if you think he is going to be a star you 100% keep him, but if you think he is just going to be a good player eventually he will become kverpaid...
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
I wish I knew. Gun to head I think RJB becomes a star, but it's a tough one to figure. I love that he became a good spot up 3 pt shooter. Can he take yet another leap? As of now he's a solid player.
I hope you're right but the below average handle and average athleticism concern me. By all accounts his work ethic/attitude are great - so I'm confident he's going to achieve the best possible version of himself, but I just don't know what the ceiling is. What star player might he compare to?
I was hoping someone else would come up with one lol. I guess Jimmy butler has a better handle? Paul Pierce? The lack of explosiveness is a concern to be sure. And he’s not exactly a dead eye shooter.
I can be swayed either way on RJ. What I do love is how he fills the box score and defends. That should only improve as he progresses but his scoring prowess and potential? Who knows...maybe what you see is what you get?
if you think he is going to be a star you 100% keep him, but if you think he is just going to be a good player eventually he will become kverpaid...
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
I wish I knew. Gun to head I think RJB becomes a star, but it's a tough one to figure. I love that he became a good spot up 3 pt shooter. Can he take yet another leap? As of now he's a solid player.
I hope you're right but the below average handle and average athleticism concern me. By all accounts his work ethic/attitude are great - so I'm confident he's going to achieve the best possible version of himself, but I just don't know what the ceiling is. What star player might he compare to?
I was hoping someone else would come up with one lol. I guess Jimmy butler has a better handle? Paul Pierce? The lack of explosiveness is a concern to be sure. And he’s not exactly a dead eye shooter.
I can be swayed either way on RJ. What I do love is how he fills the box score and defends. That should only improve as he progresses but his scoring prowess and potential? Who knows...maybe what you see is what you get?
RJ started the season off miserably from 3. The second half of the season he was as “dead eye” as any player in the league. It’s strange to me that we put stigmas on 20 year old based more on what they do early than late. I feel like no matter how well Barrett shoots at this point, he will always be questioned on his shooting ability. He was 20. And improved significantly over an extended period of time
That usually leads to problems. Trying to outdo last offseason. Patience please fellas.
That’s been their pattern over the years - new regime plays it conservative in year one and then panics a bit if a quick fix doesn’t present itself by year two. Difference this time is this regime actually had success in year one - hopefully that allows them to be more prudent.
Mitchell's stock is plummeting. Can anyone figure out why? He's not huge and he's a senior but those things were known all along. If he gets to the mid teens we should jump all over that.
Cleveland for Sexton? Indy makes sense as they have pick 13. The rumors for awhile were we want a lottery pick and we want a pick in the early teens. That means picks 13 and 14. We know GS supposedly likes Murphy and Duarte so if we can't get 14 then we have to get above that. However, Murphy seems like he could possibly go earlier, like top 10 possible.
that would trump multi year offers per Matt Moore from The Action Network Link - ( New Window )
Are the Knicks not linked to every player available.
Now it's Lowery and DeRozan big 1 year deals.
I don't hate it with the FA available in 2022.
Lowery, RJ, DeRozan, Randle, and Robinson is a solid 5.
For 1 year.
Plus draft well and have plenty of cap in 2022.
For any team searching to trade into the lottery—whispers of New York’s interest continue—their highest opportunity may be at Sacramento’s pick. The Kings at No. 9, and Pelicans, holding No. 10, have been active in trade conversations, sources said. Both teams seek to add veterans to bolster their respective playoff pushes. Both the Hornets and Pacers, the two Eastern Conference play-in teams who did not advance, would seemingly have interest in moving their picks at Nos. 11 and 13, respectively. 1 day ago – via Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report
RE: RE: Let’s just say only name I’m not hearing is Ball.
I call bullshit on that. They probably won't have enough space. They, imo, are done with Ball. They did this to go all in on Lowry and go after some smaller pieces.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Let’s just say only name I’m not hearing is Ball.
I call bullshit on that. They probably won't have enough space. They, imo, are done with Ball. They did this to go all in on Lowry and go after some smaller pieces.
They have 36 million available if they let Hart and Ball walk.
25 million if they resign Hart which ESPN say they are trying to do.
That doesn't leave enough for Lowery.(25 million)
25 million does get them the match for Ball. Just ESPN speculation.
They treated Ball like Obi where they would just have them stay in the corner of the court most of the time. Zion dominated the ball and Ball was just there so to speak. They aren't paying him 20 mil per. If he gets low-balled then maybe that changes things.
Also, the reports that were out were that they'd sign Lowry and Ball and that is BS imo.
Trade could be Rj, Obi, Knox, Mitch, 19,21, 22 swap, 23 1st..
still have 40 to 45 million in cap space, still would have a 1st every year except this year..
That trade is horrific. Rj, Obi and Mitch? Come on Beal is just not that much of a difference maker. You could almost sell me Dame for that because the balm is in his hands all game and he's pretty much a regular threat from 35 feet and in.
obi is nothing, the only reason he is worth anything is because he was a 1st round oick last year..
