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NFT: NHL Expansion Draft Regular Draft and Off-season Discussion

pjcas18 : 7/12/2021 9:13 am
The expansion draft is 7/21.

Next Sunday (7/18) protected lists will be made public

NHL Draft is 7/23 - 7/24

Free Agency opens 7/28

a lot of movement will happen IMO b/c of a lot of factors including the flat cap - teams with cap space can make out like bandits just for taking a bad contract. Tarasenko, Eichel, and more could have new homes not even considering movement to help with the expansion draft or free agency.

This article linked below from THW is great, not sure there is a ton of accuracy to it, but it's still a fun read.


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pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 1:32 pm : link
John Gambadoro
@Gambo987
·
8m
Breaking Coyotes News - Coyotes on verge of acquiring Flyers defenseman Shayne Gostibehere. Gostibehere, 28, is an offensive defenseman with two years left on a 6-year, $27 million dollar contract he signed in 2017 with Philadelphia.
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pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 1:35 pm : link
PuckPedia
@PuckPedia
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28m
The #LetsGoOilers re-signed 39 y/o G Mike Smith to 2 year $2.2M Cap Hit Deal:

Yr 1: $1.9M Base
Yr 2: $2.5M Base

.923 SV% in 32GP

Rep'd by Kurt Overhardt @KOSportsInc
RE: WTF  
Mike in NY : 7/22/2021 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15310227 pjcas18 said:
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Carolina?


Maybe Ned wanted more than the owner wanted to pay. Trade everyone who makes a salary!
Sounds like not much back for ghost  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 1:40 pm : link
other than salary relief. They put him on waivers during the season and got no takers so this is suspicious.

dom at the athletic
@domluszczyszyn
Shayne Gostisbehere isn't what he used to be, but he still looks like a solid second pairing guy who can capably run a power play.
His best comp being John-Michael Liles feels incredibly apt.
RE: RE: WTF  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15310237 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15310227 pjcas18 said:


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Carolina?



Maybe Ned wanted more than the owner wanted to pay. Trade everyone who makes a salary!


they draft him in 2014, develop him, finally the light comes on and he looks really good and you trade him for a garbage draft pick and a pending UFA?

that doesn't sound like a solid plan.
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pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 1:46 pm : link
Rich Evans
@Hockeyagent
·
4m
Alex Nedeljkovic has agreed to terms on a 2 year contract with Detroit. $3.0M AAV.
return on Ghost more than I thought  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 1:55 pm : link
but it highlights a major failing by Francis that McPhee seized on.

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DJ Blok
@BlokzylDaniel
Replying to
@domluszczyszyn
So instead of a 2nd and a 7th, Seattle gets...

*checks notes*

Carsen Twarynski?
RE: return on Ghost more than I thought  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15310261 pjcas18 said:
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but it highlights a major failing by Francis that McPhee seized on.



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DJ Blok
@BlokzylDaniel
Replying to
@domluszczyszyn
So instead of a 2nd and a 7th, Seattle gets...

*checks notes*

Carsen Twarynski?



apparently I had some bad information and was right above when I said PHI gets cap relief - and they also send the 2nd and 7th.
RE: return on Ghost more than I thought  
Mike in NY : 7/22/2021 1:59 pm : link
In comment 15310261 pjcas18 said:
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but it highlights a major failing by Francis that McPhee seized on.



Quote:


DJ Blok
@BlokzylDaniel
Replying to
@domluszczyszyn
So instead of a 2nd and a 7th, Seattle gets...

*checks notes*

Carsen Twarynski?



I thought Philly gave up a 2 and a 7 for Arizona to take Ghost. Francis didn't want the 2 picks and be saddled with Ghost's salary.
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pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 2:02 pm : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
·
2m
Bruins and Taylor Hall are working on the final details of his agreement, including no-trade coverage. When finalized and signed, Hall stays in Boston for 4 years at $6 mil per season.
Goodrow official  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 2:06 pm : link
I'm only keeping this thread active - b/c the other thread is 99% NYR and if people want to talk other teams figure this thread is as good a place as any, but...

