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nygiants16 : 7/24/2021 11:02 am
according to Jake Fischer, says he kbows he has to make a decision before thursday
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2021 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15314520 nygiants16 said:
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I've moved off the Lillard train.



until he officially asks out? lol


Haha. Perhaps. He's a fantastic talent who is under contract for awhile. And he'd be the toast of NYC. A 1-2 of Dame & Randle is a damn good one...the one thing holding me back is his age. He's what, 31? & I'm also worried about selling the farm for him & the roster, outside of him & JR, just becoming depleted.

Gun to head, I think he ends up a 76er.
Jokic/Lillard would be awesome  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/27/2021 7:30 pm : link
Lillard is basically a clearly better version of "Bubble" Jamal Murray, and we saw how good that Murray/Jokic combo was.

Lillard can't move off-ball like Curry does, but I think part of that is because Curry has Draymond and Lillard never had anything like that. Jokic being able to fill that role and then some could open up a whole new aspect to Lillard's game. He still won't be Steph, but he could be even closer than he already is.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2021 7:35 pm : link
Osi, if somehow Denver ended up with Dame, that's the Western favorites next season. I still think the Nuggets might have won the West if Murray doesn't get injured. That was a huge loss for them.
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Strahan91 : 7/27/2021 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15314538 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Osi, if somehow Denver ended up with Dame, that's the Western favorites next season. I still think the Nuggets might have won the West if Murray doesn't get injured. That was a huge loss for them.

Hard to see them trading him to a team in their division. Not to mention the optics of demanding a trade to the team that just eliminated you is very KD-like.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2021 7:43 pm : link
Strahan, I thought the same. I can't imagine the Portland FO would want to trade Dame-their biggest star since Drexler-to a team in their division, though I know divisions mean nothing in the NBA in 2021. Unless Denver has best offer, I gotta imagine the Blazers-if having to trade Dame-would like to see him go East to us, the 76ers, Celts, etc.
Berman says Thibs loves McBride.  
bceagle05 : 7/27/2021 7:51 pm : link
Not the least bit surprised. I hope they take him.
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BigBlueShock : 7/27/2021 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15314529 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I've moved off the Lillard train.



until he officially asks out? lol



Haha. Perhaps. He's a fantastic talent who is under contract for awhile. And he'd be the toast of NYC. A 1-2 of Dame & Randle is a damn good one...the one thing holding me back is his age. He's what, 31? & I'm also worried about selling the farm for him & the roster, outside of him & JR, just becoming depleted.

Gun to head, I think he ends up a 76er.

I mean, I guess it’s possible. But I haven’t gotten the impression, based solely on things I read daily, that NBA teams are as enamored with Simmons as the Sixers ((or BBI) think they should be. I guess we shall see who is right.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2021 8:33 pm : link
BBS, I've heard on some pods that NBA executives are much higher on Simmons than public @ large. If the man can ever develop a shot...but that's been a ? for awhile now.
I am done with the Dame  
larryflower37 : 7/27/2021 9:01 pm : link
To Knicks.
First part do the Knicks blow the whole off-season on keeping space available for Dame for the opportunity to get him?
2nd do you move on and sign for example Lowery, DeRozan, fournier,etc and blow the chance at Dame?
Can you sign guys and still pull of a deal for Dame?
RE: Berman says Thibs loves McBride.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/27/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15314546 bceagle05 said:
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Not the least bit surprised. I hope they take him.


I'd be very happy staying put and taking:

19. Trey Murphy of he somehow makes it there
21. Isaiah Jackson
32. Miles McBride

I just watched some breakdowns of him. Great defensive PG with a nice jumper to score from all 3 levels.
The Knicks called the cavs  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 8:51 am : link
to move up to number 3..
RE: RE: Berman says Thibs loves McBride.  
Jon in NYC : 7/28/2021 8:54 am : link
In comment 15314662 robbieballs2003 said:
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Not the least bit surprised. I hope they take him.



