So it is a lie that he didn't talk to Judge before he was signed. And I still think it is ridiculous that a HC has to tell an NFL receiver how to tuck a ball away after a catch. It is embarrassing. Link - ( New Window )
That know-it-all was probably just cursing at him the whole time there in that clip.
;-)
I'd love to listen to a meeting where he's fired up.
You can’t be overweight At OTAs. it’s not even mandatory !!!! Lol now go asked them about Every training camp I came to .. was ready for war!! #imabuiltforthis #wordshaveneverhurtmyfeelings #icamefromnothing
Benjamin is/was simply a lesson for others. Giants are serious, follow
instructions, we will cut you. It was easy with Benjamin, the hope is a lesson will be learned by the other marginal players. Divas though will still be divas.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
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I hope {he} is ok
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 2:49 am : link : reply
mentally and physically, no matter what.
We're going on almost two years of madness worldwide. This shit is outta hand for the normal citizen.
Imagine having the weight of the {team} on your shoulders and you're {30.}
Sorry, but I have a ton of sympathy for these young athletes.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
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I hope {he} is ok
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 2:49 am : link : reply
mentally and physically, no matter what.
We're going on almost two years of madness worldwide. This shit is outta hand for the normal citizen.
Imagine having the weight of the {team} on your shoulders and you're {30.}
Sorry, but I have a ton of sympathy for these young athletes.
(whether you feel the league has treated you right overall or not) was rare. He needed to zip it up and do exactly what he was told
The weight number Judge gave him might have just been to see if he could commit to doing the work and finishing the task he'd been given. They might have wanted to see his peak speed and agility before building him up again with some muscle.
He decided he knew better, didn't come remotely close to meeting the goal, and was correctly released. The sour grapes just confirms he's not meant for an nfl roster
is like Coughlin if he were only dialed up to a 6 or a 7. And Coughlin's got two rings as a head coach, so if anything, there's a case to be made that Judge needs to be more of a shouty hardass.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
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I hope {he} is ok
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 2:49 am : link : reply
mentally and physically, no matter what.
We're going on almost two years of madness worldwide. This shit is outta hand for the normal citizen.
Imagine having the weight of the {team} on your shoulders and you're {30.}
Sorry, but I have a ton of sympathy for these young athletes.
What in the fuck is your idiotic point?
Are you comparing Simone Biles to Benjamin?
Are you drunk? Holy asshairs.
Well, yes. I'm comparing a football player that by most reasonable metrics is still a young man that has had documented body issues with a woman six years his younger, whom also has been at or near the pinnacle of their trade. Both athletes clearly have mental issues and are appealing for help. It appears you're fine to bash one but not another.
But please bore us more with regaling tales of how awesome and huge your son is and how great of a defensive lineman you were at Cuse 25 years ago with McNabb.
In a weirdly Machiavellian light was that Judge and DG planned this to use as an example to the rest of the team. Show up fucked up, you're fuckin out. And they do it basically in front of the whole team on the field.
Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
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I hope {he} is ok
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 2:49 am : link : reply
mentally and physically, no matter what.
We're going on almost two years of madness worldwide. This shit is outta hand for the normal citizen.
Imagine having the weight of the {team} on your shoulders and you're {30.}
Sorry, but I have a ton of sympathy for these young athletes.
What in the fuck is your idiotic point?
Are you comparing Simone Biles to Benjamin?
Are you drunk? Holy asshairs.
Well, yes. I'm comparing a football player that by most reasonable metrics is still a young man that has had documented body issues with a woman six years his younger, whom also has been at or near the pinnacle of their trade. Both athletes clearly have mental issues and are appealing for help. It appears you're fine to bash one but not another.
But please bore us more with regaling tales of how awesome and huge your son is and how great of a defensive lineman you were at Cuse 25 years ago with McNabb.
Was Benjamin sexually assaulted multiple times over several years by a USA Gymnastics-sanctioned predator? Was Benjamin saddled with the pressure of tens of millions of dollars in sponsorship money on the line? Was Benjamin on the biggest stage in the athletic universe right now? Was Benjamin in an extremely dangerous head space where the slightest of mistakes could mean paralysis or even death? Did Benjamin make a calculated decision to pursue other opportunities? Or did he slam his helmet to the turf and stomp off the field like a toddler?
You're a fucking dolt. Bringing my son into your pathetic post? Nice.
