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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 10:21 am
Per Jack Ramsay the Mets have signed Mike Vasil

Syracuse
Mazeika 1-4
Carrasco 1.2 innings 3 hits 5 runs 3 walks 1 k (allowed 3 homers)
Lee 0-3, K


AA
Cortes 1-5, HR
Mangum 0-4, BB, K
Baty 0-3, 2 BB, 2 k's
Vientos 1-3, 2 BB

BK
Mauricio 2-4
Alvarez 1-4, HR

St. Lucie

Palmer 1-5, HR, 2 k's
Ramirez 2-4, BB, K
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KDavies : 7/21/2021 10:24 am : link
getting worried about the rotation. Are they seriously talking about Banda and Stock in a doubleheader against the Braves?
Stock  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 10:28 am : link
was pulled due to his hammy so he may not even be available to go.
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KDavies : 7/21/2021 10:31 am : link
In comment 15309396 DanMetroMan said:
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was pulled due to his hammy so he may not even be available to go.


Duh. That slipped my mind. Even more desperate.

This season is so crazy with the injuries. The position players came all at once. And now the pitchers seem to be coming a bunch at once.
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Named Later : 7/21/2021 11:24 am : link
In perhaps the most important start of his baseball career.....Robert Stock comes up with a bad hammy. Shit like that will get you sent back to the New Jersey Jackals, pitching for beer money.

I'm going to call into question the Mets Athletic Training staff. There seems to be an awful lot of this type injuries.
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Rory : 7/21/2021 12:34 pm : link
In comment 15309431 Named Later said:
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In perhaps the most important start of his baseball career.....Robert Stock comes up with a bad hammy. Shit like that will get you sent back to the New Jersey Jackals, pitching for beer money.

I'm going to call into question the Mets Athletic Training staff. There seems to be an awful lot of this type injuries.


Its not just the Mets though, IMO the extended layoff, the 60 game season and just overall adjustment to Covid should be considered as major factors as well.

Also we are asking guys who have barely pitched in the majors and over 2-3 innings to pitch way more often.
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Rory : 7/21/2021 12:38 pm : link
Chris Flexen back from Seattle, that would help out a bit.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15309496 Rory said:
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Chris Flexen back from Seattle, that would help out a bit.


Not happening. 2022 salary...2.75 million. Seattle is 7 games over .500, 3 behind in the WC standings.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 12:57 pm : link
Per @Ken_Rosenthal @Mets are among the teams that have shown interest in Merrill Kelly, but notes @Dbacks have been reluctant to move him with an eye toward 2022 #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 1:02 pm : link
@JimBowdenGM predicts @mets will "go big" at the deadline. Names Kris Bryant, rotation and bullpen as needs/targets #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 1:11 pm : link
Robert Colina (who had some buzz in 2018+2019) and who is still only 20 is off to a solid start. Today 3.2 innings 5 hits 2 runs 2 walks 4 k's. 21 k's over his first 14 2021 innings #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 1:40 pm : link
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Mets sign Calvin Ziegler, RHP from Heidelberg, Ontario, Canada, their second rounder for $910,000. No. 55 pick overall. Top Canadian prospect was Auburn commit.
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KDavies : 7/21/2021 1:43 pm : link
In comment 15309547 DanMetroMan said:
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Mets sign Calvin Ziegler, RHP from Heidelberg, Ontario, Canada, their second rounder for $910,000. No. 55 pick overall. Top Canadian prospect was Auburn commit.


Wasn't he reported at "slightly under slot?" That's more than $700k under. I was wondering where the bulk of the money for Rocker was coming from when it was reported Zeigler was only slightly under slot.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15309550 KDavies said:
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Mets sign Calvin Ziegler, RHP from Heidelberg, Ontario, Canada, their second rounder for $910,000. No. 55 pick overall. Top Canadian prospect was Auburn commit.



Wasn't he reported at "slightly under slot?" That's more than $700k under. I was wondering where the bulk of the money for Rocker was coming from when it was reported Zeigler was only slightly under slot.


He was a 3rd-4th round prospect so he was taken with the understanding the pick was made (in large part) due to the Rocker money. Schwartz/Scott saved them an additional 100K or so. Hamel, David, Kendall, Seymour were all seniors so they will save significant money on those 4 as well. There were no "tough signs" for the Mets this year.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 1:49 pm : link
In comment 15309550 KDavies said:
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Mets sign Calvin Ziegler, RHP from Heidelberg, Ontario, Canada, their second rounder for $910,000. No. 55 pick overall. Top Canadian prospect was Auburn commit.



Wasn't he reported at "slightly under slot?" That's more than $700k under. I was wondering where the bulk of the money for Rocker was coming from when it was reported Zeigler was only slightly under slot.


