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NFT: Check your license plate border (NY & NJ)

Sean : 7/25/2021 8:22 am
I just came across this, but you could end up with a ticket if *any* part of your license plate is covered in NY or NJ. A clear money grab, but could happen to anyone.
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Ha, what a scam  
section125 : 7/25/2021 8:30 am : link
but is it surprising?
Thanks for the heads up  
robbieballs2003 : 7/25/2021 8:31 am : link
But what a bullshit rule. What is covered, the words New York at the bottom? No other state would dare having as ugly a license plate as NY. If someone needs to see New York at the bottom then they shouldn't be handing out tickets in the first place.
My daughter got it  
viggie : 7/25/2021 8:45 am : link
Some local craphole town in the Catskills and it was 160 bucks. They said if it covers “the empire state” at all it’s a violation. It was the dealers rim around the plate.
North Carolina tried this  
Gman11 : 7/25/2021 8:57 am : link
It didn't last long. I guess the law is still on the books, but they don't enforce it any more.
What a joke  
BigBlueShock : 7/25/2021 9:01 am : link
THAT’S what we want our police focused on now?

Unbelievable
RE: My daughter got it  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/25/2021 9:15 am : link
In comment 15312567 viggie said:
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Some local craphole town in the Catskills and it was 160 bucks. They said if it covers “the empire state” at all it’s a violation. It was the dealers rim around the plate.


I'm assuming the cops had nothing better to do/looking to meet quotas. That's an absurd law.
If that were to happen to me...  
EricJ : 7/25/2021 9:27 am : link
I would purchase the URL for the police officer and the town. Will spend 10x the cost of the ticket developing a website to make both wish it never happened. Will put content on there that is completely truthful. Then they can buy the sites at an inflated value to take them down.
RE: If that were to happen to me...  
BamaBlue : 7/25/2021 10:18 am : link
In comment 15312584 EricJ said:
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I would purchase the URL for the police officer and the town. Will spend 10x the cost of the ticket developing a website to make both wish it never happened. Will put content on there that is completely truthful. Then they can buy the sites at an inflated value to take them down.


I'm pretty sure you would generate a lot of attention for yourself. You will end up like the guy in the Shawshank Redemption.
They have the same rule in Vermont  
VTChuck : 7/25/2021 10:45 am : link
Don't know if they issued tickets, but you couldn't get an inspection sticker. So before each inspection, I would remove mine (Giants in the rear, Red Sox in the front). As soon as I had the new sticker, I'd re-install them. Once a year PITA.

Don't know what the rule is in NH, but I haven't had any hassles with inspections here.
RE: RE: My daughter got it  
Belowtheshadows : 7/25/2021 11:28 am : link
In comment 15312577 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15312567 viggie said:


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Some local craphole town in the Catskills and it was 160 bucks. They said if it covers “the empire state” at all it’s a violation. It was the dealers rim around the plate.



I'm assuming the cops had nothing better to do/looking to meet quotas. That's an absurd law.
You seriously think the cops are the ones that make laws?
RE: RE: RE: My daughter got it  
BigBlueShock : 7/25/2021 11:40 am : link
In comment 15312639 Belowtheshadows said:
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In comment 15312567 viggie said:


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Some local craphole town in the Catskills and it was 160 bucks. They said if it covers “the empire state” at all it’s a violation. It was the dealers rim around the plate.



I'm assuming the cops had nothing better to do/looking to meet quotas. That's an absurd law.

You seriously think the cops are the ones that make laws?

Where did he say he thought the cops made the law?
RE: Thanks for the heads up  
Matt M. : 7/25/2021 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15312562 robbieballs2003 said:
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But what a bullshit rule. What is covered, the words New York at the bottom? No other state would dare having as ugly a license plate as NY. If someone needs to see New York at the bottom then they shouldn't be handing out tickets in the first place.
One of the people in that video had "New York" visible on top. "Empire State" was blacked out, which is more ridiculous.

