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Anakim : 7/23/2021 9:44 am
Mandy Bell
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The Cleveland Indians will become the Guardians.
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Anakim : 7/23/2021 9:46 am : link
I was really hoping  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 9:46 am : link
they would be the Cleveland Baseball Team
Guardians of what?  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/23/2021 9:49 am : link
They should have done something to reflect the R&R HoF. Cleveland Rockers or Cleveland Metal or Cleveland Stratocasters..
Everything about that is terrible  
allstarjim : 7/23/2021 9:49 am : link
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RE: Guardians of what?  
Anakim : 7/23/2021 9:49 am : link
In comment 15311070 DC Gmen Fan said:
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They should have done something to reflect the R&R HoF. Cleveland Rockers or Cleveland Metal or Cleveland Stratocasters..


Or Steamers


I guess Spiders were too scary?
RE: Guardians of what?  
allstarjim : 7/23/2021 9:50 am : link
In comment 15311070 DC Gmen Fan said:
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They should have done something to reflect the R&R HoF. Cleveland Rockers or Cleveland Metal or Cleveland Stratocasters..


Guardians of irrational sensitivities.
so they can't be the Indians  
I Love Clams Casino : 7/23/2021 9:53 am : link
even if they changed the cartoonish logo?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/23/2021 9:54 am : link
Lame.
and isn't this just gonna piss off  
I Love Clams Casino : 7/23/2021 9:55 am : link
parental guardians all over this country?
lol at Steamers  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 9:56 am : link
apparently they are the Guardians after the "famous "Guardians of Traffic" sculptures on the Hope Memorial Bridge." Apparently, it's not that famous outside Cleveland.
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Now that's an  
Bill in UT : 7/23/2021 9:57 am : link
awful name. My friends from Ohio must be pissed.
Should be the  
superspynyg : 7/23/2021 9:59 am : link
Cleveland Indigenous People
RE: lol at Steamers  
Mad Mike : 7/23/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15311084 KDavies said:
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apparently they are the Guardians after the "famous "Guardians of Traffic" sculptures on the Hope Memorial Bridge." Apparently, it's not that famous outside Cleveland. Link - ( New Window )

I was wondering what connection there was, thanks. Still, pretty weak choice. Obviously Anak hit it on the head with Steamers, but barring that, something to do with rock and roll seems like a no-brainer.
Really should  
terz22 : 7/23/2021 10:00 am : link
Of just went back to the Spiders
I was totally on board with Spiders  
Jints in Carolina : 7/23/2021 10:05 am : link
Guardians? GTFO.
ugh  
Victor in CT : 7/23/2021 10:06 am : link
I was thinking maybe the Americans.
RE: Should be the  
section125 : 7/23/2021 10:08 am : link
In comment 15311090 superspynyg said:
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Cleveland Indigenous People


Take away Chief Wahoo, and I think "Indians" was a good name. Or maybe make a licensing deal with one of the local nations - $1 mill contribution to that nation annually.
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christian : 7/23/2021 10:08 am : link
The statues the name is based off lend themselves to some really cool art deco branding.

I like that the name has significance, and isn't just a generic nickname.
Cleveland Rockers would make the most sense  
dpinzow : 7/23/2021 10:08 am : link
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there
Do they already have  
Pete in MD : 7/23/2021 10:13 am : link
Disney/Marvel sponsorship in-place?
I'd..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 10:14 am : link
prefer the Cleveland Head Bangers, but I'm sure they'd catch hell from those worried about concussions or self-harm....
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Victor in CT : 7/23/2021 10:16 am : link
In comment 15311097 section125 said:
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Cleveland Indigenous People



Take away Chief Wahoo, and I think "Indians" was a good name. Or maybe make a licensing deal with one of the local nations - $1 mill contribution to that nation annually.


Or as Hondo from the NY Post used to call them, the Native Americans
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Scooter185 : 7/23/2021 10:25 am : link
Should have gone 19th century retro and went back to being the Spiders
Cleveland Wokians  
weeg in the bronx : 7/23/2021 10:38 am : link
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Is this now  
JB_in_DC : 7/23/2021 10:41 am : link
the most boring team name in sports? Its like the default name that pops up in Team Creator mode in a video game. So generic.
RE: Is this now  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 10:42 am : link
In comment 15311141 JB_in_DC said:
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the most boring team name in sports? Its like the default name that pops up in Team Creator mode in a video game. So generic.


LOL. Perfect description.
Tribe?  
ImThatGuy : 7/23/2021 10:45 am : link
If they just got rid of that logo 5 years ago and changed the name to Tribe - couldn't this all have been avoided
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dlauster : 7/23/2021 10:52 am : link
In comment 15311097 section125 said:
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Take away Chief Wahoo, and I think "Indians" was a good name. Or maybe make a licensing deal with one of the local nations - $1 mill contribution to that nation annually.


