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NFT: NHL Expansion Draft Regular Draft and Off-season Discussion

pjcas18 : 7/12/2021 9:13 am
The expansion draft is 7/21.

Next Sunday (7/18) protected lists will be made public

NHL Draft is 7/23 - 7/24

Free Agency opens 7/28

a lot of movement will happen IMO b/c of a lot of factors including the flat cap - teams with cap space can make out like bandits just for taking a bad contract. Tarasenko, Eichel, and more could have new homes not even considering movement to help with the expansion draft or free agency.

This article linked below from THW is great, not sure there is a ton of accuracy to it, but it's still a fun read.


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Eichel  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/23/2021 2:43 pm : link
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Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
Lots of attention being paid to NYR, Minny, Anaheim, La as potential fits for Jack Eichel. Some rumblings Montreal could be in the mix for the star center.


Risto can be better, yes, but that is one hell of a haul for a player that you now also need to extend, as he only has one year left.
Lol Philly  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/23/2021 2:45 pm : link
Don't interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake
....  
BrettNYG10 : 7/23/2021 2:47 pm : link
I've criticized the Rangers a fair bit but they aren't as badly run as PHI.
That's a huge haul  
PwndPapi : 7/23/2021 2:56 pm : link
For a bust. Let's hope Philly isn't done yet.
I don't think he's a bust  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 3:21 pm : link
yet, but I do think he needs a change of scenery.

I would have liked him on MTL but not at that price.
RE: I don't think he's a bust  
PwndPapi : 7/23/2021 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15311532 pjcas18 said:
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yet, but I do think he needs a change of scenery.

I would have liked him on MTL but not at that price.


If he had never developed offensively, that'd be one thing. But it's kind of weird for a Finnish defender to continue to play so poorly in his own end this far into his career. He's going into his 8th full NHL season and there's literally nothing he's good at.
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Stu11 : 7/23/2021 3:55 pm : link
In comment 15311436 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:
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Flyers paid a king's ransom to slightly downgrade their weakest regular defender. Incredible.





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JFresh
@JFreshHockey
Rasmus Ristolainen, acquired by PHI, is a big defenceman who notoriously has put up absolutely horrible results at both ends of the ice consistently throughout his entire career. #AnytimeAnywhere



Exactly at least the Ghost gives you offensive punch and pp points.
RE: ....  
BrettNYG10 : 7/23/2021 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15311490 BrettNYG10 said:
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I've criticized the Rangers a fair bit but they aren't as badly run as PHI.


I spoke too soon. I hate myself.
Is there a brain eating amoeba in the Metro gm meetings?  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/23/2021 4:05 pm : link
That seems really light for Buch
Not sure  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 4:09 pm : link
I see the point of that trade.

but if there's a year to load up on 2nd/3rd round picks this is it.
^  
ColHowPepper : 7/23/2021 4:09 pm : link
as in feather light, wtf? Who is 'Sammy' Blais, don't know the name at all. Whatever the deal for Buch was going to be, I knew I wouldn't like it....but this???
RE: Not sure  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/23/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15311595 pjcas18 said:
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I see the point of that trade.

but if there's a year to load up on 2nd/3rd round picks this is it.


2nd is next year, if that's what you mean.

Rumblings that there's still more to come from Drury, so we'll see. Definitely don't like the return for this in isolation.
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pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15311596 ColHowPepper said:
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as in feather light, wtf? Who is 'Sammy' Blais, don't know the name at all. Whatever the deal for Buch was going to be, I knew I wouldn't like it....but this???


He's more of a bottom 6 forward - closer to 4th line than 3rd. high motor, plays PK, fans usually like him, but not a replacement for Buchnevich - almost like a lesser Goodrow.
Jake  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 4:24 pm : link
Bean reportedly available for a 2nd.

I hope MTL pursues - they have 2 2nd's - both late, but would be worth it IMO.
this is a big one  
JayBinQueens : 7/23/2021 4:37 pm : link
John Gambadoro
@Gambo987
·
14m
Breaking Arizona Coyotes news - hearing Ekman-Larsson and Garland deal with Vancouver close
.  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 4:42 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Credit to @Gambo987
who was first to report on OEL/Garland, but Beagle, Eriksson, Roussel and 9th overall pick are involved.
Some weird shit going on  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 4:45 pm : link
with GM's.

dom at the athletic
@domluszczyszyn
·
1m
so the canucks trade three players with no use who have a combined cap hit of $12M that all expire this year for one player with no use making $8.3 million for the next six years
got it
good work
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pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 4:50 pm : link
Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski
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2m
Arizona will trade OEL and Garland to VAN for Beagle, Roussel, Eriksson, 9th overall and "more coming," per source. Trade call isn't done. Not sure on any salary retention.
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JayBinQueens : 7/23/2021 4:58 pm : link
In comment 15311640 pjcas18 said:
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Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski
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2m
Arizona will trade OEL and Garland to VAN for Beagle, Roussel, Eriksson, 9th overall and "more coming," per source. Trade call isn't done. Not sure on any salary retention.


