are so scared of making that trade or signing. not every trade is Melo all over again.
The Knicks have a shit load of assets and room to operate. There's risks in dealing for a star, there's also risks in not doing so and sticking with all these kids.
If you can trade one of RJB and IQ and a bunch of young crap for Beal and STILL have room to add 1-2 max players and re-sign Randle? What am I missing here? That team contends.
Because we may have a star in Barrett. What he has done at 20 is remarkable. And Beal is good but not a superstar. Beal and Randle aren't winning shit and that could easily backfire with a bad season. Yes, it could work out but I'm not hanging my hat on Randle and Beal.
Selling Beal a little short here no?
This isn't aimed at you specifically but some Knicks fans seem way to reluctant to make a trade. No players are perfect and homegrown guys always seem to be overrated by the fanbase. But you win in the NBA with the top players and if you have a chance to get a top 15-20 guy, in my opinion you do what it takes to land them.
Just look at 3 of the recent top 10 picks on the roster. Picks and young players can be vastly overrated...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I never knew money carried over.
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
Give me an example.
so for example Bledsoe and 10 for 19...knicks could make that deal now based off of 16.7 million rather than his 18 next year and have that pick if they want to keep it or flip it..
rather than waiting until free agency and making it more complicated during the draft to flip the 10th pick..
But, like I said, it doesn't really matter if it was last year's rules or this year's rules. We'd be able to make that move. I don't see that as an advantage for anyone outside of a team that was under the cap to being over the cap the following year. I get what you are saying. It is just beneficial as opposed to other teams who aren't under the cap.
i guess more convenient than advantage..
I'm selling a gutted team with Randle and Beal short.
An injury, a bad season, etc. and what max will want to sign here? I love the direction this team is going. And I will say this a million times. This is the NBA, stars are available multiple times every year. Trying to go with the quick fix now is shortsighted. I think Obi can be a really good player for us. Why would I want to sell him for pennies on the dollar? Why would I want to give up on RJ when he would be one of the youngest players in this upcoming draft? RJ's ceiling is great. Why can't we be patient and keep developing our players?
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The two teams that could really shake things up are the Knicks and Thunder. Both have significant financial flexibility to absorb bad contracts as well as multiple picks to package and potentially move up. Their front offices will likely be busy fielding calls this week.
RE: I'm selling a gutted team with Randle and Beal short.
An injury, a bad season, etc. and what max will want to sign here? I love the direction this team is going. And I will say this a million times. This is the NBA, stars are available multiple times every year. Trying to go with the quick fix now is shortsighted. I think Obi can be a really good player for us. Why would I want to sell him for pennies on the dollar? Why would I want to give up on RJ when he would be one of the youngest players in this upcoming draft? RJ's ceiling is great. Why can't we be patient and keep developing our players?
Your opinion of Obi might be different than theirs though. Imagine if they'd sold on Knox after his rookie year? He isn't going to get the minutes to really improve his trade value all that much anyways barring an injury to Randle. Unless they think Obi can be an all-star (doubtful) then now is a good time to trade him while he's still got 3 years left on his rookie deal.
are so scared of making that trade or signing. not every trade is Melo all over again.
The Knicks have a shit load of assets and room to operate. There's risks in dealing for a star, there's also risks in not doing so and sticking with all these kids.
If you can trade one of RJB and IQ and a bunch of young crap for Beal and STILL have room to add 1-2 max players and re-sign Randle? What am I missing here? That team contends.
Because we may have a star in Barrett. What he has done at 20 is remarkable. And Beal is good but not a superstar. Beal and Randle aren't winning shit and that could easily backfire with a bad season. Yes, it could work out but I'm not hanging my hat on Randle and Beal.
Totally fair. I don't want to deal RJB either. I don't even know if I want to deal assets for Beal at all, but I think we need be open minded to what could lie ahead if they dealt for Beal or any other star. There's no way the Knicks deal for Beal and then just stop making moves. They'd still have room for more.
