Oubra is a Thibs type of player defensively his 3 pt shooting was strong the 2nd half of the season
Nope. He was 30-98 after the All Star break, 30.6%, a tick below his 31.6% for the season.
He did get off to a horrendous start, so he had to be above average sometime. But that was from mid-January to late February and he did not sustain the trend in the second half.
That's the way stats are. In big picture, he is 32.6% from 3 pt for his career and has shot 32.5% or below four of the last five seasons.
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Had people on both the agent and team sides say they expect a record number of trades this offseason. Poor FA class, limited cap space, teams wanting to go for it are all the main reasons why.
Also mentioned: revenue losses weren't as bad as projected. Teams are willing to spend.
Yup a wise man did say that. Congrats. But I do recall that another wiseman said the Knicks wanted him bad and were trying to do everything they could to get him long before the rumors started. That also was accurate (grin). BTW they are not giving up. The reluctance to deal RJB isn’t just his potential but they feel the potential to lure Zion which is 50% of it which I’m sure you also know (grin).
I feel like they will end up having to settle ona guy like oubre. Oubre certainly will not want to take a 1 year deal but not alot teams have cap flexibility so maybe he will take a 1+1, if Knicks are willing to pay $20+ mill per year which I would be fine with for a short term deal. Other option may be 2+1 with a team option. He fits their timeline in terms of his age, certainly can still develop more. I don’t love him, but if Beal gets traded, then the only free agent option next year is lavine and it sounds like he is very interested in re upping with the bulls. I’m assuming the big 3 re up in Brooklyn and Steph stays in golden state. Candidly I don’t want harden or kyrie anyway and KD has made it very clear he will not play for the Knicks.
I love chris Paul but I’m not interested in giving him a 3 year $120 million deal.
My view on the team is unless they get a top 20 type of player they will take a small step back next year. Randle played out of his mind and the whole team went hard every minute for the whole season, which isn’t sustainable. Still see them as a 7 or 8 seed, I just don’t see the big offseason splash that we are all hoping for, which I am fine with. Let these guys all develop for another year and see which star is disgruntled next offseason. Maybe the nets blow up, maybe Klay isn’t back to form and GS has to break it up and start over, who knows.
we have no idea what the Knicks are going to do, it has been oretty quiet for the Knicks right now, only thing we have heard is they are willing to package picks to move up..
I feel like what they are going to do is oretty wide open right now..
The only way I want Beal would be heavy picks and not players. We found players in the draft who can play key roles on this team we don’t need to fish for more. I am fine trading 4 or 5 first rounders and so swap rights with Toppin and knox. Chances are that won’t get it done because wizards will probably prefer ben simmons in any deal.
If you can have a starting 5 of:
PG - Rose/free agent/Rookie
SG - Beal
SF - Barrett
PF - Randle
C - Mitch
Bench
Quickley
Vets
And then cap space next year that is a pretty good situation to be in
hope Giddey falls a bit, would not mind him on the Knicks. If he can work on his shot a bit and with Thibs helping him translate his defense to NBA speed, I think he can be a good player.
between the rumors of the Wizards trading Westbrook and reports that Beal has been on the fence for a few weeks, Beal has either told the Wizards to trade him or basically told them he is leaning thay way...
If/when it is reported he wants out that wont be the first time the Wizards were told..
including a 24 first from memphis top 4 protected..
so it comes down to Rj vs wiseman and if wizards want wiggins or cap space
I don't think the Warriors have a huge trump card offer. I think RJ is a far better asset than Wiseman. And the 7th and 14th picks are nice but not a huge game changer in this draft. I do think if they include their future 1st way out and the Memphis pick help big time.
But if Beal is available the competition is going to be steep. He fits on every team in the NBA and is a 27 year old All NBA player that is an elite shooter/ averaging 30 a game.
I do hope the Knicks get involved in the Pelicans trade talks with Bledsoe and the 10th pick. He hasn't been good but he's not a complete dud- good backup guard.
we're calling beal an elite NBA shooter then hes a career 37.5% three point shooter and hasn't topped 35.5% since 2017. Meanwhile sexton is a career 38.5% three point shooter and no one calls him an elite shooter. beal is certainly very good but he definitely has some volume shooter to his game.
The Knicks have made attempts to move up into the late lottery by combining their two first-round selections, sources say, and could still find a suitable move going into draft night, whether that’s acquiring NBA talent, or moving around in the draft. New York has also been the team most frequently linked to Jackson over the course of the predraft process, noting the team’s demonstrable penchant for Kentucky players. While Jackson is inarguably raw and not particularly skilled, he’s an exceptional athlete, and flashed enough intriguing things during the season to solidify first-round interest. The hope is that Jackson will emerge as a rim-running center who protects the basket, but he’s not particularly reliable yet and viewed as more of a project. He’s an acquired taste for some scouts, who question his offensive acumen and feel.
