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larryflower37 : 6/23/2021 1:11 pm
Detroit won the Cade sweepstakes.
Toronto hitting the 4th spot they get to draft their replacement for Lowery.
It will be interesting to see if the Knicks can package picks and move up and if they even want to?
Hopefully a PG slips down in range of the Knicks.

Will GS trade 7 and 14 for a Vet to help them win now or build for post Curry?

Less than a month to the draft and rumors are flying around.
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Unless  
DanMetroMan : 7/6/2021 3:28 pm : link
there is an insurance issue I'm genuinely surprised nobody has given Isaiah Austin a look. He's played well at different stops overseas, he's still only 27. Other leagues have cleared him to play, I guess the NBA doesn't want blood on their hands?
Sounds likr Miles Mcbride has a promise somewhere  
nygiants16 : 7/6/2021 4:02 pm : link
guard from WVU is staying in the draft
RE: What are people's thoughts on re-signing Frank?  
Greg from LI : 7/6/2021 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15298651 adamg said:
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I'd do it for the right price. He can be a really solid 3 and D guy.


Absolutely not.
RE: Some rumors  
Enzo : 7/6/2021 5:52 pm : link
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that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need

some writer did a book about the Kyrie/KD Nets. The link below is an interview the writer did with Lebatard. The guy comes across as kind of weird and very self important. Regardless, he says some interesting stuff but most of it's ho-hum.

With regard to the cap, he basically said the Nets pay for all kinds of personal stuff for Kyrie/KD. The writer didn't even seem that interested in discussing it. Maybe it's because he doesn't have an NBA background and doesn't really get the significance of the cap? If it were true, the NBA would probably fine the Nets or dock them a second round pick unless maybe some powerful owners complained.
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RE: Sounds likr Miles Mcbride has a promise somewhere  
bceagle05 : 7/6/2021 5:53 pm : link
In comment 15300130 nygiants16 said:
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guard from WVU is staying in the draft

One of several guys who would be a welcome addition to our backcourt.
RE: RE: Sounds likr Miles Mcbride has a promise somewhere  
nygiants16 : 7/6/2021 5:54 pm : link
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guard from WVU is staying in the draft


One of several guys who would be a welcome addition to our backcourt.


I think he is a Thibs guard
RE: RE: RE: Sounds likr Miles Mcbride has a promise somewhere  
Enzo : 7/6/2021 6:38 pm : link
In comment 15300226 nygiants16 said:
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guard from WVU is staying in the draft


One of several guys who would be a welcome addition to our backcourt.



I think he is a Thibs guard

like Payton? lol...
RE: Some rumors  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/6/2021 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15300105 nygiants16 said:
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that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need


Interesting.
RE: Pulling  
Enzo : 7/6/2021 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15300106 DanMetroMan said:
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names from a hat would have a better result than this

Tommy Beer
@TommyBeer
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Knicks starting point guard on opening night since 2009:

2009: Chris Duhon
2010: Ray Felton
2011: Toney Douglas
2012: Ray Felton
2013: Pablo Prigioni
2014: Shane Larkin
2015: Jose Calderon
2016: D Rose
2017: Ramon Sessions
2018: Trey Burke
2019: Allonzo Trier
2020: Elfrid Payton

so depressing. During that time, the only above average stretches of PG play they've had in no particular order:
-Linsanity (duh)
-Pablo/Felton/Kidd trio at the beginning of 2012/2013 season
-Derrick Rose we just saw in 2021
-2 good weeks from Chancey Billups in 2011 before he got hurt

That might be it.

Honorable mention to the random ridiculous performances Nate Robinson would have once in a while.

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/6/2021 7:31 pm : link
Chris Duhon...Good God. I haven't thought of him in ages.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Sounds likr Miles Mcbride has a promise somewhere  
nygiants16 : 7/6/2021 7:33 pm : link
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guard from WVU is staying in the draft


One of several guys who would be a welcome addition to our backcourt.



I think he is a Thibs guard


like Payton? lol...


hahaha no thank god..
RE: ...  
Enzo : 7/6/2021 7:36 pm : link
In comment 15300287 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Chris Duhon...Good God. I haven't thought of him in ages.

Donnie gave him the full MLE over two years which was an overpay. The guy was basically average at everything. He had some fun moments running Dantonis offense but then again so did most guards.
RE: RE: Some rumors  
Strahan91 : 7/6/2021 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15300223 Enzo said:
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that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need


some writer did a book about the Kyrie/KD Nets. The link below is an interview the writer did with Lebatard. The guy comes across as kind of weird and very self important. Regardless, he says some interesting stuff but most of it's ho-hum.

With regard to the cap, he basically said the Nets pay for all kinds of personal stuff for Kyrie/KD. The writer didn't even seem that interested in discussing it. Maybe it's because he doesn't have an NBA background and doesn't really get the significance of the cap? If it were true, the NBA would probably fine the Nets or dock them a second round pick unless maybe some powerful owners complained. Link - ( New Window )

He also accuses the Knicks of tampering with KD while under contract
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/6/2021 7:44 pm : link
Eh, there's so much tampering that I just shrug. All these guys are having convos with each other with a wink & a nod from management.
RE: RE: RE: Some rumors  
Enzo : 7/6/2021 7:54 pm : link
In comment 15300297 Strahan91 said:
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that the nets are circumventing the cap to pay Durant and Kyrie...Basically when they signed, they signed them to their contracts but also told them they will pay for anytging they need


some writer did a book about the Kyrie/KD Nets. The link below is an interview the writer did with Lebatard. The guy comes across as kind of weird and very self important. Regardless, he says some interesting stuff but most of it's ho-hum.

