Golden State is on pretty firm ground. They did use native iconography in the past, but they stopped over 50 years ago. And term Warrior is not Native American per se.
Seriously, who gives an eff? Cleveland did a cost/benefit analysis and it pointed to a re-brand was in their best interest, end of story. Happy Friday.
I disagree. They caved to the tiny very loud woke mob. And failed in doing so with the worst name you could possibly come up with.
I would say this is not people clinging to the name. That's not the issue. The issue is the ridiculous pressure to change a name and capitulation for the sake of appeasement. Anyone genuinely offended by the name "Indians" needs to be ignored, not appeased.
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.
Are you really "thinking"? As long as you continue to accept division and separatism,for any reason, you'll have division and separatism.
Are you really "thinking"? As long as you continue to accept division and separatism,for any reason, you'll have division and separatism.
I mean. c'mon now. Plenty of people think the name changes are unnecessary, and it's not hard to understand why. But absurd comments like this really make you look silly.
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.
Unfortunately today the direction is to call a radically different view un-American and silence it.
to see folks whine about a private company choose to re-brand and then claim anyone who might have been offended ought to be ignored.
It precious to see those 'smarter than everyone else' people who defend changing a name for no other reason than faux indignity. Like petulant children, they beg to be ignored.
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Why "not now"? Because ten pajama boys on Twitter said so? The racial divisiveness celebrated by you and others is one of the top problems this country has.
Seriously, who gives an eff? Cleveland did a cost/benefit analysis and it pointed to a re-brand was in their best interest, end of story. Happy Friday.
I disagree. They caved to the tiny very loud woke mob. And failed in doing so with the worst name you could possibly come up with.
The pelicans and wizards would like to have a word with you
not only will we stop offending woke white people but we'll also pretty much never talk again about American Indians outside of the classroom. Maybe that's a step towards erasing our guilty conscience ... to just forget about them.
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
Indian is actually a pejorative term, often used to separate if not dehumanize Natives. Yes they use the term themselves, but I guarantee they'd all rather just be called by their tribal name.
Aa far as why would an entity purposefully name themselves that, well in the early 1900s it wasn't seen as derogatory, but feelings have changed in the last 100+ years. There's also been protests about it since the 70s, it's not like this is a contemporary issue to "woke culture" there's just enough impetus now to actually do something about it
Will the name change materially affect natives? No probability not. There's a lot of issues many tribes face, especially so in this era of covid, but it's a step in denormalizing stereotypes, derogatory names, and seeing natives as something on par with amimals and sock colors.
to see folks whine about a private company choose to re-brand and then claim anyone who might have been offended ought to be ignored.
It precious to see those 'smarter than everyone else' people who defend changing a name for no other reason than faux indignity. Like petulant children, they beg to be ignored.
That's...great. Be sure to make some signs. Big signs.
continues to wither on the vine as all these asinine changes are made to please every minority/gender under the sun. Is it ok to ask who Rocky Colavito played for?
to think of a team that got it right with a name change.
About the only one I can think of is Syracuse, who went from the Saltine Warriors to the Orange. At least they got an iconic mascot out of it.
I guess the Rays, Stars and Ducks losing the Devil, North and Mighty part isn't too bad either
I kind of preferred Mighty Ducks. I also preferred North Stars.
I think Supersonics got it right moving to Thunder (though I do miss the Supersonics colors and court paint. I also think Red Storm works better than Redmen. Not great, but better.
the Hornets went back. The Bobcats would be like Washington naming themselves the Daniel-sans.
Yep. The Bobcats were the worst.
I remember when they first named it the Bobcats, they talked about how plentiful the animals are in the area. Maybe if you go up to the mountains 3 hours away. Why not just call then the Beaches then - just as close.
It was Bob Johnson being an egomaniac from Day 1 and nobody called him on it from a media standpoint.
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[quote] as to why it's taken so long for Washington to rename their team? It took Cleveland less than three months.
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
Man are we all fortunate to have this guy around. I mean, up until now, I'd have to wake up, decide on what I'm having for breakfast, and then make a shitload of choices at work.
Now we can simply wait for margin to send his morning memorandum outlining what we're to think and care about on that particular day. Fuckin' cake.
RE: they were only called 'Indians' in the first place because
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
oh christ....these kinds.
And your kind are destroying a great nation. Please expire.
It has significance to the city, those statues are cool and often featured when watching anything about Cleveland or based in Cleveland, I don't mind the logo or the font for the name. But, who cares if you or I like it? The target is people of Cleveland.
That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
oh christ....these kinds.
And your kind are destroying a great nation. Please expire.
my kind? you dont even know me or what i think. you idiots are whining over a sports teams name change just to fucking argue over something of little consequence. yea a team name is dividing the country. if you dont like my views youre un-American and leave my country! come down from that pedestal and kindly go fuck yourself
Of the changing of these names. I think we can all agree that native Americans got a pretty raw deal, if this upsets just one of them let’s try to be compassionate. I am the farthest thing from woke but to quote Chris rock “ain’t no one had it as hard as the Native American”.
Braves, Warriors as well
Golden State is on pretty firm ground. They did use native iconography in the past, but they stopped over 50 years ago. And term Warrior is not Native American per se.
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Oh, man, nailed ‘em!!! Good one! ‘Woke!’ Ha!
