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FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 8:27 am
There's a massive time difference, people. Let's put results here instead of announcing who has won gold or who has won a game.

As we speak, the opening ceremonies are blah as usual
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Have to wonder if this current USWNT squad agrees with the tactics  
Rick in Dallas : 7/27/2021 3:31 pm : link
Employed by their coach Andonovski. It is so opposite of the mentality they have played for over 25 years.
RE: Have to wonder if this current USWNT squad agrees with the tactics  
BamaBlue : 7/27/2021 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15314337 Rick in Dallas said:
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Employed by their coach Andonovski. It is so opposite of the mentality they have played for over 25 years.


This is not the same team. The average age of this team is 30.8 years. This is the oldest USWNT team ever, and the oldest at this olympics.
I didnt get to see today's game  
Stu11 : 7/27/2021 4:01 pm : link
But the first 2 it seemed like he was toying with the lineup treating the games as tune-ups to keep the stars fresh for the elimination round
RE: RE: Have to wonder if this current USWNT squad agrees with the tactics  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/27/2021 4:13 pm : link
In comment 15314344 BamaBlue said:
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Employed by their coach Andonovski. It is so opposite of the mentality they have played for over 25 years.



This is not the same team. The average age of this team is 30.8 years. This is the oldest USWNT team ever, and the oldest at this olympics.


This is the same team, which is the problem, which is kind of a symptom of the bargaining agreement they've set up. It will be interesting in how they handle that in the future. The talent pool is still enough that they should dominate the world stage for another decade, but there's no room for young blood to get experience/tested/developed like you see on the men's side.
The US Women's  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/27/2021 4:37 pm : link
basketball team had a test against Nigeria, but ended up winning by 9.

The most impressive player for Nigeria? Promise Amukamara - younger sister of Prince.
RE: .  
Azul Grande : 7/27/2021 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15314130 pjcas18 said:
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The New York Times
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Breaking News: Simone Biles said she withdrew from the women’s gymnastics team final because she wasn’t in a good place mentally to compete after so much pressure to win. It is not clear whether she will compete in her individual events. https://nyti.ms/3iV9Ul6


It's so easy to watch these amazing athletes perform and forget what an all-encompassing effort it is, mentally and physically, non-stop for essentially an entire lifetime. In sports where you are competing against yourself essentially (I'm sure there is competitive strategy, but opponents can't really strategize to stop you in swimming/track/gymnastics the same way NFL teams can attack on defense) it must be unfathomably difficult to stay at the tippy top.

Something like this makes me really appreciate even more performances like Phelps' in Beijing or Biles in Rio.
the comment sections of various online reports  
UConn4523 : 7/27/2021 4:55 pm : link
gives you a nice glimpse of what the majority of people think athletes should do. Its pretty damn sad. If you aren't near death apparently its inexcusable.
it's pretty cool to see  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/27/2021 5:25 pm : link
how Djokovic seems to be the biggest star at the Olympics among all the athletes. I'm a guy who has rooted against him for a decade, and there are so many people like me who root for Federer/Nadal who have disrespected him over the years. The lack of media attention he receives in comparison to those two has also been notable.

But it seems like he is finally having his moment as "THE guy" and all his world-class athlete peers seem to be giving him a tremendous amount of respect at these games. The Golden Slam being within reach and his status as likely GOAT seems to have changed the narrative with him.

We'll see if he can get the Gold here but either way, I'm just happy for him that he's getting the kind of love/respect that he deserves after years of being the red-headed stepchild among the Big 3.

Still rooting against him at the USO.
RE: Sad news about Biles  
Matt M. : 7/27/2021 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15313962 Greg from LI said:
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I'm not particularly interested in gymnastics but it's sad when a legend can't go out on her own terms.
Who says she can't? There's still the all around and the 4 individual events.
World Class..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/27/2021 8:30 pm : link
athletes have to be both physically and mentally strong. I don't know what to make of the increasing number of athletes who are discussing mental health, but each person has the prerogative to not compete.

Choosing not to compete seems like it may come with side effects that probably can exacerbate the situation though.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2021 8:48 pm : link
Good for Simone. I'm so glad that mental health-in 2021-is no longer stigmatized.
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section125 : 7/27/2021 9:10 pm : link
In comment 15314593 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Good for Simone. I'm so glad that mental health-in 2021-is no longer stigmatized.


She is not used to making mistakes. It was probably devastating - unexpected and confusing. Maybe she refocus with a couple days off, and jumps back in, if the injury is not lingering. I hope she has the chance.
Disgraceful showing by the USWNT on the pitch  
trueblueinpw : 7/27/2021 9:36 pm : link
This coach is a gonna have a hard time getting back into the country if he can’t figure out how to get the best team in the world to play like the best team in the world. It’s been a horrible tourney for the ladies.

And wtf happened to Biles? It’s like the most fucked up Olympics.
I wish Kerry Collins had this option against the Ravens  
flapjack : 7/27/2021 9:44 pm : link
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She is not used to making mistakes. It was probably devastating - unexpected and confusing. Maybe she refocus with a couple days off, and jumps back in,
RE: Disgraceful showing by the USWNT on the pitch  
section125 : 7/27/2021 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15314619 trueblueinpw said:
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This coach is a gonna have a hard time getting back into the country if he can’t figure out how to get the best team in the world to play like the best team in the world. It’s been a horrible tourney for the ladies.