The problem here is that the term "indians" is, and always has been, erroneous.

P.S. I do really like the new logo.....
I Guess These Guys Are Out Too  
HMunster : 7/23/2021 10:53 am : link
Aren't Cowboys known...  
bw in dc : 7/23/2021 10:54 am : link
for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...
RE: Cleveland Wokians  
dlauster : 7/23/2021 10:56 am : link
In comment 15311136 weeg in the bronx said:
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
RE: Aren't Cowboys known...  
Big Blue '56 : 7/23/2021 10:56 am : link
In comment 15311160 bw in dc said:
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for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...


They did, long ago. “America’s Team.”
RE: Aren't Cowboys known...  
Big Al : 7/23/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15311160 bw in dc said:
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for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...
The Dallas Drovers do not have that connotation.
RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
Greg from LI : 7/23/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15311163 dlauster said:
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This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.


You know that most actual American Indians don't remotely care about this, right?

BTW, most prefer the term American Indian to "Native American". Just so you know.
they were only called 'Indians' in the first place because  
Del Shofner : 7/23/2021 11:05 am : link
Columbus had no idea where he was.
RE: Aren't Cowboys known...  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 11:06 am : link
In comment 15311160 bw in dc said:
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for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...


I'm deciding between the Dallas Brokebacks or the Dallas Debbies
RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
rnargi : 7/23/2021 11:06 am : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.


No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
Same thing happened with the "Golden Knights"  
widmerseyebrow : 7/23/2021 11:08 am : link
Even the owner didn't get what he really wanted (Black Knights) so everyone lost and wound up settling for a name with an adjective in it, which is a great way to sound like a minor league team.

Fans often have the right answer but then owners step in and show everyone who's an idio...er boss.

1. Spiders
2. Rockers
3. Guardians
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How many native america named teams are left?  
US1 Giants : 7/23/2021 11:09 am : link
In professional sports; Blackhawks and Chiefs come to mind.
Pretty indifferent to this as  
bwitz : 7/23/2021 11:09 am : link
it really doesn’t effect me one way or another.

Having said that, why not go back to the Cleveland Spiders? At least there’s history there. Not to mention they could probably make a shit ton of money on retro merchandise along with the new stuff they’d be making. Seems like a missed opportunity.
RE: Cleveland Rockers would make the most sense  
j_rud : 7/23/2021 11:09 am : link
In comment 15311099 dpinzow said:
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the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there


Just shorten it to "Cleveland Rocks" lime the old Presidents of the USA song they used on the Drew Carey show. Original, unique, rolls off the tongue, plenty of opportunity to design a logo that incorporates music and stone. Really big whiff with "guardians".
how was Buckeyes 5th on that poll?  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 11:10 am : link
do those people want to name every team in Cleveland the Buckeyes?
This is a huge victory...  
BamaBlue : 7/23/2021 11:11 am : link
for all those people who search endlessly for things to be offended by. They can put this notch on their belt.
RE: How many native america named teams are left?  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 11:11 am : link
In comment 15311182 US1 Giants said:
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In professional sports; Blackhawks and Chiefs come to mind.


Braves, Warriors as well
RE: Cleveland Wokians  
wigs in nyc : 7/23/2021 11:23 am : link
In comment 15311136 weeg in the bronx said:
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Oh, man, nailed ‘em!!! Good one! ‘Woke!’ Ha!

Seriously, who gives an eff? Cleveland did a cost/benefit analysis and it pointed to a re-brand was in their best interest, end of story. Happy Friday.
It's fine  
bluepepper : 7/23/2021 11:29 am : link
in a few years most people will look back and laugh at how tenaciously people clung to the old name.
America 2021  
The_Boss : 7/23/2021 11:34 am : link
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dlauster : 7/23/2021 11:39 am : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.


We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Like that it changed ...  
DonQuixote : 7/23/2021 11:39 am : link
...but it's pretty bad. Spiders seemed like an obvious hit with great merch potential,
RE: It's fine  
BamaBlue : 7/23/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15311203 bluepepper said:
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in a few years most people will look back and laugh at how tenaciously people clung to the old name.


I would say this is not people clinging to the name. That's not the issue. The issue is the ridiculous pressure to change a name and capitulation for the sake of appeasement. Anyone genuinely offended by the name "Indians" needs to be ignored, not appeased.
RE: RE: How many native america named teams are left?  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/23/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15311190 KDavies said:
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Braves, Warriors as well


Golden State is on pretty firm ground. They did use native iconography in the past, but they stopped over 50 years ago. And term Warrior is not Native American per se.
Spider's not happy  
Pete in MD : 7/23/2021 11:44 am : link
RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
weeg in the bronx : 7/23/2021 11:44 am : link
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Oh, man, nailed ‘em!!! Good one! ‘Woke!’ Ha!

