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section125 : 7/25/2021 1:54 pm
Well if nobody else want to start it, I will.

Tuned in in top of 3rd just in time to see DJLM punched out on a pitch no less than 6 inches inside...

And Odor drives in Allen 1-0 two out RBI single
Odor singles  
Professor Falken : 7/25/2021 1:57 pm : link
Stanton dogs it going from first to second. Should be standing on third.
RE: Odor singles  
section125 : 7/25/2021 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15312748 Professor Falken said:
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Stanton dogs it going from first to second. Should be standing on third.


I doubt Gardner attempts to get to 3rd.
Torres with the  
section125 : 7/25/2021 2:13 pm : link
lead off double and moved to 3rd on a Gardy sac bunt.
Urshela with the fly high off  
section125 : 7/25/2021 2:14 pm : link
the Monster to drive in Torres 2-0
Too bad...  
GruningsOnTheHill : 7/25/2021 2:15 pm : link
that was only a single in this stickball stadium.
RE: Too bad...  
section125 : 7/25/2021 2:17 pm : link
In comment 15312759 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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that was only a single in this stickball stadium.


Yeah - close. Well gone in the Bronx..
DP LeMahieu, amirite?  
bceagle05 : 7/25/2021 2:25 pm : link
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Odor with the  
section125 : 7/25/2021 2:35 pm : link
big fly, 3-0
Red Sox shift working  
section125 : 7/25/2021 2:43 pm : link
just about perfectly. Torres and Gardy hit balls that should have been hits, but players positioned right there...
LaMarre - twice  
section125 : 7/25/2021 2:55 pm : link
has made an out on the 1st pitch he saw.....idiot.
Oh no,  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:01 pm : link
bases loaded, one out and Stanton coming up with a new pitcher coming in...what could possibly go wrong.
Unreal  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:04 pm : link
Stanton swings at two pitches no where near the plate...he need to sit a few days.
What a horrible at bat by Stanton  
Jints in Carolina : 7/25/2021 3:05 pm : link
Just awful.
Typical  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:06 pm : link
result....nada
That was fugly  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/25/2021 3:06 pm : link
I wonder if playing the field would help Stanton at this point. Maybe sitting on the bench thinking only about your ABs is not doing him well
RE: What a horrible at bat by Stanton  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:07 pm : link
In comment 15312784 Jints in Carolina said:
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Just awful.


He has had several last few games. he is worse than useless right now.
We're only stuck with Stanton for what 10 more years?  
Stu11 : 7/25/2021 3:10 pm : link
Good times!
German 4 Ks in  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:20 pm : link
7th inning. Yes - 4 Ks. Gary with the PB on Boeggarts..
Boone just can't wait  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/25/2021 3:20 pm : link
to show everyone how smart he is by going to the BP
Holy Shyte El Gary  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:22 pm : link
with a triple!
......  
Route 9 : 7/25/2021 3:23 pm : link
Lol. Sox.
RE: Boone just can't wait  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:23 pm : link
In comment 15312799 DC Gmen Fan said:
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to show everyone how smart he is by going to the BP


German is not stretched out...BP would not be a bad idea
Yes, Torres  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:24 pm : link
with RBI single to drive in Sanchez, 4-0
He then steals  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:26 pm : link
2nd...followed by Papa Smurf BB.
And then Torres  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:28 pm : link
gets picked off 2nd..
What a performance by German  
Jints in Carolina : 7/25/2021 3:33 pm : link
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RE: What a performance by German  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15312817 Jints in Carolina said:
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Time to hold our breath...
RE: RE: What a performance by German  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15312819 section125 said:
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In comment 15312817 Jints in Carolina said:


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Time to hold our breath...


That did not take long...
......  
Route 9 : 7/25/2021 3:38 pm : link
Cutter
This..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2021 3:39 pm : link
is well past absurd
Ha ahhaha  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:39 pm : link
WTF is with this BP......
Are we really going to blow this game  
Jints in Carolina : 7/25/2021 3:39 pm : link
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All three batters  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:41 pm : link
Loasigia faces get hits.