An injury, a bad season, etc. and what max will want to sign here? I love the direction this team is going. And I will say this a million times. This is the NBA, stars are available multiple times every year. Trying to go with the quick fix now is shortsighted. I think Obi can be a really good player for us. Why would I want to sell him for pennies on the dollar? Why would I want to give up on RJ when he would be one of the youngest players in this upcoming draft? RJ's ceiling is great. Why can't we be patient and keep developing our players?
Trade for BEal. Sign BAll. Have room for more in 2022.
Tell me that team goes nowhere.
RE: RE: I'm selling a gutted team with Randle and Beal short.
An injury, a bad season, etc. and what max will want to sign here? I love the direction this team is going. And I will say this a million times. This is the NBA, stars are available multiple times every year. Trying to go with the quick fix now is shortsighted. I think Obi can be a really good player for us. Why would I want to sell him for pennies on the dollar? Why would I want to give up on RJ when he would be one of the youngest players in this upcoming draft? RJ's ceiling is great. Why can't we be patient and keep developing our players?
Trade for BEal. Sign BAll. Have room for more in 2022.
Tell me that team goes nowhere.
I'd rather wait on the $ for next year than pay Lonzo ~$20M/year if they're going to trade for Beal. With Beal and Randle in NYC they'd be one of, if not the top destination for stars looking to get out so I'd want to keep a max or near max spot open.
dont see any way they sign Ball, nor should they. He's a glorified 3/D guy. Need more than that out of a lead guard. There's a reason the Pelicans are ready to let him walk.
Knicks trade 19, Knox to NOLA for Bledsoe and 10th pick.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
dont see any way they sign Ball, nor should they. He's a glorified 3/D guy. Need more than that out of a lead guard. There's a reason the Pelicans are ready to let him walk.
By all indications so far, they're not all that interested in him. I disagree though with that premise. I'm still skeptical the Pelicans let him walk but if they do it will be because they want cap flexibility to pair Zion with another star which if they pay Lonzo ~$20M will be impossible without trading Ingram.
Knicks trade 19, Knox to NOLA for Bledsoe and 10th pick.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
I would do that yeah. Dont think the Raptors would touch it though.
Randle and Beal with Thibs coaching isn't exactly chopped liver. We're talking two of the more explosive offensive [players in the NBA. Both well under 30. Both receiving great coaching and playing on a team that has more room to add talent.
We can wait. We can sit on RJB or IQ and Obi and all these picks and see what comes of it, but that comes with risk too. And I don't agree that stars spring free every year. Guys like Beal are not available every year. He's well under 30 and averaging 30 and might be available. That's rare.
Knicks trade 19, Knox to NOLA for Bledsoe and 10th pick.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
it's not enough to move up to #1. Maybe if this was the Anthony Bennett draft year. But you don't see trades like this in the NBA because the probability of getting a star or solid regular drastically decreases the further you move down in the lottery.
For picks and expiring deals.
They need a total rebuild and the time is right for it.
They finally got out of the Wall deal and they can go the thunder route and build a ton of picks and cap room.
They can't win with those 2 and no one is coming to Washington to play with them.
Knicks trade 19, Knox to NOLA for Bledsoe and 10th pick.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
it's not enough to move up to #1. Maybe if this was the Anthony Bennett draft year. But you don't see trades like this in the NBA because the probability of getting a star or solid regular drastically decreases the further you move down in the lottery.
Yeah but in this scenario its moving up from 10th to 4th overall- 6 spots. And you are including the 21st overall pick, the Dallas pick in 2023 and Toppin. I think it would take another future 1st round pick but Toronto probably still says no. I think its unlikely but I don't think its an unreasonable offer...
Knicks trade 19, Knox to NOLA for Bledsoe and 10th pick.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
it's not enough to move up to #1. Maybe if this was the Anthony Bennett draft year. But you don't see trades like this in the NBA because the probability of getting a star or solid regular drastically decreases the further you move down in the lottery.
