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NFT: MLB's Cleveland Indians to become Cleveland Guardians

Anakim : 7/23/2021 9:44 am
Mandy Bell
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The Cleveland Indians will become the Guardians.
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Anakim : 7/23/2021 9:46 am : link
I was really hoping  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 9:46 am : link
they would be the Cleveland Baseball Team
Guardians of what?  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/23/2021 9:49 am : link
They should have done something to reflect the R&R HoF. Cleveland Rockers or Cleveland Metal or Cleveland Stratocasters..
Everything about that is terrible  
allstarjim : 7/23/2021 9:49 am : link
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RE: Guardians of what?  
Anakim : 7/23/2021 9:49 am : link
In comment 15311070 DC Gmen Fan said:
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They should have done something to reflect the R&R HoF. Cleveland Rockers or Cleveland Metal or Cleveland Stratocasters..


Or Steamers


I guess Spiders were too scary?
RE: Guardians of what?  
allstarjim : 7/23/2021 9:50 am : link
In comment 15311070 DC Gmen Fan said:
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They should have done something to reflect the R&R HoF. Cleveland Rockers or Cleveland Metal or Cleveland Stratocasters..


Guardians of irrational sensitivities.
so they can't be the Indians  
I Love Clams Casino : 7/23/2021 9:53 am : link
even if they changed the cartoonish logo?
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/23/2021 9:54 am : link
Lame.
and isn't this just gonna piss off  
I Love Clams Casino : 7/23/2021 9:55 am : link
parental guardians all over this country?
lol at Steamers  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 9:56 am : link
apparently they are the Guardians after the "famous "Guardians of Traffic" sculptures on the Hope Memorial Bridge." Apparently, it's not that famous outside Cleveland.
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Now that's an  
Bill in UT : 7/23/2021 9:57 am : link
awful name. My friends from Ohio must be pissed.
Should be the  
superspynyg : 7/23/2021 9:59 am : link
Cleveland Indigenous People
RE: lol at Steamers  
Mad Mike : 7/23/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15311084 KDavies said:
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apparently they are the Guardians after the "famous "Guardians of Traffic" sculptures on the Hope Memorial Bridge." Apparently, it's not that famous outside Cleveland. Link - ( New Window )

I was wondering what connection there was, thanks. Still, pretty weak choice. Obviously Anak hit it on the head with Steamers, but barring that, something to do with rock and roll seems like a no-brainer.
Really should  
terz22 : 7/23/2021 10:00 am : link
Of just went back to the Spiders
I was totally on board with Spiders  
Jints in Carolina : 7/23/2021 10:05 am : link
Guardians? GTFO.
ugh  
Victor in CT : 7/23/2021 10:06 am : link
I was thinking maybe the Americans.
RE: Should be the  
section125 : 7/23/2021 10:08 am : link
In comment 15311090 superspynyg said:
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Cleveland Indigenous People


Take away Chief Wahoo, and I think "Indians" was a good name. Or maybe make a licensing deal with one of the local nations - $1 mill contribution to that nation annually.
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christian : 7/23/2021 10:08 am : link
The statues the name is based off lend themselves to some really cool art deco branding.

I like that the name has significance, and isn't just a generic nickname.
Cleveland Rockers would make the most sense  
dpinzow : 7/23/2021 10:08 am : link
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there
Do they already have  
Pete in MD : 7/23/2021 10:13 am : link
Disney/Marvel sponsorship in-place?
I'd..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 10:14 am : link
prefer the Cleveland Head Bangers, but I'm sure they'd catch hell from those worried about concussions or self-harm....
RE: RE: Should be the  
Victor in CT : 7/23/2021 10:16 am : link
In comment 15311097 section125 said:
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In comment 15311090 superspynyg said:


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Cleveland Indigenous People



Take away Chief Wahoo, and I think "Indians" was a good name. Or maybe make a licensing deal with one of the local nations - $1 mill contribution to that nation annually.


Or as Hondo from the NY Post used to call them, the Native Americans
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Scooter185 : 7/23/2021 10:25 am : link
Should have gone 19th century retro and went back to being the Spiders
Cleveland Wokians  
weeg in the bronx : 7/23/2021 10:38 am : link
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Is this now  
JB_in_DC : 7/23/2021 10:41 am : link
the most boring team name in sports? Its like the default name that pops up in Team Creator mode in a video game. So generic.
RE: Is this now  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/23/2021 10:42 am : link
In comment 15311141 JB_in_DC said:
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the most boring team name in sports? Its like the default name that pops up in Team Creator mode in a video game. So generic.


LOL. Perfect description.
Tribe?  
ImThatGuy : 7/23/2021 10:45 am : link
If they just got rid of that logo 5 years ago and changed the name to Tribe - couldn't this all have been avoided
RE: RE: Should be the  
dlauster : 7/23/2021 10:52 am : link
In comment 15311097 section125 said:
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In comment 15311090 superspynyg said:


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Cleveland Indigenous People



Take away Chief Wahoo, and I think "Indians" was a good name. Or maybe make a licensing deal with one of the local nations - $1 mill contribution to that nation annually.