Mollie Walker
@MollieeWalkerr
·
3m
#NYR announced a six-year deal with Barclay Goodrow
RE: Goodrow official  
BrettNYG10 : 7/22/2021 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15310276 pjcas18 said:
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I'm only keeping this thread active - b/c the other thread is 99% NYR and if people want to talk other teams figure this thread is as good a place as any, but...

Mollie Walker
@MollieeWalkerr
·
3m
#NYR announced a six-year deal with Barclay Goodrow


I don't deserve this.

I love the Hall deal for the Bruins.
Wtf is Waddell doing?  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/22/2021 2:19 pm : link
Lose a Calder candidate goalie over 500k? Woof

Good comp for the Sorokin negotiations
NHL Schedule  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 2:34 pm : link
coming out.

these past two days just highlight how bad the NHL is at communications/media.

they botched the release of protected lists, the expansion draft was brutal and they jam schedule release in before the draft.
EDM  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 2:48 pm : link
is crazy (I'm anticipating an overpay)


Kevin McGran
@kevin_mcgran
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16h
Hearing Zach Hyman close to deal in EDM ... "It's in the Leafs corner." #Leafs #NHL #FreeAgentFrenzy #Oilers
Hyman  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/22/2021 2:59 pm : link
It's been reported as 5 or 5.5 depending if it's 7 or 8 years.
Will certainly be a buyout on the back end. He's a good support player who can play with stars, but we've all seen this movie before.
Sounds like SEA really botched this IMO  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 3:02 pm : link
Ghost has two years left and he's better than some D on SEA. Why not pick up a 2nd to take him.

Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
· 6m
Fletcher basically says that Seattle's price to take on Gostisbehere was much higher than the one he paid to Arizona today.
No idea how this works  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 3:16 pm : link


JFresh
@JFreshHockey
Zach Hyman has reportedly agreed to two contracts with EDM, 7x$5.5M and 8x$5.125M, pending a sign-and-trade with TOR.

Here's how each of those deals profiles using WAR. #LetsGoOilers
Shocker  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 3:26 pm : link
SNY
@SNYtv
·
1m
The Rangers will reportedly move on from defenseman Brendan Smith https://on.sny.tv/3Dqb5an
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Scott in Montreal : 7/22/2021 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15310252 pjcas18 said:
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Rich Evans
@Hockeyagent
·
4m
Alex Nedeljkovic has agreed to terms on a 2 year contract with Detroit. $3.0M AAV.


There is a story out there that Ned wanted 4 million from the Canes. The Canes offered 2 million. The Canes were still not sure if he was an actual #1.
When they could not agree. They asked Ned if he was to be traded where would he want to go and they would see about working a deal. He apparently said Detroit so he can be close to his fiancee.
That is also why he took the 3 million Detroit offered.

RE: Shocker  
BrettNYG10 : 7/22/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15310392 pjcas18 said:
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SNY
@SNYtv
·
1m
The Rangers will reportedly move on from defenseman Brendan Smith https://on.sny.tv/3Dqb5an


Smith would be a really good 6/7 guy.

His Ranger career was a little unfortunate - they screwed him by putting him as a winger, imo.
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pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 4:13 pm : link
NHL.com
@NHLdotcom
· 2h
Vladimir Tarasenko could remain with the Blues despite the forward's request to be traded, general manager Doug Armstrong said Thursday.

https://nhl.com/news/vladimir-
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pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 6:54 pm : link
He's going to miss the start of the season  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 7:00 pm : link
hard to see him adding value quickly.

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Hockey Hound Trade mark sign
@HockeyHoundShow
· 1h
tBreaking News: As reported by Aaron Portzline on SiriusXM radio, Portzline mentions that #CBJ Max Domi’s future with the Jackets are “murky at best.” And it’s possible he’s moved at the deadline.
Leave it to the NHL to announce the release of their schedule  
MetsAreBack : 7/22/2021 7:12 pm : link
and then none of the links on nhl.com and ESPN work...

