Jabrill Peppers is the New York Giants heat seeking missile.
He came to the team in the controversial OBJ trade, had an up and down year under Shurmur before getting hurt, and then really started to flourish with Judge and Graham.
He’s playing on the final year of his rookie deal, his fifth year option. His contract has not been a distraction publicly and his teammates appear to love him.
He’s going to want be to be paid top dollar, but the Giants have doubled down on Logan Ryan, drafted potential stud Xavier McKinney with a second round pick and have solid depth with Julian Love.
Any shot this gets resolved before camp opens? Do you expect Peppers to be resigned during the season? Do you expect him to walk in FA next off season?
I do not disagree...
Peppers
Hernandez
Engram
Who would you extend?*
* I said Peppers & Hernandez b/c they haven’t been able to figure out how to use Easy E.
Peppers
Hernandez
Engram
Who would you extend?*
* I said Peppers & Hernandez b/c they haven’t been able to figure out how to use Easy E.
"Easy E" hasn't figured out how to catch a football.
He’s the type of a guy you need to see a solid year from before committing to in my view.
He strikes me as a player that some in the market will overvalue, perhaps way overvalue. And my guess is he isn't a Giant for the long haul if that is the case...
Assuming peppers has confidence in his ability, I do not think either side has much of an incentive to cut a deal now.
Totally agree. I see him and Hernandez getting extensions if they play well this season. Engram will be history even if he plays decent this year.
If he has a so so season, they will not re-sign him and take the compensatory pick. The next offseason they will not sign any high priced free agents and only use the draft to get better
hernandez and engram are as good as gone after this year as they should be. hopefully each plays well and earn a nice contract from someone else for comp pick purposes
Good teams lose good players all the time, so it is what it is if the defense plays as good as last year or better. It means we are doing something right.
Peppers is a better player at this point as well.
Thanks Gettleman, Judge, Graham, etc., etc.
Thanks Gettleman, Judge, Graham, etc., etc.
How about we win some games first?
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to read a discussion on who we can keep and who we might lose instead of a discussion of "How the hell are we going to fill all those holes?"
Thanks Gettleman, Judge, Graham, etc., etc.
How about we win some games first?
They aren’t playing games yet. What’s the point of talking about anything then?
Thanks Gettleman, Judge, Graham, etc., etc.
Agre, but keep the right perspective here. Not everybody should be asking for a bonus...
Do I think he will…no
Does it make sense to…I believe so but obviously at the right price, which I’m ok with what might seem to be an overpay. Any deal they make this year will be a lot less then what next years market looks like. The safety market is about the explode. Jamal Adams, Mathieu, Williams, plus others inline for new contracts.
I like Budda Baker as a comparable, so 15M/yr is the likely cost. But You have to look at the details. Bakers 15M/ is a lot different then Collins 15M/.
That’s a big bill when you have depth at the position, but he, like Tomlinson, are they type of guys you want to keep. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out though. So we shall see.
Do I think he will…no
Does it make sense to…I believe so but obviously at the right price, which I’m ok with what might seem to be an overpay. Any deal they make this year will be a lot less then what next years market looks like. The safety market is about the explode. Jamal Adams, Mathieu, Williams, plus others inline for new contracts.
I like Budda Baker as a comparable, so 15M/yr is the likely cost. But You have to look at the details. Bakers 15M/ is a lot different then Collins 15M/.
That’s a big bill when you have depth at the position, but he, like Tomlinson, are they type of guys you want to keep. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out though. So we shall see.
that's a damn fine post...
Jabrill is going to have to be head and shoulders better than McKinney and Love if we are going to give him a long term deal IMO... that or he has to play LB next to Blake more and idk if that's going to happen but I would like to see it.
Good back-ups do sometimes become quality starters...
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and not a reason for figuring out what the Giants will or should do at Safety or Corner.
Good back-ups do sometimes become quality starters...
That's not going to happen with Love. A fine roster player and not a big liability as a starter, but not a plus player nevertheless...
I typically wouldn't advocate paying a S top dollar - unless it's a freak like Ed Reed - but if Peppers puts together another quality season, like he did last year, we're going to have something to think about...
I typically wouldn't advocate paying a S top dollar - unless it's a freak like Ed Reed - but if Peppers puts together another quality season, like he did last year, we're going to have something to think about...
bw..gut feeling, is Peppers on the 2022 Giants?
I say yes..he seems to love playing here, is a quality player that fits the multiple skills quality Judge/Graham love so much.
I typically wouldn't advocate paying a S top dollar - unless it's a freak like Ed Reed - but if Peppers puts together another quality season, like he did last year, we're going to have something to think about...
bw..gut feeling, is Peppers on the 2022 Giants?
I say yes..he seems to love playing here, is a quality player that fits the multiple skills quality Judge/Graham love so much.
Peppers is a better player at this point as well.
My thought the exact moment the Ryan extension happened. And if we really do mold ourselves after the Patriots, Bill consistently let pass rushers walk while Chung and McCourty were partners for multiple contracts.
Peppers is better now than Chung ever was.
Peppers
Hernandez
Engram
Who would you extend?*
* I said Peppers & Hernandez b/c they haven’t been able to figure out how to use Easy E.
Engram can't catch the ball. No way in hell I'd pay him before Peppers.
I think S is a premier position for Graham.
He's worth it but I wouldn't do it right now because you can just do it after the season if he still proves it in 2021. I'm willing to roll the dice on his pricetag going up.
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A Landon Collins type of contract right now? Just curious...
He's worth it but I wouldn't do it right now because you can just do it after the season if he still proves it in 2021. I'm willing to roll the dice on his pricetag going up.
We could potentially clear some cap space by getting it in advance, and potentially save on the contract itself. But, it seems like the Giants have been content to let players dictate their value in the final year of a contract for some time, so I don't see that happening.
I do think it should be said though, Jabrill Peppers was a big part of the recruiting efforts this year with Kenny Golladay and Adoree Jackson. He wants to be here so I have to imagine something will work out.