Yeah but in this scenario its moving up from 10th to 4th overall- 6 spots. And you are including the 21st overall pick, the Dallas pick in 2023 and Toppin. I think it would take another future 1st round pick but Toronto probably still says no. I think its unlikely but I don't think its an unreasonable offer...
ah, my mistake. Moving to 4 from 10 is obviously more realistic. That might actually be close to a fair offer.
RE: So the Golden State stars are pressuring management
to make a big splash - specifically Beal - and suddenly Beal is considering a trade request this week? I think we know where this one is headed….
Man, as a GS fan I don't really want this. I would leave to have a chance to see Jordan Poole, Wiseman, and either 1 or 2 rookies they draft develop.
Tough spot to be in, do you build vets around Klay, Curry, and Green for one more run or build kids around them for the future.
Curry is 34, Klay and Green are 31 it looks like GS is in win now mode.
but I don't know why Beal would agree to go to the Knicks (no offense). Seems like a lateral move at best.
Washington only has Westbrook and Bertans with very little young talent
The Knicks are a better option with Randle, RJ and cap space.
But is there any realistic road to the (conference) finals in the near future for him. In Philadelphia and Miami and potentially even Boston, he likely could see at least an opening with him on the team.
but I don't know why Beal would agree to go to the Knicks (no offense). Seems like a lateral move at best.
Washington only has Westbrook and Bertans with very little young talent
The Knicks are a better option with Randle, RJ and cap space.
But is there any realistic road to the (conference) finals in the near future for him. In Philadelphia and Miami and potentially even Boston, he likely could see at least an opening with him on the team.
Knicks would also habe cap space to either add a 3rd star or 2 very good players..
Philly, miami and Boston would be capped out
RE: RE: RE: So the Golden State stars are pressuring management
to make a big splash - specifically Beal - and suddenly Beal is considering a trade request this week? I think we know where this one is headed….
Man, as a GS fan I don't really want this. I would leave to have a chance to see Jordan Poole, Wiseman, and either 1 or 2 rookies they draft develop.
Tough spot to be in, do you build vets around Klay, Curry, and Green for one more run or build kids around them for the future.
Curry is 34, Klay and Green are 31 it looks like GS is in win now mode.
Right, and it's certainly no guarantee that Klay will return to form an be a contributor. I get it from a win-now perspective.
I just think it's super gratifying to watch player development from my seat as a fan, and I just don't want Wiseman to go anywhere.
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BREAKING: Memphis is finalizing a trade to send Jonas Valanciunas and 2021 Nos. 17 and 51 picks to New Orleans for Steven Adams, Eric Bledsoe, 2021 picks Nos. 10 and 40 and a protected 2022 first-round pick via the Lakers, sources tell ESPN.
if you think he is going to be a star you 100% keep him, but if you think he is just going to be a good player eventually he will become kverpaid...
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
I wish I knew. Gun to head I think RJB becomes a star, but it's a tough one to figure. I love that he became a good spot up 3 pt shooter. Can he take yet another leap? As of now he's a solid player.
I'd make the call on De'Anthony Melton. Memphis now has Morant, Bledsoe, and Melton, plus a very serviceable Tyus Jones (I'd ask about him too) #Knicks
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BREAKING: Memphis is finalizing a trade to send Jonas Valanciunas and 2021 Nos. 17 and 51 picks to New Orleans for Steven Adams, Eric Bledsoe, 2021 picks Nos. 10 and 40 and a protected 2022 first-round pick via the Lakers, sources tell ESPN.
I just read that 5x and I still can't figure out what's happening in this deal.
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New Orleans creates salary cap space for August that allows them to either match an offer sheet on Lonzo Ball, or have the cap space to pursue a significant free agent point guard, including Kyle Lowry and others. Pels liked Valanciunas as floor spacer at center over Adams, too.
New Orleans must feel like they have a good shot at landing Lowry
if you think he is going to be a star you 100% keep him, but if you think he is just going to be a good player eventually he will become kverpaid...