Funny, only guy I wanted in the game was Loaisiga
RE: Are we really going to blow this game  
NYerInMA : 7/25/2021 3:43 pm : link
In comment 15312826 Jints in Carolina said:
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I mean, that's kinda what they do...
Hahahahahaha  
BigBlueShock : 7/25/2021 3:44 pm : link
Unbelievable. You simply cannot make this shit up.
Absolute trash  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:44 pm : link
this is disgusting - fucking disgusting. There are no words for this....
Another..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2021 3:44 pm : link
game blown late it looks like.

Can't even get a fucking out.
Et tu Loaisiga?  
Stu11 : 7/25/2021 3:44 pm : link
Geez how did we go from having a complete shutdown pen for months to literally no lead safe?
This team won’t let us  
bceagle05 : 7/25/2021 3:44 pm : link
get the least bit excited about a second half run. Meltdowns left and right.
......  
Route 9 : 7/25/2021 3:45 pm : link
Watching this at my mom's house. Second she got up. Yankees gave up the first hit. It's her fault.
Ugh  
terz22 : 7/25/2021 3:46 pm : link
How predictable was this
And we should have been up 7 or 8 to nothing too.  
Stu11 : 7/25/2021 3:48 pm : link
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Just unreal  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:48 pm : link
blowing 5 and 4 run leads....
Has to be one the least  
terz22 : 7/25/2021 3:49 pm : link
Enjoyable seasons in a long time.
RE: And we should have been up 7 or 8 to nothing too.  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15312840 Stu11 said:
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Absolutely..
Thank God Barnes  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:50 pm : link
is their closer...
Heads have to roll  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:51 pm : link
after this....
Ha - Britton makes short  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:52 pm : link
work of them, unfortunately they were productive outs.
This years Yankees are delivering  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/25/2021 3:54 pm : link
New York Giant-type-heartbreaking losses.
lol... wow...  
prdave73 : 7/25/2021 3:54 pm : link
Can't say I'm not surprised.. Red sox have a bullpen, Yankees don't..
RE: Heads have to roll  
terz22 : 7/25/2021 3:55 pm : link
In comment 15312846 section125 said:
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after this....


This. But I really believe Hal doesn't have the guts to make the changes that need to be nade.
......  
Route 9 : 7/25/2021 3:57 pm : link
Stanton with a hit. There's life.
RE: lol... wow...  
section125 : 7/25/2021 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15312850 prdave73 said:
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Can't say I'm not surprised.. Red sox have a bullpen, Yankees don't..


I'll take the Yankees BP over Boston any day of the week.
RE: RE: lol... wow...  
Old Blue : 7/25/2021 4:02 pm : link
In comment 15312855 section125 said:
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In comment 15312850 prdave73 said:


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Can't say I'm not surprised.. Red sox have a bullpen, Yankees don't..



I'll take the Yankees BP over Boston any day of the week.


Been even better with Whitlock.
But I really believe Hal doesn't have the guts to make the changes  
arniefez : 7/25/2021 4:03 pm : link
that need to be made.

I think a lot of people agree with that. But instead of guts I'll go with skill. Who would he hire? He's never hired a baseball person in his life. Has anyone else noticed that Hal sounds a lot more like Larry David's George than the real George did?
RE: Heads have to roll  
Bramton1 : 7/25/2021 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15312846 section125 said:
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after this....


But they won't.
The only way a team consistently loses games  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/25/2021 4:12 pm : link
with big leads and an above average bullpen is a manager who just watches guys give up hit after hit and doesn’t make a move until it’s already too late.
Keeping Boone makes absolutely no sense.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/25/2021 4:13 pm : link
Cash would rather watch a manager cost them games than admit that he was wrong.
Off to St. Pete  
bceagle05 : 7/25/2021 4:16 pm : link
for another ass kicking.
I was watching on the dvr  
Bricktop : 7/25/2021 4:18 pm : link
And keeping an eye on the post count for this thread. It was really slow, then skyrocketed. I knew German either got the no hitter or they blew the game.

Imagine my surprise.
RE: Keeping Boone makes absolutely no sense.  
Essex : 7/25/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15312867 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Cash would rather watch a manager cost them games than admit that he was wrong.


