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larryflower37 : 6/23/2021 1:11 pm
Detroit won the Cade sweepstakes.
Toronto hitting the 4th spot they get to draft their replacement for Lowery.
It will be interesting to see if the Knicks can package picks and move up and if they even want to?
Hopefully a PG slips down in range of the Knicks.

Will GS trade 7 and 14 for a Vet to help them win now or build for post Curry?

Less than a month to the draft and rumors are flying around.
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nygiants16 : 6/28/2021 3:01 pm : link
In comment 15295521 Jon in NYC said:
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sources say Denver and Toronto would be the early favorites for Lillard with the Knicks "in the mix"



I get Denver, but what is Toronto giving up?


Probably flip Siakim for draft picks, then trade FVV and draft picks for lillard
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DanMetroMan : 6/28/2021 3:02 pm : link
In comment 15295521 Jon in NYC said:
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sources say Denver and Toronto would be the early favorites for Lillard with the Knicks "in the mix"



I get Denver, but what is Toronto giving up?


They have let teams know Siakam is available so presumably, he'd be part of the deal.
I think the rumor is Pascal Siakam to the Warriors for the 7th overall  
Anakim : 6/28/2021 3:36 pm : link
Pick and James Wiseman Jr.
I dont  
Jon in NYC : 6/28/2021 3:41 pm : link
know why the Blazers want Siakam. You can't win with Dame but you can with historically unclutch Pascal?
RE: I dont  
bceagle05 : 6/28/2021 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15295549 Jon in NYC said:
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know why the Blazers want Siakam. You can't win with Dame but you can with historically unclutch Pascal?

Yeah, we don't know what Portland wants but the OKC rebuild plan seems a lot smarter than some mediocre Simmons/McCollum or Siakam/McCollum 35-win squad.
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Jon in NYC : 6/28/2021 3:57 pm : link
In comment 15295555 bceagle05 said:
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know why the Blazers want Siakam. You can't win with Dame but you can with historically unclutch Pascal?


Yeah, we don't know what Portland wants but the OKC rebuild plan seems a lot smarter than some mediocre Simmons/McCollum or Siakam/McCollum 35-win squad.


This is why I think the Knicks actually have a great offer. Picks + Cap Space + Legitimate NBA caliber youth on rookie deals is a really tough trio to top.

You can get a great package from us + turn CJ into a similar package + get more picks for RoCc and Nurkic.
If  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2021 4:16 pm : link
I'm Denver I bite the bullet and give up MPJ

Jokic/Lillard/Murray is a ring challenging trip for the next half decade.
You need to find a way to keep RJ  
larryflower37 : 6/28/2021 4:17 pm : link
In the Dame deal.
Move Mitch, IQ, Obi, and all the picks needed.
Cap space, Dame, RJ, and Randle is something to build from and makes sense.
Kwahi is going to stay in LA he has rings, PG13 and they are on the cusp of a championship team. Also it's his team and NY it would be Dame's team first.
I think all of this is pipedreams BTW.
RE: If  
Jon in NYC : 6/28/2021 4:18 pm : link
In comment 15295574 DanMetroMan said:
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I'm Denver I bite the bullet and give up MPJ

Jokic/Lillard/Murray is a ring challenging trip for the next half decade.


Totally agree. MPJ has a lot to prove and he's an absolutely atrocious defender.
Jokic  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2021 4:35 pm : link
is such a great centerpiece offensively because he's such a good passer from the post. I really think Jokic/Lillard/Murray as your big 3 would challenge for a ring. Joke is somehow only 26.
Yeah Denver makes a ton of sense  
Stu11 : 6/28/2021 4:42 pm : link
But Toronto??? So let me get this straight Dame would leave Portland to go up to Toronto with no FVV, Lowry or Siakam? Yeah right.
It would  
Jon in NYC : 6/28/2021 4:57 pm : link
be super helpful if Lillard demanded a trade to the Knicks. He's got 4 years left so basically 0 leverage but Portland may want to do right by him.
Teams  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2021 4:59 pm : link
have been left with the impression the Sixers will hold onto Simmons unless they receive another young star as part of the deal.
RE: Teams  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2021 6:01 pm : link
In comment 15295647 DanMetroMan said:
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have been left with the impression the Sixers will hold onto Simmons unless they receive another young star as part of the deal.