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
I wish I knew. Gun to head I think RJB becomes a star, but it's a tough one to figure. I love that he became a good spot up 3 pt shooter. Can he take yet another leap? As of now he's a solid player.
I hope you're right but the below average handle and average athleticism concern me. By all accounts his work ethic/attitude are great - so I'm confident he's going to achieve the best possible version of himself, but I just don't know what the ceiling is. What star player might he compare to?
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are so scared of making that trade or signing. not every trade is Melo all over again.
The Knicks have a shit load of assets and room to operate. There's risks in dealing for a star, there's also risks in not doing so and sticking with all these kids.
If you can trade one of RJB and IQ and a bunch of young crap for Beal and STILL have room to add 1-2 max players and re-sign Randle? What am I missing here? That team contends.
Because we may have a star in Barrett. What he has done at 20 is remarkable. And Beal is good but not a superstar. Beal and Randle aren't winning shit and that could easily backfire with a bad season. Yes, it could work out but I'm not hanging my hat on Randle and Beal.
Selling Beal a little short here no?
This isn't aimed at you specifically but some Knicks fans seem way to reluctant to make a trade. No players are perfect and homegrown guys always seem to be overrated by the fanbase. But you win in the NBA with the top players and if you have a chance to get a top 15-20 guy, in my opinion you do what it takes to land them.
Just look at 3 of the recent top 10 picks on the roster. Picks and young players can be vastly overrated...
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How does that work?
up until the new leaguebyear they operate under the salary for the previous year..
when a player is traded it is based on last season not next year..
But what does that matter for the Knicks? They are under the cap so it sounds like it doesn't carry over like the NFL. So what is the advantage of it? I can see if a team has more space for right now and is over the cap come Thursday but I don't see how that helps us.
because you can make a deal now that other teams cant, so before the draft it gives them more flexibility in trades..
Give me an example.
so for example Bledsoe and 10 for 19...knicks could make that deal now based off of 16.7 million rather than his 18 next year and have that pick if they want to keep it or flip it..
rather than waiting until free agency and making it more complicated during the draft to flip the 10th pick..
But, like I said, it doesn't really matter if it was last year's rules or this year's rules. We'd be able to make that move. I don't see that as an advantage for anyone outside of a team that was under the cap to being over the cap the following year. I get what you are saying. It is just beneficial as opposed to other teams who aren't under the cap.
i guess more convenient than advantage..
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The two teams that could really shake things up are the Knicks and Thunder. Both have significant financial flexibility to absorb bad contracts as well as multiple picks to package and potentially move up. Their front offices will likely be busy fielding calls this week.
Your opinion of Obi might be different than theirs though. Imagine if they'd sold on Knox after his rookie year? He isn't going to get the minutes to really improve his trade value all that much anyways barring an injury to Randle. Unless they think Obi can be an all-star (doubtful) then now is a good time to trade him while he's still got 3 years left on his rookie deal.
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are so scared of making that trade or signing. not every trade is Melo all over again.
The Knicks have a shit load of assets and room to operate. There's risks in dealing for a star, there's also risks in not doing so and sticking with all these kids.
If you can trade one of RJB and IQ and a bunch of young crap for Beal and STILL have room to add 1-2 max players and re-sign Randle? What am I missing here? That team contends.
Because we may have a star in Barrett. What he has done at 20 is remarkable. And Beal is good but not a superstar. Beal and Randle aren't winning shit and that could easily backfire with a bad season. Yes, it could work out but I'm not hanging my hat on Randle and Beal.
Totally fair. I don't want to deal RJB either. I don't even know if I want to deal assets for Beal at all, but I think we need be open minded to what could lie ahead if they dealt for Beal or any other star. There's no way the Knicks deal for Beal and then just stop making moves. They'd still have room for more.
"Beal and Randle aren't winning shit"
No kidding?
If we trade for BEal, that doesn't mean the team is finished product and it's all on with Randle, Beal and pray for rain.
