as far as I know no one else really had interest so the Giants atleast gave him one. Maybe next time you make the best of your last chance, come in in shape, hungry and not full of excuses.
I guess there’s a chance he’s telling the truth but I doubt it.
he came in to mini camp at 265, they asked him to get down to 251 and showed up at 268 and they cut him...
way to work hard for your last chance
You won’t even let me on the field to show what I can do. I played receiver at 268 [pounds] and I almost had 1,000 yards [in 2016]. So why do you want me to come back at 251 at tight end?” Link - ( New Window )
Benjamin plans to move back to Florida and “try and relax and just get back to living life. That’s the biggest reason why I walked away from football in the first place. A lot of it ain’t real. It ain’t real. It’s a lot of fake narratives. All I ever wanted to do was play football. I came from a small town not too many people make it out of. But everything is a joke now. Everybody is always funny. At some point, we have to grow up as humans.”
This dude had some skeletons in his closet before he got here.
Benjamin plans to move back to Florida and “try and relax and just get back to living life. That’s the biggest reason why I walked away from football in the first place. A lot of it ain’t real. It ain’t real. It’s a lot of fake narratives. All I ever wanted to do was play football. I came from a small town not too many people make it out of. But everything is a joke now. Everybody is always funny. At some point, we have to grow up as humans.”
This dude had some skeletons in his closet before he got here.
Problem is he did grow up as a human - all the way to 268 lbs.
Judge talking with him for a long time during the tryout about how to catch the ball and tuck it away? I made a comment at the time that it is fuckin embarrassing that he needs the HC to come over and tell him how to do shit you learn in middle school. So I call bullshit om Judge never talking to him before he was signed.
Judge talking with him for a long time during the tryout about how to catch the ball and tuck it away? I made a comment at the time that it is fuckin embarrassing that he needs the HC to come over and tell him how to do shit you learn in middle school. So I call bullshit om Judge never talking to him before he was signed.
I think you are correct. I remember thinking it was possibly a good sign for him that the HC was dealing directly with a tryout player.
who's never blocked as a TE is a bit odd to me. But a player willingly coming into camp 17 pounds over is very telling.
That said, if your intention as an organization is to try to keep a guy, you give him a chance to drop the weight over a portion of camp. A portion. They didn't even do that!
If he isn't making progress, then bye bye.
So I'm perplexed by the fact that he was bounced immediately. Some things were definitely said on the field and that was that. Judge don't play.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
Benjamin's gripe with Joe Judge not talking to him a day before and letting him know he was upset about his weight. THEY TOLD YOU BACK IN MINI-CAMP TO LOSE THE WEIGHT! Does he think he's going to drop all that weight in a day if Joe Judge HAD said something to him the day prior? What a nut case!!!!
He’s trying to run a training camp. He’s building the program for 2021. And this dude whose been a massive bust, gets a mini camp tryout and invited to camp loses his shit over being called out? No wonder this guy hasn’t stuck in the league.
Look, I sometimes take home leftover work from work,
who's never blocked as a TE is a bit odd to me. But a player willingly coming into camp 17 pounds over is very telling.
That said, if your intention as an organization is to try to keep a guy, you give him a chance to drop the weight over a portion of camp. A portion. They didn't even do that!
If he isn't making progress, then bye bye.
So I'm perplexed by the fact that he was bounced immediately. Some things were definitely said on the field and that was that. Judge don't play.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
I think the 251 was probably exactly right. There is NO WAY they want a guy switching to a new position to become a blocking TE. They want a match up TE, a former receiver who could possibly play in EE's role if he were to be injured. Rudolph is the do it all TE, EE the move and down the field TE. KB would have been basically playing EE's role or type of role. The dude sounds like a jackass. A guy who literally calls back to his 2016 playing weight (at younger age adn without the recent injury history) as some sort of proof of what he can do.
Here is how I see it- Judge said be back at 251 and the idiot shows up 7 lbs heavier than the weight he started at. To me this is Judge letting people know you don't tow the line, you don't belong here.