BurberryManning? Oh yeah, I remember him. He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
instructions, we will cut you. It was easy with Benjamin, the hope is a lesson will be learned by the other marginal players. Divas though will still be divas.
Absolutely, the silver lining to all of this is that this is a serious coach and a serious message was sent today
Surprised there are actually people who question this
Its coaching 101. You have a notoriously lazy, under achieving player. You give him a pretty simple task to test where his commitment is. He fails miserably. Bye Bye.
At Benjamins point in his career, he should have done EVERYTHING possible to lose that 17lbs. This is his last chance. And he not only didnt try, he GAINED. Come on man.
but coach does not want under any circumstances. I like that the coach won out here.
Fair or unfair to Benjamin, Judge didn’t want this guy on his team. If he was asked to get down to 251 and decided to gain weight, and he’s been out of football for a while, what did he expect to happen? If he felt like the coach didn’t like him (probably true, probably forced on him by Gettleman) wouldn’t it be in his best interests to get down to 251 and show that coach he can do that?
Sounds to me like there’s a reason he’s been out of the game for a bit, and also-it sounds to me like we have a coach that’s a tremendous force or personality for better or worse. In my opinion, it’s much better to have that type of guy leading your team than a guy who accepts mediocrity because a higher up forces it upon him. Bravo Judge.
people want to connect dots and create stories that don't exist. I seriously doubt that any player has been forced onto Joe judge by gettleman or anyone else. Did gettleman recommend Kelvin Benjamin to judge or ask him to at least try him out? Possibly, but definitely not force him to take him.
As far as Benjamin goes. He accuses Joe judge of being a know it all and yet he feels he knows what his playing weight should be. If the coach tells you to do something, do it, especially when you are fighting to just make the team.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
was brought up, that I wondered if DG brought in Benjamin and Judge did not want him. It was throwing shit 'agin' the wall.
I do not really think(and neither should you) that DG tried to place one of his former picks on the roster against Judge's wishes. If anything, this off season showed us that DG and Judge work very, very well together and DG went out and got players that Judge wanted. No doubt DG knows what Benjamin is capable of and perhaps they thought KB could be a viable backup for Engram as a 3rd down threat(and maybe a cheap replacement). While tall at 6'5", I doubt that 268 was in the right places to be successfully carried with his frame(despite what he says). He may have been told after making the 90 man roster that it was conditional on him making weight.
FWIW, players are cut all the time for conditioning reasons - especially fringe players. If you want your team to be good, your coach needs to be ruthless.
people want to connect dots and create stories that don't exist. I seriously doubt that any player has been forced onto Joe judge by gettleman or anyone else. Did gettleman recommend Kelvin Benjamin to judge or ask him to at least try him out? Possibly, but definitely not force him to take him.
As far as Benjamin goes. He accuses Joe judge of being a know it all and yet he feels he knows what his playing weight should be. If the coach tells you to do something, do it, especially when you are fighting to just make the team.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
I mean from what Benjamin is saying (take that with a grain of salt obviously) there aren’t many dots to connect. Could be a scorned player making something up but it also could be correct.
Exactly how should he have played it? Fringe roster guy with a history if effort/motivation questions who was out of football for 2 years gains weight when hes instructed to lose it. Then gets in an argument with the HC and GM when hes addressed about it.
Exactly what should Judge have done? Given him a hug? There are 8 or 9 TEs in the roster, you think they have time for that bullshit?
Exactly how should he have played it? Fringe roster guy with a history if effort/motivation questions who was out of football for 2 years gains weight when hes instructed to lose it. Then gets in an argument with the HC and GM when hes addressed about it.
Exactly what should Judge have done? Given him a hug? There are 8 or 9 TEs in the roster, you think they have time for that bullshit?
bait quickly then let it linger and potentially spread.
Plenty of players have praised Judge's approach. Seems like he is demanding but he holds himself to the same standard.
Coaches can be a lot of things in how they execute. Players will accept most things even if the don't like. The bottom line for any coach is winning. If you don't then problems usually arise with players. Pretty consistent with most leadership roles.
people want to connect dots and create stories that don't exist. I seriously doubt that any player has been forced onto Joe judge by gettleman or anyone else. Did gettleman recommend Kelvin Benjamin to judge or ask him to at least try him out? Possibly, but definitely not force him to take him.