Trading for Beal isn't the final move!!
Trade for BEal. Sign BAll. Have room for more in 2022.
Tell me that team goes nowhere.
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An injury, a bad season, etc. and what max will want to sign here? I love the direction this team is going. And I will say this a million times. This is the NBA, stars are available multiple times every year. Trying to go with the quick fix now is shortsighted. I think Obi can be a really good player for us. Why would I want to sell him for pennies on the dollar? Why would I want to give up on RJ when he would be one of the youngest players in this upcoming draft? RJ's ceiling is great. Why can't we be patient and keep developing our players?
Trade for BEal. Sign BAll. Have room for more in 2022.
Tell me that team goes nowhere.
I'd rather wait on the $ for next year than pay Lonzo ~$20M/year if they're going to trade for Beal. With Beal and Randle in NYC they'd be one of, if not the top destination for stars looking to get out so I'd want to keep a max or near max spot open.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
By all indications so far, they're not all that interested in him. I disagree though with that premise. I'm still skeptical the Pelicans let him walk but if they do it will be because they want cap flexibility to pair Zion with another star which if they pay Lonzo ~$20M will be impossible without trading Ingram.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
I would do that yeah. Dont think the Raptors would touch it though.
Point is, Beal wouldn't be the final move here. Not by a long shot.
We can wait. We can sit on RJB or IQ and Obi and all these picks and see what comes of it, but that comes with risk too. And I don't agree that stars spring free every year. Guys like Beal are not available every year. He's well under 30 and averaging 30 and might be available. That's rare.
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
it's not enough to move up to #1. Maybe if this was the Anthony Bennett draft year. But you don't see trades like this in the NBA because the probability of getting a star or solid regular drastically decreases the further you move down in the lottery.
They need a total rebuild and the time is right for it.
They finally got out of the Wall deal and they can go the thunder route and build a ton of picks and cap room.
They can't win with those 2 and no one is coming to Washington to play with them.
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Knicks trade 19, Knox to NOLA for Bledsoe and 10th pick.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
it's not enough to move up to #1. Maybe if this was the Anthony Bennett draft year. But you don't see trades like this in the NBA because the probability of getting a star or solid regular drastically decreases the further you move down in the lottery.
Yeah but in this scenario its moving up from 10th to 4th overall- 6 spots. And you are including the 21st overall pick, the Dallas pick in 2023 and Toppin. I think it would take another future 1st round pick but Toronto probably still says no. I think its unlikely but I don't think its an unreasonable offer...
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Knicks trade 19, Knox to NOLA for Bledsoe and 10th pick.
Knicks trade 10th pick, 21st pick, Dallas 23 pick and Obi to Toronto for the 4th overall pick to take Suggs.
Any chance Toronto does that? Would you do that? I would guess it would take another future 1st for Toronto to even think about it. I am personally just very high on Suggs.
it's not enough to move up to #1. Maybe if this was the Anthony Bennett draft year. But you don't see trades like this in the NBA because the probability of getting a star or solid regular drastically decreases the further you move down in the lottery.
Yeah but in this scenario its moving up from 10th to 4th overall- 6 spots. And you are including the 21st overall pick, the Dallas pick in 2023 and Toppin. I think it would take another future 1st round pick but Toronto probably still says no. I think its unlikely but I don't think its an unreasonable offer...
ah, my mistake. Moving to 4 from 10 is obviously more realistic. That might actually be close to a fair offer.
Man, as a GS fan I don't really want this. I would leave to have a chance to see Jordan Poole, Wiseman, and either 1 or 2 rookies they draft develop.
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to make a big splash - specifically Beal - and suddenly Beal is considering a trade request this week? I think we know where this one is headed….
Man, as a GS fan I don't really want this. I would leave to have a chance to see Jordan Poole, Wiseman, and either 1 or 2 rookies they draft develop.
Tough spot to be in, do you build vets around Klay, Curry, and Green for one more run or build kids around them for the future.
