The current rumors are still the same. Knicks are trying to trade up. They are willing to part with both firsts. Their supposed targets are Davion Mitchell or Chris Duarte. I feel like a lot of rumors are started with agents using the Knicks as pawns because they have both draft picks and cap space so take a lot of these rumors with a grain of salt. Last year nobody saw the moves coming with respect to trades or us picking Quickley. So, sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride.
I expect a very active draft tonight especially with free agency a couple of days later, teams are going to try and set up their cap
not exciting. good defender, but seems to get undue credit for being a good shooter when in fact the numbers aren't very good.
Agreed.
If that's the punishment for not trading up for a wild swing at one guy, sign me up.
Duarte would be great at 19 or 21, but I wouldn't trade up for him. His ceiling is capped. If I'm trading up, I'm targeting Davion Mitchell.
If they do it, it sounds like it's going to take more than that. This is what Chad Ford wrote:
Would the Knicks offer Mitchell Robinson to Charlotte for No. 11 or to San Antonio for No. 12? Or Obi Toppin to the Pacers? A young player plus the No. 19 and No. 21 picks would be the likely cost to get up that high in the draft.
Gonna be a hard no from me unless it's one of those guys straight up.
Exactly. I’d even consider trying to trade one of the picks for a first next season if I don’t like the wings/points available by pick 19. I think they need a big and some good ones will be available.
Same. Sure, if somebody starts tumbling that you're shocked is there maybe you package something but I fail to see how a Duarte is worth 2 mildly "high" picks in 19 and 21.
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Hearing Knicks interested in deal for Orlando wing Terrance Ross - likely would be sending a draft pick to rebuilding Orlando. Reasonable contract, solid scorer. Not only team in talks about Ross. I think
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The #76ers hope to trade Ben Simmons tonight. The asking price remains the same. The relationship seems to be over. It’s not a matter of if anymore, but when.
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Just don't see how we add 3 rookies to this team
it deoends whats in the trade, if Knox is in the deal only eats up 7 million of their cap space plus cap hold for draft pick traded
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Hearing Knicks interested in deal for Orlando wing Terrance Ross - likely would be sending a draft pick to rebuilding Orlando. Reasonable contract, solid scorer. Not only team in talks about Ross. I think
@IanBegley
mentioned possibility first
This would be a smart move.
I could see Knox and 21 for Ross and 33, then package 32 and 33 to move back into the first
I wonder if the Knicks are waiting to see how tonight goes before committing to other channels, via vet trades. Should be interesting. Wish I was a fly on the wall in the MSG offices right about now. No other of my teams fascinates me more right now in regards to personnel decisions and off-season decisions than the Knicks. So many moving parts.
Well that's a lot steeper than I would have hoped, but I love Turner's game. Elite shot blocker and not a total black hole offensively. Opens up room for Randle to operate.
Ok...really?
The leaps of negativity some take...
Some of the best moves in NBA history involved a so called overpaying trade up. Let it play out first.
I still think we need quality more than quantity and even if we were short a few ditch diggers, those guys are easy to find. You want star power or difference makers I think you're more likely to get that guy with one high pick vs 2-3 lower picks, especially when you're convinced that one player can be had with that one higher pick. Knicks should trust their convictions, they aren't a bad scouting franchise by any means.
As far as other moves go, doesn't sound like he's expecting them to do anything big this offseason. Says they're hesitant to commit a lot of money beyond next season to maintain flexibility for FA next year. More likely is bigger one year or two year deals (the latter doesn't make much sense with everything else he was saying).
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As far as other moves go, doesn't sound like he's expecting them to do anything big this offseason. Says they're hesitant to commit a lot of money beyond next season to maintain flexibility for FA next year. More likely is bigger one year or two year deals (the latter doesn't make much sense with everything else he was saying). Link - ( New Window )
He may mean a 1 + 1 for a 2 year deal.
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Ok...really?
The leaps of negativity some take...
Some of the best moves in NBA history involved a so called overpaying trade up. Let it play out first.
I still think we need quality more than quantity and even if we were short a few ditch diggers, those guys are easy to find. You want star power or difference makers I think you're more likely to get that guy with one high pick vs 2-3 lower picks, especially when you're convinced that one player can be had with that one higher pick. Knicks should trust their convictions, they aren't a bad scouting franchise by any means.
Overpaying in almost any context is a bad idea. It's pretty clear that the Knicks have offered both 19 and 21 to move up, but that has not been enough. They will have to add a decent player (Obi?) to do so. That in my view is an overpay and therefore a mistake.