RE: Look, I sometimes take home leftover work from work,
I'm not precisely sure what Benjamin was expecting. He'd been out of the league for two seasons. Did he expect to be courted by the head coach like he was some high value free agent prospect?
RE: RE: Look, I sometimes take home leftover work from work,
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
RE: Look, I sometimes take home leftover work from work,
why shouldn’t Benjamin be able to do the same? Not a good look for Judge and Gettleman imo, not a good luck at all.
The food story wasnt true. Well, I mean, that food story wasnt true. But he was 17 lbs over the weight they asked him to report at, so I guess its kinda still a food story...
who's never blocked as a TE is a bit odd to me. But a player willingly coming into camp 17 pounds over is very telling.
That said, if your intention as an organization is to try to keep a guy, you give him a chance to drop the weight over a portion of camp. A portion. They didn't even do that!
If he isn't making progress, then bye bye.
So I'm perplexed by the fact that he was bounced immediately. Some things were definitely said on the field and that was that. Judge don't play.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
I think the 251 was probably exactly right. There is NO WAY they want a guy switching to a new position to become a blocking TE. They want a match up TE, a former receiver who could possibly play in EE's role if he were to be injured. Rudolph is the do it all TE, EE the move and down the field TE. KB would have been basically playing EE's role or type of role. The dude sounds like a jackass. A guy who literally calls back to his 2016 playing weight (at younger age adn without the recent injury history) as some sort of proof of what he can do.
Here is how I see it- Judge said be back at 251 and the idiot shows up 7 lbs heavier than the weight he started at. To me this is Judge letting people know you don't tow the line, you don't belong here.
It's not a bad point at all. I hear you. But my counter is that there are better options out there and DG doesn't always have to do into the shallow Carolina well.
RE: RE: RE: Look, I sometimes take home leftover work from work,
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
Mad Mike just Jints ya.
RE: RE: RE: Look, I sometimes take home leftover work from work,
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
What you said was incoherent. Who cares if you take work home and what does that have to do with a player making weight. Supposedly he had 6 weeks to lose weight and he gained weight. Why is that petty? Coach says we want you at 251, then you come in at 251 not 268? This is not little league.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Look, I sometimes take home leftover work from work,
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
What you said was incoherent. Who cares if you take work home and what does that have to do with a player making weight. Supposedly he had 6 weeks to lose weight and he gained weight. Why is that petty? Coach says we want you at 251, then you come in at 251 not 268? This is not little league.
Sounds like MM's response was under the pretense that the earlier (and false) reports of Benjamin stealing food from the facility were accurate.
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
What you said was incoherent. Who cares if you take work home and what does that have to do with a player making weight. Supposedly he had 6 weeks to lose weight and he gained weight. Why is that petty? Coach says we want you at 251, then you come in at 251 not 268? This is not little league.
Sounds like MM's response was under the pretense that the earlier (and false) reports of Benjamin stealing food from the facility were accurate.
I re-read it 5 times and just now caught the leftovers not as work but as food.
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
What you said was incoherent. Who cares if you take work home and what does that have to do with a player making weight. Supposedly he had 6 weeks to lose weight and he gained weight. Why is that petty? Coach says we want you at 251, then you come in at 251 not 268? This is not little league.
Sounds like MM's response was under the pretense that the earlier (and false) reports of Benjamin stealing food from the facility were accurate.
I re-read it 5 times and just now caught the leftovers not as work but as food.
Sorry Mike - misread that
So funny, I too should have realized MM meant leftover food not work. Kind of thought he was an asshole for a while.
So it is a lie that he didn't talk to Judge before he was signed. And I still think it is ridiculous that a HC has to tell an NFL receiver how to tuck a ball away after a catch. It is embarrassing. Link - ( New Window )
I was hoping this would be some sort of career rejuvenation for Benjamin and he’d play a nice situational role for us this year.
What’s interesting is him saying he’s done with the league. That makes me think it’s not Judge, he just spent enough time outside of football to realize he can’t hack it anymore and is casting blame to make himself feel good about his decision. Judge said “strike 2” according to him, not “strike 3”. He made that decision for himself.
RE: RE: RE: Look, I sometimes take home leftover work from work,
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
You're...not serious right? Please tell me you're not serious.