Keeping Cashman makes no sense. The guy is awful. He basically starts every year with a playoff team based on resources and one time in 20 years won the World Series. He has made it once in 17 years. That is disgraceful. Don’t give me 98-00 championship teams either, because anyone with any understanding of how the Yankees worked knew that Stick and Steinbrenner (when he came back from exile) we’re making all those calls. I am all for getting rid of Boone, but Broone without Cashman is a half measure band-aid that makes no sense. Brian Cashman is not very good at his job and the last 20 years shows it.
This is not a team that will win in the postseason, the sooner that  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/25/2021 4:24 pm : link
the Yankees brass realizes that the better.

Again, nobody has as much invested in the team as us the fans. Hal counts his millions upon millions af the end of the year. Cashman gets 5M and has people all over making excuses for him. Stanton takes a hack and gets 13k deposited in his bank account.

Or should we simply start to celebrate a winning season now? Or a minor league with the highest winning percentage?

Good thing football training camp is just around the corner.
RE: ......  
Old Blue : 7/25/2021 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15312853 Route 9 said:
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Stanton with a hit. There's life.


Stanton has sucked, and stuck for another 7 years with him watching him getting older, and slower.
I just don't understand Poon's logic  
Bricktop : 7/25/2021 4:31 pm : link
A couple weeks ago he used Loaisiga's pitch count as an excuse. Now he uses him two days in a row (18 pitches yesterday). AND he kept him in the game after the three batter minimum today.

And why is the infield back with Britton pitching lights out? Plawecki hits a weak grounder to SS to score a run. And he's worried about a bloop single against Britton? Wtf is he doing?

The guy just doesn't know what the fuck is going on out there. I don't have to be a major league manager to know what's the right move.

Poon is a serious serious impediment to winning games. Name me one instance this season where you were like, "Poon made the perfect move to win the game!"

You can't. The gap between him and a guy like Cora is massive. I can just picture Cora in the dugout going "Wtf is this clown doing?"
RE: RE: ......  
Essex : 7/25/2021 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15312883 Old Blue said:
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In comment 15312853 Route 9 said:


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Stanton with a hit. There's life.



Stanton has sucked, and stuck for another 7 years with him watching him getting older, and slower.

All of those contracts stink. AROD’s, Stanton, even CC wasn’t nearly worth what we were paying him the last four or five years. Every time we bring someone in for big money, it almost always fails. Ellsbury, Pavano, need I go on. It is just not a good managed organization and we can get past the bad management with the brute force of a 200+ million payroll.
RE: The only way a team consistently loses games  
mitch300 : 7/25/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15312863 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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with big leads and an above average bullpen is a manager who just watches guys give up hit after hit and doesn’t make a move until it’s already too late.

You do realize that a pitcher has to face a minimum of 3 batters.
RE: RE: The only way a team consistently loses games  
Bricktop : 7/25/2021 4:36 pm : link
In comment 15312894 mitch300 said:
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In comment 15312863 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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with big leads and an above average bullpen is a manager who just watches guys give up hit after hit and doesn’t make a move until it’s already too late.


You do realize that a pitcher has to face a minimum of 3 batters.


The larger point is that he left him in for another batter. It's just unreal. It's like he's trying to lose.
I’m so over this team  
illmatic : 7/25/2021 4:36 pm : link
Get rid of everyone, the coach, front office dorks, players who aren’t helping this team long term.
Once again  
Carson53 : 7/25/2021 4:52 pm : link
they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Put a fork in this team, no playoffs, and hopefully no
Boone here next year. Why is Britton here, if not to be used
in a setup role? It shows the distrust Boone has in Britton
throwing strikes. Lasagna gives up four hits in a row,
then Boone says I'll bring in Zack now...Too late dumbass.
RE: And then Torres  
Carson53 : 7/25/2021 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15312812 section125 said:
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gets picked off 2nd..
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Such a Torres thing to do...turned out to be costly.
RE: RE: The only way a team consistently loses games  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/25/2021 5:00 pm : link
In comment 15312894 mitch300 said:
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In comment 15312863 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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with big leads and an above average bullpen is a manager who just watches guys give up hit after hit and doesn’t make a move until it’s already too late.


