can open your eyes to the type of shit they rant about. As long as they aren’t hypocrites and by all accounts they definitely aren’t. I don’t think you need to feel oppression to see it and advocate against it, it’s called empathy, something sorely lacking.
RE: I think as it pertains to Rage, I think having that type of upbringing
I don’t think you need to feel oppression to see it and advocate against it, it’s called empathy, something sorely lacking.
Yeah but this part here is where I am a bit dubious. Are they really empathetic? I'm pretty sure a handful of them don't really care and just want to make quick, lazy way to make money to reach a bunch of dumb kids who don't know any better.
Please. Not a day goes by where I don't hear the word empathy. I hate the "care" era lol
They're communists who have spent their entire careers making millions on a label owned by a massive multinational corporation. I enjoy the music despite their politics, which I find repugnant, but they are enormous hypocrites.
Mick Jones didn't have much of a different upbringing than Strummer other than being a non-practicing (I think) jew and dealing with the oppression of that in London .
yet they could preach all day about "the man" and had credibility.
Unless you grew up like Sid Vicious you're probably not writing/singing from experience.
I think the poser angle is more relevant in hip hop or rap than punk.
What I said was actually a response to someone above criticizing and being skeptical of Kid Rock's background. I was just adding to the discussion "yeah. not all of these guys come from bumpy upbringing and are phonies."
Yeah. I used to have so much info on rappers and how they had rich parents talking about how they grew up in the middle of the hood, or whatever.
Now? 20+ years later, I highly doubt I can even remember half their names. Rap is kind of corny. Well, the rap I grew up with. I have 0 idea of what is popular today. I don't even want to know.
They're communists who have spent their entire careers making millions on a label owned by a massive multinational corporation. I enjoy the music despite their politics, which I find repugnant, but they are enormous hypocrites.
Are they really communists though, or do they just wear the shirts? I don't think they have anything against making money, just hoarding it. Against the people in power using their leverage against the work force, using the system to gain on the backs of others, keeping the working classes down, etc. These guys could have made a ton more than they did, are very philanthropic, and don't gouge their customers. They are more against systemic issues that keep people down and enrich some at the expense of others. Nobody is forcing people to go to their shows or buy the merchandise, and they keep the prices reasonable for their fanbase.
Yeah but this part here is where I am a bit dubious. Are they really empathetic? I'm pretty sure a handful of them don't really care and just want to make quick, lazy way to make money to reach a bunch of dumb kids who don't know any better.
Please. Not a day goes by where I don't hear the word empathy. I hate the "care" era lol
Mick Jones didn't have much of a different upbringing than Strummer other than being a non-practicing (I think) jew and dealing with the oppression of that in London .
yet they could preach all day about "the man" and had credibility.
Unless you grew up like Sid Vicious you're probably not writing/singing from experience.
I think the poser angle is more relevant in hip hop or rap than punk.
What I said was actually a response to someone above criticizing and being skeptical of Kid Rock's background. I was just adding to the discussion "yeah. not all of these guys come from bumpy upbringing and are phonies."
Now? 20+ years later, I highly doubt I can even remember half their names. Rap is kind of corny. Well, the rap I grew up with. I have 0 idea of what is popular today. I don't even want to know.
Are they really communists though, or do they just wear the shirts? I don't think they have anything against making money, just hoarding it. Against the people in power using their leverage against the work force, using the system to gain on the backs of others, keeping the working classes down, etc. These guys could have made a ton more than they did, are very philanthropic, and don't gouge their customers. They are more against systemic issues that keep people down and enrich some at the expense of others. Nobody is forcing people to go to their shows or buy the merchandise, and they keep the prices reasonable for their fanbase.