Seriously, who gives an eff? Cleveland did a cost/benefit analysis and it pointed to a re-brand was in their best interest, end of story. Happy Friday.
I disagree. They caved to the tiny very loud woke mob. And failed in doing so with the worst name you could possibly come up with.
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.
Are you really "thinking"? As long as you continue to accept division and separatism,for any reason, you'll have division and separatism.
I mean. c'mon now. Plenty of people think the name changes are unnecessary, and it's not hard to understand why. But absurd comments like this really make you look silly.
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
Well you and I just think and believe in radically differently ways. I guess that's cool, because that's America too.
It precious to see those 'smarter than everyone else' people who defend changing a name for no other reason than faux indignity. Like petulant children, they beg to be ignored.
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Why "not now"? Because ten pajama boys on Twitter said so? The racial divisiveness celebrated by you and others is one of the top problems this country has.
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Oh, man, nailed ‘em!!! Good one! ‘Woke!’ Ha!
Seriously, who gives an eff? Cleveland did a cost/benefit analysis and it pointed to a re-brand was in their best interest, end of story. Happy Friday.
I disagree. They caved to the tiny very loud woke mob. And failed in doing so with the worst name you could possibly come up with.
The pelicans and wizards would like to have a word with you
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
We will be one people one day, but certainly not now. This change is a step towards your goal. Can you not see that?
Not in the fucking least. You had an actual native American family who designed the logo for the Washington Redskins lose money because of this insane 'wokeness'. The vast majority of native Americans couldn't care less. And the word Indian is not a pejorative, now is it? Why would any single entity want to name themselves something that was purposefully derogatory towards a particular culture? In fact, the argument can be made that calling themselves the Indians was being inclusive to Indians. It's pathetic pandering.
Indian is actually a pejorative term, often used to separate if not dehumanize Natives. Yes they use the term themselves, but I guarantee they'd all rather just be called by their tribal name.
Aa far as why would an entity purposefully name themselves that, well in the early 1900s it wasn't seen as derogatory, but feelings have changed in the last 100+ years. There's also been protests about it since the 70s, it's not like this is a contemporary issue to "woke culture" there's just enough impetus now to actually do something about it
Will the name change materially affect natives? No probability not. There's a lot of issues many tribes face, especially so in this era of covid, but it's a step in denormalizing stereotypes, derogatory names, and seeing natives as something on par with amimals and sock colors.
No in a few years I'll still be laughing at just how awful the new (then current) name is.
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It precious to see those 'smarter than everyone else' people who defend changing a name for no other reason than faux indignity. Like petulant children, they beg to be ignored.
That's...great. Be sure to make some signs. Big signs.
About the only one I can think of is Syracuse, who went from the Saltine Warriors to the Orange. At least they got an iconic mascot out of it.
I guess the Rays, Stars and Ducks losing the Devil, North and Mighty part isn't too bad either
About the only one I can think of is Syracuse, who went from the Saltine Warriors to the Orange. At least they got an iconic mascot out of it.
I guess the Rays, Stars and Ducks losing the Devil, North and Mighty part isn't too bad either
I kind of preferred Mighty Ducks. I also preferred North Stars.
I think Supersonics got it right moving to Thunder (though I do miss the Supersonics colors and court paint. I also think Red Storm works better than Redmen. Not great, but better.
Worst, imho, is Bobcats.
Yep. The Bobcats were the worst.
Or NYFG rebranding as the NY Marauders. Or Maracas. Some slick branding opportunities there. Mariaci band starts to play after each TD.
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Yep. The Bobcats were the worst.
I remember when they first named it the Bobcats, they talked about how plentiful the animals are in the area. Maybe if you go up to the mountains 3 hours away. Why not just call then the Beaches then - just as close.
It was Bob Johnson being an egomaniac from Day 1 and nobody called him on it from a media standpoint.
Seattle Pilots to Milwaukee Brewers was a good one, as was Washington Senators to Texas Rangers.
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Seattle Pilots to Milwaukee Brewers was a good one, as was Washington Senators to Texas Rangers.
I was thinking more along teh lines of changes while staying in a location. I think when teams move, they should change the name.
[quote] as to why it's taken so long for Washington to rename their team? It took Cleveland less than three months.
and we've learned why more time is necessary LOL
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
oh christ....these kinds.
Man are we all fortunate to have this guy around. I mean, up until now, I'd have to wake up, decide on what I'm having for breakfast, and then make a shitload of choices at work.
Now we can simply wait for margin to send his morning memorandum outlining what we're to think and care about on that particular day. Fuckin' cake.
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
oh christ....these kinds.
And your kind are destroying a great nation. Please expire.
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That's a jerky thing to write. This is both important and long freaking overdue and if you don't get it just keep it to yourself please.
No. It's not important. It's trivial and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's only important to those that continue to want to keep Americans divided. We are one nation. We are one people. We should never hyphenate or segregate ourselves in any way. There is one American Flag, One American National Anthem, there is one America. If you believe differently, you are a useful idiot to those that wish to keep us divided.
oh christ....these kinds.
And your kind are destroying a great nation. Please expire.
my kind? you dont even know me or what i think. you idiots are whining over a sports teams name change just to fucking argue over something of little consequence. yea a team name is dividing the country. if you dont like my views youre un-American and leave my country! come down from that pedestal and kindly go fuck yourself
Yeah that's a fail.
But in the end, it's their franchise. Most sports franchise names are pretty crappy.