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NFT: Mets: Diaz benched; Rojas ejected; Mets win

Vanzetti : 7/18/2021 4:59 pm
Jauss goes to May for the save after Mets came back from 6-0 deficit.

It was a comedy of errors for Mets last two days but they come up with what could be a season Saving victory.
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FUUUUUUDGE  
pjcas18 : 7/19/2021 3:43 pm : link
only I didn't say fudge.

Pat Ragazzo
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Source: The #Mets are looking to make a "big splash" at the MLB trade deadline in order to solidify their spot in the postseason. They have also shifted their focus to top-tier trade targets such as Kris Bryant and Jose Berrios. #LGM

Details:
Cost  
DanMetroMan : 7/19/2021 3:44 pm : link
for Berrios is reportedly "huge". 2 top prospects AND a cost-controlled player.
Just does not  
pjcas18 : 7/19/2021 3:52 pm : link
make sense to me to be aggressive with deGrom's health questionable, the bullpen imploding, Lindor out for a month (or who knows if longer), Stroman inconsistent since the foreign substance ban, etc.

I think they should stand pat, or sell parts off (like Stroman, Diaz, Familia, May, JDD, Conforto maybe).
Don’t think they should be too aggressive in adding but  
Metnut : 7/19/2021 4:20 pm : link
selling off parts while in first place in late July doesn’t make any sense to me. Even with the injuries the Mets roster doesn’t seem demonstrably worse then any of the other teams in division.
Berrios  
DanMetroMan : 7/19/2021 4:26 pm : link
has been vocal about wanting to explore FA so yeah "Cohen is rich" is true, I'd be very, very careful paying a bounty for 1.5 years of a good (not great) SP. I would not go that route given the rumored cost.
Unless the Mets  
pjcas18 : 7/19/2021 4:26 pm : link
are confident they will have deGrom, Syndergaard, and Carrasco in October, I'd sell.

selling in first place is bold, but sometimes smart when being in first place is built off fool's gold or a mediocre division or players not currently playing - and your team doesn't seem like it will truly be competitive.

Something to be said about living to fight another day, and being stronger when you do.
RE: I would love to go back and run the season back..  
CooperDash : 7/19/2021 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15308133 moze1021 said:
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without the opening weekend cancellation.

I feel like the offense tumbled out of the gates and still just hasn't regained footing. It's been really confusing to watch, because I still look around and don't see any place I'd want a significant talent upgrade in the field.

Barring injury, there isn't a guy in the starting lineup who I'd be surprised with if they put up All-Star caliber numbers.


No offense, but the cancellation of the opening weekend - while it sucked - has absolutely zero impact on this season. I never bought into that in the first place, and 90 games later it should have zero impact on the season.

As we've seen over and over again in past years - how you play in Spring Training doesn't necessarily spill over into the beginning of the season. The Mets could have easily lost that opening series to the Nationals.

Injuries have absolutely decimated this club. Like many clubs. If we can somehow hang on to the division (because it's the only way any team out of the west will get to the playoffs) and be relatively healthy, then we have as good a chance as any. But there have been a lot of disappointments so far this season.

It stinks but, hey, at least we are in first! (Sorry DMM - couldn't resist!)
Hey  
DanMetroMan : 7/19/2021 5:08 pm : link
I fully admit I'm a pessimistic sports fan but I've really tried not to rain on anybody's parade this season, I just haven't enjoyed it as I anticipated. I've enjoyed baseball on the whole but I thought they would be much more entertaining and quite frankly haven't been. Their run differential is now +5, 14th best in baseball... Dodgers...+154!!
And  
DanMetroMan : 7/19/2021 5:15 pm : link
yeah, I guess what I'm saying is... where are fans supposed to be excited about what they have seen? deGrom has been otherworldly(but the injuries have taken their toll)