AZ retaining 1.2m/year on OEL contract
lol  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 5:02 pm : link
at least they retain some salary.

JFresh
@JFreshHockey
· 56s
Oliver Ekman-Larsson, acquired by VAN, is on arguably the worst contract in the entire league. He has been absolutely terrible for the past three seasons and is getting paid like a #1 for the next six seasons. #Canucks
RE: RE: ^  
ColHowPepper : 7/23/2021 5:36 pm : link
In comment 15311610 pjcas18 said:
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He's more of a bottom 6 forward - closer to 4th line than 3rd. high motor, plays PK, fans usually like him, but not a replacement for Buchnevich - almost like a lesser Goodrow.
thanks, pj.

Here is what Vince Mercogliano has to say on Buch deal (he writes for regional paper, but he's been good)--and of course a NYR source is going to say team loves him and has upside
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This story has been updated with more info.

A couple notes:

- #NYR grew convinced Buch couldn't fit into their long-term $ plans

- They feel this opens ice time for Kakko, Kravtsov, other young Fs

- They love Blais' fit in bot 6. I've had a few people tell me there's upside
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Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
· 1h
Pavel Buchnevich has been traded to the Blues for big-bodied forward Sammy Blais and a 2022 second-round pick.

Here's why #NYR did it and what it means moving forward Down pointing backhand index https://lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2021/07/23/ny-rangers-trade-pavel-buchnevich-st-louis-blues-player-pick/8048863002/
Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
·
40m
With all that said, this is definitely a risky move. Buch has been one of their best players and now they're taking him out of the lineup. That stings.

Does this open other possibilities? Is it a necessary evil? Time will tell. Drury is certainly putting his stamp on the roster.
And, oh year, it opens up ice time for the young Fs...if they RETAIN them and don't ship them out in another 'kill the rebuild' deal
Cool stuff  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 5:37 pm : link
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Dobber
@DobberHockey
Some interesting family ties in this year's #2021NHLDraft eligibles
#HockeyTwitter

If AZ has competent leadership  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 5:45 pm : link
they can turn things around. even though 8 of then 10 are second round, still a lot of players added.

Matt Smith
@Snakebite350
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4m
The Arizona Coyotes now have 10 1st/2nd rounds picks over the next two drafts.

1st - 3x 2nd - 2021
1st - 5c 2nd - 2022
We knew this, but more confirmation....  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 5:49 pm : link


Spector's Hockey
@SpectorsHockey
·
4m
Report: Hyman expected to sign with #Oilers https://thescore.com/nhl/news/2187556
via @theScore
.  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 6:10 pm : link
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
·
6m
Carey Price underwent knee surgery on Friday, and is expected to be ready for the start of the 2021-22 season.
.  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 6:17 pm : link
Boston Bruins
@NHLBruins
·
2m
Hall's Aboard! Steam locomotive

The #NHLBruins have signed @hallsy09
to a four-year contract with a $6 million annual cap hit.
.  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 6:36 pm : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
·
5m
Toronto and Edmonton will work on compensation agreement for Hyman. I don’t believe the Oilers are interested in giving up more than a late round draft pick. Oilers seem fine with a 7 or 8 year agreement.
as speculated...  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 6:49 pm : link
Emily Kaplan
@emilymkaplan
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1m
Seth Jones is being traded to the Chicago Blackhawks, sources tell ESPN.
also, he signs a 7 year extension, 9.5M AAV  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 6:59 pm : link


Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
· 4m
For picks and a player. Trade call hasn’t happened yet. But Seth Jones indeed headed to Chicago twitter.com/emilymkaplan/s…
Haven't seen all of the trade yet  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 7:01 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
5m
Adam Boqvist is going to Columbus
I read the Jones  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 7:05 pm : link
brothers will play together in CHI as a D pair which is kind of cool, but man that's a lot of coin.

