for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

NFT: MLB Thread: Pirates trade Adam Frazier to Padres

adamg : 7/25/2021 6:51 pm
Ken Rosenthal Retweeted
RobBiertempfel
@RobBiertempfel
·
4m
Source confirms: Pirates trade Adam Frazier to Padres.
@JeffPassan
on it first.
.  
adamg : 7/25/2021 6:55 pm : link
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
·
1m
Tucupita Marcano and Jake Suwinski among players headed from Padres to Pirates for Adam Frazier if deal is completed, sources tell me and
@Dennistlin
. In medical review stage.
Were those  
JayBinQueens : 7/25/2021 7:13 pm : link
Highly rated prospects? What would have been the Mets equivalent
Huge deal for Padres  
allstarjim : 7/25/2021 7:13 pm : link
Probably moves Profar to the bench, really lengthens that lineup. Really have a lot of respect for Frazier's game.
.  
adamg : 7/25/2021 7:18 pm : link
Quote:
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
· 18m
Marcano, 21, is an infielder who has a .485 OPS in 50 plate appearances with the Padres this season but an .811 OPS at Triple A. Suwinski, 22, is an outfielder batting .269 with a .949 OPS at Double A. twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/…


Quote:
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
·
16m
The third player going to the Pirates, as reported by
@kileymcd
, is RHP Michell Miliano, 21, who is in Class A.


Quote:

RobBiertempfel
@RobBiertempfel
·
11m
Source: Pirates sent about $1.4M to Padres, which essentially gets Frazier down to the minimum for the rest of this season.
Ken Rosenthal Retweeted
RobBiertempfel
@RobBiertempfel
·
13m
For those who've asked ... Pirates included cash in the Frazier deal to boost caliber of return package.
RE: Were those  
KDavies : 7/25/2021 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15312962 JayBinQueens said:
Quote:
Highly rated prospects? What would have been the Mets equivalent


Marcano was the Padres #5 prospect, in a deep system. Others outside top 30.

Taking a stab at it, I’d say the equivalent of a Gimenez last year plus Ramirez (Suwinski has some damn good numbers and I guess he would be similarly ranked if in Mets org)
Marcano  
allstarjim : 7/25/2021 7:29 pm : link
Is 6th in their system. I'd guess he'd be a Vientos-caliber guy for them. Suwinski is having a blow up season in AA, 15 homers in 267 PAs, but hasn't shown thus type of power before in previous stops in their system before this season.

Marcano is the prize, although ge isn't in Fangraphs Top 100.
Btw I don't think Vientos is a comp  
allstarjim : 7/25/2021 7:30 pm : link
For Marcano, just saying they're probably thought of similarly in terms of prospect value.
Just in other MLB discussion  
JoeMoney19 : 7/25/2021 7:40 pm : link
I can't believe the Mariners are eight games over .500 and just 1.5 back of Oakland for the wild card. I guess I just haven't been paying attention to the AL West standings enough recently but I've thought of Seattle as a bottom tier team all season. Seems like they're winning a crazy number of tight games somehow.

Apparently they're making a push to acquire Merrifield.
RE: Marcano  
BigBlueShock : 7/25/2021 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15312971 allstarjim said:
Quote:
Is 6th in their system. I'd guess he'd be a Vientos-caliber guy for them. Suwinski is having a blow up season in AA, 15 homers in 267 PAs, but hasn't shown thus type of power before in previous stops in their system before this season.

Marcano is the prize, although ge isn't in Fangraphs Top 100.

I liked at BAs prospect report on him and it wasn’t exactly awe inspiring. Skinny, zero power, really fast but has no idea how to run the bases, etc. Doesn’t sound like much of a prospect to me but who knows
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/25/2021 7:58 pm : link
I hope the Padres win the World Series. I don't follow baseball that much...but how are the SF Giants in first in the West/best record in MLB?
80% sure  
capone : 7/25/2021 8:02 pm : link
Whitt Merrifield to Mariners the offer isnt moving KC trying to get more don’t think they will but who knows
And regarding this deal  
JoeMoney19 : 7/25/2021 8:03 pm : link
What the hell are the Pirates doing? Maybe they ultimately couldn't have done better, but why not at least try for another five days? Why would they just assume this is the best possible return?
Must be confusing to be a Pirates fan haha  
JoeMoney19 : 7/25/2021 8:04 pm : link
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
· 34m
Mariners also made offer for Adam Frazier and did not ask Pirates to put cash in deal, sources tell @TheAthletic. Pirates sent $1.4M to Padres in part because they value Marcano highly. If he evolves into Frazier type, Pirates get six years of him for 1-plus of Frazier.
RE: 80% sure  
JoeMoney19 : 7/25/2021 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15312987 capone said:
Quote:
Whitt Merrifield to Mariners the offer isnt moving KC trying to get more don’t think they will but who knows