And wtf happened to Biles? It’s like the most fucked up Olympics.


They are people, not machines. USWNT, is an old machine, though.
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trueblueinpw : 7/27/2021 9:51 pm : link
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This coach is a gonna have a hard time getting back into the country if he can’t figure out how to get the best team in the world to play like the best team in the world. It’s been a horrible tourney for the ladies.

And wtf happened to Biles? It’s like the most fucked up Olympics.



They are people, not machines. USWNT, is an old machine, though.


The women are being out coached not outplayed. The team didn’t all of the sudden become pedestrian. And sure they’re old but, again, I don’t their poor performance is due to age.
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section125 : 7/27/2021 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15314633 trueblueinpw said:
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This coach is a gonna have a hard time getting back into the country if he can’t figure out how to get the best team in the world to play like the best team in the world. It’s been a horrible tourney for the ladies.

And wtf happened to Biles? It’s like the most fucked up Olympics.



They are people, not machines. USWNT, is an old machine, though.



The women are being out coached not outplayed. The team didn’t all of the sudden become pedestrian. And sure they’re old but, again, I don’t their poor performance is due to age.


Could be, I am not watching the Olympics.
RE: World Class..  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/27/2021 11:52 pm : link
In comment 15314584 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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athletes have to be both physically and mentally strong. I don't know what to make of the increasing number of athletes who are discussing mental health, but each person has the prerogative to not compete.

Choosing not to compete seems like it may come with side effects that probably can exacerbate the situation though.


There’s a lot of truth to this statement. I understand why athletes like Osaka and Biles are concerned about their standing in terms of their profession. I don’t want to go deeper than surface level with that one because I’m sure there is some deep shit there, especially internationally. But I wanted to see Simone Biles be the GOAT as she was hyped as. A nervous 24 year old isn’t what I expected when I read about the hype.

I know the hype on young kids these days is insane due to social media, but some people like a LeBron James (prob another era but insane hype) end up living up to that potential and shrugging away any pressure. Biles is actually better at what she does than LeBron is what he does, so it’s wild to see her still fail due to pressure.

Mental health is a real thing, 100%. I’ll never disagree with that fact. But it’s definitely a little annoying to see certain athletes claim that as their downfall when we’ve always known pressure was a real thing (Clutch exists).

All I can do is hope Simone is ready to go for the next one. Rooting for her.
My main point..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/28/2021 7:04 am : link
about the side effects is that if an athlete is struggling with self-doubt, putting a microscope on their desire to compete seems like it has a chance to spiral out of control, especially with the way social media is.

I also think there needs to be a better understanding of mental health. Things like this opens the door for people to not take the field even if they are physically able to and that will often give the appearance of a lack of desire.

I mean - hitting closer to home, how would a NFL fan react if their QB walked off the field in order to preserve mental health? Sam Darnold was caught on audio about seeing ghosts and it tore away at the idea he was mentally tough.

I just see this going badly in many cases. Partially because of mental health issues being still understood and also because criticism of exiting an event will be looked at as insensitive and bullying.
Gold Medal  
Big Al : 7/28/2021 9:23 am : link
in women’s 3 person basketball.
RE: Gold Medal  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/28/2021 9:26 am : link
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in women’s 3 person basketball.


I was surprised the men didn't field a 3x3 team
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Big Al : 7/28/2021 9:54 am : link
In comment 15314849 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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in women’s 3 person basketball.



I was surprised the men didn't field a 3x3 team
Latvia gold in men’s over Russia.
That was an unbelievable finish by Bobby Finke  
dpinzow : 7/28/2021 9:44 pm : link
in the 800 meter swim. He was fourth, a full body length behind three swimmers, and caught them all in the last 50 meters. What a swim
RE: That was an unbelievable finish by Bobby Finke  
Big Al : 7/28/2021 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15315817 dpinzow said:
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in the 800 meter swim. He was fourth, a full body length behind three swimmers, and caught them all in the last 50 meters. What a swim
That was unbelievable. He was out of it at 750.
He blew right past them too  
MookGiants : 7/28/2021 9:48 pm : link
wasn't all that close. Last 50 meters was bonkers
wasn't Finke  
MookGiants : 7/28/2021 9:50 pm : link
a big longshot to even medal too?
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dpinzow : 7/28/2021 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15315830 MookGiants said:
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a big longshot to even medal too?


Yeah, he wasn't expected to get on the podium, let alone win. He just made his two fastest swims at that distance in the semifinal heat and the final. Clutch
Caeleb Dressel wins gold in the 100 free  
dpinzow : 7/28/2021 10:41 pm : link
That was a VERY close race
RE: Caeleb Dressel wins gold in the 100 free  
Big Al : 7/28/2021 10:42 pm : link
In comment 15315924 dpinzow said:
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That was a VERY close race
He got a great start and held the lead throughout.
That was awesome  
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 10:43 pm : link
I really like Rowdy Gaines too. He's a genuine homer and I love it.
RE: RE: Caeleb Dressel wins gold in the 100 free  
dpinzow : 7/28/2021 10:44 pm : link
In comment 15315925 Big Al said:
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That was a VERY close race

He got a great start and held the lead throughout.