Seriously, who gives an eff? Cleveland did a cost/benefit analysis and it pointed to a re-brand was in their best interest, end of story. Happy Friday.


I disagree. They caved to the tiny very loud woke mob. And failed in doing so with the worst name you could possibly come up with.
after a couple of years  
sshin05 : 7/23/2021 11:44 am : link
everyone will be used to the guardians. Since its rather unique, most ppl will know its the cleveland baseball team.
RE: RE: It's fine  
Mad Mike : 7/23/2021 11:45 am : link
In comment 15311229 BamaBlue said:
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I would say this is not people clinging to the name. That's not the issue. The issue is the ridiculous pressure to change a name and capitulation for the sake of appeasement. Anyone genuinely offended by the name "Indians" needs to be ignored, not appeased.

Quality.
Cool  
McNally's_Nuts : 7/23/2021 11:46 am : link
good for them. It has no bearing on my life.
It's always precious  
PwndPapi : 7/23/2021 11:54 am : link
to see folks whine about a private company choose to re-brand and then claim anyone who might have been offended ought to be ignored.
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rnargi : 7/23/2021 11:55 am : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?


Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
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dlauster : 7/23/2021 12:03 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?



Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.


Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.
I think the name change  
Crazed Dogs : 7/23/2021 12:07 pm : link
is just ridiculous.....nuff said....
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rnargi : 7/23/2021 12:08 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?



Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.



Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.


Are you really "thinking"? As long as you continue to accept division and separatism,for any reason, you'll have division and separatism.
I think the name change  
Crazed Dogs : 7/23/2021 12:08 pm : link
is just ridiculous.....nuff said....
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Mad Mike : 7/23/2021 12:10 pm : link
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Are you really "thinking"? As long as you continue to accept division and separatism,for any reason, you'll have division and separatism.

I mean. c'mon now. Plenty of people think the name changes are unnecessary, and it's not hard to understand why. But absurd comments like this really make you look silly.
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Big Al : 7/23/2021 12:14 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?



Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.



Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.
Unfortunately today the direction is to call a radically different view un-American and silence it.
RE: It's always precious  
BamaBlue : 7/23/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15311250 PwndPapi said:
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to see folks whine about a private company choose to re-brand and then claim anyone who might have been offended ought to be ignored.


It precious to see those 'smarter than everyone else' people who defend changing a name for no other reason than faux indignity. Like petulant children, they beg to be ignored.
I would've preferred "Spiders"  
NYerInMA : 7/23/2021 12:28 pm : link
But "Guardians" isn't the worst, I guess. We'll get used to it.
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Regular Coffee : 7/23/2021 12:34 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?


Why "not now"? Because ten pajama boys on Twitter said so? The racial divisiveness celebrated by you and others is one of the top problems this country has.
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Joey from GlenCove : 7/23/2021 12:36 pm : link
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Oh, man, nailed ‘em!!! Good one! ‘Woke!’ Ha!

Seriously, who gives an eff? Cleveland did a cost/benefit analysis and it pointed to a re-brand was in their best interest, end of story. Happy Friday.



I disagree. They caved to the tiny very loud woke mob. And failed in doing so with the worst name you could possibly come up with.


The pelicans and wizards would like to have a word with you
Apparently, they  
Pete in MD : 7/23/2021 12:38 pm : link
were pissed that Rumble Ponies was already taken.
Absolutely should have gone with the  
BlueHurricane : 7/23/2021 12:38 pm : link
Cleveland Steamers
If we finally take all the Indian names off everything ...  
Csonka : 7/23/2021 12:41 pm : link
not only will we stop offending woke white people but we'll also pretty much never talk again about American Indians outside of the classroom. Maybe that's a step towards erasing our guilty conscience ... to just forget about them.
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Scooter185 : 7/23/2021 12:51 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?



Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.


Indian is actually a pejorative term, often used to separate if not dehumanize Natives. Yes they use the term themselves, but I guarantee they'd all rather just be called by their tribal name.

Aa far as why would an entity purposefully name themselves that, well in the early 1900s it wasn't seen as derogatory, but feelings have changed in the last 100+ years. There's also been protests about it since the 70s, it's not like this is a contemporary issue to "woke culture" there's just enough impetus now to actually do something about it

Will the name change materially affect natives? No probability not. There's a lot of issues many tribes face, especially so in this era of covid, but it's a step in denormalizing stereotypes, derogatory names, and seeing natives as something on par with amimals and sock colors.
RE: It's fine  
Route 9 : 7/23/2021 1:20 pm : link
In comment 15311203 bluepepper said:
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in a few years most people will look back and laugh at how tenaciously people clung to the old name.