Haha. You ain't getting a young star for Simmons this summer.
RE: If  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15295574 DanMetroMan said:
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I'm Denver I bite the bullet and give up MPJ

Jokic/Lillard/Murray is a ring challenging trip for the next half decade.


That's the Western favorites next fall if that's Denver's trio.
RE: If  
widmerseyebrow : 6/28/2021 7:45 pm : link
In comment 15295574 DanMetroMan said:
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I'm Denver I bite the bullet and give up MPJ

Jokic/Lillard/Murray is a ring challenging trip for the next half decade.


I suppose you get the best deal for your team, but does making another team in your conference a title favorite for that long factor into the decision at all?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2021 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15295762 widmerseyebrow said:
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I'm Denver I bite the bullet and give up MPJ

Jokic/Lillard/Murray is a ring challenging trip for the next half decade.



I suppose you get the best deal for your team, but does making another team in your conference a title favorite for that long factor into the decision at all?


If Blazers trade Dame, it's rebuild mode so I guess...Who cares? It's not like Portland would be contending while Dame is still Dame.
Clippers up 12 with five minutes to go in Phoenix.  
bceagle05 : 6/28/2021 11:21 pm : link
I thought they’d lose this one by 20. PG13 and Reggie Jackson have been great. Ty Lue can coach my team any time.
Clippers with an exceptional performance led by Paul George  
dpinzow : 6/28/2021 11:39 pm : link
to force a Game 6. Phoenix very fortunate that Kawhi's been injured, otherwise they'd at best be facing elimination, if not eliminated
CP3’s bout with COVID and Booker’s broken nose  
bceagle05 : 6/28/2021 11:42 pm : link
definitely knocked Phoenix out of rhythm a bit.
..  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2021 9:27 am : link
NBA Central
@TheNBACentral
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"I think Dwyane Wade is seriously concerned about Donovan Mitchell’s desire to stay [in Utah] long-term."

- Brian Windhorst
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Jon in NYC : 6/29/2021 9:29 am : link
In comment 15295968 nygiants16 said:
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NBA Central
@TheNBACentral
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"I think Dwyane Wade is seriously concerned about Donovan Mitchell’s desire to stay [in Utah] long-term."

- Brian Windhorst


Didn't he literally just sign a long term contract?
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nygiants16 : 6/29/2021 9:32 am : link
In comment 15295970 Jon in NYC said:
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NBA Central
@TheNBACentral
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"I think Dwyane Wade is seriously concerned about Donovan Mitchell’s desire to stay [in Utah] long-term."

- Brian Windhorst



Didn't he literally just sign a long term contract?


yup lol
RE: ..  
TyreeHelmet : 6/29/2021 9:36 am : link
In comment 15295968 nygiants16 said:
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NBA Central
@TheNBACentral
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"I think Dwyane Wade is seriously concerned about Donovan Mitchell’s desire to stay [in Utah] long-term."

- Brian Windhorst


I always thought he was the star that was rumored to want to come to the Knicks. Its probably wishful thinking but I could totally see him being traded there in the next year.

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larryflower37 : 6/29/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15295975 TyreeHelmet said:
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NBA Central
@TheNBACentral
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"I think Dwyane Wade is seriously concerned about Donovan Mitchell’s desire to stay [in Utah] long-term."

- Brian Windhorst



I always thought he was the star that was rumored to want to come to the Knicks. Its probably wishful thinking but I could totally see him being traded there in the next year.


Dame said if Portland didn't want him he would like to play for Utah or the Lakers
So maybe a 3 way deal with Utah? (partially kidding)
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nygiants16 : 6/29/2021 10:00 am : link
In comment 15295975 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 15295968 nygiants16 said:


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NBA Central
@TheNBACentral
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"I think Dwyane Wade is seriously concerned about Donovan Mitchell’s desire to stay [in Utah] long-term."