As far as Benjamin goes. He accuses Joe judge of being a know it all and yet he feels he knows what his playing weight should be. If the coach tells you to do something, do it, especially when you are fighting to just make the team.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
I mean from what Benjamin is saying (take that with a grain of salt obviously) there aren’t many dots to connect. Could be a scorned player making something up but it also could be correct.
Benjamin also said that Joe judge never spoke to him prior to signing and yet there is a video proving otherwise. Benjamin also has no clue as to how judge felt. It's all speculation on his part. It would be one thing if Benjamin said that Joe judge told him he never wanted him here or something to that effect. I'm just saying that I don't see gettleman forcing a player on a coach and I don't see judge accepting players that he doesn't see fitting the team because they were forced on him.
This is a coach that wanted to meet with Golladay before he was signed.
This is also a coach where a lot of players drafted have SEC ties, but he is having players forced on him.
You are asked by team to lose 14Lbs but come in 3Lbs heavier....come on.
And going out door, slams coach...see ya.
Way too much was made of it....its over. Next man up
Bingo.
As for Judge, I’ve shared before that my buddy who sometimes works the sidelines for Patriots home games said several times Judge cusses like a sailor, and the players loved him.
Not a good look for Benjamin on the way out, but glad Giants have a staff that makes quick decisions on something like this
Feels a bit like the scene in Jerry Maguire where Jerry gets fired. Everyone stops for a minute while he rants on the way out the door, then goes right back to work as if nothing happened
He didn't get what he wanted so he found an alternate reason for failure. And now has basically said he is going back to the couch.
Zero accountability for ones own efforts.
Exactly. He gets a chance. He doesn't make the most of that chance. Then he rips the coach after not getting more of a chance, while lying about things along the way (saying Judge had never spoken to him)
There is a reason this dude has been out of the league for as long as he has been. Good luck in your post retirement life outside of sports. "Work" is not nearly as fun.
which was a condition of him having a shot at making the team. He's fat and soft, not an example for the younger guys to follow.
He's been out of the NFL for how long? Chances are slim he was going to make this team in the first place. Good spot to make an example out of a non-compliant whiner who isn't putting the team first. Adios.
"At the beginning of Wednesday’s practice, Benjamin jogged out for warm-ups, only for Judge to pull him aside. The two spoke for a few minutes. Eventually, Gettleman joined them. After the three men engaged in an animated discussion, Benjamin ripped off his helmet and left the field. He was cut a few hours later."
The fact is that its normal for teams to assign weights to players and fine them if they miss weight. Also, when he throws out the "I had almost 1000 yards at this weight" that was 2016, it was 5 years ago, not last season.
If this is what his attitude is like I'm glad he wasn't around the team for more than 1/10th of a practice.
1) If you are told to make a weight - Make it. If you disagree that conversation can happen. If you are going to blatantly ignore it intentionally how do you think the coach is going to react?
2) Not saying Judge has a winning track record, but sticking to your guns isn't a bad trait for a coach.
3) If DG brought Kelvin in here, and Judge didn't want the player from the get go, I think he would have spoken up.
4) Benjamin is a quitter. He quit just because of this? His heart and mind were never into it.
Benjamin has every right to speak his opinion, but methinks this is much ado about nothing and some news in the absence of more meaningful news. I had forgotten Benjamin was on the roster even until this.
but coach does not want under any circumstances. I like that the coach won out here.
Fair or unfair to Benjamin, Judge didn’t want this guy on his team. If he was asked to get down to 251 and decided to gain weight, and he’s been out of football for a while, what did he expect to happen? If he felt like the coach didn’t like him (probably true, probably forced on him by Gettleman) wouldn’t it be in his best interests to get down to 251 and show that coach he can do that?
Sounds to me like there’s a reason he’s been out of the game for a bit, and also-it sounds to me like we have a coach that’s a tremendous force or personality for better or worse. In my opinion, it’s much better to have that type of guy leading your team than a guy who accepts mediocrity because a higher up forces it upon him. Bravo Judge.
THis x100.
I feel like this is yet another example of who the king of the NYG is....and it ain't DG.
Sometimes coaches tell players to do something just to see
if they're willing to follow directions or go their own way. If they go their own way in a small thing, maybe they show the coach they're undisciplined or slightly egotistical. This weight objective may have been Judge's way of testing Benjamin.
1) If you are told to make a weight - Make it. If you disagree that conversation can happen. If you are going to blatantly ignore it intentionally how do you think the coach is going to react?
