Gil believes in Daniel

But if Jones breaks out this year I guarantee Terps somehow spins this into “I knew this could happen all along.” I just hope people hold his feet to the fire

In comment 15309815 Go Terps said:

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I think the most pragmatic way to frame the question is in relation to Jones's fifth year option and a possible second contract. If he's a passenger on a 10-7 team that makes the playoffs, should that preclude the Giants from looking to improve and/or stay cheap at quarterback? To justify the fifth year option he has to play at a level he's never shown. Not impossible, but is it realistic?

you mean at a level you refuse to see beyond your ESPN stat sheet. He's played at a very high level in spots in my view of him when he actually plays.

the continual exaggeration that Jones has never played well. Terps has even tried to portray that Jones is the worst 1st round QB in recent memory - with a self-created spreadsheet, mind you.

Saying he has to play at a level he's never seen before makes it seem like the guy has never done well. He played for a bottom feeder in the ACC and helped them get to a bowl game. He threw 24 TD's his rookie season although some will have you believe it is tough for him to break 10 TD's. He tied a rookie record for having 4 or more TD's in a game, but Terps will come on here and say that doesn't matter because he played terrible in every other game.

Basically, any positive said about Jones a supposed fan of the team not only tries to refute but takes great pains to do so - even creating a table to try and show just how shitty Jones is.

And the prevailing question continues to be a very basic one - Why? Why on every thread about Jones is there a need to tell the board how bad he has been? and it is stated bluntly that he hasn't just been bad - but historically bad - without the actual proof to make such a ridiculous statement

Why don’t we ponder that as well?

Oh, I know why. Because nobody cares...

for getting Duke to a bowl game. That suggests all teams that go to bowl game are actually good or even have winning records. Which is just not the case. Bowl games outside the final four are a bigger joke than ever.

So it’s not the best argument here. I’m more convinced that any success Duke had with Jones is considerably more Cutcliffe at this point than Jones.

The chart displayed that what I'm saying isn't exaggerated or groundless: Jones was indeed the least (or maybe second least behind Locker...maybe) productive first round college quarterback of the past decade. That's a fact...he ranked 49th out of 49 in several key categories.

Yeah he went to Duke...which lends the question of why we drafted a guy for whom an excuse already had to be made? We can be fairly confident of why - the Cutcliffe/Manning connection. If Jones had the identical college career at another school unconnected to Cutcliffe/Manning would the Giants still have drafted him? Seems unlikely. The process that led to his being drafted seems to have been deeply flawed, and we've seen the results through two years. Little reason to expect something different in year three...particularly with Garrett as the OC. It's a marriage made in third and long.

I'm optimistic though. I think Judge is going to draft a guy that he wants in 2021, and I trust that Judge's methodology will be smarter and more thorough than "Let's call Ernie and see what he thinks." I think things are looking up.

I love the continual exaggeration too …

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although some will have you believe it is tough for him to break 10 TD's.

Wait, who said that again? Oh right, no one.