- Brian Windhorst



I always thought he was the star that was rumored to want to come to the Knicks. Its probably wishful thinking but I could totally see him being traded there in the next year.


I thought once wade signed pn as part owner there was no shot Mitchell would leave
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15295975 TyreeHelmet said:
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NBA Central
@TheNBACentral
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3m
"I think Dwyane Wade is seriously concerned about Donovan Mitchell’s desire to stay [in Utah] long-term."

- Brian Windhorst



I always thought he was the star that was rumored to want to come to the Knicks. Its probably wishful thinking but I could totally see him being traded there in the next year.


He's signed for 4 more seasons.
Surprised the Pelicans job isnt more coveted  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2021 4:22 pm : link
Vaughn seemed to be the favorite but according to Woj he has taken his name out of head coaching jobs
Some  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2021 4:25 pm : link
good draft stuff
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2021 6:16 pm : link
Are these Billups sexual assault allegations from 97 just coming to light? I never heard of the allegations until this past week.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2021 7:52 pm : link
Just saw a clip on Twitter of a reporter asking Billups about the '97 sexual assault allegation & Portland PR stepping in & not letting Billups answer. That's weak AF.
Yeah I had absolutely no clue about Chauncey’s issue.  
bceagle05 : 6/29/2021 9:03 pm : link
Never gets brought up the way others are. A nightmare for a team that’s in a tough enough spot as it is.
Anyone catch the Canada vs Greece game?  
Eli Wilson : 6/29/2021 9:14 pm : link
Just checking the box score, looks like RJ had a decent game - 22/5/3 8/14.
Bucks laying an egg so far in Game 4 with no Trae Young  
dpinzow : 6/29/2021 9:22 pm : link
for the Hawks
Took the Hawks +9.5  
Bricktop : 6/29/2021 9:23 pm : link
So far so good.
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Leg of Theismann : 6/29/2021 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15296362 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Are these Billups sexual assault allegations from 97 just coming to light? I never heard of the allegations until this past week.


Damn I thought I was the only one who'd never heard about it.

Something is very fishy about the way this always happens with guys like Kidd and Billups. Their name comes up for head coaching options, and the second they do you also see in the media "these allegations haunt their past" etc. Why does that always seem to happen? We never heard that with Kidd when he was simply being hired as an asst. coach, but as soon as HC opportunities start being discussed with his name the first thing always following it is "well what about x y z allegations?" Who decided JUST NOW to bring this shit up about Billups? Why now? As though he wasn't already an NBA player for 17 years AFTER this incident and an asst. coach for the Clippers last year? We're acting like NOW we have to put him on trial for this shit?
I'm up by 30 right now  
Bricktop : 6/29/2021 10:24 pm : link
If they blow this, I'm never betting again.
Scary knee injury for Giannis.  
bceagle05 : 6/29/2021 10:28 pm : link
These playoffs have been one injury after another.
A lot of people  
Bricktop : 6/29/2021 10:37 pm : link
are going to make a lot of money tonight. That 9.5 line is easy money. Holy shit.
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nygiants16 : 6/29/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15296486 Leg of Theismann said:
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Are these Billups sexual assault allegations from 97 just coming to light? I never heard of the allegations until this past week.



Damn I thought I was the only one who'd never heard about it.

Something is very fishy about the way this always happens with guys like Kidd and Billups. Their name comes up for head coaching options, and the second they do you also see in the media "these allegations haunt their past" etc. Why does that always seem to happen? We never heard that with Kidd when he was simply being hired as an asst. coach, but as soon as HC opportunities start being discussed with his name the first thing always following it is "well what about x y z allegations?" Who decided JUST NOW to bring this shit up about Billups? Why now? As though he wasn't already an NBA player for 17 years AFTER this incident and an asst. coach for the Clippers last year? We're acting like NOW we have to put him on trial for this shit?


Because when you become a head coach you become face of a franchise, you are a ceo...

an assistant hides in the back ground
Looks like Chuck  
Bricktop : 6/29/2021 11:04 pm : link
Lost a ton tonight.

