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NFT: NHL Expansion Draft Regular Draft and Off-season Discussion

pjcas18 : 7/12/2021 9:13 am
The expansion draft is 7/21.

Next Sunday (7/18) protected lists will be made public

NHL Draft is 7/23 - 7/24

Free Agency opens 7/28

a lot of movement will happen IMO b/c of a lot of factors including the flat cap - teams with cap space can make out like bandits just for taking a bad contract. Tarasenko, Eichel, and more could have new homes not even considering movement to help with the expansion draft or free agency.

This article linked below from THW is great, not sure there is a ton of accuracy to it, but it's still a fun read.


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Rangers to sign  
KDubbs : 7/26/2021 1:41 pm : link
Nemeth
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.  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 1:52 pm : link
Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
Former #mnwild defenseman Ryan Suter still mulling over multiple opportunities and is expected to make decision on his next team by early Wednesday morning. He's got multiple multi-year options; 4 years seems likely. Believed Dallas, FLA, others, still in the mix
Players so far  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 3:31 pm : link
with no QO:

Sorry  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 3:35 pm : link
that list is *just* players who played in an NHL game last year and did not receive a QO making them UFA's.

many other players did not receive QOs
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pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 3:48 pm : link
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
· 11m
It sounds like Chris Wideman is a good bet to land with the #habs in free agency. The veteran defenceman is coming off a highly productive KHL season and is eligible to sign a NHL contract on Wednesday.
Good  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 3:57 pm : link
...now say NHL players will be in the Olympics

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
·
8m
Hearing #pens Mike Sullivan will be named Team USA coach for the 2022 Beijing Olympics. @DFOHockey
RE: Rangers to sign  
Greg from LI : 7/26/2021 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15313449 KDubbs said:
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Nemeth Link - ( New Window )


Pretty good third pair vet, but yet again they overpay for a back of the roster kind of guy.
Do this in a heartbeat, NOT Eichel  
ColHowPepper : 7/26/2021 4:22 pm : link
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Brendan Azoff
@AzoffBrendan
·
1h
It appears Danault is headed to the open market. If #NYR feel Chytil benefits from the jump to 2C and they move Strome, Danault is the perfect option. One of the best 2-way centers in the game who has the talent to flip flop with Chytil if he struggles in a bigger role.
Islanders and Dallas  
theold5j : 7/26/2021 4:52 pm : link
The 2 finalists for Suter....don't know how to post the screenshot from Twitter.
RE: Islanders and Dallas  
KDubbs : 7/26/2021 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15313624 theold5j said:
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The 2 finalists for Suter....don't know how to post the screenshot from Twitter.



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Bruins I get  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 6:17 pm : link
Preds? WTF are they doing?

Nick Alberga
@thegoldenmuzzy
· 1h
Two teams to watch closely on the Ryan Getzlaf front: #Preds & #NHLBruins.
RE: Bruins I get  
Mike in NY : 7/26/2021 6:21 pm : link
In comment 15313674 pjcas18 said:
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Preds? WTF are they doing?

Nick Alberga
@thegoldenmuzzy
· 1h
Two teams to watch closely on the Ryan Getzlaf front: #Preds & #NHLBruins.


Kase and Ritchie likely to be non tendered. Your thoughts pjcas?
Suter would be a great add for Isles  
Eric on Li : 7/26/2021 6:25 pm : link
pretty much the only guy avail who i'd view as a clear upgrade on Leddy. Would think he has the familiarity with Trotz (plus Parise possibly) and wants a chance at a cup.

if he goes elsewhere though I'd still be all over a Chara reunion, especially if they can get him cheap so they have money to add elsewhere.
RE: Do this in a heartbeat, NOT Eichel  
PwndPapi : 7/26/2021 6:34 pm : link
In comment 15313592 ColHowPepper said:
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Brendan Azoff
@AzoffBrendan
·
1h
It appears Danault is headed to the open market. If #NYR feel Chytil benefits from the jump to 2C and they move Strome, Danault is the perfect option. One of the best 2-way centers in the game who has the talent to flip flop with Chytil if he struggles in a bigger role.



I realize this is in hindsight to the two other terrible deals, but Danault is the guy I would have targeted all along. He's what this team really needs, a lockdown defender who's incredibly tough to play against.
RE: RE: Bruins I get  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 6:39 pm : link
In comment 15313676 Mike in NY said:
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Preds? WTF are they doing?

Nick Alberga
@thegoldenmuzzy
· 1h
Two teams to watch closely on the Ryan Getzlaf front: #Preds & #NHLBruins.



Kase and Ritchie likely to be non tendered. Your thoughts pjcas?


I like both as role players, but man what a bad trade. Didn't BOS trade a 1st round pick for Kase (maybe it was a Backes salary dump)? Never seemed healthy or a fit in BOS.

And Ritchie is a tank on skates. Love to add either for vet min or low $$$ deals.
Danault  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 6:42 pm : link
is better fit on a team like NYR or COL than on MTL.