I saw they were making a push to get him and was pretty surprised. I know they're making a great run and I've always been a big Merrifield fan but I'm not sure acquiring a 32 year old is what the Mariners should be doing. Plus he's under a pretty team friendly deal through 2023 so he will definitely not be cheap.
Frazier's a good player who's having a very good year. He's due to  
Ira : 7/25/2021 8:09 pm : link
get a lot more $$$ on his next contract and the Pirates know they won't want to pay it. I don't know the value of the players they got in return and whether they could have done better, but trading Frazier was not a bad idea.
RE: Frazier's a good player who's having a very good year. He's due to  
BigBlueShock : 7/25/2021 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15312993 Ira said:
Quote:
get a lot more $$$ on his next contract and the Pirates know they won't want to pay it. I don't know the value of the players they got in return and whether they could have done better, but trading Frazier was not a bad idea.

He’s got another year before FA. There was no need to rush a deal like this. It’s truly mind boggling. They could have dealt him in the off-season and had a bunch more teams involved. Everything I’ve read on Marciano has been less than complimentary. Maybe the Pirates know more than everyone else?
RE: RE: Frazier's a good player who's having a very good year. He's due to  
BigBlueShock : 7/25/2021 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15312995 BigBlueShock said:
Quote:
In comment 15312993 Ira said:


Quote:


get a lot more $$$ on his next contract and the Pirates know they won't want to pay it. I don't know the value of the players they got in return and whether they could have done better, but trading Frazier was not a bad idea.


He’s got another year before FA. There was no need to rush a deal like this. It’s truly mind boggling. They could have dealt him in the off-season and had a bunch more teams involved. Everything I’ve read on Marciano has been less than complimentary. Maybe the Pirates know more than everyone else?

Marcano, damn auto
I know Dipoto likes to deal  
JoeMoney19 : 7/25/2021 8:18 pm : link
but to me this potential Merrifield deal has getting ripped off all over it.
Did you guys know  
Bricktop : 7/25/2021 8:49 pm : link
that Adam Frazier won the Little League World Series?













🙂
I know, I know, but I can't help myself.  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/25/2021 8:53 pm : link
Why does the Pirates always seem to get ripped off on trades....except when it's with the Yankees?

I still can't believe Yajure, Smith, Contreras AND Escotto for someone coming off a second TJS.
RE: Just in other MLB discussion  
bw in dc : 7/25/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15312981 JoeMoney19 said:
Quote:
I can't believe the Mariners are eight games over .500 and just 1.5 back of Oakland for the wild card. I guess I just haven't been paying attention to the AL West standings enough recently but I've thought of Seattle as a bottom tier team all season. Seems like they're winning a crazy number of tight games somehow.

Apparently they're making a push to acquire Merrifield.


Consider this - the Mariners are dead last in BA (.218), dead last in OB% (.294), 26th in Slug% (.381), and 28th in OPS (.675). In other words, they are a disaster offensively.

And if you think pitching is the equalizer, they are only 18th in ERA (4.42) and 14th in WHiP (1.30).

The Seattle Mirrors.
How about when the Rays traded Chris Archer to the Pirates  
Jints in Carolina : 7/26/2021 10:28 am : link
For Tyler Glasnow, Shane Baz and Austin Meadows.

And then Archer re-signed with the Rays this year.

LMAO
RE: RE: Just in other MLB discussion  
capone : 7/26/2021 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15313022 bw in dc said:
Quote:
In comment 15312981 JoeMoney19 said:


Quote:


I can't believe the Mariners are eight games over .500 and just 1.5 back of Oakland for the wild card. I guess I just haven't been paying attention to the AL West standings enough recently but I've thought of Seattle as a bottom tier team all season. Seems like they're winning a crazy number of tight games somehow.

Apparently they're making a push to acquire Merrifield.



Consider this - the Mariners are dead last in BA (.218), dead last in OB% (.294), 26th in Slug% (.381), and 28th in OPS (.675). In other words, they are a disaster offensively.

And if you think pitching is the equalizer, they are only 18th in ERA (4.42) and 14th in WHiP (1.30).

The Seattle Mirrors.



They are 22-8 in 1 run games and The Mariners are 54-46 with a run differential of -52 this season.

They are the only team since 1901 to be at least 8 games over .500 through 100 games and have a run differential of -50 or worse.
Back to the Corner