With regard to the cap, he basically said the Nets pay for all kinds of personal stuff for Kyrie/KD. The writer didn't even seem that interested in discussing it. Maybe it's because he doesn't have an NBA background and doesn't really get the significance of the cap? If it were true, the NBA would probably fine the Nets or dock them a second round pick unless maybe some powerful owners complained. Link - ( New Window )


He also accuses the Knicks of tampering with KD while under contract Link - ( New Window )

again, to me this is where the guy shows he wasn't really an NBA guy before writing the book. The Knicks were tampering with a guy who'd already been tampered with. The Nets knew they were getting KD in early June when they made the Crabbe trade.
Regarding Chris Paul  
djm : 7/6/2021 9:39 pm : link
Is he truly more likely to get hurt and miss a lot of time these next 2-3 years as he was the prior 2-3? Maybe maybe not. He’s in great shape.

What you have to ask is what the Knicks do after signing Paul? If they traded for a star while keeping Randle and RJB, and actually headed into 2022 with room for one more max? Which might actually be possible with the Randle being signed last, maybe, that’s a team with some serious star power and one that would be vastly improved for next season with room for more in 22, maybe...

Some guys can play into their late 30s... why not Paul. And maybe the suns owner gets cold feet yet again. I might have to do that move.
Next year  
djm : 7/6/2021 9:44 pm : link
You’d have Paul, RJB, Randle and the (hopefully) traded for veteran from this offseason. Along with some of the holdover vets like Rose? And room for one more in 22? ( not 100% sure but I’d bet it’s doable)

Yeah I might have to do that. It’s risky but there’s a payoff.

It's amazing  
MookGiants : 7/6/2021 11:41 pm : link
how people have basically forgotten that Chris Paul is a total dirtbag as a player.

Sure, great player. But total jerkoff and it's nauseating hearing the media trip over themselves to blow him first.
Why would Paul leave Phoenix  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2021 6:53 am : link
to go to the Knicks? The combo of him Booker and Ayton isn’t going to be matched unless he brings someone with him. And why go through all that when you already have it?
RE: Why would Paul leave Phoenix  
nygiants16 : 7/7/2021 8:05 am : link
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to go to the Knicks? The combo of him Booker and Ayton isn’t going to be matched unless he brings someone with him. And why go through all that when you already have it?


If they win i wouodnt be shocked if he left..

If theyblose i would be shocked if he left
RE: Why would Paul leave Phoenix  
Enzo : 7/7/2021 8:33 am : link
In comment 15300436 UConn4523 said:
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to go to the Knicks? The combo of him Booker and Ayton isn’t going to be matched unless he brings someone with him. And why go through all that when you already have it?

he may not want NY but given the circumstances, it would not be surprising if he left to get more guaranteed money.
To me, all the rumors of Paul leaving are just  
Heisenberg : 7/7/2021 10:15 am : link
public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO.
RE: To me, all the rumors of Paul leaving are just  
Enzo : 7/7/2021 10:24 am : link
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public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO.

with almost any other owner I'd say you're right. But Sarver has a reputation for a reason. And Paul is head of the union.

RE: To me, all the rumors of Paul leaving are just  
nygiants16 : 7/7/2021 10:32 am : link
In comment 15300531 Heisenberg said:
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public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO.


is it that crazy for a player to leave a good to great team for another?

Paul at age 36 is also thinking about post playing career at that point, same reason Lebron went to Lakers..

I am not saying Paul is coming to NY, but i dont think it is that crazy he leaves Phoenix..
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Heisenberg : 7/7/2021 11:07 am : link
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public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO.


with almost any other owner I'd say you're right. But Sarver has a reputation for a reason. And Paul is head of the union.


This is a fair point. The owner is a bit different in that regard.
RE: RE: To me, all the rumors of Paul leaving are just  
Heisenberg : 7/7/2021 11:09 am : link
In comment 15300540 nygiants16 said:
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public negotiations for him to get the most he can on what will be his last contract. He's not leaving Monty and that core, IMO.



is it that crazy for a player to leave a good to great team for another?

Paul at age 36 is also thinking about post playing career at that point, same reason Lebron went to Lakers..

I am not saying Paul is coming to NY, but i dont think it is that crazy he leaves Phoenix..


It's not crazy. Just really unlikely, IMO. I'd personally love it because he's one of my favorite players in the league. Always has been. I'd take old-ass Chris Paul who would be the best PG since we had old-ass Jason Kidd.
Surprised there hasn't been talk of Phoenix's other point guard  
Strahan91 : 7/7/2021 7:34 pm : link
Payne has played really well and is an UFA after the season. Turns 27 in August and given his per 36 #'s could thrive in a starting role. It's not a sexy move but could be a smart way to use some cap space with good upside.
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