It seems as if his dad (from what I can tell) was the source for his signing so it's likely he wanted to make his son look good (not that there is anything wrong with taking under slot money and going round 2 in the MLB draft).
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Mike in NY : 7/21/2021 1:50 pm : link
In comment 15309550 KDavies said:
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Mets sign Calvin Ziegler, RHP from Heidelberg, Ontario, Canada, their second rounder for $910,000. No. 55 pick overall. Top Canadian prospect was Auburn commit.



Wasn't he reported at "slightly under slot?" That's more than $700k under. I was wondering where the bulk of the money for Rocker was coming from when it was reported Zeigler was only slightly under slot.


Definitely. From what was reported I was expecting that they just rounded down to $1.6M or somewhere close to that. $910K is basically 70th pick money which is maybe even slightly below where he'd be in hindsight if you remove the unsignable players from the board. I also have a feeling that our 3rd round pick will come with savings (not to mention David and Seymour providing some flexibility as well).
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KDavies : 7/21/2021 1:52 pm : link
yeah, I got that he was picked ahead of where he would have because of Rocker. My confusion was with the reports of him being "just under slot," but if the source was the father that clarifies things.
MLB.com  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 1:59 pm : link
had him 123 (just for context, not for his eventual outcome) but that's a 4th round grade, BA liked him less (272). He reportedly had excellent workouts for a few teams. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come and not workout king Andrew Church who reportedly wowed them in a workout and stunk
Hamel  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:02 pm : link
despite his upside, is still a senior, he has no leverage so there will be savings there.

4/10 have signed, they have [potentially if they spend with the 5% overage) 1,742,615 to spend on the final 6 picks in the top 10, 4 seniors, Vasil and Askew. Jack Ramsey reported Vasil is signing for slot (and is already in PSL) but nobody else has that just yet.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:04 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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The Mets claimed right-hander Roel Ramírez off waivers from the Cardinals and optioned him to Syracuse. He's a reliever who briefly appeared in the Majors last month for St. Louis.
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Mike in NY : 7/21/2021 2:07 pm : link
In comment 15309568 DanMetroMan said:
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had him 123 (just for context, not for his eventual outcome) but that's a 4th round grade, BA liked him less (272). He reportedly had excellent workouts for a few teams. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come and not workout king Andrew Church who reportedly wowed them in a workout and stunk


With an SEC committment, that is better than what Church had. Ziegler also showed more in HS than Church did.
Personally I have no problem with the pick if it helped us get Rocker and Vasil and both of those hit. That being said, it will be intersting to see what House gets from Washington and Watson gets from Marlins to see if paying Rocker $6M ends up being worth it.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:08 pm : link
Roel Ramirez MLB stat line...1 inning, 7 hits, 9 runs, 3 walks 1 K, 81.00 era lol The new Lino Urdaneta!
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15309580 Mike in NY said:
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had him 123 (just for context, not for his eventual outcome) but that's a 4th round grade, BA liked him less (272). He reportedly had excellent workouts for a few teams. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come and not workout king Andrew Church who reportedly wowed them in a workout and stunk



With an SEC committment, that is better than what Church had. Ziegler also showed more in HS than Church did.
Personally I have no problem with the pick if it helped us get Rocker and Vasil and both of those hit. That being said, it will be intersting to see what House gets from Washington and Watson gets from Marlins to see if paying Rocker $6M ends up being worth it.


I'm not criticizing the pick, my Church comment was simply the "impressive workout" connection. Joe Doyle really liked the arm (noted the command is currently poor), Keith Law similarly liked the arm but knocked the command.
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Mike in NY : 7/21/2021 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15309581 DanMetroMan said:
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Roel Ramirez MLB stat line...1 inning, 7 hits, 9 runs, 3 walks 1 K, 81.00 era lol The new Lino Urdaneta!


If we were going to target anyone I would have inquired about T.J. Zeuch who was recently DFA'd by Toronto. He has been killed by the long ball, but that is an issue with where Toronto has been playing. I still see some potential.
Zeuch  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:25 pm : link
and Crick have MLB success.This guy isn't even a random power arm you roll the dice on. Odd pickup
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:27 pm : link
Jacob Resnick
@Jacob_Resnick
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2m
More official #Mets draft signings, via @BaseballAmerica
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RHP Levi David (9) - $120K
LHP Keyshawn Askew (10) - $125K
OF Rowdey Jordan (11) - $125K
OF Jack-Thomas Wold (12) - $125K
LHP Nick Zwack (17) - $50K
Little higher than I exepected for David  
Mike in NY : 7/21/2021 2:30 pm : link
But it looks like there was more money to play with than I expected (I thought Ziegler would be in the $1.2M range before the announcement of slightly under slot).
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:36 pm : link
Mets have 1 million left to spend on Hamel, Vasil, Seymour and Kendall
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Vanzetti : 7/21/2021 2:38 pm : link
In comment 15309431 Named Later said:
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In perhaps the most important start of his baseball career.....Robert Stock comes up with a bad hammy. Shit like that will get you sent back to the New Jersey Jackals, pitching for beer money.

