NFT: Post lottery Knicks/NBA talk.

Move the needle enough with Randle if that was the direction the Knicks went this offseason?

Feb. 1 release date. I’m sure he’s already booked on First Take for an entire week of Knicks bashing.

for Canada against Greece.
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Knicks willing to part with Rj for Dame or Beal

In comment 15297071 nygiants16 said:

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Knicks willing to part with Rj for Dame or Beal

Oooooh, ehhhhh, yeah okay but only if we don't have to add too much more

In comment 15297071 nygiants16 said:

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Knicks willing to part with Rj for Dame or Beal

The Knicks were never going to commit to a long term rebuild with Thibs. That's especially true now that there's a 2nd team all NBA player in his prime on the roster.

RJ has to be the centerpiece in a trade for either.

really sounds like there's mutual interest with Oubre
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In comment 15297119 Jon in NYC said:

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really sounds like there's mutual interest with Oubre Link - ( New Window )

If you trade for a atar i think Pubre is a good fit, but i am not giving him 20 million a year

In comment 15296894 bceagle05 said:

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Feb. 1 release date. I’m sure he’s already booked on First Take for an entire week of Knicks bashing.

Can't wait...Haha.

In comment 15297071 nygiants16 said:

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Knicks willing to part with Rj for Dame or Beal

As they should.

31.6% from 3 and he takes five per game.

69% FT.

Only 1.3 assists.

Good luck with that.

As for RJ, I said at mid-season that Thibs wanted to trade him and nothing changed my opinion. There's a way you handle a player when you believe in him and a way when you don't.

Even when RJ improved his 3 pt percentage to be as good as Bullock and Burks, Thibs coached as though he thought they would make their next one, while RJ would not.

Tough to play for a coach that doesn't believe in you, so probably best for RJ that he go somewhere else.

Suns better win tonight or Good Lord...the pressure of Game 7 will be intense.

Assuming they close it out they’ll get a full week for Booker to heal up and CP3 to rest up. Hope they finish the job.

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and turns into a punk when CP3 shoves it up his ass.

He’s really cementing his legacy as one of the best PGs of all time.

would suck fucking moose cock

In comment 15297265 bceagle05 said:

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and turns into a punk when CP3 shoves it up his ass.

Beverely is one of the biggest jackasses in the game.

Please no Oubre. He’s the last guy the Knicks need. Hard no.

And willing to include Barrett to get Beal or Lillard is a no brainer. We are talking about the leagues leading scorer and a 1st team all nba player. Need to give up to get something.

In comment 15297354 TyreeHelmet said:

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Please no Oubre. He’s the last guy the Knicks need. Hard no. And willing to include Barrett to get Beal or Lillard is a no brainer. We are talking about the leagues leading scorer and a 1st team all nba player. Need to give up to get something.

this is my thinking on Barrett..

If you think he is going to be all nba type player you keep him and max him out..

If you think he is goingnto be a good player 1 all star appearance type player you trade while his value is high...Good players always end up overpaid

on trading lillard said the knicks have a huge advantage in being able to absorb the salary. I wonder if POR would really be willing to accept less to save money. The article references it more as a chance to start over then saving money, but still.

Knicks need to sell it as we can give you a ton of picks and you dont have to absorb salary. Plus a couple kids like Obi and one of Mitch/IQ. Its still a lot honestly, but you keep RJ one of Mitch/IQ and you go from there.

In comment 15297512 Italianju said:

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on trading lillard said the knicks have a huge advantage in being able to absorb the salary. I wonder if POR would really be willing to accept less to save money. The article references it more as a chance to start over then saving money, but still. Knicks need to sell it as we can give you a ton of picks and you dont have to absorb salary. Plus a couple kids like Obi and one of Mitch/IQ. Its still a lot honestly, but you keep RJ one of Mitch/IQ and you go from there.

I think if we kept RJ out of it we'd have to include at least 2 out of Mitch, Obi and IQ if not all 3.

In comment 15297512 Italianju said:

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on trading lillard said the knicks have a huge advantage in being able to absorb the salary. I wonder if POR would really be willing to accept less to save money. The article references it more as a chance to start over then saving money, but still. Knicks need to sell it as we can give you a ton of picks and you dont have to absorb salary. Plus a couple kids like Obi and one of Mitch/IQ. Its still a lot honestly, but you keep RJ one of Mitch/IQ and you go from there.

cap space is of course important but Portland has never really been much of a destination and the Blazers have never been a team that looks to bottom out. They may prefer getting back vets under contract so they can remain competitive. Normally trading a guy like Lillard would be an ownership level decision, but since Paul Allen died I have no clue who's really running the Blazers. His wife?