You do realize that a pitcher has to face a minimum of 3 batters.


Did you watch the game? Lasagna gave up THREE hits and Boone left him in to give up a FOURTH. Instead of Britton entering the game with the tying run at the plate, he entered with the go ahead run already in scoring position.

The Yankees have blown more late 4+ run leads than anyone in baseball… more than double any other team.

There’s no defending Boone.
I’m  
mitch300 : 7/25/2021 8:14 pm : link
Not defending Boone. It’s not his fault the players paid to do their job are not performing. Boone is just a puppet. Though I think Boone and Cashman need to go.
Can't say I disagree with anything he said.  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/25/2021 9:08 pm : link
They will get exposed if lucky enough to make the postseason. Just rip the bandaid off right now.
Jomboy - ( New Window )
RE: I’m  
section125 : 7/25/2021 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15312996 mitch300 said:
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Not defending Boone. It’s not his fault the players paid to do their job are not performing. Boone is just a puppet. Though I think Boone and Cashman need to go.


I did not know it, even though I wanted Loaisiga in the game, but he had just came off Covid IL and this was the 2nd game in a row he pitched in. Maybe this was too soon for two in a row?
I also remember when Green came in that he was pitching in his 40th game this year. I was thinking, damn 40 games already?
Cashman and the FO, Boone and the Coaches have to go.  
Victor in CT : 7/26/2021 7:36 am : link
Chapman can't pitch multiple days in a row, but Loisaga can coming off a COVID DL stint?

How about just once sticking Torres or anyone else who commits a moronic base running blunder ass on the bench immediately?
How often are they going to get laughed off the field?  
PA Aggie : 7/26/2021 8:05 am : link
Astros, Phillies, Boston twice, Mets,...compete bullpen meltdowns. Why is it that a pitcher(s) doesn't just 'not have it that night'...giving up a run or two but holding the 4-5 run lead. NO, they have to just throw batting practice barely getting an out. How does this happen? Doesn't a pitcher KNOW when warming up that they 'don't have it'?

I know hindsight is 20/20... But you have a day off following the game, why aren't two relievers up in the BP? You limited Cessa to 5 pitches in another game, mowing them down, but let Lasagna go two days in a row with many more pitches? German is flying through their lineup, gives up ONE hit, but you take him out?

What is this collection of fans missing? I know we have commented, questioned, bitched about this team virtually all season...but this crap keeps happening and you get the same Boone post game, Cashman and Hal hiding up in their luxury box, and the same result, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, falling yet another game behind. The mistakes of high school level fundamentals are staggering. The time of 'relax, there are plenty of games left' is over. One extra player at deadline will not fix this team. Barring a major collapse by one or two other teams, this series iced it for me as far as optimism of making the playoffs.
sometimes I really hate baseball  
Jints in Carolina : 7/26/2021 9:57 am : link
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RE: How often are they going to get laughed off the field?  
rnargi : 7/26/2021 10:45 am : link
In comment 15313117 PA Aggie said:
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Astros, Phillies, Boston twice, Mets,...compete bullpen meltdowns. Why is it that a pitcher(s) doesn't just 'not have it that night'...giving up a run or two but holding the 4-5 run lead. NO, they have to just throw batting practice barely getting an out. How does this happen? Doesn't a pitcher KNOW when warming up that they 'don't have it'?

I know hindsight is 20/20... But you have a day off following the game, why aren't two relievers up in the BP? You limited Cessa to 5 pitches in another game, mowing them down, but let Lasagna go two days in a row with many more pitches? German is flying through their lineup, gives up ONE hit, but you take him out?

What is this collection of fans missing? I know we have commented, questioned, bitched about this team virtually all season...but this crap keeps happening and you get the same Boone post game, Cashman and Hal hiding up in their luxury box, and the same result, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, falling yet another game behind. The mistakes of high school level fundamentals are staggering. The time of 'relax, there are plenty of games left' is over. One extra player at deadline will not fix this team. Barring a major collapse by one or two other teams, this series iced it for me as far as optimism of making the playoffs.