No in a few years I'll still be laughing at just how awful the new (then current) name is.
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Jints in Carolina : 7/23/2021 1:25 pm : link
Has there ever been an attempt at an explanation  
BlackLight : 7/23/2021 1:32 pm : link
as to why it's taken so long for Washington to rename their team? It took Cleveland less than three months.
RE: RE: It's always precious  
PwndPapi : 7/23/2021 1:35 pm : link
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to see folks whine about a private company choose to re-brand and then claim anyone who might have been offended ought to be ignored.



It precious to see those 'smarter than everyone else' people who defend changing a name for no other reason than faux indignity. Like petulant children, they beg to be ignored.


That's...great. Be sure to make some signs. Big signs.
Proffesional sports  
Beef Wellington : 7/23/2021 1:45 pm : link
continues to wither on the vine as all these asinine changes are made to please every minority/gender under the sun. Is it ok to ask who Rocky Colavito played for?
I'm trying..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 1:48 pm : link
to think of a team that got it right with a name change.

About the only one I can think of is Syracuse, who went from the Saltine Warriors to the Orange. At least they got an iconic mascot out of it.

I guess the Rays, Stars and Ducks losing the Devil, North and Mighty part isn't too bad either
RE: I'm trying..  
PwndPapi : 7/23/2021 1:51 pm : link
In comment 15311394 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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to think of a team that got it right with a name change.

About the only one I can think of is Syracuse, who went from the Saltine Warriors to the Orange. At least they got an iconic mascot out of it.

I guess the Rays, Stars and Ducks losing the Devil, North and Mighty part isn't too bad either


I kind of preferred Mighty Ducks. I also preferred North Stars.

I think Supersonics got it right moving to Thunder (though I do miss the Supersonics colors and court paint. I also think Red Storm works better than Redmen. Not great, but better.

Worst, imho, is Bobcats.
I'm glad..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 2:00 pm : link
the Hornets went back. The Bobcats would be like Washington naming themselves the Daniel-sans.
RE: I'm glad..  
Jints in Carolina : 7/23/2021 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15311403 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the Hornets went back. The Bobcats would be like Washington naming themselves the Daniel-sans.


Yep. The Bobcats were the worst.
RE: I'm glad..  
PwndPapi : 7/23/2021 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15311403 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the Hornets went back. The Bobcats would be like Washington naming themselves the Daniel-sans.


Or NYFG rebranding as the NY Marauders. Or Maracas. Some slick branding opportunities there. Mariaci band starts to play after each TD.
RE: RE: I'm glad..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 2:08 pm : link
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the Hornets went back. The Bobcats would be like Washington naming themselves the Daniel-sans.



Yep. The Bobcats were the worst.


I remember when they first named it the Bobcats, they talked about how plentiful the animals are in the area. Maybe if you go up to the mountains 3 hours away. Why not just call then the Beaches then - just as close.

It was Bob Johnson being an egomaniac from Day 1 and nobody called him on it from a media standpoint.
RE: I'm trying..  
Greg from LI : 7/23/2021 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15311394 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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to think of a team that got it right with a name change.


Seattle Pilots to Milwaukee Brewers was a good one, as was Washington Senators to Texas Rangers.
RE: RE: I'm trying..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15311418 Greg from LI said:
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to think of a team that got it right with a name change.



Seattle Pilots to Milwaukee Brewers was a good one, as was Washington Senators to Texas Rangers.


I was thinking more along teh lines of changes while staying in a location. I think when teams move, they should change the name.
RE: Has there ever been an attempt at an explanation  
Victor in CT : 7/23/2021 2:17 pm : link
In comment 15311371 BlackLight said:
[quote] as to why it's taken so long for Washington to rename their team? It took Cleveland less than three months.

and we've learned why more time is necessary LOL
RE: RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
KDubbs : 7/23/2021 2:18 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.


oh christ....these kinds.
What an awful awful awful choice.  
Red Dog : 7/23/2021 2:30 pm : link
RIP major league baseball in Cleveland.
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Route 9 : 7/23/2021 2:38 pm : link
And all is right in the world .... now that is tackled.
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PwndPapi : 7/23/2021 2:41 pm : link
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No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.


Man are we all fortunate to have this guy around. I mean, up until now, I'd have to wake up, decide on what I'm having for breakfast, and then make a shitload of choices at work.

Now we can simply wait for margin to send his morning memorandum outlining what we're to think and care about on that particular day. Fuckin' cake.
RE: they were only called 'Indians' in the first place because  
Matt M. : 7/23/2021 2:43 pm : link
In comment 15311176 Del Shofner said:
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Columbus had no idea where he was.
Isn't that how most people end up in Cleveland?
Ever been to Cleveland?  
BigBluesman : 7/23/2021 2:43 pm : link
The Guardians of Transportation! C'mon it's not bad. The left breast of their jerseys can still read "dians" too!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
Beef Wellington : 7/23/2021 2:43 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



oh christ....these kinds.



