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LB Blake Martinez, S Joshua Kalu on COVID List

Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/27/2021 5:36 pm
Kadarius Toney is off of it.

And so  
N9NE11 : 7/27/2021 5:53 pm : link
It begins!!
Interesting Options available for these guys  
Angus : 7/27/2021 6:02 pm : link
If they are on the list for actually having Covid, we will have to hope for them to have a solid recovery. I hope they are getting the monoclonal antibodies. Joe Judge talked a little bit about what they learned last season about how recoveries can vary. From what he said, it sounded like some of the players that got Covid did not recover well during the season. We can read into that what we like when we talk about players that did not play as well, or did not play at all, after their time with the disease.

It also sets up those players for alternatives that will allow them to follow up their recoveries with a single shot of the one of the two shot regimens and have that carry strong coverage through the season.
RE: Interesting Options available for these guys  
section125 : 7/27/2021 6:49 pm : link
In comment 15314481 Angus said:
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It also sets up those players for alternatives that will allow them to follow up their recoveries with a single shot of the one of the two shot regimens and have that carry strong coverage through the season.


If they already have had the vaccine(presumably Moderna or Pfizer) why would you need any more? The original vax plus the anti-bodies from actual virus should make them stronger than most other people's immune systems. Plus, IIRC, you should not have the vaccine within 90 days of infection.
Ugh…  
trueblueinpw : 7/27/2021 6:52 pm : link
Martinez is obviously a very important part of the defense. This damn virus.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2021 7:05 pm : link
If one is on COVID List, does it mean they have COVID? Or just were exposed to? And if vaccinated, how long does one have to stay on it if a breakthrough case?
hope they are vaccinated  
Youtoo : 7/27/2021 7:06 pm : link
When they get off i hope the press drills them to see if they are vaccinated and if they are not they re publicly shamed.
Blake Martinez is vaccinated  
Youtoo : 7/27/2021 7:10 pm : link
So he just needs 2 negative tests to come back. Its likely he just had a little bit of virus in his nose. Very few vaxxed people have issues

https://twitter.com/big__blake50/status/1420127657602306059?s=21

The rate of breakthrough cases is extremely low  
PwndPapi : 7/27/2021 7:52 pm : link
NJ recently published their numbers out of something like 4.4 vaccinated folks, they reported something like 82 breakthrough cases. Something like .00003%.

Whatsmore, if Martinez is vaccinated and a breakthrough case (if if), his symptoms will be mild and not life-threatening.
It could also be exposure  
Ben in Tampa : 7/27/2021 7:54 pm : link
They don’t have to have actually tested positive to be on the list
This is probably going to be common across the league  
DavidinBMNY : 7/27/2021 8:27 pm : link
And more common with teams that have players coming in from less vaccinated areas.
RE: Blake Martinez is vaccinated  
Bill L : 7/27/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15314518 Youtoo said:
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So he just needs 2 negative tests to come back. Its likely he just had a little bit of virus in his nose. Very few vaxxed people have issues

https://twitter.com/big__blake50/status/1420127657602306059?s=21


I wonder if that’s really the case. As pointed out before, the breakthrough rate is extremely low but that’s monitoring people who get sick and have reason to be tested, unlike a player who gets tested every other minute. If you get exposed, and are always being tested, it makes sense that a sensitive test like pcr could detect it before the immune system eliminates it.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2021 8:38 pm : link
The whole COVID testing is weird. I was fully vaccinated February 11th. But I have-& this is going back years-a runny nose in the summer. Is it COVID? Probably not since this is dating back pre COVID, but a runny nose is a symptom of COVID so I would have to be checked if I was an NFL player? The symptoms of COVID vary to such a degree-trouble breathing to a stuffy nose-that it's impossible, without a test, to know if one has it. And then there's the false positives.

This will be an interesting season.
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section125 : 7/27/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15314592 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The whole COVID testing is weird. I was fully vaccinated February 11th. But I have-& this is going back years-a runny nose in the summer. Is it COVID? Probably not since this is dating back pre COVID, but a runny nose is a symptom of COVID so I would have to be checked if I was an NFL player? The symptoms of COVID vary to such a degree-trouble breathing to a stuffy nose-that it's impossible, without a test, to know if one has it. And then there's the false positives.

This will be an interesting season.


