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NFT: Blue Jays at Mets Game 2. Walker

ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 4:14 pm
Mets Lineup

CF Brandon Nimmo
1B Pete Alonso
LF Dominic Smith
3B J.D. Davis
C James McCann
SS Jonathan Villar
RF Kevin Pillar
2B Luis Guillorme
RHP Taijuan Walker

-Peterson transferred to 60 day IL. Now has a broken toe on top of his oblique strain.
-Drury is up with the Mets and might get activated for McNeil before game time.
-Mets acquire Mark Payton for cash considerations. Will be assigned to Syracuse
-Carrasco now expected to start in rehab game tomorrow in Syracuse (was considered to be activated)

LFGM!
Walker has scuffled  
jpkmets : 7/24/2021 4:21 pm : link
a bit. Would really love a strong start from him! Let’s go!
These injuries are the worst and seem to happen  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 4:29 pm : link
At the worst possible times. Lindor was red hot when he went down. McNeil was just seemingly putting it together before this thing now....

Just Ugh.
lol....  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 4:30 pm : link
Per Mojo Hill: Luis Rojas said he had no idea what happened with David Peterson until after the game and he saw him wearing a boot. It was then that Rojas learned the story of what happened. "He was walking back to the clubhouse and he felt a pop in his right foot," Rojas said.
RE: lol....  
Mike in NY : 7/24/2021 4:32 pm : link
In comment 15312321 ZGiants98 said:
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Per Mojo Hill: Luis Rojas said he had no idea what happened with David Peterson until after the game and he saw him wearing a boot. It was then that Rojas learned the story of what happened. "He was walking back to the clubhouse and he felt a pop in his right foot," Rojas said.


What’s next? Below the knee amputation?
Im getting VERY nervous about McNeil...  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 4:37 pm : link
Per Mojo Hill: Luis Rojas said there should be a roster move pregame to activate Brandon Drury, who is with the team. Rojas said he needs to talk with some players first.
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ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 4:39 pm : link
Per Anthony DiComo: Rich Hill is tentatively scheduled to make his Mets debut on Sunday. He's due to fly in today and play catch. As long as that goes well, Hill will pitch Sunday against the Blue Jays.
McNeil not an IL candidate per Rojas  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 4:39 pm : link
Whew!
RE: RE: lol....  
jpkmets : 7/24/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15312323 Mike in NY said:
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Per Mojo Hill: Luis Rojas said he had no idea what happened with David Peterson until after the game and he saw him wearing a boot. It was then that Rojas learned the story of what happened. "He was walking back to the clubhouse and he felt a pop in his right foot," Rojas said.



What’s next? Below the knee amputation?


Totally missed the news on Peterson during vacation. Did he have another injury? Is he down for the year?
What about Degrom?  
spike : 7/24/2021 5:05 pm : link
Who is pitching tomorrow besides Hill?
RE: What about Degrom?  
spike : 7/24/2021 5:06 pm : link
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Who is pitching tomorrow besides Hill?


Monday doubleheader, rather.
RE: RE: RE: lol....  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 5:20 pm : link
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Per Mojo Hill: Luis Rojas said he had no idea what happened with David Peterson until after the game and he saw him wearing a boot. It was then that Rojas learned the story of what happened. "He was walking back to the clubhouse and he felt a pop in his right foot," Rojas said.



What’s next? Below the knee amputation?



Totally missed the news on Peterson during vacation. Did he have another injury? Is he down for the year?


Broke his foot "Walking" according to Rojas. Yes, he's done for the year. Will have surgery.
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ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 5:21 pm : link
Per Anthony DiComo: Yet another injury for the Mets: Stephen Nogosek is going on the IL due to a sore shoulder. Brandon Drury activated. The Mets are also optioning Nick Tropeano to AAA to clear 26 man roster space for Rich Hill.
RE: RE: What about Degrom?  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15312357 spike said:
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Who is pitching tomorrow besides Hill?



Monday doubleheader, rather.


Stroman is confirmed. My guess is the second is a bullpen game headed by Banda and others.