Just about held it. He won by 6 hundredths of a second. Great swim
Dressel is going for 7 gold medals  
dpinzow : 7/28/2021 10:46 pm : link
He's got two of the seven
That..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/28/2021 10:47 pm : link
was a hell of a swim!
RE: Dressel is going for 7 gold medals  
Big Al : 7/28/2021 11:02 pm : link
In comment 15315932 dpinzow said:
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He's got two of the seven
I know basically nothing about who is in what race until the race itself, but I assume he is in the 50 meters and has a great chance with that kind of skill in the start.
RE: He blew right past them too  
Del Shofner : 7/28/2021 11:06 pm : link
In comment 15315827 MookGiants said:
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wasn't all that close. Last 50 meters was bonkers


Finke's last 50 was incredible. And just the concept of 800 meters freestyle leaves me exhausted. That's a long way to race in a pool.
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section125 : 7/28/2021 11:10 pm : link
In comment 15315950 Del Shofner said:
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wasn't all that close. Last 50 meters was bonkers



Finke's last 50 was incredible. And just the concept of 800 meters freestyle leaves me exhausted. That's a long way to race in a pool.


Not sure I want to walk that far!
Katie Ledecky almost won that relay in the anchor leg  
dpinzow : 7/28/2021 11:53 pm : link
A little disappointed to lose to China, who nobody expected to win. Australia was the big favorite
Sunisa Lee (USA) just won the women's all around  
dpinzow : 7/29/2021 8:57 am : link
Congratulations! That gold medal stays in American hands
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section125 : 7/29/2021 8:59 am : link
In comment 15316076 dpinzow said:
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Congratulations! That gold medal stays in American hands


Great news. One champion retires, another is crowned.
RE: Sunisa Lee (USA) just won the women's all around  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/29/2021 8:59 am : link
In comment 15316076 dpinzow said:
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Congratulations! That gold medal stays in American hands


That's great. She's been the most consistent of all the gymnasts so far. I bet she'll win gold in the bars later in the week.
And NBC..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/29/2021 9:03 am : link
just royally pissed off my wife. They just reported Lee won as "Breaking News" on the Today show without giving any warning at all.
RE: RE: Sunisa Lee (USA) just won the women's all around  
dpinzow : 7/29/2021 9:11 am : link
In comment 15316078 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Congratulations! That gold medal stays in American hands



That's great. She's been the most consistent of all the gymnasts so far. I bet she'll win gold in the bars later in the week.


The Brazilian gymnast, Rebeca Andrade, was going to win but she stepped out of bounds twice on the floor and finished second
The women's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/29/2021 10:35 am : link
volleyball team won the first two sets vs. Turkey, but now are in a battle. Up 2 sets to 1, but trailing by 3 in the 4tf set and Turkey has the momentum
The..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/29/2021 11:04 am : link
volleyball team holds on and wins in 5 sets
USWNT defeats the Netherlands in penalties  
dpinzow : 7/30/2021 9:48 am : link
Game ended 2-2. The Dutch had a penalty in regular time about 10 minutes from the end but Alyssa Naeher saved it. Then she saved 2 penalties in the shootout
Women's soccer wins in PKs.  
rnargi : 7/30/2021 9:48 am : link
I hate PKs.
RE: Women's soccer wins in PKs.  
Stu11 : 7/30/2021 10:19 am : link
In comment 15317548 rnargi said:
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I hate PKs.

Excellent game. US was lucky to get out of there. Netherlands had the much betterof the play from half on. US got their requisite 4 goals wiped out due to offsides. When it goes to PKs the USWNT has a huge advantage. They just don't miss them.
USWNT very lucky to win on PK's  
Rick in Dallas : 7/30/2021 10:30 am : link
It's time for an infusion of younger players on this team. Age is definitely catching up with about 6 of their starters.
Ridiculous that 9 goals for the USWNT have been nullified by offsides. That is just plain awareness of where you are on the field.
Netherlands was the better team today.
RE: USWNT very lucky to win on PK's  
Stu11 : 7/30/2021 11:15 am : link
In comment 15317607 Rick in Dallas said:
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It's time for an infusion of younger players on this team. Age is definitely catching up with about 6 of their starters.
Ridiculous that 9 goals for the USWNT have been nullified by offsides. That is just plain awareness of where you are on the field.
Netherlands was the better team today.

Love Carli lloyd but She's cooked. No way she should be playing 50 minutes in an elimination rd game.
The goalie, Naeher, had quite an eventful match  
dpinzow : 7/30/2021 11:38 am : link
She gave up a soft goal when the US was leading 2-1. She then saved a penalty in the 80th minute, almost lost it again by doing a Jordan Pickford in stoppage time, then saved the two penalties in the shootout…

US was a perfect 4-4 on penalties, none of them could be saved
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