On MTL he was a 1C, and while he's really developed his game and is criminally neglected in Selke votes he's a traditional 3C.

Your 1C should be able to score and Danault cannot. He tops out as a 50 pt player which is fine until you acknowledge he's playing with a LW1 and RW1, and he won't score 15 goals. With the right line mates and right situation his value would be very high.



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pjcas18 : 7/26/2021 6:48 pm : link
same reporter says COL in the mix too.

Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
· 6h
Jaden Schwartz and the #seakraken had real good discussions and it appears to be a strong landing spot but he wants to see who else they are bringing in before officially signing.
List of players  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 8:10 am : link
not offered the QO - making them FA's - nothing shocking on here, but teams have until the end of today I believe.
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Marc Andre-Fleury traded  
theold5j : 7/27/2021 11:38 am : link
from Vegas to Chicago per TSN
RE: Marc Andre-Fleury traded  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 11:40 am : link
In comment 15314125 theold5j said:
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from Vegas to Chicago per TSN


For nothing.

Not sure I get this. Cap relief?
Flat cap forcing moves  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 11:55 am : link
Canucks to buy out Holtby and this....

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
·
16m
Sources tell @KKurzNHL
and myself that the Sharks are placing Martin Jones on unconditional waivers today for purposes of a buyout
RE: RE: Marc Andre-Fleury traded  
Stu11 : 7/27/2021 11:55 am : link
In comment 15314128 pjcas18 said:
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from Vegas to Chicago per TSN



For nothing.

Not sure I get this. Cap relief?

Yep. Once they re-signed Martinez they were right up against the cap. Fleury or Lehner had to go.
That has to be the cheapest  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 11:58 am : link
price a reigning Vezina winner has been traded for in history.

Literally nothing.

Also, he found out via twitter. Shitty look for Vegas.
Not quite for nothing  
NYerInMA : 7/27/2021 12:12 pm : link
The Athletic is reporting:

"The Vegas Golden Knights have reached a deal with the Blackhawks to trade Marc-Andre Fleury to the Chicago in exchange for forward Mikael Hakkarainen, a source tells The Athletic. The deal is pending trade calls."
Golden Knights trading goalie Marc-Andre Fleury to Blackhawks: Source (paywalled) - ( New Window )
Buch just signed--very glad for him!! 4x$5.8  
ColHowPepper : 7/27/2021 1:29 pm : link
https://twitter.com/OhRyanMead/status/1420067736827441152 acc to Ryan Mead on twtr
Damn  
Kyle in NY : 7/27/2021 1:34 pm : link
Vegas management is absolutely ruthless. Wonder if they make a play for Eichel now
Rumors  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 3:16 pm : link
are Hurricanes reached a deal with Tony DeAngelo, haven't seen confirmation yet.
Low ball  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 3:30 pm : link
IMO

Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
· 11m
Latest info is that Avalanche are pitching a three-year deal to Landeskog at basically MacKinnon $$$ (around $6.3M AAV)
Call me crazy, PJ  
Anakim : 7/27/2021 3:30 pm : link
But is Danault really that much of an upgrade over Strome?
RE: Call me crazy, PJ  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15314336 Anakim said:
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But is Danault really that much of an upgrade over Strome?


I think so, Strome is brutal on the dots, and doesn't even take high leverage face offs and Strome is nowhere near the defensive player.

Strome is a better scorer.

but like I said it's why ideally you make Danault your 3rd line center (in MTL he was a 1C) - but know he can play 1C, 2C or 3C - just ideally he's a 3C.
RE: Not quite for nothing  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15314156 NYerInMA said:
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The Athletic is reporting:

"The Vegas Golden Knights have reached a deal with the Blackhawks to trade Marc-Andre Fleury to the Chicago in exchange for forward Mikael Hakkarainen, a source tells The Athletic. The deal is pending trade calls." Golden Knights trading goalie Marc-Andre Fleury to Blackhawks: Source (paywalled) - ( New Window )


Sounds more like actually for nothing. I don't get this at all. lol.

Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski
· 13m
VGK GM Kelly McCrimmon says that Mikael Hakkarainen, who was acquired for Vezina Trophy winner Marc-Andre Fleury, will continue to play in Chicago's organization despite the @GoldenKnights owning his contract.
RE: RE: Not quite for nothing  
PwndPapi : 7/27/2021 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15314348 pjcas18 said:
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Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski
· 13m
VGK GM Kelly McCrimmon says that Mikael Hakkarainen, who was acquired for Vezina Trophy winner Marc-Andre Fleury, will continue to play in Chicago's organization despite the @GoldenKnights owning his contract.


How does that work?
RE: RE: RE: Not quite for nothing  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 4:05 pm : link
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Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski
· 13m
VGK GM Kelly McCrimmon says that Mikael Hakkarainen, who was acquired for Vezina Trophy winner Marc-Andre Fleury, will continue to play in Chicago's organization despite the @GoldenKnights owning his contract.