I was hoping this would be some sort of career rejuvenation for Benjamin and he’d play a nice situational role for us this year.
What’s interesting is him saying he’s done with the league. That makes me think it’s not Judge, he just spent enough time outside of football to realize he can’t hack it anymore and is casting blame to make himself feel good about his decision. Judge said “strike 2” according to him, not “strike 3”. He made that decision for himself.
100%. If they wanted him off the team they wouldn't have had him even run. Players get weighed when they come in. You can bet your ass that Judge was well aware of his weight prior to today. If he wanted him gone then he'd be gone prior to a scene taking place on the field. What were the 2 strikes?
So it is a lie that he didn't talk to Judge before he was signed. And I still think it is ridiculous that a HC has to tell an NFL receiver how to tuck a ball away after a catch. It is embarrassing. Link - ( New Window )
That know-it-all was probably just cursing at him the whole time there in that clip.
;-)
RE: RE: Here is the clip of Judge with Benjamin during tryouts
So it is a lie that he didn't talk to Judge before he was signed. And I still think it is ridiculous that a HC has to tell an NFL receiver how to tuck a ball away after a catch. It is embarrassing. Link - ( New Window )
That know-it-all was probably just cursing at him the whole time there in that clip.
;-)
I'd love to listen to a meeting where he's fired up.
way to work hard for your last chance
I guess there’s a chance he’s telling the truth but I doubt it.
of...
way to work hard for your last chance
You won’t even let me on the field to show what I can do. I played receiver at 268 [pounds] and I almost had 1,000 yards [in 2016]. So why do you want me to come back at 251 at tight end?”
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I'm going to side with JJ on this one...Benjamin has a history of being lazy and unmotivated.
This dude had some skeletons in his closet before he got here.
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Benjamin plans to move back to Florida and “try and relax and just get back to living life. That’s the biggest reason why I walked away from football in the first place. A lot of it ain’t real. It ain’t real. It’s a lot of fake narratives. All I ever wanted to do was play football. I came from a small town not too many people make it out of. But everything is a joke now. Everybody is always funny. At some point, we have to grow up as humans.”
This dude had some skeletons in his closet before he got here.
Problem is he did grow up as a human - all the way to 268 lbs.
I think you are correct. I remember thinking it was possibly a good sign for him that the HC was dealing directly with a tryout player.
That said, if your intention as an organization is to try to keep a guy, you give him a chance to drop the weight over a portion of camp. A portion. They didn't even do that!
If he isn't making progress, then bye bye.
So I'm perplexed by the fact that he was bounced immediately. Some things were definitely said on the field and that was that. Judge don't play.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
That said, if your intention as an organization is to try to keep a guy, you give him a chance to drop the weight over a portion of camp. A portion. They didn't even do that!
If he isn't making progress, then bye bye.
So I'm perplexed by the fact that he was bounced immediately. Some things were definitely said on the field and that was that. Judge don't play.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
I think the 251 was probably exactly right. There is NO WAY they want a guy switching to a new position to become a blocking TE. They want a match up TE, a former receiver who could possibly play in EE's role if he were to be injured. Rudolph is the do it all TE, EE the move and down the field TE. KB would have been basically playing EE's role or type of role. The dude sounds like a jackass. A guy who literally calls back to his 2016 playing weight (at younger age adn without the recent injury history) as some sort of proof of what he can do.
Here is how I see it- Judge said be back at 251 and the idiot shows up 7 lbs heavier than the weight he started at. To me this is Judge letting people know you don't tow the line, you don't belong here.
What???
Nothing like a little tone setting for camp!
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
The food story wasnt true. Well, I mean, that food story wasnt true. But he was 17 lbs over the weight they asked him to report at, so I guess its kinda still a food story...
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who's never blocked as a TE is a bit odd to me. But a player willingly coming into camp 17 pounds over is very telling.
That said, if your intention as an organization is to try to keep a guy, you give him a chance to drop the weight over a portion of camp. A portion. They didn't even do that!
If he isn't making progress, then bye bye.