Mitch is due for a pay day, you oaying him 12 to 15 million a year? Knicks were fine without him..
So, Noel is a FA who already has said he's going to the highest bidder & although he was great last year,playing extended minutes got him hurt on numerous occasions, so I doubt he's back.He also wants to be a starter. Now,some team will pay him to do so, but it won't be the Knicks. So,without Mitch, our centers are Gibson(37 & hopefully returning) & Norvel Pelle. So,will the Knicks be fine without Mitch & those 2 being the centers????
Knicks offered 19 and 21 to the warrios for 14 and they turned it down, whoch is not surprising because i am sure warriors are trying to use 7 and 14 to trade for a vet
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They offered him and 6 for the first pick. We aren't getting him.
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Cade Cunningham has been the public favorite to go No. 1 to the Detroit Pistons since the lottery. While Detroit is surely doing its due diligence, is there any reason to doubt that Cunningham will be the first name we hear on Thursday night? Matt Babcock: I expect Cade Cunningham to be the top overall pick in this draft, selected by the Detroit Pistons. However, I’ve been told that the Houston Rockets and Oklahoma City Thunder have been knocking the Pistons’ door down. Rumor has it that the Thunder offered the No. 6 pick and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander in exchange for No. 1 — the Pistons declined. If the Pistons receive an offer better than that one, they may need to seriously consider it. 3 hours ago – via Ethan Fuller @ basketballnews.com
Cade Cunningham has been the public favorite to go No. 1 to the Detroit Pistons since the lottery. While Detroit is surely doing its due diligence, is there any reason to doubt that Cunningham will be the first name we hear on Thursday night? Matt Babcock: I expect Cade Cunningham to be the top overall pick in this draft, selected by the Detroit Pistons. However, I’ve been told that the Houston Rockets and Oklahoma City Thunder have been knocking the Pistons’ door down. Rumor has it that the Thunder offered the No. 6 pick and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander in exchange for No. 1 — the Pistons declined. If the Pistons receive an offer better than that one, they may need to seriously consider it. 3 hours ago – via Ethan Fuller @ basketballnews.com
That means any higher and we are probably offering more.
Knicks offered 19 and 21 to the warrios for 14 and they turned it down, whoch is not surprising because i am sure warriors are trying to use 7 and 14 to trade for a vet
There was a report yesterday that GS was having no luck trading those picks so as of 2:00 yesterday they planned on making those picks. The report said that maybe at 2:45 that could change because you never know. But, yeah, why would GS want more draft picks lower in the draft. They don't seem like an ideal candidate.
Knicks offered 19 and 21 to the warrios for 14 and they turned it down, whoch is not surprising because i am sure warriors are trying to use 7 and 14 to trade for a vet
There was a report yesterday that GS was having no luck trading those picks so as of 2:00 yesterday they planned on making those picks. The report said that maybe at 2:45 that could change because you never know. But, yeah, why would GS want more draft picks lower in the draft. They don't seem like an ideal candidate.
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The Knicks are interested in signing Kyle Lowry to a 2-year deal ranging between $20-30M per year.
The Knicks are also pursuing Evan Fournier & Spencer Dinwiddie. Fournier was mentioned to be on the Knicks radar during the trade deadline.
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if you think he is going to be a star you 100% keep him, but if you think he is just going to be a good player eventually he will become kverpaid...
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
I wish I knew. Gun to head I think RJB becomes a star, but it's a tough one to figure. I love that he became a good spot up 3 pt shooter. Can he take yet another leap? As of now he's a solid player.
I hope you're right but the below average handle and average athleticism concern me. By all accounts his work ethic/attitude are great - so I'm confident he's going to achieve the best possible version of himself, but I just don't know what the ceiling is. What star player might he compare to?
I was hoping someone else would come up with one lol. I guess Jimmy butler has a better handle? Paul Pierce? The lack of explosiveness is a concern to be sure. And he’s not exactly a dead eye shooter.
I can be swayed either way on RJ. What I do love is how he fills the box score and defends. That should only improve as he progresses but his scoring prowess and potential? Who knows...maybe what you see is what you get?
God no. He has a ring &-I suspect-is just looking for one more payday.
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if you think he is going to be a star you 100% keep him, but if you think he is just going to be a good player eventually he will become kverpaid...
As for Toppin sometimes players are more valuable as a trade asset than a player on your team and in Toppin's case i think it is trade asset..
I wish I knew. Gun to head I think RJB becomes a star, but it's a tough one to figure. I love that he became a good spot up 3 pt shooter. Can he take yet another leap? As of now he's a solid player.
I hope you're right but the below average handle and average athleticism concern me. By all accounts his work ethic/attitude are great - so I'm confident he's going to achieve the best possible version of himself, but I just don't know what the ceiling is. What star player might he compare to?
I was hoping someone else would come up with one lol. I guess Jimmy butler has a better handle? Paul Pierce? The lack of explosiveness is a concern to be sure. And he’s not exactly a dead eye shooter.
