NFT: Sunday Mets Baseball / Gm 3 vs Jays / Stripling vs Rich Hill

In comment 15312803 Vanzetti said:

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Doesn’t look fatigued to me. That was vintage 2019 McNeil

Great point. That's a ground out to 2nd earlier in the year when he was over-swinging. Love to see this.

Top of 7th, right before the first of the two 1-2 pitches to Springer, and look behind home plate. :)

Doesn't take much for me. Lmk if you saw it, too.

with the best 7th inning stretch songs in baseball...no contest

In comment 15312828 allstarjim said:

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Top of 7th, right before the first of the two 1-2 pitches to Springer, and look behind home plate. :) Doesn't take much for me. Lmk if you saw it, too.

Bouncy bouncy?

In comment 15312852 RodneyHamp said:

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In comment 15312828 allstarjim said: Quote: Top of 7th, right before the first of the two 1-2 pitches to Springer, and look behind home plate. :) Doesn't take much for me. Lmk if you saw it, too. Bouncy bouncy?

Yessum!

Lugo has to be the 8th inning man

let's hope we get some runs and/or good Diaz.

This is the toughest save for Diaz of the year.

Big K of Springer!

was a filthy pitch. trust your stuff.

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win

In comment 15312885 pjcas18 said:

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win

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out Diaz - like a lot of closers seems to try and outsmart himself sometimes.

his stuff is filthy - wish he'd worth with someone like Pedro who was very cerebral on the mound - or deGrom.

Díaz!

Huge. Big performance striking out Springer, Semien, and Bichette!

Love it.

In comment 15312890 allstarjim said:

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Díaz! Huge. Big performance striking out Springer, Semien, and Bichette! Love it.

Good thing McNeil rested those legs ;)

not aggressively add at the deadline.

I'd love to add Kimbrel, but if Diaz pitches like that do you really need Kimbrel? who has another year.

And with uncertainty around deGrom I'd would only add incrementally at low cost.

Serve a roll of the rotation fills out and stays healthy.

Still would like to see Brad Branch back

6ks but most importantly 32 of 38 for strikes

He’s ready

In comment 15312899 Rory said:

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Serve a roll of the rotation fills out and stays healthy. Still would like to see Brad Branch back

Hill has pitched out of the bullpen plenty before. 2 straight seasons early in his career. He is the second lefty out of the pen if enough starters are back. If you have a SP injured in the playoffs, could easily step in there too. He will be a valuable piece going forward.

I think it was Eric in LI, who was calling for Mike Minor, because he can step in and pitch in the rotation, and go into the bullpen in the playoffs. Hill is exactly this type of move, but better if healthy imo. Also cost them really nothing. I was floored they got him.

Great day out there. Really electric in the late innings. Credible first outing from Hill. Gonna help stabilize things.

Really excellent series win against a tough team. Lovely day!

If he gives Mets, five quality innings that’s all you can ask

Rojas should have pinch hit for him in the 5th with two on. I know he is worried about preserving the pen. But it was fairly predictable that Hill was going to struggle third time through that murderers row of RH hitters

In comment 15312913 Vanzetti said:

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If he gives Mets, five quality innings that’s all you can ask Rojas should have pinch hit for him in the 5th with two on. I know he is worried about preserving the pen. But it was fairly predictable that Hill was going to struggle third time through that murderers row of RH hitters

I agree, but they’ve also got a doubleheader tomorrow, and one will probably be a bullpen game

In comment 15312900 Rory said:

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6ks but most importantly 32 of 38 for strikes He’s ready

This is fantastic but why did they stop him at 3 innings?? He actually threw LESS pitches today than he did in his last outing. Frustrating.

Either way, it looks like he will be re-joining the Mets and be in the rotation going forward.

Thank God.

Mike Puma
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Carlos Carrasco's "stuff was great" today, according to Luis Rojas, in his start for Syracuse. An industry source told us earlier to expect Carrasco pitching for the Mets for his next turn.

Stroman
Walker
Megill
Carrasco
Hill

Its at least a full rotation after we get passed this damned doubleheader and Tuesday.

Then hopefully deGrom in 10 days pushing Hill to the pen.

That would certainly work if things go as planned. I bet they trade for another SP though.

Nice win!!

Got what you would expect from Hill. The rest of the team rallied for the win

In years. Great stadium

In comment 15312918 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 15312900 Rory said: Quote: 6ks but most importantly 32 of 38 for strikes He’s ready This is fantastic but why did they stop him at 3 innings?? He actually threw LESS pitches today than he did in his last outing. Frustrating. Either way, it looks like he will be re-joining the Mets and be in the rotation going forward. Thank God.

I mean I would think it’s bc they want him up in the rotation this week.

that's a trade I could get behind - depending on the price.

he's a rental, but a good one.

LAD and SDP reportedly interested

3 for 31 (.097 average) with 15 K's and 3 BB's since his recall (including 0 for 3 with a K so far today).

feel bad for the kid, at least it's not in NY where he'd probably be asked about it 15 times a day.

Robert Murray
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Sources: Adam Frazier is being traded to the San Diego Padres, pending medicals. 3 players are going to the Pittsburgh Pirates. First reported: @JeffPassan
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In comment 15312922 ZGiants98 said:

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Stroman Walker Megill Carrasco Hill Its at least a full rotation after we get passed this damned doubleheader and Tuesday. Then hopefully deGrom in 10 days pushing Hill to the pen. That would certainly work if things go as planned. I bet they trade for another SP though.

wouldnt be surprised if they do a modified 6 man rotation once everyone is healthy too

In comment 15312954 pjcas18 said:

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3 for 31 (.097 average) with 15 K's and 3 BB's since his recall (including 0 for 3 with a K so far today). feel bad for the kid, at least it's not in NY where he'd probably be asked about it 15 times a day.