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Ok...really?
The leaps of negativity some take...
Some of the best moves in NBA history involved a so called overpaying trade up. Let it play out first.
I still think we need quality more than quantity and even if we were short a few ditch diggers, those guys are easy to find. You want star power or difference makers I think you're more likely to get that guy with one high pick vs 2-3 lower picks, especially when you're convinced that one player can be had with that one higher pick. Knicks should trust their convictions, they aren't a bad scouting franchise by any means.
Overpaying in almost any context is a bad idea. It's pretty clear that the Knicks have offered both 19 and 21 to move up, but that has not been enough. They will have to add a decent player (Obi?) to do so. That in my view is an overpay and therefore a mistake.
Obi is a decent player now?
So true. In hindsight they could've traded 3 or 4 first round picks to move up from 8 to 7 in 2009 and it would've been highway robbery. At the time everyone and their mother would be ridiculing them for overpaying to move up 1 slot.
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#Pacers are looking to deal.
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At our current spot Would love Tre Mann though too. Or Sharife Cooper. Cooper just needs a jumper and he had star potential. 80% FT shooter so the shot is in there. He’s an all star playmaker though for sure— electric as hell in that regard. Max K made a good point earlier today that we’ve actually seen so many guys come into the league and of all things we’ve seen they can improve shooting moreso than almost anything else, which is surprising.
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I’ve been saying for the past week that if Kuminga were available at 8, I believe the Magic would take him.
However, I keep hearing that both Ziaire Williams and Moses Moody are very much in play at 8 -- even if Kuminga is on the board.
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The Magic aren’t afraid to be different, and I think Ziaire Williams is gaining traction there.
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With just a few hours to go, the Pacers were in talks with three teams about moving down in a deal that would net them picks later in the first round plus players.
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The Knicks and the Thunder are believed to be in the mix for the Pacers pick, and I’m told the teams were “making progress” but didn’t expect anything to be done before the draft.
wouldnt surprise me
Broussard and Bucher are with fs1
sheridan i think started his own site
It makes sense. They’re not going to re-sign him anytime soon and might as well see if someone knocks you over for him. I don’t think it even means they’re totally against re-signing him at a later point.
At our current spot Would love Tre Mann though too. Or Sharife Cooper. Cooper just needs a jumper and he had star potential. 80% FT shooter so the shot is in there. He’s an all star playmaker though for sure— electric as hell in that regard. Max K made a good point earlier today that we’ve actually seen so many guys come into the league and of all things we’ve seen they can improve shooting moreso than almost anything else, which is surprising.
I like Cooper too but it's not just a matter of him improving his shooting mechanics. Given his size, it's always going to be difficult for him to find shots that aren't heavily contested.
But the upside is limited and at that age, I'd really hate to see them trade both picks to get into range for that type of piece.
Also have talkrd to Spurs about 12
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Warriors reject #Sixers’ steep asking price, walk away from Ben Simmons trade centered on Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman and four first-rounders
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Warriors reject #Sixers’ steep asking price, walk away from Ben Simmons trade centered on Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman and four first-rounders
haha, if that's the price, you definitely let Morey hold onto that dysfunction right up until camp starts. They'll have to move off that price by then.
Honestly i dont think that ask is that absurd. Sure the 4 firsts is a bit much, but if its 2 firsts? I think thats a fair deal. I mean wisemen wasnt overly impressive so who knows what he is and Wiggins is basically there to match salary.
Honestly i dont think that ask is that absurd. Sure the 4 firsts is a bit much, but if its 2 firsts? I think thats a fair deal. I mean wisemen wasnt overly impressive so who knows what he is and Wiggins is basically there to match salary.
It normally would be a fair price. But the Sixers have let that become so toxic that Simmons is worth pennies on the dollar now. They can't run it back and everyone knows it.
Did he implode or was he simply exposed? He’s a dreadful perimeter shooter and a dreadful free throw shooter. His unwillingness to shoot the 3 has been a constant knock on him. It shouldn’t be a surprise that he took that mentality a step further and all but refused to shoot free throws. He may have taken his issues to the next level during the playoffs, but this is who he’s always been. It just gets masked during the regular season when far fewer eyes are watching and evaluating his every move
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Knicks a little concerned wings Ziaire Williams/Trey Murphy may not fall to 19. They'd take either. With no trade up, may have to settle for another Kentucky big, Isaiah Jackson. No indication Auburn PG Shariffe Cooper is being considered at 19/21.