I'd be very happy staying put and taking:

19. Trey Murphy of he somehow makes it there
21. Isaiah Jackson
32. Miles McBride

I just watched some breakdowns of him. Great defensive PG with a nice jumper to score from all 3 levels.


Would love this too but I think it's unrealistic. Doubt Murphy or McBride will be there at those spots.
RE: The Knicks called the cavs  
Jon in NYC : 7/28/2021 8:54 am : link
In comment 15314777 nygiants16 said:
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to move up to number 3..


Lol offering what?

I think Mobley is going to be an absolute stud. Would take him over Suggs tbh.
RE: RE: The Knicks called the cavs  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 8:55 am : link
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to move up to number 3..



Lol offering what?

I think Mobley is going to be an absolute stud. Would take him over Suggs tbh.


its from Michael Scotto..

My guess it was part of the sexton trade talks, Knicks offered to take love if they put in 3..

I would assume cavs then asked for Rj
RE: Berman says Thibs loves McBride.  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 8:56 am : link
In comment 15314546 bceagle05 said:
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Not the least bit surprised. I hope they take him.


He reminds me of Marcus Smart
I dont know if thr cavs would do this  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 9:06 am : link
Sexton 6, Love 31 and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st
RE: The Knicks called the cavs  
robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 9:08 am : link
In comment 15314777 nygiants16 said:
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to move up to number 3..


Suggs seems to be dropping which is weird to me. Seems he may be going 5 now.
RE: I dont know if thr cavs would do this  
robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 9:14 am : link
In comment 15314803 nygiants16 said:
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Sexton 6, Love 31 and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st


I have no idea what this means.
RE: RE: I dont know if thr cavs would do this  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 9:16 am : link
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Sexton 6, Love 31 and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st



I have no idea what this means.


the number next to the players is their cap hit
RE: Berman says Thibs loves McBride.  
Heisenberg : 7/28/2021 9:28 am : link
In comment 15314546 bceagle05 said:
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Not the least bit surprised. I hope they take him.


McBride and Garuba have to be the guys Thibs wants the most lol.
If the Knicks got the third pick  
robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 9:35 am : link
Who do you think their target is?
RE: If the Knicks got the third pick  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 9:36 am : link
In comment 15314864 robbieballs2003 said:
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Who do you think their target is?


I woukd think Suggs
Cade, Mobley, Green > Suggs imo  
Heisenberg : 7/28/2021 9:39 am : link
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RE: I dont know if thr cavs would do this  
larryflower37 : 7/28/2021 9:53 am : link
In comment 15314803 nygiants16 said:
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Sexton 6, Love 31 and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st


This is a horrible trade for the Knicks.
RE: The Knicks called the cavs  
robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 9:55 am : link
In comment 15314777 nygiants16 said:
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to move up to number 3..


Where did you see this? I don't see it anywhere.
RE: RE: The Knicks called the cavs  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 9:56 am : link
In comment 15314916 robbieballs2003 said:
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to move up to number 3..



Where did you see this? I don't see it anywhere.


Michael Scotto
RE: RE: I dont know if thr cavs would do this  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 9:59 am : link
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Sexton 6, Love 31 and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st



This is a horrible trade for the Knicks.


How is it horrible? you get Sexton and the 3rd overall pick for rj and cap space...

and still have 40 million in free agency..
RE: RE: RE: The Knicks called the cavs  
robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 10:02 am : link
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to move up to number 3..



Where did you see this? I don't see it anywhere.



Michael Scotto


I still don't see it anywhere
RE: RE: RE: RE: The Knicks called the cavs  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 10:04 am : link
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to move up to number 3..



Where did you see this? I don't see it anywhere.



Michael Scotto



I still don't see it anywhere


There is no shortage of suitors for the Cavaliers’ No. 3 overall pick in Thursday’s NBA Draft.Koby Altman
Per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype, the Raptors, Thunder, Warriors and Knicks have all reached out to the Cavs to discuss offers and move up.
Thanks  
robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 10:12 am : link
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I  
AcidTest : 7/28/2021 10:36 am : link
think there's just going to be a crazy number of trades.