2) Not saying Judge has a winning track record, but sticking to your guns isn't a bad trait for a coach.
3) If DG brought Kelvin in here, and Judge didn't want the player from the get go, I think he would have spoken up.
4) Benjamin is a quitter. He quit just because of this? His heart and mind were never into it.
Just a leap, but maybe Judge did speak up before Benjamin was signed by DG and was not in favor of it. But Judge let it go because DG was doing a favor for his former player and he could always deal with it camp anyway if Benajmin turned out to be a joke. Just like he did.
I actually feel a bit bad for Benjamin, that victim mentality isn't healthy. He's seemed to go downhill quite a bit since his mother passed in 2016, I believe it was.
DG for signing Benjamin - clearly biased from their prior connection in Carolina even though Benjamin hasn’t played in years and has not played tight end before - and Benjamin for not complying with the directions on weight. Judge needs to set and enforce standards consistently. Time will tell if Benjamin’s view on Judge being too authoritarian to succeed will be true but there is plenty of evidence for that being a success (Parcells Coughlin Belichick Cowher are examples).
It was a strange - and I think stupid - idea to bring him in here. Like the Jonathan Stewart signing - except Benjamin was out of the league and very clearly past his prime. But Benjamin didn’t fit in terms of the offense and he didn’t fit in terms of the culture. It’s a bizarre signing. And it’s no surprise it didn’t work out.
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So it is a lie that he didn't talk to Judge before he was signed. And I still think it is ridiculous that a HC has to tell an NFL receiver how to tuck a ball away after a catch. It is embarrassing. Link - ( New Window )
That know-it-all was probably just cursing at him the whole time there in that clip.
;-)
I'd love to listen to a meeting where he's fired up.
I'm picturing something like this.
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Midas whale get rid of Benjamin now before he creates more issues.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
I hope {he} is ok
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 2:49 am : link : reply
mentally and physically, no matter what.
We're going on almost two years of madness worldwide. This shit is outta hand for the normal citizen.
Imagine having the weight of the {team} on your shoulders and you're {30.}
Sorry, but I have a ton of sympathy for these young athletes.
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Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
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I hope {he} is ok
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 2:49 am : link : reply
mentally and physically, no matter what.
We're going on almost two years of madness worldwide. This shit is outta hand for the normal citizen.
Imagine having the weight of the {team} on your shoulders and you're {30.}
Sorry, but I have a ton of sympathy for these young athletes.
What in the fuck is your idiotic point?
Are you comparing Simone Biles to Benjamin?
Are you drunk? Holy asshairs.
The weight number Judge gave him might have just been to see if he could commit to doing the work and finishing the task he'd been given. They might have wanted to see his peak speed and agility before building him up again with some muscle.
He decided he knew better, didn't come remotely close to meeting the goal, and was correctly released. The sour grapes just confirms he's not meant for an nfl roster
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Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
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I hope {he} is ok
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 2:49 am : link : reply
mentally and physically, no matter what.
We're going on almost two years of madness worldwide. This shit is outta hand for the normal citizen.
Imagine having the weight of the {team} on your shoulders and you're {30.}
Sorry, but I have a ton of sympathy for these young athletes.
What in the fuck is your idiotic point?
Are you comparing Simone Biles to Benjamin?
Are you drunk? Holy asshairs.
But please bore us more with regaling tales of how awesome and huge your son is and how great of a defensive lineman you were at Cuse 25 years ago with McNabb.
G-Money voice - IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!
But that's silly, I know. Still. Would be badass.
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Benjamin mentioning "cursing" screams soft to me. That's just my opinion.
To put his condition statement into context. 20 x 50 in 7 is not difficult depending on the standing rest (probably 30 seconds). I used to do 16 x 110 in 13 seconds with a 45 second standing rest at Cuse. That shit was hard and I was 19-22 years old 25 years ago, and not a pro athlete. So Benjamin's claim about conditioning doesn't resonate with me at all.
Now he slinking back to Florida to relax some more. I call soft as baby shit on his claims.
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I hope {he} is ok
Bricktop : 7/28/2021 2:49 am : link : reply
mentally and physically, no matter what.
We're going on almost two years of madness worldwide. This shit is outta hand for the normal citizen.
Imagine having the weight of the {team} on your shoulders and you're {30.}
Sorry, but I have a ton of sympathy for these young athletes.
What in the fuck is your idiotic point?
Are you comparing Simone Biles to Benjamin?
Are you drunk? Holy asshairs.