Sorry- the Hield trade is a Woj bomb.
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Brooklyn has traded guard Landry Shamet to Phoenix for Jevon Carter and the 29th pick in tonight's draft, sources tell ESPN.
wasnt the 22nd pick rumored to be in that as well?
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wasnt the 22nd pick rumored to be in that as well?
If it's part of the deal he hasn't mentioned it yet
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. Westbrook wants a move elsewhere and the Lakers are his preferred destination, sources said.
he has already opted in
No apparently kings deal is dead
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The Lakers and Wizards are discussing a trade that would send Kyle Kuzma, Montrezl Harrell, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope for Westbrook, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The Lakers' No. 22 pick in the Draft could be in play, too. twitter.com/ShamsCharania/…
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Lakers and Wizards are in serious talks on a Russell Westbrook trade to L.A., sources tell @TheAthletic
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. Westbrook has become the Lakers‘ primary focus. He would give them a dynamic playmaker alongside LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
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The Lakers are near a deal to acquire Washington's Russell Westbrook for Kyle Kuzma, Montrezl Harrell, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a 2021 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.
I agree. A year ago no one wanted him. It took the Rockets taking back Wall’s contract to get the deal done
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TRADE: The Cleveland Cavaliers are acquiring Minnesota Timberwolves G Ricky Rubio, a 2022 second-round pick and cash for F Taurean Prince, sources tell ESPN.
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TRADE: The Cleveland Cavaliers are acquiring Minnesota Timberwolves G Ricky Rubio, a 2022 second-round pick and cash for F Taurean Prince, sources tell ESPN.
Open up a sexton trade?
I honestly think Hield is untradable. He looked absolutely awful this year. Even considering he was on a bad team, he looked bad. He’s signed l think for another 3 years at $20M+ per year. He complained ad nauseam when he got his 4 yr /90M deal, repeatedly said he felt disrespected and then went on to relatively suck ass. Part of me wonders if the money made him relax? Either way I was thinking about it the other day and wasn’t sure if I’d take the Kings pick (I.e. move up 10 spots) In exchange for Buddy Hield. That contract could set us back. Not saying that’s on the table just saying that’s honestly how much I feel his contract/ability combo at this point is just toxic. Just my opinion.
I honestly think Hield is untradable. He looked absolutely awful this year. Even considering he was on a bad team, he looked bad. He’s signed l think for another 3 years at $20M+ per year. He complained ad nauseam when he got his 4 yr /90M deal, repeatedly said he felt disrespected and then went on to relatively suck ass. Part of me wonders if the money made him relax? Either way I was thinking about it the other day and wasn’t sure if I’d take the Kings pick (I.e. move up 10 spots) In exchange for Buddy Hield. That contract could set us back. Not saying that’s on the table just saying that’s honestly how much I feel his contract/ability combo at this point is just toxic. Just my opinion.
Lebron always gets the best out of guys like that. In that situation, his attitude/work ethic wouldn't scare me one bit.
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Knicks are silent - but lot of folks around the league saying they're hearing from them ("Why, hello Wes..."). MSG is airing a draft night special at 10 p.m. where they will focus on ... Sexton? Duarte? Various Kentucky players?
Lebron always gets the best out of guys like that. In that situation, his attitude/work ethic wouldn't scare me one bit.
That's true he does-- and I'm sure he wouldn't have an issue with motivation in a situation like LA.
That said, I really don't mind the fit with Russ in LA. I think the same things were said about Kyrie, Harden, and KD all possibly having issues with sharing the ball. I think guys at that level of greatness just end up figuring it out.
Not to mention it's doubtful AD and Lebron play a full 82 games next year, so you need a guy who's capable of being a #1 option when one or both of those guys are out (otherwise they could wind up back in a play-in spot).
I also may be biased in general because I personally think all the stuff about Westbrook being a ball hog, bad teammate, "not a winner", etc. is overblown. Getting the record for triple-doubles also includes 10+ assists, which has to include passing the ball and guys actually making shots, which usually means you're doing something right to make your teammates succeed. Also he's always a guy to constantly push the pace which is an aspect that helps AD's game a lot.
@StevePopper
Knicks are silent - but lot of folks around the league saying they're hearing from them ("Why, hello Wes..."). MSG is airing a draft night special at 10 p.m. where they will focus on ... Sexton? Duarte? Various Kentucky players?