Curry is 34, Klay and Green are 31 it looks like GS is in win now mode.
Washington only has Westbrook and Bertans with very little young talent
The Knicks are a better option with Randle, RJ and cap space.
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but I don't know why Beal would agree to go to the Knicks (no offense). Seems like a lateral move at best.
Washington only has Westbrook and Bertans with very little young talent
The Knicks are a better option with Randle, RJ and cap space.
But is there any realistic road to the (conference) finals in the near future for him. In Philadelphia and Miami and potentially even Boston, he likely could see at least an opening with him on the team.
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but I don't know why Beal would agree to go to the Knicks (no offense). Seems like a lateral move at best.
Washington only has Westbrook and Bertans with very little young talent
The Knicks are a better option with Randle, RJ and cap space.
But is there any realistic road to the (conference) finals in the near future for him. In Philadelphia and Miami and potentially even Boston, he likely could see at least an opening with him on the team.
Knicks would also habe cap space to either add a 3rd star or 2 very good players..
Philly, miami and Boston would be capped out
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to make a big splash - specifically Beal - and suddenly Beal is considering a trade request this week? I think we know where this one is headed….
Man, as a GS fan I don't really want this. I would leave to have a chance to see Jordan Poole, Wiseman, and either 1 or 2 rookies they draft develop.
Tough spot to be in, do you build vets around Klay, Curry, and Green for one more run or build kids around them for the future.
Curry is 34, Klay and Green are 31 it looks like GS is in win now mode.
Right, and it's certainly no guarantee that Klay will return to form an be a contributor. I get it from a win-now perspective.
I just think it's super gratifying to watch player development from my seat as a fan, and I just don't want Wiseman to go anywhere.
Its funny, I had the same comp in my head. He's not an exact match but so many similarities.
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BREAKING: Memphis is finalizing a trade to send Jonas Valanciunas and 2021 Nos. 17 and 51 picks to New Orleans for Steven Adams, Eric Bledsoe, 2021 picks Nos. 10 and 40 and a protected 2022 first-round pick via the Lakers, sources tell ESPN.
wow taking on both Adams and Bledsoe
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
I wish I knew. Gun to head I think RJB becomes a star, but it's a tough one to figure. I love that he became a good spot up 3 pt shooter. Can he take yet another leap? As of now he's a solid player.
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BREAKING: Memphis is finalizing a trade to send Jonas Valanciunas and 2021 Nos. 17 and 51 picks to New Orleans for Steven Adams, Eric Bledsoe, 2021 picks Nos. 10 and 40 and a protected 2022 first-round pick via the Lakers, sources tell ESPN.
I just read that 5x and I still can't figure out what's happening in this deal.
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New Orleans creates salary cap space for August that allows them to either match an offer sheet on Lonzo Ball, or have the cap space to pursue a significant free agent point guard, including Kyle Lowry and others. Pels liked Valanciunas as floor spacer at center over Adams, too.
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if you think he is going to be a star you 100% keep him, but if you think he is just going to be a good player eventually he will become kverpaid...
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
I wish I knew. Gun to head I think RJB becomes a star, but it's a tough one to figure. I love that he became a good spot up 3 pt shooter. Can he take yet another leap? As of now he's a solid player.
I hope you're right but the below average handle and average athleticism concern me. By all accounts his work ethic/attitude are great - so I'm confident he's going to achieve the best possible version of himself, but I just don't know what the ceiling is. What star player might he compare to?
It's rumored he's indicated they are his first choice.
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Per @KevinOConnorNBA
, the Knicks will offer Kyle Lowry a short term deal.
probably would bave to be 2 years 70 million to have a shot if 3 years 90 is what he thinks he can get
id rather try to spread out the cap hit as much as possible
No chance. Two years, sure but he's 35 years old. His play could fall off a cliff at any time.
fuck no.
Forget the quality of play, I just don't think he'll play anything close to 82 games.