NFT: NHL 1:00PM Roster Unfreeze

Rangers trade Strome for Giordano (widely speculated).

After that.....

I think Rangers trade Chytil, Kravstov, Jones, and pick #15 for Jack Eichel before or during the draft.

No way Seattle flew him in and introduced him to their fans only to trade him today.

Would be a bad look for them, but it is all clearly a show so who knows.

I'd be willing to deal Chytil or Kravtsov, but not both.

In comment 15310048 TeamSchlitz1 said:

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Rangers trade Strome for Giordano (widely speculated). After that..... I think Rangers trade Chytil, Kravstov, Jones, and pick #15 for Jack Eichel before or during the draft.

According to Brooks' tweet from this morning, the Rangers haven't been granted access to Eichel's medicals as of now. I can't imagine any trade going down without a thorough review of those files. I would hope to keep Krav in any potential deal, and would probably prefer Nils/Schneider going instead since our D pipeline is stocked (though that's a tough one). As time goes on, I think the cost gets less and less as Eichel's no movement clause kicks in next summer, and he can have Buffalo in a bad spot then.

he did not look out of place at all last year. But if we hung onto Buch and our top 6 RWs were Buch/Kakko, I could live with that.

the same can be said about Jones.... I did not know that the Rangers have not seen his medicals. Now I am reconsidering my stance haha.

Does any team other than Buffalo have his medical records?

First of all he is probably the 2nd best dman in the draft, love how young he is and like Jay says he could play a big role in keeping Jack in Jersey down the road.

a while back, and I could be mistaken, Buffalo was only going to share for serious suitors. I'd imagine the Rangers fall in that category, but if they haven't received them yet, maybe the interest is a little more lukewarm, or Buffalo is trying to play hardball and drum up more interest?

If we do stay put in the draft, I'm fine hanging where we are and taking C Fyodor Svechkov.

JB was just on NHL Radio. His last comment was that he believes the Rangers have a deal in place for eichel IF that want to pull the trigger.

In comment 15310089 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:

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a while back, and I could be mistaken, Buffalo was only going to share for serious suitors. I'd imagine the Rangers fall in that category, but if they haven't received them yet, maybe the interest is a little more lukewarm, or Buffalo is trying to play hardball and drum up more interest?

Are Drury and Dolan nuts: Team is considering a blockbuster for Eichel without a hands-on exam by their own docs with their own film? This was where JD could have made his presence felt, but, oh, wait......

An insider on HF said he doesn't think any team other than Buffalo has seen Eichel's medical records.

But apparently Drury runs a somewhat tight ship, so leaks might not get out.

the Kraken are trading Tyler Pitlick to the Flames for a draft pick.

He looks like a keeper and was surprisingly good both ways in his limited burn last season.

In comment 15310160 BrettNYG10 said:

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An insider on HF said he doesn't think any team other than Buffalo has seen Eichel's medical records. But apparently Drury runs a somewhat tight ship, so leaks might not get out.

Brett, is it true that Drury and Eichel have the same agent? acc. Ryan Mead.

agree...he needs to add to upper body strength and bulk, but a ton of skill...he's a sniper, and Rangers haven't had many of them in recent years, until Artemi came along.

I googled and came across this (clearly outdated) site, where someone else at the same agency claims to have had Drury as a client.
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In comment 15310191 BrettNYG10 said:

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I googled and came across this (clearly outdated) site, where someone else at the same agency claims to have had Drury as a client. Global Hockey - ( New Window )

Peter Fish is the name Mead mentions.

Is not a bottom six forward, we have Kravtov, Kakko, and Buchnevich, one if them needs to go. Lunkqvist is a player that if they trade him they will regret it forever. Kravtov looks to me to be more talented then Buchnevich, but talent alone is not enough, we simply do not know enough about Kravtov to make a good decision. I would not make many trades at all, if anything, add a bottom six forward, big and tough, and maybe a big defensive defenseman to play the left side with Lundkvist on the right. Let this coach and Drury evaluate what they have with a coach that knows what the hell he is doing, Quinn was horrible. Fuck Eickel, a herniated disc in the NHL is not an injury to take light at all.

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Quote: Kevin McGran @kevin_mcgran · 1h In addition to Edmonton, where a deal seems imminent (7x$5.5M or 8x$5.125M), the Panthers — who drafted Hyman — Rangers and the Bruins made credible offers ... Another team in rebuild-mode offered more, 6x$7M) ... Hyman’s preference: 1. Stay in Toronto ... 2. Play for a contender

Probably before the Goodrow deal

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Is not a bottom six forward, we have Kravtov, Kakko, and Buchnevich, one if them needs to go. Lunkqvist is a player that if they trade him they will regret it forever. Kravtov looks to me to be more talented then Buchnevich, but talent alone is not enough, we simply do not know enough about Kravtov to make a good decision. I would not make many trades at all, if anything, add a bottom six forward, big and tough, and maybe a big defensive defenseman to play the left side with Lundkvist on the right. Let this coach and Drury evaluate what they have with a coach that knows what the hell he is doing, Quinn was horrible. Fuck Eickel, a herniated disc in the NHL is not an injury to take light at all.