Huh? They do an MSG Knicks Draft Special every year
Lebron always gets the best out of guys like that. In that situation, his attitude/work ethic wouldn't scare me one bit.
That's true he does-- and I'm sure he wouldn't have an issue with motivation in a situation like LA.
That said, I really don't mind the fit with Russ in LA. I think the same things were said about Kyrie, Harden, and KD all possibly having issues with sharing the ball. I think guys at that level of greatness just end up figuring it out.
Not to mention it's doubtful AD and Lebron play a full 82 games next year, so you need a guy who's capable of being a #1 option when one or both of those guys are out (otherwise they could wind up back in a play-in spot).
I also may be biased in general because I personally think all the stuff about Westbrook being a ball hog, bad teammate, "not a winner", etc. is overblown. Getting the record for triple-doubles also includes 10+ assists, which has to include passing the ball and guys actually making shots, which usually means you're doing something right to make your teammates succeed. Also he's always a guy to constantly push the pace which is an aspect that helps AD's game a lot.
I agree on the load management regular season stuff but I'm thinking more about the playoffs. There's a big difference with the Nets big 3 -- they can all shoot the hell out of the ball. Westbrook can't. That's the biggest issue since the Lakers biggest issue this past season was floor spacing. They just further weakened their big glaring weakness.
Haha. Yes, for the love of God, us East Coasters fucking matter.
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Haha. Yes, for the love of God, us East Coasters fucking matter.
you will be alright haha
Stupid from Lakers perspective IMO.
I dunno.
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he is on abc
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he is on abc
Yeah, I don't know why. Put Rose on ESPN. Why do I have to listen to Kendrick Perkins butcher this shit?
Trade?
Trade?
Yep have to think there is a trade brewing
Trade?
Yeah that strikes me as a pick for someone else
Trade?
Makes no sense
Turkish big is also intriguing
But do they want to trade up for Bouknight?
Fox can play two and Halliburton can play 3.
It’s tough because his college situation was a complete disaster. He’s got a lot of tools. We’ll see if it works out.
100%.
Same. We're in good position
at this point dont even bother trading up..
Whoever is there you take the best available
I don't know about trading up.
It's definitely a reach, but he has a TON of potential. He's the youngest kid in the Draft.
Hope not. I'd rather have Moody, Kispert and Trey Murphy III over Duarte
Me too. Lot of interesting players falling.
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Hope not. I'd rather have Moody, Kispert and Trey Murphy III over Duarte
I really like what I have seen from Murphy. Guys that shoot like him aren't available at 19.
What? Where?
Don’t be coy, now.
@NYPost_Berman
Knicks didn’t offer Indiana quite enough to move up to 13. Pacers taking Oregon swingman Chris Duarte. Been writing about Duarte for more than a month. Primo pick for San Antonio could help a wing they like fall to 19.
almost got who?
Huh? I was obviously joking. Your post was a little cryptic - I still don’t know what or who you were referencing.
Because they need more draft picks...
She looks like she belongs in Tokyo with the women's volleyball team
For what? lol
After tonight, she probably will need a week to get her legs back..hope she’s ready…
It's a strategy. I mean OKC wants every pick in every Draft. They're bound to find good ones.
She’s on the Zags women’s team.
Who is your pick at 19 now?
Who is your pick at 19 now?
Kai Jones
At a certain point it gets kinda ridiculous though. Like maybe when you have 18 over the next 6 drafts you maybe don’t need 20. I understand that philosophy but at some point you need to actually pick players. I would think this would be a good draft to use picks. And they’re bound to at some point be in positions where they don’t like any players at their pick and also can’t trade the pick. You wanna trade your picks in weak drafts but i think this would’ve been a perfect point for them to use one of those picks. I guess they only wanted 2 first round players this year and they figure the guy they want will still be there at #18.
Who is your pick at 19 now?
Tre Mann could be shooter from outside
Good move gives is more capital for a big trade
Wow. Mann.. I called him going earlier than expected.
Fuck him now.
Who I would've taken for the Knicks, but alright. Alright. I'm not happy and I'm not mad.
Fuck him now.
Came to post this too. Thanks!
WTF
LOL! The Knicks vs. the Thunder in the Draft Cold War.
For Cade Cunningham?
2022- 1-18
2023- 1-16
2024- 1-14
2025- 1-14
Will turn into 2 future 2's if not conveyed
protections on the 1st Knicks got 1-18, 1-18, 1-14,1-14
Woj said it went to Detroit
WTF
source or guess?
