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NFT: NBA FA Chat: Lonzo Scouting Report

adamg : 7/22/2021 1:45 am
Pretty good info on what Lonzo brings.
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Pain in the Ass Dad.  
George from PA : 7/22/2021 5:18 am : link
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RE: Pain in the Ass Dad.  
Heisenberg : 7/22/2021 7:56 am : link
In comment 15309977 George from PA said:
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This is really not a factor, IMO.
This is a really good write up. Really good, imo  
Heisenberg : 7/22/2021 8:03 am : link
I like Lonzo as a fit if we add an all star level wing that can attack the rim and create. Lonzo provides a lot but creation off the dribble is not that. You can get a bit of that from Randle, but we saw the limitations of that against really good defenses. Lonzo is a really good complementary player but having a PG that is not the leader of the offense is limiting unless you get that creation elsewhere. Thats why I think the best fit for him is CHI, next to Lavine.
I like Lonzo  
nygiants16 : 7/22/2021 8:06 am : link
and i would be conpletely fine if the Knicks went after him BUT i dont think he fits into Thibs point guard mold..Thibs wants a guy who attacks, it is why he kept Payton as thr starter..

I think it is why they like Sexton, they want a guy who will attack the rim..

Now if you tell me they get bith Sexton and Ball i would love that.
RE: I like Lonzo  
robbieballs2003 : 7/22/2021 8:36 am : link
In comment 15309995 nygiants16 said:
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and i would be conpletely fine if the Knicks went after him BUT i dont think he fits into Thibs point guard mold..Thibs wants a guy who attacks, it is why he kept Payton as thr starter..

I think it is why they like Sexton, they want a guy who will attack the rim..

Now if you tell me they get bith Sexton and Ball i would love that.


What PGs or wings fit that mold in the draft. I think that is important. Springer and Cooper seem to.
RE: RE: I like Lonzo  
nygiants16 : 7/22/2021 8:38 am : link
In comment 15310003 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 15309995 nygiants16 said:


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and i would be conpletely fine if the Knicks went after him BUT i dont think he fits into Thibs point guard mold..Thibs wants a guy who attacks, it is why he kept Payton as thr starter..

I think it is why they like Sexton, they want a guy who will attack the rim..

Now if you tell me they get bith Sexton and Ball i would love that.



What PGs or wings fit that mold in the draft. I think that is important. Springer and Cooper seem to.


bouknight, Mcbride,
RE: I like Lonzo  
robbieballs2003 : 7/22/2021 9:19 am : link
In comment 15309995 nygiants16 said:
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and i would be conpletely fine if the Knicks went after him BUT i dont think he fits into Thibs point guard mold..Thibs wants a guy who attacks, it is why he kept Payton as thr starter..

I think it is why they like Sexton, they want a guy who will attack the rim..

Now if you tell me they get bith Sexton and Ball i would love that.


I think him and Quickley would be a good complement to each other. We'd still need another penetrator even if we sign Rose. Both play D. Both can hit the outside shot. Lonzo doesn't have to handle the ball all the time with Quickley and Randle on the court.
Bouknight  
GMEN46 : 7/22/2021 9:21 am : link
I’m confused is he a PG or wing?

Please pass on Lonzo, he is not a for for this team. We need a true PG and a true SG to pair with our other 3 starters
Bouknight  
Jon in NYC : 7/22/2021 9:26 am : link
is a SG but also could go as high as 6 if recent rumors are to be believed.
Bouk is too slight to be more than a SG, probably.  
Heisenberg : 7/22/2021 9:55 am : link
As a UConn fan, it would be fun for the Knicks to nab him but he's also got a LOT of work to do to match the Zach Lavine comp folks like to use for him. Aside from the dunking, the rest of his game is not there yet.
I really don't want Sharife Cooper.  
bceagle05 : 7/22/2021 10:14 am : link
Liability on defense due to his size and presently an awful shooter from three point range. I hope a lot of that talk is just smokescreen. He profiles as a back-up/spark plug type and we already have Quickley, Vildoza and likely Rose who can give us backup PG minutes.
RE: I really don't want Sharife Cooper.  
Heisenberg : 7/22/2021 10:20 am : link
In comment 15310074 bceagle05 said:
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Liability on defense due to his size and presently an awful shooter from three point range. I hope a lot of that talk is just smokescreen. He profiles as a back-up/spark plug type and we already have Quickley, Vildoza and likely Rose who can give us backup PG minutes.


The size thing is a real issue, but you're probably overweighing the stats from 12 games to say he's a bad shooter. He's an outstanding passer and strong penetrator and creator.
a backcourt  
NYG22 : 7/22/2021 10:22 am : link
of Sexton, Ball would be a great fit I think

(backed up by IQ, LV, Bullock - who would also play behind RJB at the 3, then I'd draft Grimes at 32)
RE: RE: I really don't want Sharife Cooper.  
bceagle05 : 7/22/2021 10:27 am : link
In comment 15310081 Heisenberg said:
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The size thing is a real issue, but you're probably overweighing the stats from 12 games to say he's a bad shooter. He's an outstanding passer and strong penetrator and creator.

Yeah I'm sure I'll talk myself into it after his first good summer league performance. I think I just prefer safer bets in that part of the draft.
They have two picks if they stay at 19 and 21. I'd think that an  
Heisenberg : 7/22/2021 10:33 am : link
upside pick like Cooper and a safer pick like Murphy or Duarte or Butler would actually be a use of those picks.
a *good use  
Heisenberg : 7/22/2021 10:33 am : link
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Is it me or is the rumor mill  
GMEN46 : 7/22/2021 12:51 pm : link
Pretty quiet. Draft is one week from today and free agency shortly after. I guess not as many star free agents available, but still I’m surprised that rumors aren’t all over the place.
Bobby Marks says  
nygiants16 : 7/22/2021 1:30 pm : link
Keep an eye on Knicks for Chris Paul if there is a stalemate between Paul and Suns..

Sounds like Paul using Knicks for leverage
RE: Is it me or is the rumor mill  
nygiants16 : 7/22/2021 1:31 pm : link
In comment 15310212 GMEN46 said:
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Pretty quiet. Draft is one week from today and free agency shortly after. I guess not as many star free agents available, but still I’m surprised that rumors aren’t all over the place.


probably monday you start to hesr more rumors i think..

RE: Bobby Marks says  
Jon in NYC : 7/22/2021 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15310230 nygiants16 said:
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Keep an eye on Knicks for Chris Paul if there is a stalemate between Paul and Suns..

Sounds like Paul using Knicks for leverage


Probably, but Sarver is historically a complete cheapo. It wouldn't surprise me if they found a way to fuck this up.
RE: RE: Bobby Marks says  
nygiants16 : 7/22/2021 1:37 pm : link
In comment 15310235 Jon in NYC said:
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Keep an eye on Knicks for Chris Paul if there is a stalemate between Paul and Suns..

Sounds like Paul using Knicks for leverage



Probably, but Sarver is historically a complete cheapo. It wouldn't surprise me if they found a way to fuck this up.


I have to look at their cap BUT if i am the suns i would hesitate to give him 3 hears 100 m..

i would go younger, you may take a step back but it gives you more longevity, i think they take a step back even if they bring back paul
KWALL goes nuts  
Stan in LA : 7/22/2021 3:55 pm : link
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