21. Knicks (from Mavericks): Usman Garuba, F/C, Real Madrid (Spain)
Height: 6' 8" | Weight: 230 | Age: 19
Teams are all over the board on Garuba, who has one of the most intriguing defensive profiles in the draft, but is lagging behind in terms of offensive skills at this point, leading to questions over what his eventual role might be on that end of the floor. The Knicks have a defensive-minded head coach in Tom Thibodeau, and could be intrigued by what Garuba has to offer. He’s exceptionally well-tested for his age, having cut his teeth in Real Madrid’s senior team and the Spanish national team, and he should have utility as a physical, switchable ball screen defender who can guard all over the frontcourt. But teams are concerned about how far away he might be on offense, and it’s possible he slips into the 20s.
RE: I'd rather have Barrett and our picks than Beal
we're calling beal an elite NBA shooter then hes a career 37.5% three point shooter and hasn't topped 35.5% since 2017. Meanwhile sexton is a career 38.5% three point shooter and no one calls him an elite shooter. beal is certainly very good but he definitely has some volume shooter to his game.
I would also say Beal has very little if any help on offense and those shots he takes are typically tough. He's not getting a ton of open looks.
Maybe he's not truly elite but he has the potential to get close to 50/40/90 which not many players are capable of. Especially players that can average 30 a game and hold up on defense.
RE: RE: the narratives on certain players is interesting
we're calling beal an elite NBA shooter then hes a career 37.5% three point shooter and hasn't topped 35.5% since 2017. Meanwhile sexton is a career 38.5% three point shooter and no one calls him an elite shooter. beal is certainly very good but he definitely has some volume shooter to his game.
I would also say Beal has very little if any help on offense and those shots he takes are typically tough. He's not getting a ton of open looks.
Maybe he's not truly elite but he has the potential to get close to 50/40/90 which not many players are capable of. Especially players that can average 30 a game and hold up on defense.
It goes both ways too. He scores more because he has to. On a championship caliber team his ppg will not he 30.
I don't think you can take two players and compare them
purely on 3pt shooting percentages. It depends on how you get those shots, what's your shooting volume, and where you take those shots from. Look at some of the percentages on the Knicks last season.
No one thinks or should think Sexton does what Beal does.
HARDER to trade than most feel as he is very attached to a potential future asset. There is more to it than his game.0
I'm just curious how that would even play out. We aren't waiting until he could potentially hit FA in 2024. If we go the trade route we need to have legit pieces to trade.
Trade a ton for Beal but keep 2 of IQ or Barrett or Mitch. Everything else goes.
Sign Ball to a 3-4 year big deal.
Wait out randle or maneuver so that we can sign him later on and go over the cap, AFTER signing a max in 2022.
If you cannot convince me this isn’t plausible, then we need to seriously consider trading for Beal of even Lilliard. It could be a precursor to an elite roster. Even if you couldn’t add a max in 2022 but could still re-sign Randle that team ain’t so bad at all. Ball, Beal, FA, Randle, Mitch with IQ and Rose and Burks on the bench. And maybe max room in 2022? Don’t tell me that’s melo redux all over again. That team would be nasty.
Who is your superstar you are going to get?
Until you know you are getting the superstar why are you getting rid of our young players?
Haven't we done this silliness over-and-over the pats decade of trading away our young talent and never being a threat?
So the past two years we've show restraint and been more successful than we've ben in the last 10 and now we're going to fall back on the prior philosophy that never worked?
How does that make nay sense? The Knick need to get an elite superstar. Beal isn't that. Until you get that supreme player - where are the Knicks going? Nowhere.
*****Name the superstar the Knicks are going to get after they trade quite abut for Beal? Please name him instead of praying. Who says getting Beal attracts the superstar?
I just spelled it out. I said we'd sign Ball, trade for Beal, and still have Randle's hold (maybe) and have max room in 2022. What's not to like with this scenario?
Whether we get a super star in 22 or not, we'd still have flexibility.
I am not even screaming to make this move but everyone keeps looking at the beal signing in a vacuum. There's more to it. We need to look deeper and stop screaming Melo part 2 every time someone wants to trade for a super star.
are so scared of making that trade or signing. not every trade is Melo all over again.
The Knicks have a shit load of assets and room to operate. There's risks in dealing for a star, there's also risks in not doing so and sticking with all these kids.