My question is who is starting Tuesday....
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Rory : 7/24/2021 5:38 pm : link
In comment 15312369 ZGiants98 said:
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Per Anthony DiComo: Yet another injury for the Mets: Stephen Nogosek is going on the IL due to a sore shoulder. Brandon Drury activated. The Mets are also optioning Nick Tropeano to AAA to clear 26 man roster space for Rich Hill.


We are pitching these past their usual capabilities, I hate this bc Nogosek pitched his heart out. MLB needs to expand the rosters for playoffs
RE: RE: RE: What about Degrom?  
CGiants07 : 7/24/2021 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15312371 ZGiants98 said:
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Who is pitching tomorrow besides Hill?



Monday doubleheader, rather.



Stroman is confirmed. My guess is the second is a bullpen game headed by Banda and others.

My question is who is starting Tuesday....

mcgill or another bullpen game is my guess unless a trade.

sunday-hill
monday-stro/bp
tuesday-mcgill/bp/trade or degrom?
wednesday-mcgill or bp game or degrom?
thursday-walker
friday-hill/carrasco
saturday-carrasco/hill
sunday-stro
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jpkmets : 7/24/2021 5:49 pm : link
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Per Mojo Hill: Luis Rojas said he had no idea what happened with David Peterson until after the game and he saw him wearing a boot. It was then that Rojas learned the story of what happened. "He was walking back to the clubhouse and he felt a pop in his right foot," Rojas said.



What’s next? Below the knee amputation?



Totally missed the news on Peterson during vacation. Did he have another injury? Is he down for the year?



Broke his foot "Walking" according to Rojas. Yes, he's done for the year. Will have surgery.


Holy shit! I guess he was down through August with the oblique but that is not ideal, obviously. Megill has just been as good a surprise as I can recall. Believe he was #27 on our prospect list entering the year.

Well, Hill should help. Obviously Carrasco in a couple of weeks or so will help. Haven’t heard anything about Syndergaard even throwing since he was shut down two months ago, so I think they are going to have to pony up for a real starter. I’d chase Berrios here. Stroman and Thor are FA’s after this year and getting Berrios and extending him would be a perfect move for our needs right now, IMO.

Amazed at how well the starters have stuck together with all the injury issues. Big game for Walker tonight, IMO.
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CGiants07 : 7/24/2021 5:51 pm : link
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Per Mojo Hill: Luis Rojas said he had no idea what happened with David Peterson until after the game and he saw him wearing a boot. It was then that Rojas learned the story of what happened. "He was walking back to the clubhouse and he felt a pop in his right foot," Rojas said.



What’s next? Below the knee amputation?



Totally missed the news on Peterson during vacation. Did he have another injury? Is he down for the year?



Broke his foot "Walking" according to Rojas. Yes, he's done for the year. Will have surgery.



Holy shit! I guess he was down through August with the oblique but that is not ideal, obviously. Megill has just been as good a surprise as I can recall. Believe he was #27 on our prospect list entering the year.

Well, Hill should help. Obviously Carrasco in a couple of weeks or so will help. Haven’t heard anything about Syndergaard even throwing since he was shut down two months ago, so I think they are going to have to pony up for a real starter. I’d chase Berrios here. Stroman and Thor are FA’s after this year and getting Berrios and extending him would be a perfect move for our needs right now, IMO.

Amazed at how well the starters have stuck together with all the injury issues. Big game for Walker tonight, IMO.

thor is throwing on flat ground currently
RE: RE: RE: RE: What about Degrom?  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 5:55 pm : link
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Who is pitching tomorrow besides Hill?



Monday doubleheader, rather.



Stroman is confirmed. My guess is the second is a bullpen game headed by Banda and others.

My question is who is starting Tuesday....


mcgill or another bullpen game is my guess unless a trade.

sunday-hill
monday-stro/bp
tuesday-mcgill/bp/trade or degrom?
wednesday-mcgill or bp game or degrom?
thursday-walker
friday-hill/carrasco
saturday-carrasco/hill
sunday-stro


Megill wont pitch on 3 days rest. deGrom is going to have to do a rehab assignment per Rojas so its not him. I dont think we can do back to back bullpen games. All I can think of is another trade. Or maybe signing Eickhoff back or something like that.
Carrasco should be back in 6 days  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 5:56 pm : link
Tomorrow should be his last rehab start.
Rory  
allstarjim : 7/24/2021 5:59 pm : link
McNeil again out of the lineup tonight. Just to reply to your earlier post, this just seems like more than muscle fatigue.