Well, yes. I'm comparing a football player that by most reasonable metrics is still a young man that has had documented body issues with a woman six years his younger, whom also has been at or near the pinnacle of their trade. Both athletes clearly have mental issues and are appealing for help. It appears you're fine to bash one but not another.
But please bore us more with regaling tales of how awesome and huge your son is and how great of a defensive lineman you were at Cuse 25 years ago with McNabb.
Was Benjamin sexually assaulted multiple times over several years by a USA Gymnastics-sanctioned predator? Was Benjamin saddled with the pressure of tens of millions of dollars in sponsorship money on the line? Was Benjamin on the biggest stage in the athletic universe right now? Was Benjamin in an extremely dangerous head space where the slightest of mistakes could mean paralysis or even death? Did Benjamin make a calculated decision to pursue other opportunities? Or did he slam his helmet to the turf and stomp off the field like a toddler?
You're a fucking dolt. Bringing my son into your pathetic post? Nice.
BurberryManning? Oh yeah, I remember him. He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
G-Money voice - IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!
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G-Money voice - IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!
Figured you'd get it!
Also, bragging about having one decent year 5 years ago is laughable.
Absolutely, the silver lining to all of this is that this is a serious coach and a serious message was sent today
At Benjamins point in his career, he should have done EVERYTHING possible to lose that 17lbs. This is his last chance. And he not only didnt try, he GAINED. Come on man.
Fair or unfair to Benjamin, Judge didn’t want this guy on his team. If he was asked to get down to 251 and decided to gain weight, and he’s been out of football for a while, what did he expect to happen? If he felt like the coach didn’t like him (probably true, probably forced on him by Gettleman) wouldn’t it be in his best interests to get down to 251 and show that coach he can do that?
Sounds to me like there’s a reason he’s been out of the game for a bit, and also-it sounds to me like we have a coach that’s a tremendous force or personality for better or worse. In my opinion, it’s much better to have that type of guy leading your team than a guy who accepts mediocrity because a higher up forces it upon him. Bravo Judge.
As far as Benjamin goes. He accuses Joe judge of being a know it all and yet he feels he knows what his playing weight should be. If the coach tells you to do something, do it, especially when you are fighting to just make the team.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
I do not really think(and neither should you) that DG tried to place one of his former picks on the roster against Judge's wishes. If anything, this off season showed us that DG and Judge work very, very well together and DG went out and got players that Judge wanted. No doubt DG knows what Benjamin is capable of and perhaps they thought KB could be a viable backup for Engram as a 3rd down threat(and maybe a cheap replacement). While tall at 6'5", I doubt that 268 was in the right places to be successfully carried with his frame(despite what he says). He may have been told after making the 90 man roster that it was conditional on him making weight.
FWIW, players are cut all the time for conditioning reasons - especially fringe players. If you want your team to be good, your coach needs to be ruthless.
As far as Benjamin goes. He accuses Joe judge of being a know it all and yet he feels he knows what his playing weight should be. If the coach tells you to do something, do it, especially when you are fighting to just make the team.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
I mean from what Benjamin is saying (take that with a grain of salt obviously) there aren’t many dots to connect. Could be a scorned player making something up but it also could be correct.
Exactly how should he have played it? Fringe roster guy with a history if effort/motivation questions who was out of football for 2 years gains weight when hes instructed to lose it. Then gets in an argument with the HC and GM when hes addressed about it.
Exactly what should Judge have done? Given him a hug? There are 8 or 9 TEs in the roster, you think they have time for that bullshit?
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I support Kelvin. Judge played this wrong.
Exactly how should he have played it? Fringe roster guy with a history if effort/motivation questions who was out of football for 2 years gains weight when hes instructed to lose it. Then gets in an argument with the HC and GM when hes addressed about it.
Exactly what should Judge have done? Given him a hug? There are 8 or 9 TEs in the roster, you think they have time for that bullshit?
Don’t bother. Rule of Z
Plenty of players have praised Judge's approach. Seems like he is demanding but he holds himself to the same standard.
Coaches can be a lot of things in how they execute. Players will accept most things even if the don't like. The bottom line for any coach is winning. If you don't then problems usually arise with players. Pretty consistent with most leadership roles.
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people want to connect dots and create stories that don't exist. I seriously doubt that any player has been forced onto Joe judge by gettleman or anyone else. Did gettleman recommend Kelvin Benjamin to judge or ask him to at least try him out? Possibly, but definitely not force him to take him.