Isn't loss of smell and taste the one symptom that is virtually always there - even if there are no other symptoms?
I was just about to post that is not true  
GeoMan999 : 7/27/2021 9:37 pm : link
And then I researched and saw this, very surprising as my wife and I did not have the symptom when we had Covid.

“About 86 percent of people who have COVID-19 lose some or all of their ability to smell. But the majority who lost their sense of smell (almost 55 percent) had a mild form of the disease, according to new researchTrusted Source published this week.”
Martinez is a thug  
jlukes : 7/28/2021 7:14 am : link
Gotta wonder how much he actually cares about football
A lot less outrage  
10thAve : 7/28/2021 7:33 am : link
than the guy who got placed into the protocol last week (who has since been activated).
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Gatorade Dunk : 7/28/2021 7:40 am : link
In comment 15314607 section125 said:
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The whole COVID testing is weird. I was fully vaccinated February 11th. But I have-& this is going back years-a runny nose in the summer. Is it COVID? Probably not since this is dating back pre COVID, but a runny nose is a symptom of COVID so I would have to be checked if I was an NFL player? The symptoms of COVID vary to such a degree-trouble breathing to a stuffy nose-that it's impossible, without a test, to know if one has it. And then there's the false positives.

This will be an interesting season.



Isn't loss of smell and taste the one symptom that is virtually always there - even if there are no other symptoms?

If I'm not mistaken, I thought I read somewhere that Delta doesn't necessarily present with loss of taste/smell, but can sometimes present with loss of hearing (or reduction of hearing, to be more precise).

I don't have the energy to double source everything I read, so I'm not sure if that's accurate at all.
Its something that we are going to have to learn to live with  
anon837 : 7/28/2021 7:47 am : link
And I am paraphrasing what was said in 2020. SARS Cov2 is here to stay for a while. Some people fight with vaccines, others fight with boosting their natural immune system, and still, others fight with prophylactic regimens. I hope everything is being considered for the well-being of the players (and coaches) and their families. And selfishly, I want to see some football. I got Big Blue going 10 and 7 this year.
RE: Martinez is a thug  
GMAN4LIFE : 7/28/2021 9:37 am : link
In comment 15314726 jlukes said:
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Gotta wonder how much he actually cares about football


huh?
Has to be frustrating for the vaccinated players  
nygiants16 : 7/28/2021 9:38 am : link
in the real world if they had no symptoms they woukdnt even test them and be told you dont have to quarantine..

My 3 year old tested positive, and because me and my wife were both vaccinated and asymptomatic they told us we didnt have to quarantine unless we show synptoms and wouldnt test us..
RE: RE: Martinez is a thug  
Tyrion : 7/28/2021 9:41 am : link
In comment 15314869 GMAN4LIFE said:
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Gotta wonder how much he actually cares about football



huh?


People say this about Toney
RE: RE: Interesting Options available for these guys  
k2tampa : 7/28/2021 10:38 am : link
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It also sets up those players for alternatives that will allow them to follow up their recoveries with a single shot of the one of the two shot regimens and have that carry strong coverage through the season.



If they already have had the vaccine(presumably Moderna or Pfizer) why would you need any more? The original vax plus the anti-bodies from actual virus should make them stronger than most other people's immune systems. Plus, IIRC, you should not have the vaccine within 90 days of infection.


Gleyber Torres had the vaccine, and had previously had Covid in December or January, and he got Covid a second time when it hit the Yankees coaching staff. Don't make assumptions based on "logic" about combined immunity. Plus, your immune system doesn't keep you from getting Covid; hopefully it keeps it from becoming severe.
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PwndPapi : 7/28/2021 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15314607 section125 said:
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The whole COVID testing is weird. I was fully vaccinated February 11th. But I have-& this is going back years-a runny nose in the summer. Is it COVID? Probably not since this is dating back pre COVID, but a runny nose is a symptom of COVID so I would have to be checked if I was an NFL player? The symptoms of COVID vary to such a degree-trouble breathing to a stuffy nose-that it's impossible, without a test, to know if one has it. And then there's the false positives.

This will be an interesting season.



Isn't loss of smell and taste the one symptom that is virtually always there - even if there are no other symptoms?


Loss of taste and smell, though a common symptom, does not always present for symptomatic patients. I would say a lot lower than the 80 or 90% mentioned above.

I work in the field of Covid response. Take it for what it's worth.
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