If you can trade one of RJB and IQ and a bunch of young crap for Beal and STILL have room to add 1-2 max players and re-sign Randle? What am I missing here? That team contends.
are so scared of making that trade or signing. not every trade is Melo all over again.
The Knicks have a shit load of assets and room to operate. There's risks in dealing for a star, there's also risks in not doing so and sticking with all these kids.
If you can trade one of RJB and IQ and a bunch of young crap for Beal and STILL have room to add 1-2 max players and re-sign Randle? What am I missing here? That team contends.
Because we may have a star in Barrett. What he has done at 20 is remarkable. And Beal is good but not a superstar. Beal and Randle aren't winning shit and that could easily backfire with a bad season. Yes, it could work out but I'm not hanging my hat on Randle and Beal.
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
Give me an example.
Would not trade RJ and a bunch of picks for Beal. I like
I’m interested in seeing what RJ adds to his game next year. A mid-range back to the basket game perhaps? He just needs to realize he should finish in the paint with power, angle, and being a lefty and not with speed or by jumping over people, and he will be fine. Of course, the outside shot needs to continue to improve too.
RE: Would not trade RJ and a bunch of picks for Beal. I like
I’m interested in seeing what RJ adds to his game next year. A mid-range back to the basket game perhaps? He just needs to realize he should finish in the paint with power, angle, and being a lefty and not with speed or by jumping over people, and he will be fine. Of course, the outside shot needs to continue to improve too.
He started off the first 12 games of the year shooting 21% from 3. There were months where he was shooting near 50% from 3. I am not worried about his outside shot at all.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I never knew money carried over.
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
Give me an example.
so for example Bledsoe and 10 for 19...knicks could make that deal now based off of 16.7 million rather than his 18 next year and have that pick if they want to keep it or flip it..
rather than waiting until free agency and making it more complicated during the draft to flip the 10th pick..
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I never knew money carried over.
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
Give me an example.
so for example Bledsoe and 10 for 19...knicks could make that deal now based off of 16.7 million rather than his 18 next year and have that pick if they want to keep it or flip it..
rather than waiting until free agency and making it more complicated during the draft to flip the 10th pick..
But, like I said, it doesn't really matter if it was last year's rules or this year's rules. We'd be able to make that move. I don't see that as an advantage for anyone outside of a team that was under the cap to being over the cap the following year. I get what you are saying. It is just beneficial as opposed to other teams who aren't under the cap.
Oubra is a Thibs type of player defensively his 3 pt shooting was strong the 2nd half of the season
Nope. He was 30-98 after the All Star break, 30.6%, a tick below his 31.6% for the season.
He did get off to a horrendous start, so he had to be above average sometime. But that was from mid-January to late February and he did not sustain the trend in the second half.
That's the way stats are. In big picture, he is 32.6% from 3 pt for his career and has shot 32.5% or below four of the last five seasons.
Not a lot of mystery there.
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4h
Had people on both the agent and team sides say they expect a record number of trades this offseason. Poor FA class, limited cap space, teams wanting to go for it are all the main reasons why.
Also mentioned: revenue losses weren't as bad as projected. Teams are willing to spend.
I love chris Paul but I’m not interested in giving him a 3 year $120 million deal.
My view on the team is unless they get a top 20 type of player they will take a small step back next year. Randle played out of his mind and the whole team went hard every minute for the whole season, which isn’t sustainable. Still see them as a 7 or 8 seed, I just don’t see the big offseason splash that we are all hoping for, which I am fine with. Let these guys all develop for another year and see which star is disgruntled next offseason. Maybe the nets blow up, maybe Klay isn’t back to form and GS has to break it up and start over, who knows.
I feel like what they are going to do is oretty wide open right now..
Who is Raheem Palmer? Did he mention what the deal looked like?
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take FWIW but he said Knicks were close to getting Beal last year but it fell apart because Beal didnt want to be traded during a pandemic...
Who is Raheem Palmer? Did he mention what the deal looked like?
I just listened to a clip of it, gonna go back and listen to the episode, i dont think he did..
Lookong at his profile he has a blue check, says he is a dj/producer, he did mention he has a few sources with espn and was a writer...so who knows
there was a rumor that wes was working back channels to get Beal to ask out and leave
If you can have a starting 5 of:
PG - Rose/free agent/Rookie
SG - Beal
SF - Barrett
PF - Randle
C - Mitch
Bench
Quickley
Vets
And then cap space next year that is a pretty good situation to be in
I think it'll be moot either way and the Warriors will give some combo of 7/14/Weisman/Wiggins and get a deal done.