You would think...in the new era with having to pitch to a minimum of 3 batters...that the onus on the bullpen coach to let the manager know emphatically if the reliever is going to be effective or not would be paramount. Otherwise, WTF is the need for a bullpen coach? And again, this silly fucking bullshit analytics that led Boone to not want to stretch German "much past 80 pitches". HE WAS FUCKING CRUISING!! YOU NEED THIS WIN!! The hit was a misplayed fly ball, for Pete's sake...let him PITCH! I'm sick of this bullshit
RE: Cashman and the FO, Boone and the Coaches have to go.  
terz22 : 7/26/2021 11:04 am : link
In comment 15313109 Victor in CT said:
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Chapman can't pitch multiple days in a row, but Loisaga can coming off a COVID DL stint?

How about just once sticking Torres or anyone else who commits a moronic base running blunder ass on the bench immediately?


This. Zero accountability. Want all these clowns gone.
How long before Mike Fishman’s laptop is announced as the team’s  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/26/2021 12:10 pm : link
manager? Apparently he’s been on the payroll since 2005, holy cow is right….

The analytics dept probably figured out that Lasagna’s power sinker dips more on the second night of a back-to-back, so he needed to come in no matter what.

How soon before ticket buying fans are told to stay home and delivered a virtual goggle…
Fishman should plug this into his laptop  
arniefez : 7/26/2021 2:32 pm : link
Red Sox 40-Man Tax Payroll:
$190,985,801

The Red Sox are on track for 99 wins = 1,929m per win

Tampa Rays 40-Man Tax Payroll:
$74,661,520

The Rays are on track for 97 wins = $770K per win

The Blue Jays 40-Man Tax Payroll:
$141,330,675

The Blue Jays are on track for 83 wins = 1,702m per win

New York Yankees 40-Man Tax Payroll:
$191,170,828

The Yankees are on track for 84 wins = 2,275m per win

Chapman 17m, Britton 13m, Wilson 3m, Green 2m, O-Day 2m = almost 50% of the entire Rays 40 man tax payroll. 5 relief pitchers in an exploding bullpen. Britton, Wilson & O-Day (who is probably done for the year) have pitched 35 innings total this season.

Not exactly payroll efficiency. There is zero accountability for anything on the field from the top down. There are no repercussions from ownership regarding the front office for players making 100's of millions of dollars that don't play anywhere near their paychecks or that don't even get on the field.

The entire on field baseball operation is being run out of the front office. Cashman/Fishman and group make the payroll decisions and build the roster. The field Mgr just follows orders.

Between Girardi and Boone there has been no on the field personality or performance difference, there has been no difference in "resting" players or deploying the bullpen and as people they couldn't be more opposite. One of us may as well manage the team at this point nothing would change. How can we expect guys to be benched or disciplined for not knowing how many outs there are when they're on 1B or getting picked off 2B when the Mgr. doesn't have any authority?

The Yankees organizational philosophy and strategies seem out dated, out of touch, stale and rotting from the head not the tail. If the ownership thinks changing the Mgr. and doing the same thing over and over with the same front office will produce different results they're insane.
Microcosm Of Yankee's Season  
LTIsTheGreatest : 7/26/2021 3:02 pm : link
Stanton comes up with bases loaded, 1 out 7th inning, a chance to really pad the lead, strikes out meekly.

Comes up with 2 out, nobody on in the 9th, singles.
RE: Microcosm Of Yankee's Season  
Victor in CT : 7/26/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15313506 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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Stanton comes up with bases loaded, 1 out 7th inning, a chance to really pad the lead, strikes out meekly.

Comes up with 2 out, nobody on in the 9th, singles.


more a microcosm of Stanton. I thought that when I saw it.
A few things on Stanton  
arniefez : 7/26/2021 4:02 pm : link
1. We said the same thing about A-Rod and it was true. K's in the important AB and gets a hit with the bases empty.

2. There is a cause and affect here. The Yankees have a lot of 3 outcome hitters. Pitchers and catchers work them differently in high leverage ABs. The 2021 Yankees have this problem up and down their lineup. Stanton is just the most glaring example.
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