Do know Rangers open in Washington on Wednesday, home opener vs Dallas Thurs 10/14 and play in Montreal Saturday and over to Toronto on Monday.

After that... well, I can wait i guess.
Islanders  
Mike in NY : 7/22/2021 7:13 pm : link
Start season on 13 game road trip
Isles 13 game road trip to start season  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/22/2021 7:13 pm : link
Yikes

I guess series play is out too. Not seeing a lot of two in a row opponents. Thought players wanted that
The NHL  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 7:23 pm : link
said today there was not majority support for "baseball style" scheduling - even though players generally liked it because it limited travel the support was not there nor could they make it work logistically for all 32 teams so they scrapped it in favor of the tradition schedule.

RE: Islanders  
ColHowPepper : 7/22/2021 9:13 pm : link
In comment 15310703 Mike in NY said:
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Start season on 13 game road trip
Maybe has something to do with date of completion of new arena, highway access?
Seth Jones  
pjcas18 : 7/22/2021 11:19 pm : link
to the Blackhawks picking up steam.

CBJ wanted Debrincat or Dach which were non-starters.

but talks are ongoing
RE: Seth Jones  
Stu11 : 7/22/2021 11:46 pm : link
In comment 15310858 pjcas18 said:
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to the Blackhawks picking up steam.

CBJ wanted Debrincat or Dach which were non-starters.

but talks are ongoing

Debrincat? Ha ha I guess I could ask for Scarlett Johansson
Draft tonight  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 7:53 am : link
Owen Power, Matty Berniers expected to go #1/#2 but not a year with a standout #1 pick, a solid top 15, but not much differentiation.

D heavy for the first time in a few years, which means teams may reach for a forward and from what I've read scouts and team executives haven't seen a ton of these kids - due to COVID, not nearly as much as a typical draft class, so you could look back and say "how did that guy get drafted in the 4th round".

that's why.
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pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 9:15 am : link
Costa Rontzocos
@Rontzeeez
·
46m
Friedman believes that Carolina wants to sign Dougie Hamilton to a contract similar to what St. Louis gave Torey Krug which was 7 x 6.5M

If that's true, he's going to get better offers on the open market by at least 1.5M if not more.

I think Hamilton gets closer to 9M than 7M
Agreed on Dougie.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/23/2021 9:26 am : link
I really don't know what CAR was thinking with that trade yesterday.
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Stu11 : 7/23/2021 10:37 am : link
In comment 15311040 pjcas18 said:
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Costa Rontzocos
@Rontzeeez
·
46m
Friedman believes that Carolina wants to sign Dougie Hamilton to a contract similar to what St. Louis gave Torey Krug which was 7 x 6.5M

If that's true, he's going to get better offers on the open market by at least 1.5M if not more.

I think Hamilton gets closer to 9M than 7M

Yeah 6.5 isn't gonna get it done. He's the best dman on the open market. Though all of these guys want they're cake and eat it too. They want to get paid and contend for a cup immediately. In a flat cap year the contenders just can't clear 8-9 mill. Honestly if he wants to contend for a cup and get paid, his best bet is to take 7 mill and stay in Carolina. A team like the Devs can got to 8 or 9 but he's not contending for the cup there next year. Maybe Montreal now the Weber may be done?
I hate Dougie Hamilton  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/23/2021 11:24 am : link
I recognize how good he is but I can't stand soft big guys.
Same here DYB  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 11:28 am : link
after seeing him cower away from Ovie in the playoffs on that forecheck play a couple years ago, I lost any respect I had for him.

Good player, but not a guy I'm ponying up big cash for though because he plays small.
RE: Same here DYB  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/23/2021 11:33 am : link
In comment 15311201 pjcas18 said:
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after seeing him cower away from Ovie in the playoffs on that forecheck play a couple years ago, I lost any respect I had for him.


That play haunts him like Cam not jumping on the fumble in the superbowl.