I am honestly not sure if my plate cover obscures anything. I'll have to check.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 7/25/2021 1:01 pm : link
1) At least in the 2 cases in the video, there is no way it was cops issuing these tickets. There were parked cars. It was parking officers who issued the tickets. Not any better, but still...

2) NJ has a proposed bill that would exempt dealer plate covers. I doubt that passes though, as it would be most of the covers.

3) In my neighborhood there are always parking officers walking around on Sundays, when there are no meters to enforce. They check the registration and inspection stickers on each windshield all day long. While, either expired is technically correct, that seems like a bullshit practice to me.
......  
Route 9 : 7/25/2021 1:10 pm : link
If not, the annoying NJSP will just pull you over for your tag light being out ... When it's not out.
I'm sorry  
Bricktop : 7/25/2021 1:12 pm : link
But nys sucks ass. That's just all absurd money grab. I'm getting increasingly tired of living here. But where would I go? The rest of the country kind of sucks too.
......  
Route 9 : 7/25/2021 1:13 pm : link
Matt M. Yup. The cops on LBI do that, too. They check plates and registration in parking lots all of the time.
RE: I'm sorry  
Route 9 : 7/25/2021 1:14 pm : link
In comment 15312713 Bricktop said:
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But nys sucks ass. That's just all absurd money grab. I'm getting increasingly tired of living here. But where would I go? The rest of the country kind of sucks too.


North Carolina?
Root cause…  
trueblueinpw : 7/25/2021 1:16 pm : link
States need money for various programs (medical care, pensions, benefits, salaries) and, especially in NJ and NY they’ve pretty much maxed out income tax and sales tax so they move to these other sources of revenue.

Somewhat counter intuitively, I’ve read that covid resulted in many states increasing their tax revenues. Anyway…
RE: RE: If that were to happen to me...  
EricJ : 7/25/2021 1:23 pm : link
In comment 15312608 BamaBlue said:
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I would purchase the URL for the police officer and the town. Will spend 10x the cost of the ticket developing a website to make both wish it never happened. Will put content on there that is completely truthful. Then they can buy the sites at an inflated value to take them down.



I'm pretty sure you would generate a lot of attention for yourself. You will end up like the guy in the Shawshank Redemption.


The shit works though. Someone owed me a lot of money. Bought the domain for his first and last name. Two months later I sold him the domain and its very truthful contents for exactly what I was owed.
My son got one in NYC  
Bill L : 7/25/2021 1:30 pm : link
and he only had it down there for a couple days, because he usually keeps it in my driveway (not something I’m happy about but he doesn’t need it in the city usually).

Also had a dealer holder on it.

I still am holding on to my old white and blue plates so I suppose I’m always good.
RE: RE: I'm sorry  
Bricktop : 7/25/2021 1:32 pm : link
In comment 15312717 Route 9 said:
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But nys sucks ass. That's just all absurd money grab. I'm getting increasingly tired of living here. But where would I go? The rest of the country kind of sucks too.



North Carolina?


That was the first state that came to mind, tbh.
Extortion  
Sneakers O'toole : 7/26/2021 10:12 am : link
In it's pure form
Why I didn't become a cop...  
x meadowlander : 7/26/2021 2:49 pm : link
...me and my 2 best friends all studied to become cops. On my way to take a test for Moonachie NJ PD, I passed a Moonachie cop who had a guy my age pulled over and was giving him a ticket as I drove by.

I made a u-turn and went home. I wanted to 'serve and protect', not ruin peoples days.

What kind of pricks give out tickets for license plate frames?

While happy with my career choices, worth pointing out is that those 2 best friends retired long ago from their respective police jobs, I'm still a working stiff.
I would think the dealerships  
montanagiant : 7/26/2021 2:55 pm : link
Should have some blame in this. Start raising hell with them for putting the plate cover on and they will, in turn, raise hell with lawmakers over it. That's a large donation segment to piss off
RE: Why I didn't become a cop...  
Big Al : 7/26/2021 2:59 pm : link
In comment 15313489 x meadowlander said:
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...me and my 2 best friends all studied to become cops. On my way to take a test for Moonachie NJ PD, I passed a Moonachie cop who had a guy my age pulled over and was giving him a ticket as I drove by.