I can be swayed either way on RJ. What I do love is how he fills the box score and defends. That should only improve as he progresses but his scoring prowess and potential? Who knows...maybe what you see is what you get?
RJ started the season off miserably from 3. The second half of the season he was as “dead eye” as any player in the league. It’s strange to me that we put stigmas on 20 year old based more on what they do early than late. I feel like no matter how well Barrett shoots at this point, he will always be questioned on his shooting ability. He was 20. And improved significantly over an extended period of time
It depends what that something is and what they give uo
I know you had some info before. Anything more you've heard?
That’s been their pattern over the years - new regime plays it conservative in year one and then panics a bit if a quick fix doesn’t present itself by year two. Difference this time is this regime actually had success in year one - hopefully that allows them to be more prudent.
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Sounds like Ball to Chicago is gaining steam
Why do you have to be so cryptic with you posts? Just say what you want to say.
Are the Knicks not linked to every player available.
Now it's Lowery and DeRozan big 1 year deals.
I don't hate it with the FA available in 2022.
Lowery, RJ, DeRozan, Randle, and Robinson is a solid 5.
For 1 year.
Plus draft well and have plenty of cap in 2022.
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Sounds like Ball to Chicago is gaining steam
Rumor is that NO cleared cap to match Ball offers
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Sounds like Ball to Chicago is gaining steam
Rumor is that NO cleared cap to match Ball offers
they are going hard after Lowry, they didnt need to clear cap to match Ball
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Sounds like Ball to Chicago is gaining steam
Rumor is that NO cleared cap to match Ball offers
I call bullshit on that. They probably won't have enough space. They, imo, are done with Ball. They did this to go all in on Lowry and go after some smaller pieces.
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Sounds like Ball to Chicago is gaining steam
Rumor is that NO cleared cap to match Ball offers
I call bullshit on that. They probably won't have enough space. They, imo, are done with Ball. They did this to go all in on Lowry and go after some smaller pieces.
They have 36 million available if they let Hart and Ball walk.
25 million if they resign Hart which ESPN say they are trying to do.
That doesn't leave enough for Lowery.(25 million)
25 million does get them the match for Ball. Just ESPN speculation.
Also, the reports that were out were that they'd sign Lowry and Ball and that is BS imo.
Holy shit. This deserves its own thread larry.
Sorry fake account.
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Sorry fake account.
Said Toronto turned the deal down
Haha. No offense but who would believe that. Hahahahaha. Simmons is afraid to shoot and is embarrassed to work on his shot.
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Trade could be Rj, Obi, Knox, Mitch, 19,21, 22 swap, 23 1st..
still have 40 to 45 million in cap space, still would have a 1st every year except this year..
That trade is horrific. Rj, Obi and Mitch? Come on Beal is just not that much of a difference maker. You could almost sell me Dame for that because the balm is in his hands all game and he's pretty much a regular threat from 35 feet and in.
obi is nothing, the only reason he is worth anything is because he was a 1st round oick last year..
Mitch is due for a pay day, you oaying him 12 to 15 million a year? Knicks were fine without him..
So, Noel is a FA who already has said he's going to the highest bidder & although he was great last year,playing extended minutes got him hurt on numerous occasions, so I doubt he's back.He also wants to be a starter. Now,some team will pay him to do so, but it won't be the Knicks. So,without Mitch, our centers are Gibson(37 & hopefully returning) & Norvel Pelle. So,will the Knicks be fine without Mitch & those 2 being the centers????
That would have been a complete heist by Philly. I still feel we are heading for a Simmons for Lillard trade.
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"'It's going to take a f--king lot to get him, but he's no longer impossible to get,' said one team executive
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This is the guy to get.
They offered him and 6 for the first pick. We aren't getting him.
That means any higher and we are probably offering more.
There was a report yesterday that GS was having no luck trading those picks so as of 2:00 yesterday they planned on making those picks. The report said that maybe at 2:45 that could change because you never know. But, yeah, why would GS want more draft picks lower in the draft. They don't seem like an ideal candidate.
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Knicks offered 19 and 21 to the warrios for 14 and they turned it down, whoch is not surprising because i am sure warriors are trying to use 7 and 14 to trade for a vet
There was a report yesterday that GS was having no luck trading those picks so as of 2:00 yesterday they planned on making those picks. The report said that maybe at 2:45 that could change because you never know. But, yeah, why would GS want more draft picks lower in the draft. They don't seem like an ideal candidate.
yeah they arent a team looking for more picks..
No but I'd give everything up to that.
Mitch, Obi, Picks, IQ, all on the table.
I'd do it. I like both players about equally, but it's harder to get a good point guard than a good wing.
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The Knicks are interested in signing Kyle Lowry to a 2-year deal ranging between $20-30M per year.
The Knicks are also pursuing Evan Fournier & Spencer Dinwiddie. Fournier was mentioned to be on the Knicks radar during the trade deadline.