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2023- 1-16
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Will turn into 2 future 2's if not conveyed
Wait, what? It's not unprotected? 1-18!?!?! But we picked 19 in a deeper draft...Da fuck, Leon?
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Wait, what? It's not unprotected? 1-18!?!?! But we picked 19 in a deeper draft...Da fuck, Leon?
they will use that in a trade guaranteed
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2023- 1-16
2024- 1-14
2025- 1-14
Will turn into 2 future 2's if not conveyed
And Detroit's 2nd in 2024
Mist have a PG in FA or a trade
If they trade the pick for a future pick, they have an asset they can trade for a vet.
That's how I feel.
They must be just trying to preserve assets? Hard to look at that Charlotte trade and think it's good.
We don't get the pick if it's in that range.
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We don't get the pick if it's in that range.
It means they don’t. The protections mean you don’t get it if it falls in that range and you wait until it does
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And 21 for 25 and a future 2… uh ok
That's how I feel.
They must be just trying to preserve assets? Hard to look at that Charlotte trade and think it's good.
Preserving cap space for a trade next month.
Agreed. Why?
Especially when OKC got 2 firsts from Houston.
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We don't get the pick if it's in that range.
how does that trade make any sense?
If CHA makes the playoffs in the next 3 years, we get their first basically.
And shouldn’t have been protected, bad job.
A future 2nd to move down four spots, is not great return.
Crappy how the board fell.. but they must like other guys in a similar tier.
Not thrilled.
we tried to tell you Knicks were never bringing in 4 rookies
That gives us maneuverability.
Rose did the same thing last year. He'll trade draft picks for pennies on the dollar if there's no one he likes. Look at the Daniel Oturu trade and the Bolmaro trade.
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Is that worth giving up the chance to take anyone we want at this point?
Rose did the same thing last year. He'll trade draft picks for pennies on the dollar if there's no one he likes. Look at the Daniel Oturu trade and the Bolmaro trade.
Considering how our picks panned out, I don't mind that.
BUTLER! Let's go!
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Is that worth giving up the chance to take anyone we want at this point?
Rose did the same thing last year. He'll trade draft picks for pennies on the dollar if there's no one he likes. Look at the Daniel Oturu trade and the Bolmaro trade.
Considering how our picks panned out, I don't mind that.
Trading down 2 spots to take IQ wasn't the issue. That was a fine trade. It was the other two trades that were head-scratching.
Give me Butler at 25 and McBride or Ayayi at 32.
They were coy with the IQ pick, but we knew they were in love with Obi as well.
The way he said “uhh… yeah… it was a surprise… but uh ya know… I’m extremely blessed to be here.”
They kicked them down the road for a trade.
The Knicks were all over Grimes and they got him at 25 instead of 21
The Knicks were all over Grimes and they got him at 25 instead of 21
I'm not so sure they couldn't have gotten him at the top of the second round. Maybe that was the plan until their targets kept getting taken.
But the media called this and called their interest in Duarte and Co.
I want Day'Ron Sharpe! Give me a beast on the boards and an excellent passer from the post.
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I'm not so sure they couldn't have gotten him at the top of the second round. Maybe that was the plan until their targets kept getting taken.
But the media called this and called their interest in Duarte and Co.
They are using that 32nd pick on Boston if he is there
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The Knicks were all over Grimes and they got him at 25 instead of 21
I'm not so sure they couldn't have gotten him at the top of the second round. Maybe that was the plan until their targets kept getting taken.
But the media called this and called their interest in Duarte and Co.
They are using that 32nd pick on Boston if he is there
Yeah, I heard that as well. We'll see.
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The Knicks were all over Grimes and they got him at 25 instead of 21
I'm not so sure they couldn't have gotten him at the top of the second round. Maybe that was the plan until their targets kept getting taken.
But the media called this and called their interest in Duarte and Co.
They are using that 32nd pick on Boston if he is there
Yeah, I heard that as well. We'll see.
Or Deuce McBride
Murphy. They’ve been on him December with that first pick. Once he was gone they decided to trade.
Their plan since the end of the season has been to make a package for SGA or Dame, which is why once Murphy was gone they decided trading for a future pick was better.
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Do you have sources that are telling you a trade is happening down the road or are you just making assumptions?
Their plan since the end of the season has been to make a package for SGA or Dame, which is why once Murphy was gone they decided trading for a future pick was better.