I don't agree. If they're all effective two-way players that play the body, then I don't see why any of them need to go. They're all wings with scoring ability and size. There ought to be no rush to deal any of them. The key through the season and playoffs is still being able to score goals.

And I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that Lunkqvist is a player we will regret dealing forever, having never suited up in the NHL - yet we "don't know enough about Kravstov".

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Quote: John Gambadoro @Gambo987 · 3m Breaking Coyotes News - Coyotes on verge of acquiring Flyers defenseman Shayne Gostibehere. Gostibehere, 28, is an offensive defenseman with two years left on a 6-year, $27 million dollar contract he signed in 2017 with Philadelphia. Quote: Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun · 2m Hearing Detroit is acquiring goalie Alex Nedeljkovic from Carolina @TSNHockey @TheAthletic

Horrendous trade by Carolina

trade is a 2022 2nd round pick, and 7th round pick (STLs)

In comment 15310242 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:

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trade is a 2022 2nd round pick, and 7th round pick (STLs)

So Philly unloads an expensive, one-dimensional player they don't use and get a second round pick...

is sending the 2nd round and 7th rounder with Ghost. They get nothing back other than cap relief.

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is sending the 2nd round and 7th rounder with Ghost. They get nothing back other than cap relief.

That makes more sense

would be a dereliction of duty.

Is there any chance he’s traded? I can’t imagine he’d re-sign with the Rangers when his contract ends plus Kincaid looks like a decent backup.

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Is there any chance he’s traded? I can’t imagine he’d re-sign with the Rangers when his contract ends plus Kincaid looks like a decent backup.

Seravalli mentioned they're taking calls on him, Buch, and Strome. So maybe.

Signed - terms.
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Nedeljkovic was supposedly our goalie of the future.

Detroit Red Wings are acquiring Alex Nedeljkovic from the Carolina Hurricanes for a third round pick and Jonathan Bernier.

did not want to go to arbitration with him at all, so they tried to sign him, failed, and boom.

we just handed a 28-year-old 4th liner a 6-year contract with a partial NMC. He's going to be making $5M+ when he's 33 and 34 years old. Terrible.

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we just handed a 28-year-old 4th liner a 6-year contract with a partial NMC. He's going to be making $5M+ when he's 33 and 34 years old. Terrible.

Good FA's always get paid more than they should in both $$ and term. It is what it is. If you watched the playoffs, you would have seen Goodrow is exactly what the team needs. We have the cap space, so we paid for it. Can't complain about it too much. I'd pay up for Goodrow's linemate too...he would be perfect on the RW of Bread and Strome's line.

Coleman.

In comment 15310308 PwndPapi said:

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we just handed a 28-year-old 4th liner a 6-year contract with a partial NMC. He's going to be making $5M+ when he's 33 and 34 years old. Terrible.

The Rangers don't care about actual money, just cap money. 3.6AAV is NOT that bad at all. Once the salary cap goes up next year it will look much more in line. Also if they buy him out after 4 years it is not going to bury them like the Shatty/Girardi buyouts. Lastly, if he hit the market he was going to get 4+ easily. That is the price you pay.

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In comment 15310308 PwndPapi said: Quote: we just handed a 28-year-old 4th liner a 6-year contract with a partial NMC. He's going to be making $5M+ when he's 33 and 34 years old. Terrible. Good FA's always get paid more than they should in both $$ and term. It is what it is. If you watched the playoffs, you would have seen Goodrow is exactly what the team needs. We have the cap space, so we paid for it. Can't complain about it too much. I'd pay up for Goodrow's linemate too...he would be perfect on the RW of Bread and Strome's line.

At that point we would just have to trade for Gourde from Seattle, get the band back together.

our dead cap figure is winding down from the older buyouts (ADA should increase the figure a little bit), so this year we have about $4M in dead cap ($1.5M from Hank, $1.4M Shatty, $1.1M Girardi- dead God). Next year Hank's comes off, and the dead cap is only $2.5M from Shatty and Girardi. The year after we're clear.

I'd let him go elsewhere. There are other players out there who are tough to play against and solid defensively. I'd have rather trade picks to acquire one than hand out this ludicrous contract. Total overreaction that's got Dolan's hoofprints all over it.

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35 year old enforcer a 5MM+ a year long term contract.

He is 28, he will be 34 when the deal is over. Not the ideal age range but you cant even be a free agent in the NHL until you have 7 years in, or are 27 years old. We are not aquiring someone already on the down swing.

We are paying him 3.6M, this number, while high for a 4th liner, is not going to bury us. Once the cap goes up it will look very pedestrian.

Six years is not ideal but we have shown we are not afraid to use buyouts, and a buyout after 4/5 years is going to minimally crippling.

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First of all he is probably the 2nd best dman in the draft, love how young he is and like Jay says he could play a big role in keeping Jack in Jersey down the road.

I keep seeing it too and I pray this is how it plays out. I really want Hughes for his talent alone. I have this gut feeling that Owen Power is going to be a bust so I hope he goes top 3 as expected.