If/when it is reported he wants out that wont be the first time the Wizards were told..
I think it'll be moot either way and the Warriors will give some combo of 7/14/Weisman/Wiggins and get a deal done.
I dont think the warriors offer is some spectacular offer..
mid lottery and late lottery..
Wiseman could be very good but it is qll projection..
and wiggins on a big deal is the definition of average
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can be choosers, but I think Beal is a top 20 guy, not a true top 10 guy.
I think it'll be moot either way and the Warriors will give some combo of 7/14/Weisman/Wiggins and get a deal done.
I dont think the warriors offer is some spectacular offer..
mid lottery and late lottery..
Wiseman could be very good but it is qll projection..
and wiggins on a big deal is the definition of average
I agree, I don't think it's great, but can the Knicks beat that? Can anyone -- maybe the Celtics if they include Jaylen Brown.
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can be choosers, but I think Beal is a top 20 guy, not a true top 10 guy.
I think it'll be moot either way and the Warriors will give some combo of 7/14/Weisman/Wiggins and get a deal done.
I dont think the warriors offer is some spectacular offer..
mid lottery and late lottery..
Wiseman could be very good but it is qll projection..
and wiggins on a big deal is the definition of average
I agree, I don't think it's great, but can the Knicks beat that? Can anyone -- maybe the Celtics if they include Jaylen Brown.
if Knicks put Rj, 19 and 21, 22 swap and a 23rd is that better?
so it comes down to Rj vs wiseman and if wizards want wiggins or cap space
so it comes down to Rj vs wiseman and if wizards want wiggins or cap space
I don't think the Warriors have a huge trump card offer. I think RJ is a far better asset than Wiseman. And the 7th and 14th picks are nice but not a huge game changer in this draft. I do think if they include their future 1st way out and the Memphis pick help big time.
But if Beal is available the competition is going to be steep. He fits on every team in the NBA and is a 27 year old All NBA player that is an elite shooter/ averaging 30 a game.
I do hope the Knicks get involved in the Pelicans trade talks with Bledsoe and the 10th pick. He hasn't been good but he's not a complete dud- good backup guard.
Height: 6' 10" | Weight: 205 | Age: 19 | Freshman
The Knicks have made attempts to move up into the late lottery by combining their two first-round selections, sources say, and could still find a suitable move going into draft night, whether that’s acquiring NBA talent, or moving around in the draft. New York has also been the team most frequently linked to Jackson over the course of the predraft process, noting the team’s demonstrable penchant for Kentucky players. While Jackson is inarguably raw and not particularly skilled, he’s an exceptional athlete, and flashed enough intriguing things during the season to solidify first-round interest. The hope is that Jackson will emerge as a rim-running center who protects the basket, but he’s not particularly reliable yet and viewed as more of a project. He’s an acquired taste for some scouts, who question his offensive acumen and feel.
21. Knicks (from Mavericks): Usman Garuba, F/C, Real Madrid (Spain)
Height: 6' 8" | Weight: 230 | Age: 19
Teams are all over the board on Garuba, who has one of the most intriguing defensive profiles in the draft, but is lagging behind in terms of offensive skills at this point, leading to questions over what his eventual role might be on that end of the floor. The Knicks have a defensive-minded head coach in Tom Thibodeau, and could be intrigued by what Garuba has to offer. He’s exceptionally well-tested for his age, having cut his teeth in Real Madrid’s senior team and the Spanish national team, and he should have utility as a physical, switchable ball screen defender who can guard all over the frontcourt. But teams are concerned about how far away he might be on offense, and it’s possible he slips into the 20s.
Me too. Any deal for Beal with RJ in it is a no go for me
I would also say Beal has very little if any help on offense and those shots he takes are typically tough. He's not getting a ton of open looks.
Maybe he's not truly elite but he has the potential to get close to 50/40/90 which not many players are capable of. Especially players that can average 30 a game and hold up on defense.
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we're calling beal an elite NBA shooter then hes a career 37.5% three point shooter and hasn't topped 35.5% since 2017. Meanwhile sexton is a career 38.5% three point shooter and no one calls him an elite shooter. beal is certainly very good but he definitely has some volume shooter to his game.
I would also say Beal has very little if any help on offense and those shots he takes are typically tough. He's not getting a ton of open looks.
Maybe he's not truly elite but he has the potential to get close to 50/40/90 which not many players are capable of. Especially players that can average 30 a game and hold up on defense.
It goes both ways too. He scores more because he has to. On a championship caliber team his ppg will not he 30.
No one thinks or should think Sexton does what Beal does.