And your kind are destroying a great nation. Please expire.
Count me in the minority. I like the name  
Matt M. : 7/23/2021 2:45 pm : link
It has significance to the city, those statues are cool and often featured when watching anything about Cleveland or based in Cleveland, I don't mind the logo or the font for the name. But, who cares if you or I like it? The target is people of Cleveland.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
KDubbs : 7/23/2021 2:49 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



oh christ....these kinds.




And your kind are destroying a great nation. Please expire.


my kind? you dont even know me or what i think. you idiots are whining over a sports teams name change just to fucking argue over something of little consequence. yea a team name is dividing the country. if you dont like my views youre un-American and leave my country! come down from that pedestal and kindly go fuck yourself
And the video Tom Hanks narrated  
Matt M. : 7/23/2021 2:57 pm : link
isn't bad either.
the  
RasputinPrime : 7/23/2021 3:14 pm : link
Los Angeles Guardians of Cleveland.

Yeah that's a fail.
would have been much better  
RasputinPrime : 7/23/2021 3:18 pm : link


But in the end, it's their franchise. Most sports franchise names are pretty crappy.
I don’t understand why people get up in arms  
bhill410 : 7/23/2021 3:35 pm : link
Of the changing of these names. I think we can all agree that native Americans got a pretty raw deal, if this upsets just one of them let’s try to be compassionate. I am the farthest thing from woke but to quote Chris rock “ain’t no one had it as hard as the Native American”.
calling Native Americans Indians  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/23/2021 3:58 pm : link
has always been stupid as fuck. Also, their old logo was a an embarrassment. It's good that they are distancing themselves from it.
I don't even take the bait  
RasputinPrime : 7/23/2021 3:59 pm : link
business decisions are made by the people running their company. If you don't like it, vote with your wallet.

.  
Bill2 : 7/23/2021 4:00 pm : link
The area in and near Cleveland did stand "Guard" for the colonists in Ohio, Detroit, Western New York and Pennsylvania from Pontiacs War, the French and Indian Wars, the Revolution, the War of 1812 and a launch point in the "wars" to safeguard from the Erie Canal to Chicago.

The Hurons, the Delaware, the French and the Brits all were cleared out from 1730 to 1830.

Cleveland guarded the Great Lakes. Oliver Hazard Perry's fleet home Port was Cleveland in our attempt to drive the Brits out of the Great Lakes and the St Lawrence River Valley.

Cleveland was a Guardian for the new Republic. We all know how vital the Great Lakes,Ohio River and Mississippi were to the growth of our nation. During that 130 year period we fought several entrenched forces and we did it from the area from the Sandusky River to Youngstown.

So yeah...as a through back name...the "Guardians"does begin to re claims Clevelands original role in the formation of the USA.

Imo
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Bill2 : 7/23/2021 4:02 pm : link
throw back to earlier times.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
bwitz : 7/23/2021 4:03 pm : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



oh christ....these kinds.




And your kind are destroying a great nation. Please expire.


Why don’t you just come out and say the racist shit you want to say instead of being such a fucking coward.
RE: calling Native Americans Indians  
Route 9 : 7/23/2021 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15311568 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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has always been stupid as fuck. Also, their old logo was a an embarrassment. It's good that they are distancing themselves from it.


I thought it was cool. Looked like a guy you don't want to screw around with.
the further they distance themselves from this...  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/23/2021 4:08 pm : link


The better.
......  
Route 9 : 7/23/2021 4:11 pm : link
The Jews guy lol
Also...  
Route 9 : 7/23/2021 4:12 pm : link
That's racist against the whites because he's wearing glasses. That depcits the white man as one who doesn't have a vision.
RE: I don’t understand why people get up in arms  
Scooter185 : 7/23/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15311545 bhill410 said:
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Of the changing of these names. I think we can all agree that native Americans got a pretty raw deal, if this upsets just one of them let’s try to be compassionate. I am the farthest thing from woke but to quote Chris rock “ain’t no one had it as hard as the Native American”.


It bucks the status quo where casual racism against natives is ok. Those who are upset (dare I say triggered) by the change are of the mindset "this is the way it's always been, so this how it always should be." When something challenges that and pushes them out of their comfort zone, and change is an uncomfortable thing, they lash out.
RE: RE: I don’t understand why people get up in arms  
Lines of Scrimmage : 7/23/2021 4:35 pm : link
In comment 15311615 Scooter185 said:
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Of the changing of these names. I think we can all agree that native Americans got a pretty raw deal, if this upsets just one of them let’s try to be compassionate. I am the farthest thing from woke but to quote Chris rock “ain’t no one had it as hard as the Native American”.



It bucks the status quo where casual racism against natives is ok. Those who are upset (dare I say triggered) by the change are of the mindset "this is the way it's always been, so this how it always should be." When something challenges that and pushes them out of their comfort zone, and change is an uncomfortable thing, they lash out.