I made a u-turn and went home. I wanted to 'serve and protect', not ruin peoples days.

What kind of pricks give out tickets for license plate frames?

While happy with my career choices, worth pointing out is that those 2 best friends retired long ago from their respective police jobs, I'm still a working stiff.
So you made a life decision on what you had planned and studied for based on a passing incident you knew no details about?
RE: RE: Why I didn't become a cop...  
x meadowlander : 7/26/2021 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15313503 Big Al said:
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In comment 15313489 x meadowlander said:


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...me and my 2 best friends all studied to become cops. On my way to take a test for Moonachie NJ PD, I passed a Moonachie cop who had a guy my age pulled over and was giving him a ticket as I drove by.

I made a u-turn and went home. I wanted to 'serve and protect', not ruin peoples days.

What kind of pricks give out tickets for license plate frames?

While happy with my career choices, worth pointing out is that those 2 best friends retired long ago from their respective police jobs, I'm still a working stiff.

So you made a life decision on what you had planned and studied for based on a passing incident you knew no details about?
YUP. :)

I don't regret it - both buds, one a NYPD detective, the other a Tom's River cop - both told me I made the right move in hindsight. Both retired at the earliest possible date. The detective in particular said the stress of that job was never worth it.
RE: RE: RE: My daughter got it  
montanagiant : 7/26/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15312639 Belowtheshadows said:
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In comment 15312577 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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In comment 15312567 viggie said:


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Some local craphole town in the Catskills and it was 160 bucks. They said if it covers “the empire state” at all it’s a violation. It was the dealers rim around the plate.



I'm assuming the cops had nothing better to do/looking to meet quotas. That's an absurd law.

You seriously think the cops are the ones that make laws?

How do you arrive at the conclusion SF stated the cops "Make the laws" from his post?
Look, I know there are cops on this board...  
x meadowlander : 7/26/2021 3:45 pm : link
...and I respect the work that you folks do, but if you've ever given a person a ticket for a dealer plastic plate frame - for no other reason? That's just low.

Maybe the right thing to do is to get a screwdriver and remove it for the driver on the spot rather than wreck their day.

I once got pulled over by a cop. He walked PAST my window, tapped on my headlight with his flashlight - I didn't even realize it was out, but tapping on it turned it on. He walked up to me, said - get that fixed! - and walked back to his car.

Didn't even ask for my license.

I think the story here  
eclipz928 : 7/26/2021 8:57 pm : link
is that there was a misapplication of the law. The spirit of the law is to prevent people from covering up important identifying information on the plates, but the letter of the law was written too broadly. Unfortunately, people can end up being unfairly penalized due poorly written laws.

Aside from that, I personally find those dealer frames to be obnoxious to look at. I don't really understand why so many people choose to not have them immediately removed or replaced after buying a new car. A car looks so much nicer when you're not driving around with an advertisement for Holman Auto Group or Burns Hyundai on your front and rear bumpers.
RE: I think the story here  
BigBlueShock : 7/26/2021 9:15 pm : link
In comment 15313761 eclipz928 said:
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is that there was a misapplication of the law. The spirit of the law is to prevent people from covering up important identifying information on the plates, but the letter of the law was written too broadly. Unfortunately, people can end up being unfairly penalized due poorly written laws.

Aside from that, I personally find those dealer frames to be obnoxious to look at. I don't really understand why so many people choose to not have them immediately removed or replaced after buying a new car. A car looks so much nicer when you're not driving around with an advertisement for Holman Auto Group or Burns Hyundai on your front and rear bumpers.

Because a license plate holder has absolutely zero significance to the look of the car? I’ve never once looked at a new car and thought “damn, that would be a sweet ride if not for the dealer plate frames!”. Nobody even notices them.

If you are that bothered by them, maybe you’re the issue instead of those that don’t give a shit?
It's just my own opinion about cars - relax.  
eclipz928 : 7/26/2021 9:49 pm : link
If you don't mind the look of your dealership frame, then more power to you.
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