nygiants16 said:
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OKC has quietly made SGA available in trade talks due to timing of their rebuild and they dont thinknhebfits the timeline


If that's the case, the Knicks should target him. He's young, has a good all around game and he played for Kentucky. ;)
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