As far as Benjamin goes. He accuses Joe judge of being a know it all and yet he feels he knows what his playing weight should be. If the coach tells you to do something, do it, especially when you are fighting to just make the team.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
I mean from what Benjamin is saying (take that with a grain of salt obviously) there aren’t many dots to connect. Could be a scorned player making something up but it also could be correct.
Benjamin also said that Joe judge never spoke to him prior to signing and yet there is a video proving otherwise. Benjamin also has no clue as to how judge felt. It's all speculation on his part. It would be one thing if Benjamin said that Joe judge told him he never wanted him here or something to that effect. I'm just saying that I don't see gettleman forcing a player on a coach and I don't see judge accepting players that he doesn't see fitting the team because they were forced on him.
This is a coach that wanted to meet with Golladay before he was signed.
This is also a coach where a lot of players drafted have SEC ties, but he is having players forced on him.
And going out door, slams coach...see ya.
Way too much was made of it....its over. Next man up
Zero accountability for ones own efforts.
And going out door, slams coach...see ya.
Way too much was made of it....its over. Next man up
Bingo.
As for Judge, I’ve shared before that my buddy who sometimes works the sidelines for Patriots home games said several times Judge cusses like a sailor, and the players loved him.
Not a good look for Benjamin on the way out, but glad Giants have a staff that makes quick decisions on something like this
Feels a bit like the scene in Jerry Maguire where Jerry gets fired. Everyone stops for a minute while he rants on the way out the door, then goes right back to work as if nothing happened
Zero accountability for ones own efforts.
Exactly. He gets a chance. He doesn't make the most of that chance. Then he rips the coach after not getting more of a chance, while lying about things along the way (saying Judge had never spoken to him)
He's been out of the NFL for how long? Chances are slim he was going to make this team in the first place. Good spot to make an example out of a non-compliant whiner who isn't putting the team first. Adios.
And then Gettleman went back upstairs...
It was his reaction to Judge telling him he would be fined for coming in overweight that got him cut.
It was his reaction to Judge telling him he would be fined for coming in overweight that got him cut.
Even worse look for Benjamin. Could have handled it like a man and stepped up but instead chose the child's route. Good riddance.
*shows up at 268 and expects to not get fined*
What's the problem here? It's not Joe Judge. It's the guy who's had trouble making weight at every cup of coffee in the league.
If this is what his attitude is like I'm glad he wasn't around the team for more than 1/10th of a practice.
2) Not saying Judge has a winning track record, but sticking to your guns isn't a bad trait for a coach.
3) If DG brought Kelvin in here, and Judge didn't want the player from the get go, I think he would have spoken up.
4) Benjamin is a quitter. He quit just because of this? His heart and mind were never into it.
Benjamin has every right to speak his opinion, but methinks this is much ado about nothing and some news in the absence of more meaningful news. I had forgotten Benjamin was on the roster even until this.
The two seem to work well together.
Hopefully JJ is able to develop the past 2+ offseason's haul of what, on paper, looks like an A+ group of players.
Go Giants!
Fair or unfair to Benjamin, Judge didn’t want this guy on his team. If he was asked to get down to 251 and decided to gain weight, and he’s been out of football for a while, what did he expect to happen? If he felt like the coach didn’t like him (probably true, probably forced on him by Gettleman) wouldn’t it be in his best interests to get down to 251 and show that coach he can do that?
Sounds to me like there’s a reason he’s been out of the game for a bit, and also-it sounds to me like we have a coach that’s a tremendous force or personality for better or worse. In my opinion, it’s much better to have that type of guy leading your team than a guy who accepts mediocrity because a higher up forces it upon him. Bravo Judge.
THis x100.
I feel like this is yet another example of who the king of the NYG is....and it ain't DG.
2) Not saying Judge has a winning track record, but sticking to your guns isn't a bad trait for a coach.
3) If DG brought Kelvin in here, and Judge didn't want the player from the get go, I think he would have spoken up.
4) Benjamin is a quitter. He quit just because of this? His heart and mind were never into it.
Just a leap, but maybe Judge did speak up before Benjamin was signed by DG and was not in favor of it. But Judge let it go because DG was doing a favor for his former player and he could always deal with it camp anyway if Benajmin turned out to be a joke. Just like he did.
Again, just a leap...
Obviously this outburst wasn't appropriate.