I'm going to call into question the Mets Athletic Training staff. There seems to be an awful lot of this type injuries.


Sandy had these questions raised before. He brought in that fitness guru who had David Wright using the heavy robes even though he had disc problems.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:40 pm : link
In comment 15309611 Vanzetti said:
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In perhaps the most important start of his baseball career.....Robert Stock comes up with a bad hammy. Shit like that will get you sent back to the New Jersey Jackals, pitching for beer money.

I'm going to call into question the Mets Athletic Training staff. There seems to be an awful lot of this type injuries.



Sandy had these questions raised before. He brought in that fitness guru who had David Wright using the heavy robes even though he had disc problems.


Mike Barwis? He was hired by the Wilpons who knew him from Michigan.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:48 pm : link
@fangraphs
ranks @mets
1st round pick Kumar Rocker their #5 prospect. 1. Alvarez 2. Baty 3. Mauricio 4. Allan 5. Rocker, 3rd round pick Dominic Hamel is ranked #15 in the system, 2nd rounder Calvin Ziegler 25th (26th but there is a typo/added name) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 2:54 pm : link
@fangraphs ranks Francisco Alvarez #7 overall (#1 NYM), Baty #18 (#2 NYM), Mauricio #31 (#3 NYM), Allan #66 (#4 NYM), Rocker #95 (#5 NYM) giving @mets 5 prospects in the top 123
#7 for Alvarez?  
KDavies : 7/21/2021 3:31 pm : link
Geez, that's the highest I've seen him
McKInney  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 3:32 pm : link
to the Dodgers for Carlos Rincon
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Eric on Li : 7/21/2021 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15309622 DanMetroMan said:
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@fangraphs ranks Francisco Alvarez #7 overall (#1 NYM), Baty #18 (#2 NYM), Mauricio #31 (#3 NYM), Allan #66 (#4 NYM), Rocker #95 (#5 NYM) giving @mets 5 prospects in the top 123


I promise I'm not related to Vientos - but it's pretty awesome that not only do we have Baty at #18, but Vientos who is younger and absolutely crushing AA just as much as Baty was pre-promotion at A+.

Obviously there are talent evaluations beyond stats especially w/r/t defense that may very well differentiate the 2 as significantly as the rankings indicate but the depth in the top 10 right now seems like it's as good as it's been at any time in the last decade (which was obviously a real good decade).
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pjcas18 : 7/21/2021 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15309622 DanMetroMan said:
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@fangraphs ranks Francisco Alvarez #7 overall (#1 NYM), Baty #18 (#2 NYM), Mauricio #31 (#3 NYM), Allan #66 (#4 NYM), Rocker #95 (#5 NYM) giving @mets 5 prospects in the top 123


Don't they have 5 in the top 95?
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 3:34 pm : link
Prospectslive.com ranked Rincon the Dodgers #47 prospect before the season. 30-hit, 60-power, 40 fielder and runner
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15309656 pjcas18 said:
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@fangraphs ranks Francisco Alvarez #7 overall (#1 NYM), Baty #18 (#2 NYM), Mauricio #31 (#3 NYM), Allan #66 (#4 NYM), Rocker #95 (#5 NYM) giving @mets 5 prospects in the top 123



Don't they have 5 in the top 95?


Fangraphs list is 123 deep. So it's notable in that PCA and Vientos are not on the list. I'm not "stopping" arbitrarily where Rocker lands.
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 3:43 pm : link
It appears @fangraphs is not buying Carlos Cortes stock, he's ranked #23 in the system
Kelenic  
pjcas18 : 7/21/2021 5:03 pm : link
3 for 19 with 9 k's since his recall (including so far 0 for 2 today).

Kid must really be pressing.

Almost feel bad for him at this point. I never hoped he did poorly, now I hope he breaks out.
Good  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 5:06 pm : link
Olympic baseball primer
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 5:21 pm : link
Palmer with 2 more hits and a SB (his 23rd, good for 3rd in the LAS). His July OPS is up to .960. Alex Ramirez 0-3, BB, SB, Jose Peroza 4-4 (did commit 3 errors). Santos 6 innings 8 hits 2 er 0 walks 4 k's (Could see him as part of a Bryant deal)
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 5:26 pm : link
If the Cubs truly are scouting @mets FSL team that likely means they are eying (one if not multiple) of Jaylen Palmer, Alex Ramirez, and Junior Santos. Those 3 represent the only "prospects" currently playing for that team #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 5:33 pm : link
@fangraphs
had the Mets system #16 before the draft, it now moves up to #14 pre-trade deadline #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 7/21/2021 5:53 pm : link
6th-rder Carson Seymour signs w/@Mets for $291,400 (full pick 172 value). Kansas State RHP, some of best pure arm strength in @MLBDraft, mid-90s fastball that reaches triple digits, upper-80s slider that climbs into the 90s, still figuring out how to harness it.
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