Both good points. I am fine with some of the name changes. I will be upset if they change the NY Giants because it offends smaller people.
I’m fine with dumping “Indians”  
GruningsOnTheHill : 7/23/2021 5:01 pm : link
but Guardians is just stupid.
And why, exactly, is this dumb?  
Matt M. : 7/23/2021 5:16 pm : link
I imagine they did research in Cleveland and perhaps fan surveys. This is a name that actually has meaning to the people of Cleveland and is rooted to the history of the city. How is that less stupid than naming a team after a random animal that really has nothing to do with the region?
When do the NJ Devils or California Angels change?  
MartyNJ1969 : 7/23/2021 5:41 pm : link
Many groups find both those names offensive.
RE: When do the NJ Devils or California Angels change?  
KDubbs : 7/23/2021 6:00 pm : link
In comment 15311687 MartyNJ1969 said:
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Many groups find both those names offensive.


probably because they are fake characters from a fictional book?
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Route 9 : 7/23/2021 6:03 pm : link
Jersey Devil aint fake, yo.

Saw him crawling around Smithville in 2007.
RE: Cleveland Rockers would make the most sense  
santacruzom : 7/23/2021 6:12 pm : link
In comment 15311099 dpinzow said:
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the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there


Yeah but I bet the logo submissions for that name were all just God-awful, so they had to pull the plug.
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Route 9 : 7/23/2021 6:33 pm : link
Gonna go listen to the Drew Carey theme video now lol
RE: When do the NJ Devils or California Angels change?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/23/2021 7:44 pm : link
In comment 15311687 MartyNJ1969 said:
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Many groups find both those names offensive.


WTF?
RE: RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
christian : 7/23/2021 8:47 pm : link
In comment 15311178 rnargi said:
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.

No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.


Amen! There is nothing, and I mean nothing more unifying than believing those who don’t agree with you are useful idiots.

You’re a modern day Abe Lincoln.
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Bill L : 7/23/2021 8:52 pm : link
In comment 15311573 Bill2 said:
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The area in and near Cleveland did stand "Guard" for the colonists in Ohio, Detroit, Western New York and Pennsylvania from Pontiacs War, the French and Indian Wars, the Revolution, the War of 1812 and a launch point in the "wars" to safeguard from the Erie Canal to Chicago.

The Hurons, the Delaware, the French and the Brits all were cleared out from 1730 to 1830.

Cleveland guarded the Great Lakes. Oliver Hazard Perry's fleet home Port was Cleveland in our attempt to drive the Brits out of the Great Lakes and the St Lawrence River Valley.

Cleveland was a Guardian for the new Republic. We all know how vital the Great Lakes,Ohio River and Mississippi were to the growth of our nation. During that 130 year period we fought several entrenched forces and we did it from the area from the Sandusky River to Youngstown.

So yeah...as a through back name...the "Guardians"does begin to re claims Clevelands original role in the formation of the USA.

Imo


So, in part they’re switching sides? From the Indians to the protectors from the Indians?
RE: the further they distance themselves from this...  
Bill L : 7/23/2021 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15311594 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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The better.

The one thing to take from that is that we are all one with our dentistry
I still come back to my steadfast position  
Bill L : 7/23/2021 8:55 pm : link
That mascots, and logos and silly icon names are just plain childish.

They should sell the rights to their names and logos to corporations and use it to raise additional revenue. Like they do with stadium names.

Or like we did in Little League.
RE: RE: Cleveland Rockers would make the most sense  
montanagiant : 7/23/2021 9:02 pm : link
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the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there



Just shorten it to "Cleveland Rocks" lime the old Presidents of the USA song they used on the Drew Carey show. Original, unique, rolls off the tongue, plenty of opportunity to design a logo that incorporates music and stone. Really big whiff with "guardians".

Yeah, I agree. Rockers would have been the best choice
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Bill2 : 7/23/2021 9:04 pm : link
In fairness, most native American alliances of that period were paid for by the French or the Brits.

Also in fairness, the post 1812 wars against Indian tribes in Ohio, Indiana and Illinois ( much less Tennessee and Kentucky) were vicious.

Just settling Indiana involved breaking over 39 different treaties by bloodshed before it was accepted for statehood.

