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NFT: NHL Expansion Draft Regular Draft and Off-season Discussion

pjcas18 : 7/12/2021 9:13 am
The expansion draft is 7/21.

Next Sunday (7/18) protected lists will be made public

NHL Draft is 7/23 - 7/24

Free Agency opens 7/28

a lot of movement will happen IMO b/c of a lot of factors including the flat cap - teams with cap space can make out like bandits just for taking a bad contract. Tarasenko, Eichel, and more could have new homes not even considering movement to help with the expansion draft or free agency.

This article linked below from THW is great, not sure there is a ton of accuracy to it, but it's still a fun read.


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RE: Expect to see Greene sign shortly with the Isles  
Eric on Li : 7/17/2021 12:41 am : link
In comment 15306594 Mike from Ohio said:
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Hopefully the second round pick is enough to get Seattle to take Eberle. That gives them some significant cap room.

Would be really excited if all of this was being done with the idea that Landeskog is a viable get.


You were all over that rule. Great job I hadn't read that quirk anywhere else.

I'm a little surprised they were this aggressive to move Leddy, though the value seems fine. Does forebode that Lou has something planned that requires a healthy amount of cap.
Surprised we have not heard  
Mike from Ohio : 7/17/2021 9:12 am : link
that either Greene nor Coburn has re-signed with the Isles. I wonder if another trade that would include bringing back a disposable d-man is being discussed?

If you have time, use it. I’d guess a deal is in place with one of them that they can file at 4:59pm today to complete their list for Seattle if nothing else changes.
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BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2021 10:06 am : link
I think the Islanders did well in the Leddy trade. I don't know why DET did that trade.
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Mike from Ohio : 7/17/2021 10:13 am : link
In comment 15306778 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think the Islanders did well in the Leddy trade. I don't know why DET did that trade.


Agree, that return is pretty good considering they were likely going to lose him next week for no compensation. I see the deal from Detroit’s side as well. They get an experienced d-man who they can eat minutes and Be effective on the power play. Leddy’s contract is also expiring this year so he can bring something back at the trade deadline as well.
RE: .....  
Mike in NY : 7/17/2021 10:16 am : link
In comment 15306778 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think the Islanders did well in the Leddy trade. I don't know why DET did that trade.


Detroit thinks he can get them more at trade deadline than the 2nd/Panik they traded. He also gives a veteran leader in D corps.
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BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2021 10:17 am : link
Why did they retain salary on Panik? Leddy is still a top four dman, but the Wings are still going to suck this year. They can use as many picks as they can get.

Leddy is a loss but the Islanders have breathing room on the cap now.
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BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2021 10:18 am : link
In comment 15306793 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15306778 BrettNYG10 said:


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I think the Islanders did well in the Leddy trade. I don't know why DET did that trade.



Detroit thinks he can get them more at trade deadline than the 2nd/Panik they traded. He also gives a veteran leader in D corps.


That's fair, the other thing I was thinking is picks in next year's draft might be better than this year because we will have a real scouting year. So even if they still just get a second it might be better for them.
RE: .......  
Mike in NY : 7/17/2021 10:23 am : link
In comment 15306794 BrettNYG10 said:
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Why did they retain salary on Panik? Leddy is still a top four dman, but the Wings are still going to suck this year. They can use as many picks as they can get.

Leddy is a loss but the Islanders have breathing room on the cap now.


I think they retained salary because they could and the $1M or so got them a better player in return. Panik (if he would ever accept coaching) fits Islanders better than he does Detroit and he was blocking some younger players. I think other teams wanted one of the younger guys like Hirose or were not offering someone like Leddy.
Dylan Larkin is the only player in Detroit  
Mike from Ohio : 7/17/2021 10:24 am : link
Who is signed beyond this year. Before the trade, Panik was as well. I think Detroit was trying to get rid of him and get back a uselful player with an expiring contract.

My guess is they look at Leddy getting them back at least the draft pick they gave up at the deadline.