I know you talked about your own experience. But did you have a professional medical staff giving you liquids, perhaps an IV?

On this level, when you've now had two days of rest, and should have had extensive hydrattion therapy and muscle therapy, to include stretching and possible massage, you have to be ready to play. To me, even the one Thursday day off should've been all that was needed. I respect you and your experience, but come on. Unless this is a minor strain/pull, this seems excessive. Given the org's history of misinformation or lack of information concerning injuries, and McNeil's earlier hamstring injury, this is concerning to me.

Perhaps this is the org being extremely over-cautios, which would also play to their reputation. But if they were being truthful on it just being muscle fatigue, with their medical resources they should have McNeil ready to play tonight. This is a pennant race, he's swinging a hot bat, and we need him in the lineup.
Allstar  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 6:03 pm : link
They are not bring truthful. McNeil tweaked something again the other night when he stepped on the bag. Clear as day.

Luckily, its not too bad and he must be day to day... but the "fatigue" story is almost certainly BS.
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CGiants07 : 7/24/2021 6:04 pm : link
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Who is pitching tomorrow besides Hill?



Monday doubleheader, rather.



Stroman is confirmed. My guess is the second is a bullpen game headed by Banda and others.

My question is who is starting Tuesday....


mcgill or another bullpen game is my guess unless a trade.

sunday-hill
monday-stro/bp
tuesday-mcgill/bp/trade or degrom?
wednesday-mcgill or bp game or degrom?
thursday-walker
friday-hill/carrasco
saturday-carrasco/hill
sunday-stro



Megill wont pitch on 3 days rest. deGrom is going to have to do a rehab assignment per Rojas so its not him. I dont think we can do back to back bullpen games. All I can think of is another trade. Or maybe signing Eickhoff back or something like that.

only reason i put mcgill there is he only thru 78pitches yesterday.
RE: Allstar  
allstarjim : 7/24/2021 6:10 pm : link
In comment 15312390 ZGiants98 said:
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They are not bring truthful. McNeil tweaked something again the other night when he stepped on the bag. Clear as day.

Luckily, its not too bad and he must be day to day... but the "fatigue" story is almost certainly BS.


Totally agree
Atlanta beating Philly early  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 6:17 pm : link
Id be pretty pleased if that holds up.
Just inconceivable the amount of pitching injuries  
jpkmets : 7/24/2021 6:26 pm : link
Really need Conforto and someone else to get as hot as Pete is and win some long overdue laughers.
Whoa. Thought Springer  
jpkmets : 7/24/2021 7:11 pm : link
went yard there. Lol.
4-seamer with a lot of life  
jpkmets : 7/24/2021 7:19 pm : link
against Teoscar. Hope we jump on em early!
All of a sudden  
pjcas18 : 7/24/2021 8:43 pm : link
Walker is pitching like a guy who was still unsigned on February 20.

Met should not be buyers (other than deals like Rich Hill - make those all day long), just roll with this roster.

RE: All of a sudden  
CGiants07 : 7/24/2021 9:06 pm : link
In comment 15312476 pjcas18 said:
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Walker is pitching like a guy who was still unsigned on February 20.

Met should not be buyers (other than deals like Rich Hill - make those all day long), just roll with this roster.

thats not gonna happen
I don't see any reason to not be aggressively opportunistic  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2021 9:37 pm : link
it goes without saying you never want to do anything stupid, and frankly any team with an owner like Cohen should never have to trade their top prospects to improve - just take back salary and trade for rentals when their value is discounted. Look around the NL and I don't know who would be favored over the Mets other than LAD. SD? MIL? SFG? The NYM have winning records vs the 2 teams from that list they've played (SD/MIL) on top of their 5 game lead in the loss column in the division.