So I'm perplexed by the fact that he was bounced immediately. Some things were definitely said on the field and that was that. Judge don't play.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
I think the 251 was probably exactly right. There is NO WAY they want a guy switching to a new position to become a blocking TE. They want a match up TE, a former receiver who could possibly play in EE's role if he were to be injured. Rudolph is the do it all TE, EE the move and down the field TE. KB would have been basically playing EE's role or type of role. The dude sounds like a jackass. A guy who literally calls back to his 2016 playing weight (at younger age adn without the recent injury history) as some sort of proof of what he can do.
Here is how I see it- Judge said be back at 251 and the idiot shows up 7 lbs heavier than the weight he started at. To me this is Judge letting people know you don't tow the line, you don't belong here.
It's not a bad point at all. I hear you. But my counter is that there are better options out there and DG doesn't always have to do into the shallow Carolina well.
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What???
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
Mad Mike just Jints ya.
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What???
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
What you said was incoherent. Who cares if you take work home and what does that have to do with a player making weight. Supposedly he had 6 weeks to lose weight and he gained weight. Why is that petty? Coach says we want you at 251, then you come in at 251 not 268? This is not little league.
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What???
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
What you said was incoherent. Who cares if you take work home and what does that have to do with a player making weight. Supposedly he had 6 weeks to lose weight and he gained weight. Why is that petty? Coach says we want you at 251, then you come in at 251 not 268? This is not little league.
Sounds like MM's response was under the pretense that the earlier (and false) reports of Benjamin stealing food from the facility were accurate.
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What???
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
What you said was incoherent. Who cares if you take work home and what does that have to do with a player making weight. Supposedly he had 6 weeks to lose weight and he gained weight. Why is that petty? Coach says we want you at 251, then you come in at 251 not 268? This is not little league.
Sounds like MM's response was under the pretense that the earlier (and false) reports of Benjamin stealing food from the facility were accurate.
I re-read it 5 times and just now caught the leftovers not as work but as food.
Sorry Mike - misread that
haha - high drama on the first day of training camp ...
good riddance
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What???
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
What you said was incoherent. Who cares if you take work home and what does that have to do with a player making weight. Supposedly he had 6 weeks to lose weight and he gained weight. Why is that petty? Coach says we want you at 251, then you come in at 251 not 268? This is not little league.
Sounds like MM's response was under the pretense that the earlier (and false) reports of Benjamin stealing food from the facility were accurate.
I re-read it 5 times and just now caught the leftovers not as work but as food.
Sorry Mike - misread that
So funny, I too should have realized MM meant leftover food not work. Kind of thought he was an asshole for a while.
It does read that way...it still reads weird.
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Hahaha.
It does read that way...it still reads weird.
I don't know what's going on anymore. It's all just so fuckin funny. Love it.
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What’s interesting is him saying he’s done with the league. That makes me think it’s not Judge, he just spent enough time outside of football to realize he can’t hack it anymore and is casting blame to make himself feel good about his decision. Judge said “strike 2” according to him, not “strike 3”. He made that decision for himself.
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What???
I don’t understand your question. Maybe you just don’t have all the facts about him being released, but it’s a disappointingly petty moment in NYG history.
You're...not serious right? Please tell me you're not serious.
What’s interesting is him saying he’s done with the league. That makes me think it’s not Judge, he just spent enough time outside of football to realize he can’t hack it anymore and is casting blame to make himself feel good about his decision. Judge said “strike 2” according to him, not “strike 3”. He made that decision for himself.
100%. If they wanted him off the team they wouldn't have had him even run. Players get weighed when they come in. You can bet your ass that Judge was well aware of his weight prior to today. If he wanted him gone then he'd be gone prior to a scene taking place on the field. What were the 2 strikes?
That know-it-all was probably just cursing at him the whole time there in that clip.
;-)
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So it is a lie that he didn't talk to Judge before he was signed. And I still think it is ridiculous that a HC has to tell an NFL receiver how to tuck a ball away after a catch. It is embarrassing. Link - ( New Window )
That know-it-all was probably just cursing at him the whole time there in that clip.
;-)
I'd love to listen to a meeting where he's fired up.