In comment 15297530 Enzo said:

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In comment 15297512 Italianju said: Quote: on trading lillard said the knicks have a huge advantage in being able to absorb the salary. I wonder if POR would really be willing to accept less to save money. The article references it more as a chance to start over then saving money, but still. Knicks need to sell it as we can give you a ton of picks and you dont have to absorb salary. Plus a couple kids like Obi and one of Mitch/IQ. Its still a lot honestly, but you keep RJ one of Mitch/IQ and you go from there. cap space is of course important but Portland has never really been much of a destination and the Blazers have never been a team that looks to bottom out. They may prefer getting back vets under contract so they can remain competitive. Normally trading a guy like Lillard would be an ownership level decision, but since Paul Allen died I have no clue who's really running the Blazers. His wife?

I'm not sure that they'll really have a choice if they trade Dame. There isn't going to be a package out there in my opinion that would allow them to remain competitive. At best it would be like the Spurs after the Kawhi deal, just barely good enough to compete for an 8th seed.

OKC was in a similar spot two years ago and now they're THE rebuilding team when it comes to cap space and picks. I could see Portland going in that direction. Knicks fandom aside, I do think that's the way to go with these superstar trades. Even Houston's future no longer looks so bleak post-Harden and it has been less than a year.

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
2021 Team USA Select Team:

Anthony Edwards
Saddiq Bey
Miles Bridges
Darius Garland
Tyrese Haliburton
Tyler Herro
John Jenkins
Keldon Johnson
Josh Magette
Dakota Mathias
Immanuel Quickly
Naz Reid
Cam Reynolds
Isaiah Stewart
Obi Toppin
PJ Washington
Patrick Williams

Alan Hahn
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Obi Toppin and Immanuel Quickley were named to the USA Basketball Select team, which will be coached by Erik Spoelstra and will train with the Olympic squad. Great experience for them. #Knicks

In comment 15297624 Heisenberg said:

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Shams Charania @ShamsCharania 2021 Team USA Select Team: Anthony Edwards Saddiq Bey Miles Bridges Darius Garland Tyrese Haliburton Tyler Herro John Jenkins Keldon Johnson Josh Magette Dakota Mathias Immanuel Quickly Naz Reid Cam Reynolds Isaiah Stewart Obi Toppin PJ Washington Patrick Williams

I want to be impressed but Josh Magette is 31 years old with 26 NBA games and hasn't played in the NBA sinc 2019-220? Mathias 8 NBA games played...John Jenkins was formerly (briefly) with the Knicks

Evan Dammarell
@AmNotEvan
The Miami Heat and New York Knicks are indeed monitoring the Collin Sexton situation in Cleveland, per sources.

In comment 15297373 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15297354 TyreeHelmet said: Quote: Please no Oubre. He’s the last guy the Knicks need. Hard no. And willing to include Barrett to get Beal or Lillard is a no brainer. We are talking about the leagues leading scorer and a 1st team all nba player. Need to give up to get something. this is my thinking on Barrett.. If you think he is going to be all nba type player you keep him and max him out.. If you think he is goingnto be a good player 1 all star appearance type player you trade while his value is high...Good players always end up overpaid

You do everything you can to keep Barrett out of the deal. I think he is absolutely off the table for Beal.
Dame is a tougher sell but you do it.
Barrett averaged 17.6 points on 44.1% shooting, 40.1 % from 3, 5.8 rebounds and 3.0 assists at 20 years old also he has proven to work hard and get better.
IMO if you add a Dame it will take pressure off of RJ to help him develop and when Dame is 35 in 4 years Barrett will be 25.

Also NYG16 is a Barrett hater and would automatically include him in any deal out there

question about Barrett is: Can he go from 17 PPG to 25? I'm skeptical, mostly because his handle flat out stinks. If his ceiling is 3rd or 4th option then you move him tomorrow, which I think it might be.

In comment 15297824 larryflower37 said:

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In comment 15297373 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15297354 TyreeHelmet said: Quote: Please no Oubre. He’s the last guy the Knicks need. Hard no. And willing to include Barrett to get Beal or Lillard is a no brainer. We are talking about the leagues leading scorer and a 1st team all nba player. Need to give up to get something. this is my thinking on Barrett.. If you think he is going to be all nba type player you keep him and max him out.. If you think he is goingnto be a good player 1 all star appearance type player you trade while his value is high...Good players always end up overpaid You do everything you can to keep Barrett out of the deal. I think he is absolutely off the table for Beal. Dame is a tougher sell but you do it. Barrett averaged 17.6 points on 44.1% shooting, 40.1 % from 3, 5.8 rebounds and 3.0 assists at 20 years old also he has proven to work hard and get better. IMO if you add a Dame it will take pressure off of RJ to help him develop and when Dame is 35 in 4 years Barrett will be 25. Also NYG16 is a Barrett hater and would automatically include him in any deal out there

that is false as i ahve said many times inwould only trade rj for a star and have said many times i would love to keep rj..

and no i dont see Rj ever becoming a star player...sorry i dont

In comment 15297840 Jon in NYC said:

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question about Barrett is: Can he go from 17 PPG to 25? I'm skeptical, mostly because his handle flat out stinks. If his ceiling is 3rd or 4th option then you move him tomorrow, which I think it might be.

exactly

Beal likely costs you RJ too, so I could see us passing on that.