The problem here is that the term "indians" is, and always has been, erroneous.

P.S. I do really like the new logo.....
I Guess These Guys Are Out Too  
HMunster : 7/23/2021 10:53 am : link
Aren't Cowboys known...  
bw in dc : 7/23/2021 10:54 am : link
for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...
RE: Cleveland Wokians  
dlauster : 7/23/2021 10:56 am : link
In comment 15311136 weeg in the bronx said:
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
RE: Aren't Cowboys known...  
Big Blue '56 : 7/23/2021 10:56 am : link
In comment 15311160 bw in dc said:
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for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...


They did, long ago. “America’s Team.”
RE: Aren't Cowboys known...  
Big Al : 7/23/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15311160 bw in dc said:
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for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...
The Dallas Drovers do not have that connotation.
RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
Greg from LI : 7/23/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15311163 dlauster said:
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This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.


You know that most actual American Indians don't remotely care about this, right?

BTW, most prefer the term American Indian to "Native American". Just so you know.
they were only called 'Indians' in the first place because  
Del Shofner : 7/23/2021 11:05 am : link
Columbus had no idea where he was.
RE: Aren't Cowboys known...  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 11:06 am : link
In comment 15311160 bw in dc said:
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for killing a lot of Indians?

And if so, I think the next step would be having the Cowboys change their name...


I'm deciding between the Dallas Brokebacks or the Dallas Debbies
RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
rnargi : 7/23/2021 11:06 am : link
In comment 15311163 dlauster said:
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.


No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
Same thing happened with the "Golden Knights"  
widmerseyebrow : 7/23/2021 11:08 am : link
Even the owner didn't get what he really wanted (Black Knights) so everyone lost and wound up settling for a name with an adjective in it, which is a great way to sound like a minor league team.

Fans often have the right answer but then owners step in and show everyone who's an idio...er boss.

1. Spiders
2. Rockers
3. Guardians
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How many native america named teams are left?  
US1 Giants : 7/23/2021 11:09 am : link
In professional sports; Blackhawks and Chiefs come to mind.
Pretty indifferent to this as  
bwitz : 7/23/2021 11:09 am : link
it really doesn’t effect me one way or another.

Having said that, why not go back to the Cleveland Spiders? At least there’s history there. Not to mention they could probably make a shit ton of money on retro merchandise along with the new stuff they’d be making. Seems like a missed opportunity.
RE: Cleveland Rockers would make the most sense  
j_rud : 7/23/2021 11:09 am : link
In comment 15311099 dpinzow said:
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the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there


Just shorten it to "Cleveland Rocks" lime the old Presidents of the USA song they used on the Drew Carey show. Original, unique, rolls off the tongue, plenty of opportunity to design a logo that incorporates music and stone. Really big whiff with "guardians".
how was Buckeyes 5th on that poll?  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 11:10 am : link
do those people want to name every team in Cleveland the Buckeyes?
This is a huge victory...  
BamaBlue : 7/23/2021 11:11 am : link
for all those people who search endlessly for things to be offended by. They can put this notch on their belt.
RE: How many native america named teams are left?  
KDavies : 7/23/2021 11:11 am : link
In comment 15311182 US1 Giants said:
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In professional sports; Blackhawks and Chiefs come to mind.


Braves, Warriors as well
RE: Cleveland Wokians  
wigs in nyc : 7/23/2021 11:23 am : link
In comment 15311136 weeg in the bronx said:
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Oh, man, nailed ‘em!!! Good one! ‘Woke!’ Ha!

Seriously, who gives an eff? Cleveland did a cost/benefit analysis and it pointed to a re-brand was in their best interest, end of story. Happy Friday.
It's fine  
bluepepper : 7/23/2021 11:29 am : link
in a few years most people will look back and laugh at how tenaciously people clung to the old name.
America 2021  
The_Boss : 7/23/2021 11:34 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: Cleveland Wokians  
dlauster : 7/23/2021 11:39 am : link
In comment 15311178 rnargi said:
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In comment 15311136 weeg in the bronx said:


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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.



No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.


We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Like that it changed ...  
DonQuixote : 7/23/2021 11:39 am : link
...but it's pretty bad. Spiders seemed like an obvious hit with great merch potential,
RE: It's fine  
BamaBlue : 7/23/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15311203 bluepepper said:
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in a few years most people will look back and laugh at how tenaciously people clung to the old name.


I would say this is not people clinging to the name. That's not the issue. The issue is the ridiculous pressure to change a name and capitulation for the sake of appeasement. Anyone genuinely offended by the name "Indians" needs to be ignored, not appeased.
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