I love Jones, top 10/15 D in the league, but again a lot of coin.
.  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 7:12 pm : link
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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4m
So far: Seth Jones and Pick 32 are going to the #Blackhawks. Jones has an agreement in principle for an eight-year, $9.5M extension that can be signed no earlier than July 28, when he enters final year of current deal.

#CBJ getting at Adam Boqvist, pick 12, and future picks
it's crazy right now...  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 7:13 pm : link
Phylippe Bernard
@PhylBernard
·
29s
Something brewing in Vegas too?
.  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 7:16 pm : link
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
·
2m
There may be some progress on an eventual Vladimir Tarasenko trade out of St. Louis. Not sure on timing, but talks have certainly picked up this afternoon.
I don't think Jones is as overrated as many analytics guys do...  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/23/2021 7:29 pm : link
But there is simply no way he lives up to that contract.
Man that contract is a big gulp for Chi  
Stu11 : 7/23/2021 7:40 pm : link
The return price was pretty steep too. Not sure with the shape that organization is in if that is the smartest use of funds and assets.
RE: .  
ColHowPepper : 7/23/2021 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15311763 pjcas18 said:
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David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
·
2m
There may be some progress on an eventual Vladimir Tarasenko trade out of St. Louis. Not sure on timing, but talks have certainly picked up this afternoon.
yeah, no shit there is movement now that they picked up Buch for a song
....  
BrettNYG10 : 7/23/2021 7:56 pm : link
Seeing JD make good moves for CBJ while Drury is being a moron hurts.
RE: ....  
Anakim : 7/23/2021 7:57 pm : link
In comment 15311788 BrettNYG10 said:
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Seeing JD make good moves for CBJ while Drury is being a moron hurts.


Tell me about it
CBJ crushing  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 8:19 pm : link
this off-season two days into it.

Mark Scheig
@markscheig
·
5m
#CBJ has now made the Jake Bean trade official. They send the 44th pick acquired from the Blackhawks to Carolina.
hard to say a team  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 8:21 pm : link
that loses Seth Jones is crushing the off-season, but here were are.
Power to  
pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 8:24 pm : link
BUF - not going to type all the picks - I'll leave the other thread for that - only newsworthy stuff I'll post in here.
RE: ....  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/23/2021 8:24 pm : link
In comment 15311788 BrettNYG10 said:
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Seeing JD make good moves for CBJ while Drury is being a moron hurts.


You guys realize that when the music stops NYR will be the only legit suitor for Eichel? Likely get a top 5 center for a discount
RE: RE: ....  
BrettNYG10 : 7/23/2021 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15311809 Diversify yo bonds said:
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In comment 15311788 BrettNYG10 said:


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Seeing JD make good moves for CBJ while Drury is being a moron hurts.



You guys realize that when the music stops NYR will be the only legit suitor for Eichel? Likely get a top 5 center for a discount


We'll see - hope you're right. But do you think Drury has a good plan for Zibanejad if we do get Eichel?
RE: RE: ....  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/23/2021 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15311809 Diversify yo bonds said:
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In comment 15311788 BrettNYG10 said:


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Seeing JD make good moves for CBJ while Drury is being a moron hurts.



You guys realize that when the music stops NYR will be the only legit suitor for Eichel? Likely get a top 5 center for a discount

No clue, I'm just reading the tea leaves and it reeks of Buffalo trying to pump up ANH and LAK as competition when there's literally no rationale for them to acquire him. Philly obviously blew their load so they're out.
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pjcas18 : 7/23/2021 11:48 pm : link
Hockey Hound Trade mark sign
@HockeyHoundShow
·
2m
Police cars revolving lightPolice cars revolving lightPolice cars revolving lightTrade Rumors: As reported by @FriedgeHNIC
the #LetsGoBuffalo and #FlaPanthers are working hard at completing a deal that involves Sam Reinhart.
.  
pjcas18 : 7/24/2021 12:17 am : link
As we wait on full trade details, Sam Reinhart's been informed he's now a member of the Florida Panthers.
MTL  
pjcas18 : 7/24/2021 8:58 am : link
and Bergevin being absolutely crucified all over social media.
RE: MTL  
Anakim : 7/24/2021 9:04 am : link
In comment 15312114 pjcas18 said:
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and Bergevin being absolutely crucified all over social media.


Rightfully so
People are saying  
pjcas18 : 7/24/2021 9:13 am : link
the Habs are going to double down and sign Tony Deangelo (if he's bought out).

they're not joking there is rumors of this.
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