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Brandon Jacobs: “True Champion, True leader. Tom Coughlin is all we needed to be champions. We don’t win shit without him. We played for Tom.” |
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Lawrence Tynes: “Tom is not for everybody, but he is for those who want to lift up that Lombardi Trophy.” |
Seems like quite a gamble that Seattle won’t take him.
Seems like quite a gamble that Seattle won’t take him.
Mike, I'm thinking you're posting on wrong thread. Haha.
I hear ya with limited free time with kids. That's why being in a sports group chat is great. I learn all of this through them, Haha.
Thanks for the run down, SF! I definitely didn’t know the back story with TCs time there. It really was a flash in the pan. I remember after year one the owner gave TC credit for getting the team turned around. Next thing I knew he was firing TC. Can’t keep up!
This is literally the only site I look at anymore. Other than if I have to use a vendor portal for treasury purposes at work. I just flat out don’t care about anything outside work and this site when it comes to the internet. I glean enough about the outside world from here and random texts from friends. But I just don’t care to look at anything out there anymore. And as you know it gets testy on here often as well. The “tolerance” thread being a prime example.
It’s been great not being up to speed with current events. They come and go so fast that it makes me chuckle hearing coworkers bitch about something and by the next morning that thing that angered them is an afterthought, as the new rage of the day has taken hold!
My son is my world now. And the Giants are my one hobby I still keep an eye on to help with relaxing my mind during stressful periods at the office.
I remember just about losing faith (maybe the press was right?) right up to the beginning of 2006 season (2007 super bowl?). They lost the first 2 games and then Kawika Mitchell(?) saved the 3rd game with a goal line tackle against Washington. Then they won (I think) 6 straight after that to take them to 6-2 ... then it was still a little rocky after that and they finished 10-6.
I will never forget the photo of TC with his feet up on his desk and the term "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" .... on the white board behind him. It was my desktop for months.
I was so happy ... I was so proud when I looked at that daily.
And he brought home two Lombardi’s on his watch so he did indeed show some greatness in there somewhere...
But he won 2 Super Bowls and that puts him on a short list in NFL history. Only 13 coaches have done it. I believe 11 of them are in the HOF. Mike Shanahan 2-0 in SBs, 8-6 in playoff games 170-138 regular season record is the only one who isn't yet besides Coughlin 2-0 SB's 19-12 in playoff games 170-150 regular season record. I think both will eventually make it.
I loved TC as the head coach, he is a winner and will always be a winner in my book. It was time for him to go though. His type of coaching cant be sustained when you are losing.
2) What I will say is even if his coaching style rubbed some the wrong way when not winning, my impression is you would be hard pressed to find a single player who does not respect Coughlin as a man. He genuinely seemed to care about his players and their lives away from the field.
3) Did Tiki quit because of Coughlin or to preserve his body? Or a combo? In any regard, it was Coughlin who helped him take his game to the elite level.
4) I don't disagree that it was time for Coughlin to go when he did. What I had a problem with was Reese was allowed another couple of seasons. Coughlin may have been struggling to keep this team afloat. But, Reese also had personnel issues that even the owner cited as the reason for failure in Coughlin's exit presser. There were significant deficiencies on the OL and D that lasted more than a season or two. Coughlin was shown the door and then we spent a boatload on D, which amounted to 1 phantom good season because everyone on the D had a career year at the same time. The same D shit the bed the following year and the OL was still a mess. It got another coach fired. Why was Reese given the pass when Coughlin was fired? It should have been a whole new regime.
Sounds like all that went out the window in Jax
I'm not sure how ridiculous it is. Over the past year, I have been continually frustrated by Zoom meetings where the host says something like, "We'll wait a few more minutes to give people time to log on...". I guess it depends on how precious other people's times are.
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that ridiculous set your watch wrong policy there?
I'm not sure how ridiculous it is. Over the past year, I have been continually frustrated by Zoom meetings where the host says something like, "We'll wait a few more minutes to give people time to log on...". I guess it depends on how precious other people's times are.
I totally understand why Reese outlasted Coughlin. He was younger, and he inherited both the QB & head coach. Now, he couldn’t do any better in who he inherited, but why shouldn’t Reese have gotten the opportunity to have a say in a new head coach?
On the flip side, Gettleman has already had the opportunity to draft a franchise QB (Reese never did) and sit in on two rounds of head coaching interviews (Reese only did it once). Reese’s record was much better than Gettleman’s is with the Giants. I don’t find it unreasonable at all that Reese outlasted Coughlin.
Arniefez. Have you played sports? It is fairly common that some players will have issues with a coach particularly when losing sets in. I found this true in the military and corporate environments as well. The darts come out when things are not going well. Sometimes deserving but often times not.
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I'm not going to get into specifics but your point #2 would not be backed up if people from the Giants and Jacksonville days II chose to speak publicly. They will not because they have nothing to gain. This is just a message board and we're all pretty much anonymous so feel free to ignore this but I have been told that Tom Choughlin is not always a nice guy and he didn't always care about his players right from the horses mouth. The NFL is a tough business and there is a very ugly side to it that is kept buried under the mountain of money produced by it.
I wonder if Jake Novak would agree with point 2. That was a pretty nasty situation back in Jacksonville.
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