Wow, imagine if he just can't hit ML pitching?

You have to believe this isn't going to last, right?

In comment 15312974 allstarjim said:

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In comment 15312954 pjcas18 said: Quote: 3 for 31 (.097 average) with 15 K's and 3 BB's since his recall (including 0 for 3 with a K so far today). feel bad for the kid, at least it's not in NY where he'd probably be asked about it 15 times a day. Wow, imagine if he just can't hit ML pitching? You have to believe this isn't going to last, right?

no, it won't last. I seriously doubt it lasts.

In comment 15312976 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 15312974 allstarjim said: Quote: In comment 15312954 pjcas18 said: Quote: 3 for 31 (.097 average) with 15 K's and 3 BB's since his recall (including 0 for 3 with a K so far today). feel bad for the kid, at least it's not in NY where he'd probably be asked about it 15 times a day. Wow, imagine if he just can't hit ML pitching? You have to believe this isn't going to last, right? no, it won't last. I seriously doubt it lasts.

But if you're a Mariners' fan, are you in panic mode yet? If you're not, you're close, right? This is 123 PAs and he's hitting .099.

I think you may be starting to read some people have some doubts. I think they're wrong.

Kelenic is similar in age (a little younger) to Tatis, Acuna, Soto - and those three all have achieved a lot already, and Kelenic is struggling massively.

Like I said I still think he'll be great, - he was crushing it in AAA after being sent down (over a 1.0 OPS) - but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fans frustrated and Kelenic maybe even letting some doubt start to creep in.

this guy was supposed to be the next Trout (or Trout-like).

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The New York #Mets have been talking with the Chicago #Cubs about many players but one name that keeps coming up is lefty reliever Andrew Chafin. The 31-year-old lefty has a 2.06 ERA through 39.1 innings with a 37:12 strikeout to walk ratio.

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Buster Olney on SNB says he thinks the Mets gets one of Trevor Story, Kris Bryant or Javy Baez.

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Sources: Mets will inquire about Nationals ace Max Scherzer (via @martinonyc) https://on.sny.tv/6qua3Sv

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#Twins starter Michael Pineda is drawing trade interest ahead of Friday's deadline, source says. Pineda, 32, will be a free agent after the season. His start Monday against the #Tigers will be watched closely by the industry. @MLB @MLBNetwork

Padres or Dodgers most likely. Giants could be in on him too because Gausman has a hip problem.

In comment 15313062 ZGiants98 said:

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@mattkardos Buster Olney on SNB says he thinks the Mets gets one of Trevor Story, Kris Bryant or Javy Baez.

Yes, because SS is a big need. Get all three and have the four SS offense.

I think Buster needs to put down the crack pipe

on Scherzer. I get the whole trading within the division thing, but i think teams want the best deal. I mean it would be just as risky for the Mets to trade some of their top prospects knowing they could have to see them for the nexst 8 years or something. Scherzer has still been great, but he is getting up there in age and has had a few injuries. But man if healthy having him and Degrom heading into the playoffs would be absurd.

is a rental, and the Nationals won a WS two years ago (so it's not like if the Mets win it would demoralize their fan base), I'm pretty sure they would trade with the Mets if the Mets offer was the best.

great. It would be nice to work out a trade and to extend him for 2 or 3 years.

I don't think it's crazy to think that if any of the top 3 teams (LA, SD, NYM) in the NL get him they become the odds on favorite to go to the WS.

It would hurt bad to give up Ginn + Vientos for a rental but it may be necessary.

Random thought but if they do trade for a SP, I think I'd rather give up Peterson than Ginn, or at least I'd consider it. One would think he has more value since he can slot in to someone's rotation to start next year than Ginn who is still a few years away (which basically negates the age difference).

I’d rather do Peterson. Ginn would be coming up at a time when some of the guys they have may be leaving/aging. His timing lines up better. There is also the issue that he probably has more upside, even if it’s the upside of the unknown.

If they re-sign Scherzer particularly. They would still have deGrom, Scherzer, Walker, Carrasco, Megill, Lucchesi, Yamamoto for next year. And that’s without resigning a Thor, Stroman or anything else. It would hurt losing Vientos, but you have to do it, particularly since they are trading for depth there. If you consider Vientos a 1B/DH, they have Alonso/Smith, etc.

Britt Ghiroli
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Some Max Scherzer trade odds:

New York Mets 3/1
Los Angeles Dodgers 7/2
Milwaukee Brewers 15/4
New York Yankees 9/2
Houston Astros 5/1
Boston Red Sox 6/1
Oakland Athletics 7/1

(From Bet Online.)

In comment 15313201 KDavies said:

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I’d rather do Peterson. Ginn would be coming up at a time when some of the guys they have may be leaving/aging. His timing lines up better. There is also the issue that he probably has more upside, even if it’s the upside of the unknown. If they re-sign Scherzer particularly. They would still have deGrom, Scherzer, Walker, Carrasco, Megill, Lucchesi, Yamamoto for next year. And that’s without resigning a Thor, Stroman or anything else. It would hurt losing Vientos, but you have to do it, particularly since they are trading for depth there. If you consider Vientos a 1B/DH, they have Alonso/Smith, etc.

this basically lines up with how I'm thinking. I also think I'd much rather Sherzer than Berrios. I'd rather trade value for the better player than for extra years of control (that can be bought with cash).

I do think the idea of eating cash in Donaldson to pay down the Berrios price is interesting though. If you can get Berrios cheaper than Scherzer because you are taking back Donaldson's $50m (which fangraphs values as equivalent to a 60 grade prospect - so more valuable than any prospect in our system except Alvarez) you have to think about it even if it's nauseating to think about the $40m going to Donaldson/Cano in the 2 seasons after this one.