How does that work?


On loan? no idea, I do know that often times when teams need some ECHL players they get loaned from team to team - some teams don't even have ECHL teams so they add any ECHL players in their organization to other teams ECHL teams.
.  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 4:24 pm : link
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
·
26m
The Stars are pushing hard to sign Ryan Suter to a multi-year deal. We'll see if they can get to the finish line.
RE: Not quite for nothing  
ColHowPepper : 7/27/2021 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15314378 pjcas18 said:
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On loan? no idea, I do know that often times when teams need some ECHL players they get loaned from team to team - some teams don't even have ECHL teams so they add any ECHL players in their organization to other teams ECHL teams.
Sounds like European footie where a PL team, e.g., arranges for a player under control of a team is loaned out to a different club (same or lower level of competition) so he can gain experience, allows for more informed decision as to his rights down the line. Happens frequently.
foregone conclusion  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 4:27 pm : link
If the NYR plan to contend  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 4:44 pm : link
this year - absolutely a guy they should look at.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
·
2m
Potential fits for Ryan Getzlaf if indeed he leaves Anaheim via free agency …
Edmonton, Montréal, Dallas, Boston.
@TSNHockey
@TheAthletic
RE: Rumors  
Mad Mike : 7/27/2021 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15314322 pjcas18 said:
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are Hurricanes reached a deal with Tony DeAngelo, haven't seen confirmation yet.

@peteblackburn: Can't fight your team's goalie if they don't have one
.  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 5:38 pm : link
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have agreed to terms on a four-year contract extension (2021-22 to 2024-25) with Joel Armia.

#GoHabsGo
.  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 5:39 pm : link
Dan Kramer
@DanKramerHabs
·
2m
AAV of $3.4M for ages 28-32.

- Glad to have him back with the #Habs.

- More term than I would have preferred, as with that salary comes production expectations (see: Byron, Paul). So don’t LOVE this deal…

- But still a useful and valuable player. #goHabsGo
better Armia than Danault  
ColHowPepper : 7/27/2021 6:08 pm : link
(:
RE: better Armia than Danault  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 6:52 pm : link
In comment 15314486 ColHowPepper said:
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(:


I think Danault is definitely gone and the Canadiens will be worse on paper because of it (and b/c of losing Weber who I freely admit is not Weber of 5 years ago, but also had a pretty high floor for play) so unless there is a ton of improvement from the youth, Scott in Montreal will get his wish for MTL.
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pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 7:07 pm : link
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
· 9m
Hearing that Nate Schmidt appears willing to waive his NTC to go to Winnipeg...
as the clock ticks  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 7:14 pm : link
Landeskog calling Av's bluff and it seems like Av's coming to their senses.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
3h
Okay, working on some stuff. Biggest one is probably Landeskog...hearing 7x7 is on the table, and there are discussions about the possibility of eight years. We will see where this goes. There are others who want him.
3 years 3M AAV  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 7:22 pm : link
Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
· 49m
Sounds like defenseman Mike Reilly is getting close to re-signing with the #bruins
I like Krebs  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 8:00 pm : link
Hague is still young, but not a significant player, and Smith is a UFA after the season and is also not a star, this is less than I thought it would be.

NYR equivalent would be something like Lundkvist, Chytil, Strome and 1st.

Ryan Kennedy
@THNRyanKennedy
·
17m
I’m hearing the Buffalo ask for Eichel from Vegas is Smith, Peyton Krebs, Nic Hague and a first-rounder.
the way you describe it, pj,  
ColHowPepper : 7/27/2021 8:12 pm : link
seems like Lundkvist, Chytil, Strome and 1st would be significantly higher value, never mind that it's two C for one in return. Doesn't make sense to me
the way you describe it, pj,  
ColHowPepper : 7/27/2021 8:12 pm : link
seems like Lundkvist, Chytil, Strome and 1st would be significantly higher value, never mind that it's two C for one in return. Doesn't make sense to me, but that said I don't have sense of those Vegans
RE: the way you describe it, pj,  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15314567 ColHowPepper said:
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seems like Lundkvist, Chytil, Strome and 1st would be significantly higher value, never mind that it's two C for one in return. Doesn't make sense to me


Just giving comparable value players - not saying the deal should be made or not for Vegas or the Rangers.

and Strome gets replaced by Eichel,and Goodrow can play C too.

Chytil has to be one of the worst face off guys in the league, Goodrow excels at face offs. it all starts with the face off. So often you analyze a goal against and it begins with a face off loss. Or you see an ineffective power play and it starts with a face off loss killing valuable time.

So underestimated by some fans (not you CHP, I know you get it).
I'm surprised there weren't more Kraken trades  
pjcas18 : 7/27/2021 8:17 pm : link


Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
·
6h
**Breaking News** @SeattleKraken
trade D Man MacDermid to @Avalanche
for a 4th Rd pick on 2023.
@espn
@NHL
@NHLNetwork
#TSNHockey #HockeyTwitter
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