I'm just curious how that would even play out. We aren't waiting until he could potentially hit FA in 2024. If we go the trade route we need to have legit pieces to trade.
Him and Oubre are very hard passes for me personally.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Knicks have until the draft to use their 2020 cap space right? I really hope they can utilize it for an asset.
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There’s a distinct possibly this is possible:
Trade a ton for Beal but keep 2 of IQ or Barrett or Mitch. Everything else goes.
Sign Ball to a 3-4 year big deal.
Wait out randle or maneuver so that we can sign him later on and go over the cap, AFTER signing a max in 2022.
If you cannot convince me this isn’t plausible, then we need to seriously consider trading for Beal of even Lilliard. It could be a precursor to an elite roster. Even if you couldn’t add a max in 2022 but could still re-sign Randle that team ain’t so bad at all. Ball, Beal, FA, Randle, Mitch with IQ and Rose and Burks on the bench. And maybe max room in 2022? Don’t tell me that’s melo redux all over again. That team would be nasty.
Who is your superstar you are going to get?
Until you know you are getting the superstar why are you getting rid of our young players?
Haven't we done this silliness over-and-over the pats decade of trading away our young talent and never being a threat?
So the past two years we've show restraint and been more successful than we've ben in the last 10 and now we're going to fall back on the prior philosophy that never worked?
How does that make nay sense? The Knick need to get an elite superstar. Beal isn't that. Until you get that supreme player - where are the Knicks going? Nowhere.
*****Name the superstar the Knicks are going to get after they trade quite abut for Beal? Please name him instead of praying. Who says getting Beal attracts the superstar?
I just spelled it out. I said we'd sign Ball, trade for Beal, and still have Randle's hold (maybe) and have max room in 2022. What's not to like with this scenario?
Whether we get a super star in 22 or not, we'd still have flexibility.
I am not even screaming to make this move but everyone keeps looking at the beal signing in a vacuum. There's more to it. We need to look deeper and stop screaming Melo part 2 every time someone wants to trade for a super star.
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Him and Oubre are very hard passes for me personally.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Knicks have until the draft to use their 2020 cap space right? I really hope they can utilize it for an asset.
yup 13 million in space
The Knicks have a shit load of assets and room to operate. There's risks in dealing for a star, there's also risks in not doing so and sticking with all these kids.
If you can trade one of RJB and IQ and a bunch of young crap for Beal and STILL have room to add 1-2 max players and re-sign Randle? What am I missing here? That team contends.
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
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The Knicks have a shit load of assets and room to operate. There's risks in dealing for a star, there's also risks in not doing so and sticking with all these kids.
If you can trade one of RJB and IQ and a bunch of young crap for Beal and STILL have room to add 1-2 max players and re-sign Randle? What am I missing here? That team contends.
Because we may have a star in Barrett. What he has done at 20 is remarkable. And Beal is good but not a superstar. Beal and Randle aren't winning shit and that could easily backfire with a bad season. Yes, it could work out but I'm not hanging my hat on Randle and Beal.
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I read NO is very interested which would mean they wouldn't match anything on Ball so you could technically give him a low offer.
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How does that work?
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
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How does that work?
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
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How does that work?
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
Give me an example.
I’m interested in seeing what RJ adds to his game next year. A mid-range back to the basket game perhaps? He just needs to realize he should finish in the paint with power, angle, and being a lefty and not with speed or by jumping over people, and he will be fine. Of course, the outside shot needs to continue to improve too.
I’m interested in seeing what RJ adds to his game next year. A mid-range back to the basket game perhaps? He just needs to realize he should finish in the paint with power, angle, and being a lefty and not with speed or by jumping over people, and he will be fine. Of course, the outside shot needs to continue to improve too.
He started off the first 12 games of the year shooting 21% from 3. There were months where he was shooting near 50% from 3. I am not worried about his outside shot at all.
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How does that work?
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
Give me an example.
so for example Bledsoe and 10 for 19...knicks could make that deal now based off of 16.7 million rather than his 18 next year and have that pick if they want to keep it or flip it..
rather than waiting until free agency and making it more complicated during the draft to flip the 10th pick..
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How does that work?
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
Give me an example.
so for example Bledsoe and 10 for 19...knicks could make that deal now based off of 16.7 million rather than his 18 next year and have that pick if they want to keep it or flip it..
rather than waiting until free agency and making it more complicated during the draft to flip the 10th pick..
But, like I said, it doesn't really matter if it was last year's rules or this year's rules. We'd be able to make that move. I don't see that as an advantage for anyone outside of a team that was under the cap to being over the cap the following year. I get what you are saying. It is just beneficial as opposed to other teams who aren't under the cap.