Both Harrisons, Mad Anthony Wayne, Van Buren, Polk, Tyler and Andrew Jackson all were front line leaders or treacherous in their dealings on the frontier in the Ohio and upper Midwest
....  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/23/2021 9:05 pm : link
Total aside, but have an uncle who lives in Solon, OH, a suburb of Cleveland; I've been to Cleveland probably 10 plus times in my life. It's a great city, despite the perception of it being a dump.
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Bill L : 7/23/2021 9:08 pm : link
In comment 15311861 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Total aside, but have an uncle who lives in Solon, OH, a suburb of Cleveland; I've been to Cleveland probably 10 plus times in my life. It's a great city, despite the perception of it being a dump.
about 30 years ago I interviewed for a job in Cleveland. Their selling point was “the river has caught on fire in quite some time”.
Has not  
Bill L : 7/23/2021 9:08 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/23/2021 9:12 pm : link
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Total aside, but have an uncle who lives in Solon, OH, a suburb of Cleveland; I've been to Cleveland probably 10 plus times in my life. It's a great city, despite the perception of it being a dump.

about 30 years ago I interviewed for a job in Cleveland. Their selling point was “the river has caught on fire in quite some time”.


Bill, I believe that was the Cuyahoga. The late Indians also had the infamous $.10 beer night. To quote the late Tim Russert, 'I came with $2. You do the math.' Haha.
RE: RE: When do the NJ Devils or California Angels change?  
BillKo : 7/23/2021 11:23 pm : link
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Many groups find both those names offensive.



probably because they are fake characters from a fictional book?


Now that was quite funny, I have to admit :)
RE: RE: I'm trying..  
aquidneck : 7/24/2021 1:17 am : link
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to think of a team that got it right with a name change.



Seattle Pilots to Milwaukee Brewers was a good one, as was Washington Senators to Texas Rangers.


The Houston Colt 45s to the Houston Astros was a good switch.
RE: Aren't Cowboys known...  
montanagiant : 7/24/2021 1:44 am : link
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for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...

No, they're known for working cattle, thus the name COWboys
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
montanagiant : 7/24/2021 1:54 am : link
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.



oh christ....these kinds.




And your kind are destroying a great nation. Please expire.

Are you serious? A discussion about a sports team's name change triggers you so bad you want someone to "expire"?

WTF is wrong with you?
RE: When do the NJ Devils or California Angels change?  
montanagiant : 7/24/2021 1:57 am : link
In comment 15311687 MartyNJ1969 said:
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Many groups find both those names offensive.

What groups are those?
RE: RE: RE: I'm trying..  
nochance : 7/24/2021 10:36 am : link
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to think of a team that got it right with a name change.



Seattle Pilots to Milwaukee Brewers was a good one, as was Washington Senators to Texas Rangers.



The Houston Colt 45s to the Houston Astros was a good switch.


Houston changed their team name Colt 45's to the astros because of a copyright infringment with the beer company
......  
Route 9 : 7/24/2021 12:43 pm : link
So that's that ... right? Redskins done. Indians done. Carl Nassib and Mr. Potato Head are openly gay.

Now everybody is satisfied and we can all be at ease. Progress is being made.
RE: RE: When do the NJ Devils or California Angels change?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/24/2021 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15312041 montanagiant said:
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Many groups find both those names offensive.


What groups are those?


No clue. Also, it's the Los Angeles Angels. The Angels haven't been the 'California Angels' since like the first term of the Clinton administration.
RE: When do the NJ Devils or California Angels change?  
Pete in MD : 7/24/2021 1:52 pm : link
In comment 15311687 MartyNJ1969 said:
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Many groups find both those names offensive.

Didn't this pretty much already happen with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays?
RE: RE: RE: When do the NJ Devils or California Angels change?  
Bill L : 7/24/2021 2:44 pm : link
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What groups are those?



No clue. Also, it's the Los Angeles Angels. The Angels haven't been the 'California Angels' since like the first term of the Clinton administration.

It’s not Anaheim?
I guess not  
Bill L : 7/24/2021 2:45 pm : link
I really am out of it
RE: I guess not  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/24/2021 2:50 pm : link
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I really am out of it


Was Anaheim when they won it all in 02. Then they did the stupid Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim thing before just going to Los Angeles Angels, despite LA & Anaheim being nowhere near one another.
On the one hand, I think the new name is pretty silly.  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 7/24/2021 4:04 pm : link
On the other hand, there are two MLB teams named after socks.
RE: On the one hand, I think the new name is pretty silly.  
Pete in MD : 7/24/2021 4:57 pm : link
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On the other hand, there are two MLB teams named after socks.

Haha, not to mention the one team named after female horses and the other honoring men of the cloth.
RE: On the one hand, I think the new name is pretty silly.  
Scooter185 : 7/24/2021 5:21 pm : link
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On the other hand, there are two MLB teams named after socks.


Three: Red Sox, White Sox, and Reds (shortened from Red Stockings)

Also the Cardinals were named after the color, because a fan wrote the owner in the 1880s saying how lovely the shade of cardinal on the uniforms was.

STL had the Browns until they moved to Baltimore
RE: On the one hand, I think the new name is pretty silly.  
Scooter185 : 7/24/2021 5:21 pm : link
In comment 15312313 Gary from The East End said:
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On the other hand, there are two MLB teams named after socks.