He's soft and tentative in his own end.
Probably goes better here:  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/23/2021 11:47 am : link
Quote:
WGR 550
@WGR550
Dreger - There's enough buzz around Ristolainen that it seems likely he's the first one out of Buffalo. As for Eichel, there was a source in New York that believed there's still a slim chance he could be heading to the #NYR. Nothing new regarding the #MNWild. #LetsGoBuffalo


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WGR 550
@WGR550
·
Jul 23, 2021
Replying to @WGR550
Dreger - I still think Rasmus Ristolainen is likely the first of the big-three to go. I know Winnipeg and Montreal would love to add Ristolainen. The Oilers have also kicked the tires on him too. #LetsGoBuffalo


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WGR 550
@WGR550
Dreger - The #FlyTogether I think are still in the mix for Eichel. I believe there's a team out there that's going to surprise all of us with a potential Jack Eichel trade. It's still a big "if". The team is in the East.


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WGR 550
@WGR550
Jul 23, 2021
Replying to @WGR550
Dreger - I don't think Buffalo needs the distraction of Jack Eichel coming back next season to training camp. #LetsGoBuffalo
WGR 550
@WGR550
Dreger - I still believe it's more likely that Jack Eichel gets dealt some time this week. #LetsGoBuffalo

More:  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/23/2021 12:04 pm : link
Quote:
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
Lots of things percolating around the NHL. Way too early to call what direction the Sabres are going with Eichel. However, teams with interest are encouraged by the fact Jack is training hard and skating. Good sign of where he feels his health is at.
With losing  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 12:16 pm : link
Weber, I can see MTL being a player for Ristolainen.

I mentioned above I have coveted Ristolainen for a while.

Cool view of all the home openers  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 1:09 pm : link
I feel like  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 1:20 pm : link
Nedeljkovic is better than all these guys. I think Bernier was in a shitty situation and is better than his name right now but Nedeljkovic was better IMO.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
·
1h
Carolina in discussions with both Jonathan Bernier and Petr Mrazek, hoping to get both UFA goalies signed. Not clear yet if they'll be able to pull it off or not.
Meanwhile, James Reimer (also UFA) is expected to go to market Wednesday where I think he'll have some solid options.
AZ  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/23/2021 1:34 pm : link
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David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
Coyotes are a team to watch today. They have multiple irons in the fire, beyond ongoing talks with Boston. Forwards like Garland & Dvorak could have new teams soon enough if AZ can wrap things up


Would also add OEL too I think.
yeah  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 1:41 pm : link
there is going to be a lot of trades.

Seth Jones
Jack Eichel
Ristolainen
Dvorak
Tarasenko


I've also heard the following being shopped
Gaudreau
Tkachuk (Matthew)

Anakim thinks
Barkov could be moved (I doubt it - best case at the deadline)

and I'm sure more I'm missing.
I think Barkov is moved too  
PwndPapi : 7/23/2021 1:46 pm : link
But more likely at the deadline. Would very much prefer him to Eichel.
First big trade goes down  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/23/2021 2:05 pm : link
between Buffalo and Philly.

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[PHI/BUF] Rasmus Ristolainen for Robert Hagg, 2021 1st round pick, 2023 2nd round pick
Tremendous trade  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/23/2021 2:07 pm : link
for Buffalo.

That first rounder is #13 tonight.
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ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/23/2021 2:18 pm : link
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Flyers paid a king's ransom to slightly downgrade their weakest regular defender. Incredible.


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JFresh
@JFreshHockey
Rasmus Ristolainen, acquired by PHI, is a big defenceman who notoriously has put up absolutely horrible results at both ends of the ice consistently throughout his entire career. #AnytimeAnywhere

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JayBinQueens : 7/23/2021 2:34 pm : link
In comment 15311436 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:
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Flyers paid a king's ransom to slightly downgrade their weakest regular defender. Incredible.





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JFresh
@JFreshHockey
Rasmus Ristolainen, acquired by PHI, is a big defenceman who notoriously has put up absolutely horrible results at both ends of the ice consistently throughout his entire career. #AnytimeAnywhere




I think PHI overpaid, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Risto play significantly better now that he's out of Buff
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