In comment 15310373 TeamSchlitz1 said:

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35 year old enforcer a 5MM+ a year long term contract. He is 28, he will be 34 when the deal is over. Not the ideal age range but you cant even be a free agent in the NHL until you have 7 years in, or are 27 years old. We are not aquiring someone already on the down swing. We are paying him 3.6M, this number, while high for a 4th liner, is not going to bury us. Once the cap goes up it will look very pedestrian. Six years is not ideal but we have shown we are not afraid to use buyouts, and a buyout after 4/5 years is going to minimally crippling.

No. It will not look pedestrian. We're discussing trading for a 2C with a cap hit of $10m and our 1C is a FA after this coming season and will be seeking around $10m per himself. Buch will need a deal. As will Fox. This is about asset allocation. We just paid a 4th line winger what ascending players get on their bridge deals. In two years, he's making $5M - when we're going to have to give Kakko and Laf new deals.

Paying any 4th liner that kind of money is dumb. Any way you want to parse it.

is the only thing the Rangers care about, which is $3.6M. The structure is just the dollar allocation to the player. For cap purposes it's $3.6M. This is a perfectly reasonable price for Goodrow, a guy that again, was 4th in TOI of all TB forwards this cup run. He'll most likely be on the 3rd line, but will be more of a jack of all trades, playing the PK, closing out games, and getting a lot of the d-zone assignments. Hell, I can see him doing some of the dirty work on a Panarin line (Panarin is supposedly the one who wanted Blackwell on his line for that purpose).

The Rangers are clearly aware of the pending contracts they will be giving out, it's not a surprise. We're at $20M in cap space now, and anticipating an ADA buyout, we'll be at about $24M in space. Our big RFA's this season are Buch, Chytil, and Shesty (don't count Hajek as big). Ton of smoke around Strome and his $4.5M deal being shipped out, so that gives us closer to $28.5M in space. More than enough to re-sign all pending RFA's with money left over. Buch may or may not be here simply because of the glut of top 6-9 wingers we have. It's independent of Goodrow (I'd more point to Kreider and his deal on the reason for moving Buch).

There were plenty of teams supposedly willing to give him same length and $$$. The team is loaded w/skill. About time they paid for some grit.

given 1) the needs of the roster which remain unfixed and 2) the upcoming contracts needed for Zib, Fox, and Igor? They've got to make some upgrades with talent from outside the org, which will likely cost more than the talent shipped out. So, cap space figures to go fast especially if they do pull the trigger on Eichel and the like.

Interested to see where Drury drives this bus, this is a crucial offseason and his decision set needs to be on target.

I do think Chytil and Shesty get signed.

I'm of the mind that Buch and Strome are dealt in some capacity, and 15OA before tomorrow's draft. Brooks' tweet regarding Eichel's medicals this morning has me thinking that maybe Drury has a surprise in store for the 2C spot, and our interest might not be as intense as it was a few months ago. All just names from HF but Lindholm, Dvorak, Larkin have been mentioned by some posters, of course it's just a message board, but we could have a curveball.

Would be sad to see Buch go, as his game really developed over the past few years and he became one of the better 200 foot players. I point to Kreider's extension as the main causation for this, his deal and then winning the lottery and adding Laf (could never have guessed that when extending Kreider), really caused a jam with top 6-9 wingers.

In comment 15310556 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:

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I do think Chytil and Shesty get signed. I'm of the mind that Buch and Strome are dealt in some capacity, and 15OA before tomorrow's draft. Brooks' tweet regarding Eichel's medicals this morning has me thinking that maybe Drury has a surprise in store for the 2C spot, and our interest might not be as intense as it was a few months ago. All just names from HF but Lindholm, Dvorak, Larkin have been mentioned by some posters, of course it's just a message board, but we could have a curveball. Would be sad to see Buch go, as his game really developed over the past few years and he became one of the better 200 foot players. I point to Kreider's extension as the main causation for this, his deal and then winning the lottery and adding Laf (could never have guessed that when extending Kreider), really caused a jam with top 6-9 wingers.

I'd much rather part with Chytil, but not much chatter on him.
Agree 100% on Buch. Drury, return for him better damn well match up with his value and promise.
Question: is Kreider a top 6-9 forward? LULZ Tongue in cheek, but only by half because half his games he plays like a bottom 6. ):<

At this point MLITB, I am pretty much soured on Eichel, too much smoke and obscurity. And the shared agent stuff just adds to the flashing yellow lights.

But nothing could accomplish that asshe. Rangers need to not make any big moves, and yes Lundkvist is a player that will become a star. Write it down asshole, I said it before he ate in the NHL. But he has ayed 3 years of pro hockey, Kravtov played 1 year I'm the KHL, played good, my whole fucking point was not to trade them. But you had to open your stupid fucking mouth.

About Lundkvist to trade him either, I gave an opinion, and that opinion is don't make any stupid trades, trading Strome or Buchnevich is fine, we know enough about them to get fair value. OK idiot.