offensively

Conforto awful
McNeil disappointing
Lindor disappointing
Dom disappointing
Alonso very solid but not the 2019 monster
McCann disappointing
Nimmo (when healthy) has mashed
Davis (when healthy) has mashed (but apparently is now a bench player)

even some of the guys who have provided some good moments quietly have ugly numbers. Pillar, Peraza etc. It's tough to really get excited to watch these games
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/19/2021 5:16 pm : link
Miami now is in LAST place (13 games under .500) despite a +16 run differential, St Louis is 1 game under .500... despite a NEGATIVE 42 run differential!
maybe im an outlier but im extremely happy w/ this year so far  
Eric on Li : 7/19/2021 5:31 pm : link
and the only way I'd sell is if like 3 or 4 major players got shut down for the season in the next 2 weeks.

they haven't hit to their potential but I have 0 issue winning with pitching, defense, and timely hitting. In fact I prefer it because time and time again we see that kind of baseball played in the playoffs. In the inverse how many times have we seen teams mash their way to 100+ wins while being sloppy in the field or in the BP and losing quick?

yes to go anywhere in the playoffs a few guys are going to have to play much better than they have so far. And obviously JDG pretty much needs to be healthy. But as of now that's entirely possible.
carrasco is pitching in trenton tomorrow for syracuse  
CGiants07 : 7/19/2021 5:38 pm : link
could be activated after that
RE: maybe im an outlier but im extremely happy w/ this year so far  
DanMetroMan : 7/19/2021 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15308207 Eric on Li said:
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and the only way I'd sell is if like 3 or 4 major players got shut down for the season in the next 2 weeks.

they haven't hit to their potential but I have 0 issue winning with pitching, defense, and timely hitting. In fact I prefer it because time and time again we see that kind of baseball played in the playoffs. In the inverse how many times have we seen teams mash their way to 100+ wins while being sloppy in the field or in the BP and losing quick?

yes to go anywhere in the playoffs a few guys are going to have to play much better than they have so far. And obviously JDG pretty much needs to be healthy. But as of now that's entirely possible.


Haven't hit to their potential is maybe the understatement of the year. They are 29th in runs scored (4 ahead of the Pirates)
Stand pat  
pjcas18 : 7/19/2021 5:47 pm : link
at the deadline, fine.

Aggressively add at the cost of Mauricio, Ginn, or better, I don't think I can support.

Especially for a rental.

Too much unknown, I'm normally a "go for it" guy and I value major league success at the expense of the farm all the time, but i fear doing so this year with questions to deGrom and everyone after him in the rotation along with a suddenly leaky bullpen would limit the ability to do so in future years when it may make more sense to do so.

I don't see this team winning with pitching and defense without deGrom and Lindor and JDD back in the lineup.
RE: RE: maybe im an outlier but im extremely happy w/ this year so far  
Eric on Li : 7/19/2021 7:02 pm : link
In comment 15308213 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15308207 Eric on Li said:


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and the only way I'd sell is if like 3 or 4 major players got shut down for the season in the next 2 weeks.

they haven't hit to their potential but I have 0 issue winning with pitching, defense, and timely hitting. In fact I prefer it because time and time again we see that kind of baseball played in the playoffs. In the inverse how many times have we seen teams mash their way to 100+ wins while being sloppy in the field or in the BP and losing quick?

yes to go anywhere in the playoffs a few guys are going to have to play much better than they have so far. And obviously JDG pretty much needs to be healthy. But as of now that's entirely possible.



Haven't hit to their potential is maybe the understatement of the year. They are 29th in runs scored (4 ahead of the Pirates)


they are 1 currently run per game below both 2019 and 2020 with basically the same personnel so at some point there's going to be some regression to the mean. part of that is injuries and part of it is some guys just having not great years so far.

maybe it's a snakebit year and they just never start scoring runs for whatever reason but this isn't 2015 with john mayberry hitting cleanup, eric campbell talking about hitting the ball hard, and everyone praying for a good 3rd opinion on wright's spine.
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