That Giannis injury looks horrible.

What a complete shift in this series. Holy mackerel.
Bucks are not a championship team.  
larryflower37 : 6/29/2021 11:39 pm : link
You can't lose game 4 on your home court and no Trae young.
Giannis can not be the #1 player on a championship team.

RE: Bucks are not a championship team.  
Bricktop : 6/29/2021 11:47 pm : link
In comment 15296536 larryflower37 said:
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You can't lose game 4 on your home court and no Trae young.
Giannis can not be the #1 player on a championship team.


Game was in Atlanta. But I definitely hear you.
I’m just gonna be honest  
Leg of Theismann : 6/30/2021 1:30 am : link
I found myself really rooting for the Clippers the other night. I mean 1) because they have to be the most tortured fanbase in sports, 2) I love the energy and belief they play with, especially Jackson and Mann— love their confidence and game. And also 3) Paul George seems like a good guy and I’d love to see him conquer those demons and completely flip (or re-flip I guess?) the script on the whole “playoff P” thing. Imagine after all that shit he somehow leads that team to a title without Kawhi? Clutch or no clutch I don’t think anyone EVER would’ve guessed he had the talent do that as the lead (and lone) all star on a team. He already finished off Utah (best record in the NBA) without Kawhi— imagine coming back from down 3-1 to the Suns. Idk I just think of all the possible stories that would be my favorite.

CP3 I like as a player, even if I sometimes don’t like his personality, but if not the Clippers I wouldn’t mind seeing him win a chip— he’s the true leader of that team , it’s not like he’s just some old dude chasing a ring as the #4 option or something. Amazing how long he’s been able to do what he does, and at just 6 feet tall .
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Leg of Theismann : 6/30/2021 1:39 am : link
In comment 15296505 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15296362 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Are these Billups sexual assault allegations from 97 just coming to light? I never heard of the allegations until this past week.



Damn I thought I was the only one who'd never heard about it.

Something is very fishy about the way this always happens with guys like Kidd and Billups. Their name comes up for head coaching options, and the second they do you also see in the media "these allegations haunt their past" etc. Why does that always seem to happen? We never heard that with Kidd when he was simply being hired as an asst. coach, but as soon as HC opportunities start being discussed with his name the first thing always following it is "well what about x y z allegations?" Who decided JUST NOW to bring this shit up about Billups? Why now? As though he wasn't already an NBA player for 17 years AFTER this incident and an asst. coach for the Clippers last year? We're acting like NOW we have to put him on trial for this shit?



Because when you become a head coach you become face of a franchise, you are a ceo...

an assistant hides in the back ground


I still don’t understand why NOW is the time for it to come up about Billups. I mean it was a quarter century ago and there were no criminal charges whatsoever at any point. And I’m not arguing whether or not I know he’s innocent— it’s just that he was one of the faces of the Pistons franchise for years as a player (AFTER this happened), I’ve seen him on TV on multiple sports talk shows as an analyst. It’s just weird to me that this for some reason just immediately becomes the first topic of discussion as soon as he’s mentioned as a possible HC, but not for any of the other shit he’s done in his life in the public eye? Like it really does just seem to go: “Billups: possible HC candidate. Okay first things first: what kind of offense he’ll probably run? No. something that happened in 1997 that involved no criminal charges and hasn’t been discussed in decades. That’s the logical place to start when evaluation a new NBA coach.”
Evaluating*  
Leg of Theismann : 6/30/2021 1:40 am : link
.
.  
Anakim : 6/30/2021 10:46 am : link
Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
The Lakers are finalizing a deal to hire former Knicks and Grizzlies coach David Fizdale as an assistant coach, sources tell ESPN.
lollllll  
Jon in NYC : 6/30/2021 10:47 am : link
the Lakers may not win a game.
He was fine as an assistant coach  
Heisenberg : 6/30/2021 10:54 am : link
when all he has to do is schmooze LeBron.
RE: lollllll  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2021 10:54 am : link
In comment 15296649 Jon in NYC said:
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the Lakers may not win a game.


I have never seen such a garbage coach defended so much by the media
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