It's looking like Murphy won't be available at #19. The question is whether the Knicks will move up to get him, and what they would have to give up to do so. I also agree that McBride likely won't be available at #32.
If that’s the trade  
Carl in CT : 7/28/2021 11:06 am : link
Knicks have to do it!
I have to say, it is pretty damn quiet.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 1:45 pm : link
Last year nobody had any clue about the trades they made. Tomorrow is going to be fun no matter what happens.
RE: I have to say, it is pretty damn quiet.  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15315283 robbieballs2003 said:
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Last year nobody had any clue about the trades they made. Tomorrow is going to be fun no matter what happens.


listening to Marc Stein's greenroom and he made the comment that the trade talk is crazy right now and very active, does that lead to a bunch of deals? who knows but it is very active..
RE: I have to say, it is pretty damn quiet.  
Heisenberg : 7/28/2021 2:01 pm : link
In comment 15315283 robbieballs2003 said:
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Last year nobody had any clue about the trades they made. Tomorrow is going to be fun no matter what happens.


The one thing we can expect is that they will make moves. Last year's maneuvering even just around the margins was proof of that. They have picks, cap room and are ready to party.
RE: I dont know if thr cavs would do this  
TyreeHelmet : 7/28/2021 2:02 pm : link
In comment 15314803 nygiants16 said:
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Sexton 6, Love 31 and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st


I think the Cavs would definitely do that deal.
Cavs apparently turned down an offer of  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 2:14 pm : link
Shai and 6 for number 3, if true, are they fucking stupid?
At the very least, I could see us swapping 19&32 for 15.  
bceagle05 : 7/28/2021 2:24 pm : link
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Tommy Sheppard says the Wizards “definitely want to get something in the second round.” Wizards enter tomorrow’s draft without a second-round pick. They will select at No. 15 in the first round.
RE: Cavs apparently turned down an offer of  
Strahan91 : 7/28/2021 2:55 pm : link
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Shai and 6 for number 3, if true, are they fucking stupid?

I have a hard time believing that was on the table.
shai  
hitdog42 : 7/28/2021 2:59 pm : link
was known to be on record saying ahead of draft in 18 that he did not want to play in cleveland.

lol  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2021 3:00 pm : link
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robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15315376 Strahan91 said:
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Shai and 6 for number 3, if true, are they fucking stupid?


I have a hard time believing that was on the table.


I saw that deal for pick 1 but not 3.
RE: lol  
robbieballs2003 : 7/28/2021 3:02 pm : link
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That is hysterical.
RE: shai  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15315385 hitdog42 said:
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was known to be on record saying ahead of draft in 18 that he did not want to play in cleveland.


that couldnt be on the table though right? even if the cavs flip Shai, that is a heist
RE: lol  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 3:07 pm : link
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Morey is drunk
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2021 3:17 pm : link
@jeremywoo has @knicks targeting Duarte and Jackson #Knicks
Love to see Jackson working with Payne  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 3:23 pm : link
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Good luck with that asking price  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 3:26 pm : link
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ESPN Sources: Sixers continue to canvass the league for Ben Simmons trades — armed with a steep asking price. Simmons and his agent, Klutch CEO Rich Paul, are in step with a move elsewhere. Draft night is always an ideal vehicle for a deal, but talks could continue into summer.
Simmons  
31southst : 7/28/2021 4:13 pm : link
I don't think that asking price is insane as an opening offer (obviously presuming you negotiate back off of it). Simmons being under contract 4 more years means there is more of a market for him as you don't need to immediately worry about resigning him.

What's more surprising to me is that Embiid's health over the long term is a question, so I would think the 76ers try to maximize their window now vs. get a huge pick trove (I understand they can then be used for a player).
RE: RE: lol  
djm : 7/28/2021 4:26 pm : link
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That is hysterical.


Double hysterical even.
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