Trade/signing freeze is at 3pm EST today, so should see something by then from the Islanders.
You have to see another  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 10:29 am : link
move from NYI, they don't have any D that meet the criteria to expose for the expansion draft
Drury said to be active on the tradefront  
Anakim : 7/17/2021 10:31 am : link
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RE: You have to see another  
Mike in NY : 7/17/2021 10:58 am : link
In comment 15306802 pjcas18 said:
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move from NYI, they don't have any D that meet the criteria to expose for the expansion draft


Coburn or Greene would be eligible if they sign a 1 year vet minimum deal. I could also see a team with excess eligible D like Boston or especially Los Angeles being interested in a forward (or in Los Angeles’s case Varlamov with how their goalies played)
RE: RE: You have to see another  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 11:01 am : link
In comment 15306816 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15306802 pjcas18 said:


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move from NYI, they don't have any D that meet the criteria to expose for the expansion draft



Coburn or Greene would be eligible if they sign a 1 year vet minimum deal. I could also see a team with excess eligible D like Boston or especially Los Angeles being interested in a forward (or in Los Angeles’s case Varlamov with how their goalies played)


Exactly, but point is they need to make a move, whether it's a trade or signing, something has to be done in the next 4 hours.
RE: RE: RE: You have to see another  
Mike in NY : 7/17/2021 11:04 am : link
In comment 15306819 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15306816 Mike in NY said:


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In comment 15306802 pjcas18 said:


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move from NYI, they don't have any D that meet the criteria to expose for the expansion draft



Coburn or Greene would be eligible if they sign a 1 year vet minimum deal. I could also see a team with excess eligible D like Boston or especially Los Angeles being interested in a forward (or in Los Angeles’s case Varlamov with how their goalies played)



Exactly, but point is they need to make a move, whether it's a trade or signing, something has to be done in the next 4 hours.


Okay. I took your post as meaning they had to make a trade
I think there is almost no chance  
Mike from Ohio : 7/17/2021 12:04 pm : link
That either Greene or Coburn has not already agreed to a deal already. Lou is likely trying to see if there is anything else out there to do prior to submitting that contract at 2:59pm.
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 12:42 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 5m
Hearing DAL and Miro Heiskanen closing in on long-term extension. 8 years, north of $8M
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 12:49 pm : link
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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2m
Memo DONE DEAL: Dallas Stars re-sign Miro Heiskanen to eight-year, $8.45M AAV contract extension. #GoStars
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BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2021 12:58 pm : link
Domi is apparently going to be exposed by CBJ.

Someone should offer-sheet Makar.
RE: .  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/17/2021 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15306877 pjcas18 said:
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NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Memo DONE DEAL: Dallas Stars re-sign Miro Heiskanen to eight-year, $8.45M AAV contract extension. #GoStars


Holy shit. Probably my favorite dman in the league. Makar is gonna get PAID
RE: ....  
Diversify yo bonds : 7/17/2021 1:04 pm : link
In comment 15306883 BrettNYG10 said:
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Domi is apparently going to be exposed by CBJ.

Someone should offer-sheet Makar.


Every year for the last 20 years writers seeking clicks write the evergreen "could player x be in danger of an offer sheet" and it never happens. The Aho sheet was a favor to Carolina, other than that gms don't piss off the fraternity.

Tactically I agree with you. If ever there was a situation (flat cap) and a worthy player Makar is it.
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BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2021 1:08 pm : link
Diversify, I know - GMs just can't violate hockey culture since they all get fired and get hired by their friends. It's stupid.

I read an article about the Rangers offer sheeting Sakic in '97. The picks they were going to give up were Malhotra, Lundmark, Blackburn, a pick used to move up and get Brendl, and a pick to acquire Bure.

A team like the Wild would be picking in the 20s with Makar for the next few years.

Also, if you're a western GM offering $10-12 you can really screw COL. Big benefit.
RE: .  
Anakim : 7/17/2021 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15306877 pjcas18 said:
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NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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2m
Memo DONE DEAL: Dallas Stars re-sign Miro Heiskanen to eight-year, $8.45M AAV contract extension. #GoStars


There's the Fox standard
RE: RE: .  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 1:33 pm : link
In comment 15306895 Anakim said:
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In comment 15306877 pjcas18 said:


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NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Memo DONE DEAL: Dallas Stars re-sign Miro Heiskanen to eight-year, $8.45M AAV contract extension. #GoStars



There's the Fox standard


And McAvoy
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 1:33 pm : link
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
· 17m
All signs point to the Seattle Kraken signing and selecting pending UFA goalie Chris Driedger from the Florida Panthers as part of the expansion draft process, sources say.
@TSNHockey @TheAthletic
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 1:54 pm : link
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
·
5m
Brian Bartlett, agent for Cale Makar, says no news on a new contract but having “cordial conversations” with the Avs.
This is the team you deal with  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 1:55 pm : link
they are in a tough cap spot....

Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
· 9m
The Lightning are trying to attach draft picks to bad contracts to get the off the books. #NHL

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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 2:16 pm : link
Kevin Kurz
@KKurzNHL
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I’m told Sharks are getting close to acquiring another goalie. Sounds like it’s going to happen before the 12 noon PT deadline
30 min left  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 2:31 pm : link
probably details will trickle in after like most deadlines.

Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
·
41m
Told the Winnipeg Jets are trying to move forward Mason Appleton #nhljets
Not the goalie  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 2:35 pm : link
I thought...

Spector's Hockey
@SpectorsHockey
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3m
Kurz now reporting the #SJSharks have acquired Adin Hill from the #Coyotes.
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 2:38 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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30s
ARI/SJ deal will be Adin Hill and a 7th for Josef Korenar and a 2nd. Both picks in 2022
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 2:54 pm : link
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Canucks have a deal coming @SatiarShah
NYI news coming  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:00 pm : link
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Tampa Bay Lightning
@TBLightning
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8m
We have signed Fredrik Claesson to a one-year, two-way contract.
When are we hearing about an Eichel trade dammit.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2021 3:01 pm : link
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:03 pm : link
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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The NHL's Expansion Draft trade/waiver freeze is now in effect through 1 p.m. ET on Thursday.

The #SeaKraken are the only team permitted to make roster moves during this period.
RE: When are we hearing about an Eichel trade dammit.  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15307003 BrettNYG10 said:
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unless it involves the Kraken not until Thursday.
This guy  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:06 pm : link
was removed from many teams draft boards for some kind of revenge porn incident (I think he shared pictures online from a consensual sexual encounter). I wonder if a team takes a chance. Oh, poor taste by the CHL putting this out knowing the history. I guess.

Canadian Hockey League
@CHLHockey
· 4m
The 23rd ranked North American skater for the #NHLDraft, Logan Mailloux of the @LondonKnights, blends parts of Brent Burns and Darnell Nurse into his game.

#MeetTheFuture | @KubotaCanadaLtd
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:07 pm : link
Matthew DeFranks
@MDeFranks
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Sounds like Dallas has something in the queue before the roster freeze.
whoa  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:09 pm : link
love this for VAN depending what they gave up.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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1m
Jason Dickinson from DAL to VAN
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:11 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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1m
Jared McCann to TOR
RE: whoa  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:12 pm : link
In comment 15307017 pjcas18 said:
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love this for VAN depending what they gave up.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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1m
Jason Dickinson from DAL to VAN


3rd round pick to DAL - love this for VAN.
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:13 pm : link
In comment 15307018 pjcas18 said:
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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1m
Jared McCann to TOR


Return is Filip Hallander and a 7th
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pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:14 pm : link
In comment 15307021 pjcas18 said:
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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1m
Jared McCann to TOR



Return is Filip Hallander and a 7th


Sadly I like this for TOR. McCann replaces the grit they likely lose this off-season. McCann can do everything decently, not a star, but he can score, play d, play specials.
Ryan Ellis was traded to the Flyers  
Anakim : 7/17/2021 3:18 pm : link
Shiiiiit
The analytics nerds really like McCann.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2021 3:19 pm : link
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RE: Ryan Ellis was traded to the Flyers  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15307027 Anakim said:
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Shiiiiit


For Myers and Patrick.
wow  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 1m
Ellis to PHI for Philippe Myers and Nolan Patrick. Patrick is going to Vegas for Cody Glass twitter.com/frank_seravall…
MTL  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:23 pm : link
wanted Cody Glass in the Pacioretty trade, but settled for Suzuki because Vegas wouldn't part with Glass.

I think it worked out fine, but I'm surprised they gave up Glass for Patrick.
RE: MTL  
Anakim : 7/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15307032 pjcas18 said:
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I think it worked out fine, but I'm surprised they gave up Glass for Patrick.


Two former high picks who have panned out and are oft-injured
Haven't seen what NYI  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
did, but my guess is signed one of the veteran D like Greene
RE: RE: MTL  
Anakim : 7/17/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15307033 Anakim said:
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In comment 15307032 pjcas18 said:


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I think it worked out fine, but I'm surprised they gave up Glass for Patrick.



Two former high picks who have panned out and are oft-injured


*haven't
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