In comment 15297855 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15297840 Jon in NYC said: Quote: question about Barrett is: Can he go from 17 PPG to 25? I'm skeptical, mostly because his handle flat out stinks. If his ceiling is 3rd or 4th option then you move him tomorrow, which I think it might be. exactly

I am not at all skeptical on this.
He is strong to the rim and will get stronger as he grows up.
I would think the longer he works his 3 pt shooting will continue to improve and not just be a catch and shoot player.
He needs to continue to work on his mid-range and pull up.
He is a strong defender and takes pride in his defense.
He just turned 21 in June and he already knows what it takes to be a pro.
He is a worker, I think it's a mistake to move him.
Nothing is guaranteed but I would not bet against him 25+ scorer.

If gun to head, I don't think RJ becomes 25 PPG scorer. But then again, I was out on Randle before the season so WTF do I know? Haha.

I still think the odds are long Dame ends up in NY.

Harris kicked out of the league for drugs.

In comment 15297893 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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If gun to head, I don't think RJ becomes 25 PPG scorer. But then again, I was out on Randle before the season so WTF do I know? Haha. I still think the odds are long Dame ends up in NY.

We were all out on Randle before the season.
RJ is showing flashes of the potential at a young age.
I do think Rose really helped RJ play to his potential.

I hope you're right re. RJ. I definitely think it's possible, but I'd probably bet against him ever being that type of scorer. He works his ass off though so it won't be for a lack of trying if it doesn't happen.

I'm in text thread with bunch of cousins-some Knicks fans, some Cs fans-& I floated the idea of Zion turning down the supermax & just saying, 'F it. I'm going to FA.' Would I be surprised? Somewhat, but not totally. That franchise doesn't seem long for that market; the Pels are probably the 10th most popular team in Louisiana right behind LSU women's field hockey. nygiants16 the other day said he was surprised that wasn't more of a desirable job...I think it's not because-IMO-there's a decent chance Zion isn't in NOLA in a few years & the franchise just craters. And the way Zion talked about playing in MSG...I don't think that was just hyperbole.

In comment 15297909 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I hope you're right re. RJ. I definitely think it's possible, but I'd probably bet against him ever being that type of scorer. He works his ass off though so it won't be for a lack of trying if it doesn't happen. I'm in text thread with bunch of cousins-some Knicks fans, some Cs fans-& I floated the idea of Zion turning down the supermax & just saying, 'F it. I'm going to FA.' Would I be surprised? Somewhat, but not totally. That franchise doesn't seem long for that market; the Pels are probably the 10th most popular team in Louisiana right behind LSU women's field hockey. nygiants16 the other day said he was surprised that wasn't more of a desirable job...I think it's not because-IMO-there's a decent chance Zion isn't in NOLA in a few years & the franchise just craters. And the way Zion talked about playing in MSG...I don't think that was just hyperbole.

something is going on because they cant find a coach, you would think a youbg coach would be excited to take that job, instead Vaughn who seemed to be the favorite said no thank you..

In comment 15297756 Anakim said:

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Evan Dammarell @AmNotEvan The Miami Heat and New York Knicks are indeed monitoring the Collin Sexton situation in Cleveland, per sources.

Is it just me or are the Heat rumored to be involved with every player that has ever hit FA or been made available in a trade? I know it’s a bit of an exaggeration but it seems their name comes up every single time

a rumored destination for Kawhi, too. Must be nice to recruit guys with South Beach, year round summer weather and no state income tax.

In comment 15297934 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 15297756 Anakim said: Quote: Evan Dammarell @AmNotEvan The Miami Heat and New York Knicks are indeed monitoring the Collin Sexton situation in Cleveland, per sources. Is it just me or are the Heat rumored to be involved with every player that has ever hit FA or been made available in a trade? I know it’s a bit of an exaggeration but it seems their name comes up every single time

Knicks will be too..I Believe Heat have a max slot just like the Knicks

breaking out in Milwaukee. Who needs Giannis when Crazy Eyes is in the gym?

In comment 15297957 bceagle05 said:

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breaking out in Milwaukee. Who needs Giannis when Crazy Eyes is in the gym?

Lol haven't heard those since I was chanting it at MSG last year when he dropped like 30 on the Bulls haha

What a piece of shit dirty flopper Reggie Miller was kicking his legs out to draw fouls on jumpers.

Knicks have a lot of love for Sexton.

Getting shit done in the biggest game of his career.
Love it

ATL minus Young vs. Bucks without Giannis.
Can we reset now.
What are the 76ers and Nets doing right now?
Can they meet at Rucker park?

In comment 15298005 Carl in CT said:

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Knicks have a lot of love for Sexton.

I'm definitely in on Sexton for the right price. Think he's a better option than any of the FA PGs. Randle could still be the main facilitator.

In comment 15298005 Carl in CT said:

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Knicks have a lot of love for Sexton.

Is this something your hearing or basing it off of Leon being his former agent?