Three: Red Sox, White Sox, and Reds (shortened from Red Stockings)

Also the Cardinals were named after the color, because a fan wrote the owner in the 1880s saying how lovely the shade of cardinal on the uniforms was.

STL had the Browns until they moved to Baltimore
I love those statues  
jpkmets : 7/24/2021 5:54 pm : link
And I think it’s a fine new name. Kinda lays out syllable-wise like Indians and is something local so I’m for it. Changing team teams always feels odd for a few months, but it’s settles in soon enough. Better than trading the Bullets for the Wiz at any rate!
One question I’ve wondered  
jpkmets : 7/24/2021 5:56 pm : link
would a sport from another franchise in another sport have any ability to block another team in a different sport from using a name? Like would GSW have to agree to it for a baseball team to call themselves the Warriors? Just no idea how it’s works.
RE: I love those statues  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/24/2021 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15312384 jpkmets said:
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And I think it’s a fine new name. Kinda lays out syllable-wise like Indians and is something local so I’m for it. Changing team teams always feels odd for a few months, but it’s settles in soon enough. Better than trading the Bullets for the Wiz at any rate!


I still occasionally slip up and call them the Bullets. Same with Oilers & Texans.
In terms of the Rocks or Rockers as potential choices  
JoeMoney19 : 7/24/2021 6:59 pm : link
which I agree would have been cool in theory, they probably didn't work for Colorado reasons.

I agree that the Spiders would have been the best choice and that the Guardians is pretty corny, but whatever.
Cleveland  
jacob12 : 7/24/2021 9:21 pm : link
Cleveland is the poorest big city in the country.
RE: Cleveland  
Bricktop : 7/24/2021 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15312488 jacob12 said:
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Cleveland is the poorest big city in the country.


False. It's Detroit and it's not close.
 
christian : 7/24/2021 10:02 pm : link
A lot of the data on population below the poverty line over the last 18 months is very skewed, but the Census Bureau did report in 2020 Cleveland had the highest percentage.

There’s also an argument that Cleveland, outside of the top 50, isn’t a big city.

Hmmm  
Beer Man : 7/25/2021 9:23 am : link
Replaced the "In" in their name with "Guar", how clever. Does this also mean Chief Wahoo will be replaced with this guy
all things considered, I think they did a very good job with the name  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/25/2021 9:46 am : link
- They picked a name that has a tie to the city's history (the Guardians of Traffic statues)

- The name has the same ending "-ians" and they are using a similar font so that the uniform will look similar.

- The "wings" off the G Logo are similar to the wings off the helmet of one of the Guardian statues

- the G Logo look like two fingers gripping a baseball.
the majority of sports teams names  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/25/2021 9:54 am : link
are stupid. Eventually it's just what they are called and no really thinks about it.

Are there a lot of trolleys in Los Angeles being dodged? How's that Jazz out in Salt Lake City? GOtta watch out for those Tigers down on 8 Mile. Angels? Giants? Jets? Heat, Magic, Red/White Sox, Reds, Wizards, Packers, Cardinals, etc.

Our country has a history of racist imagery against Native Americans, blacks, Asians, and many other ethnicities. The Indians got rid of Chief Wahoo and then decided to get rid of the name altogether.
RE: Hmmm  
Bill L : 7/25/2021 1:38 pm : link
In comment 15312580 Beer Man said:
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Replaced the "In" in their name with "Guar", how clever. Does this also mean Chief Wahoo will be replaced with this guy

On a different site I visit they had the same sort of comment. But, they also suggested that on bat day, the bats the give out were Groot shaped which might be cool.
So, can we watch MAJOR LEAGUE ever again?  
Optimus-NY : 7/26/2021 3:52 pm : link
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So, can we watch MAJOR LEAGUE ever again?  
Optimus-NY : 7/26/2021 3:52 pm : link
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RE: So, can we watch MAJOR LEAGUE ever again?  
Route 9 : 7/26/2021 5:59 pm : link
In comment 15313556 Optimus-NY said:
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I'm pretty sure it's available to watch on Tubi right now.
RE: So, can we watch MAJOR LEAGUE ever again?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/26/2021 6:11 pm : link
In comment 15313556 Optimus-NY said:
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'This guy here is dead'
'Cross him off then.'
RE: RE: On the one hand, I think the new name is pretty silly.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/26/2021 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15312368 Scooter185 said:
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In comment 15312313 Gary from The East End said:


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On the other hand, there are two MLB teams named after socks.



Three: Red Sox, White Sox, and Reds (shortened from Red Stockings)

Also the Cardinals were named after the color, because a fan wrote the owner in the 1880s saying how lovely the shade of cardinal on the uniforms was.

STL had the Browns until they moved to Baltimore


Yep. And the Browns were named after the original team that was the Brown Stockings
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