As long as JDG has a pulse this team has a chance against anyone.
timebomb smith just got launched to the moon by bichette  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2021 9:44 pm : link
that ball was destroyed. Bichette and Vlad Jr are gonna be a problem in the AL.
They won't know  
pjcas18 : 7/24/2021 9:45 pm : link
how/if deGrom comes back until after the deadline.

I wouldn't give up meaningful assets with that unknown.
RE: They won't know  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2021 9:49 pm : link
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how/if deGrom comes back until after the deadline.

I wouldn't give up meaningful assets with that unknown.


in the last several deadlines nobody has had to give up meaningful assets for rentals. and plenty of good players have been added just by taking on $.
Ah well...  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 11:18 pm : link
Crappy night. Win tomorrow and all is well.
Mayer reporting from his sources  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 11:51 pm : link
The Mets do in fact have interest in Kimbrel.
Also..  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 11:52 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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5h
Sources: Twins have scouts at the St. Lucie Mets game tonight.

Mets have shown interest in multiple Twins players: José Berríos, Josh Donaldson, and Taylor Rogers.
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ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 11:53 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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5h
One name I’ve heard the Twins have monitored is Mets right-handed pitching prospect Junior Santos.

The 19-year-old has pitched better recently and hit 97 mph in his last outing.
Not interested:  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 11:53 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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5h
One team that talked to the Twins about José Berríos recently believed it would take a “massive haul” to get him.
I guess he's adjusting...  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 11:54 pm : link
Mets prospect Brett Baty is having a monster night for Double-A Binghamton:

4-for-4, 2 2B, HR, BB, 6 RBI
Harvey back to back good outings  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2021 11:55 pm : link
6 innings a piece...

Maybe's he's figuring it out?
in positive news Cortes/Baty/Vientos went off for Bing in 14-13 win  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2021 11:56 pm : link
the 3 of them combined for 11 rbis.

Cortes was 1/3 with 3 rbis and 2 walks hitting leadoff.
Baty had what looks like a break out game going 4/4 with 6 rbis and coming up just a triple shy of a cycle (had 2 doubles and a homer).
Vientos was 1/4 with 2 rbis and a walk.

Kind of crazy how we started the year without much of anything at the upper levels of the minors and now we've got those 3 plus Lee doing well in AAA (although he went 0 for 4 today with 3 k's and 7 LOB).
RE: Harvey back to back good outings  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2021 11:58 pm : link
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6 innings a piece...

Maybe's he's figuring it out?


I think the rest over the ASB probably helped him. It seems like his stuff can be good enough once in a while but not consistently. I really think he should try converting to the BP to see if less overall innings allows his stuff to play up more frequently.
The Jays Guerrero is now 2nd in the AL in ba, hr's and rbi's. He has  
Ira : 7/25/2021 8:13 am : link
a decent shot at the AL Triple Crown.
RE: Rory  
Rory : 7/25/2021 12:28 pm : link
In comment 15312389 allstarjim said:
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McNeil again out of the lineup tonight. Just to reply to your earlier post, this just seems like more than muscle fatigue.

I know you talked about your own experience. But did you have a professional medical staff giving you liquids, perhaps an IV?

On this level, when you've now had two days of rest, and should have had extensive hydrattion therapy and muscle therapy, to include stretching and possible massage, you have to be ready to play. To me, even the one Thursday day off should've been all that was needed. I respect you and your experience, but come on. Unless this is a minor strain/pull, this seems excessive. Given the org's history of misinformation or lack of information concerning injuries, and McNeil's earlier hamstring injury, this is concerning to me.

Perhaps this is the org being extremely over-cautios, which would also play to their reputation. But if they were being truthful on it just being muscle fatigue, with their medical resources they should have McNeil ready to play tonight. This is a pennant race, he's swinging a hot bat, and we need him in the lineup.


Allstar, my debate with you hinged on whether leg fatigue is a concern enough to hold a player out, If you are insinuating that its more about the Mets not being forthcoming on a more serious injury with McNeil then I dont disagree.

regardless, all good man.
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