Damn.
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Something kind of tells me that for some reason, maybe because that’s who I was hoping for and they both went just before and then suddenly the pick was traded. But who knows.
Murphy. They’ve been on him December with that first pick. Once he was gone they decided to trade.
Murphy went #17. If they really wanted him, couldn't they have traded up given where he was selected?
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Something kind of tells me that for some reason, maybe because that’s who I was hoping for and they both went just before and then suddenly the pick was traded. But who knows.
Murphy. They’ve been on him December with that first pick. Once he was gone they decided to trade.
Murphy went #17. If they really wanted him, couldn't they have traded up given where he was selected?
They tried for the OKC pick and even Indys pick at 13
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Something kind of tells me that for some reason, maybe because that’s who I was hoping for and they both went just before and then suddenly the pick was traded. But who knows.
Murphy. They’ve been on him December with that first pick. Once he was gone they decided to trade.
Murphy went #17. If they really wanted him, couldn't they have traded up given where he was selected?
They tried for the OKC pick and even Indys pick at 13
I know, but it just seems strange that 19 and 21 couldn't even move them up a few spots.
19 traded for a Non Lotto Hornets first.
21 traded down to 25 and future 2nd
25 was Quentin Grimes.
It'll probably be Boston.
good fricken call, Knicks trading 32 for 34 and 36
this is the best trade of the night lol
Best and most sensible trade of the night
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this is the best trade of the night lol
It is, but the number of trades is just crazy.
they are saving money for something
The draft and stash is a point guard
Yup. They're basically punting the entire draft for FA.
I think many pundits thought Deuce was a better and higher rated prospect than Grimes
Same here, and I wanted Grimes at #32. Those two, plus a Euro stash, extra cap space and a couple of assets down the road makes for a productive night.
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Same here, and I wanted Grimes at #32. Those two, plus a Euro stash, extra cap space and a couple of assets down the road makes for a productive night.
Agreed. Was all unexpected and a real whirlwind, but the Knicks did well. Two basically guaranteed role players and a draft and stash with upside.
Ultimately I don’t think it matters all that much. The most likely scenario is that they trade that pick in a bigger deal in the next two years anyways.
Haha, we discussed this like a week ago, right? Undersized, poor defender, short arm length and a bad shooter. For all his positives, those guys usually go in the second round.
“I see people ahead of him that I know he’s better than,’’ West Virginia assistant coach Erik Martin told The Post. “Some of those guys he’s outplayed when we played them. He’s 6-2, a former football player and a winner. He has toughness. He came in the door with that. Hopefully where he gets drafted is somewhere where he’d play.’’
Wow, Sharife Cooper disappeared. Taken at 48.
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Not a bad night.
Yep, that's what I was hoping for - PG, wing and a big. Summer League should be fun.
I'm pumped with this pick. Thibs kind of player. Let's go D!
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Undrafted Clemson F Aamir Simms has agreed to a a deal with the Knicks, source tells ESPN.
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They gone feel me… what’s new! Slept on ain’t nothing but a routine now! Thank you to everyone who been sticking with me this far! God has something greater in store for me! I only need a foot in the door! #undraftedunderdog #Godisforever
Makes it a lot easier for me to root for LA over BK.
Also Hahn mentioned on his facebook page that the Lithuanian guard has already worked a buyout with his team..
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The Utah Jazz have agreed to trade C Derrick Favors and a future first-round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for a future second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Jazz create some financial flexibility and Thunder grab another first-rounder.
Also Hahn mentioned on his facebook page that the Lithuanian guard has already worked a buyout with his team..
So much for a Eurostash
It felt to me that once their fave guys in the teens were gone, they wanted out of the range their picks were in. Clearly they were willing to pick some guys but prioritized having future assets - the kind that get used in trades for Vets. They came in with 4 picks, picked four players and still have a potential first round pick and a second round pick in future drafts.
You can say that the guys they would have gotten at 19 and 21 and 32 would be better than who they got at 25 and 34/36. But if the Knicks are hunting vets, not trying to find franchise players in the late teens, early twenties.
They got future assets, opened a little cap space this year and next and picked 4 interesting players whose fit with "Knicks Basketball" all really makes sense. You can see how all of them really fit how the Knicks want to play. It was a good night, IMO.
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Also Hahn mentioned on his facebook page that the Lithuanian guard has already worked a buyout with his team..
So much for a Eurostash
He said he could still go back if Knicks ask him to stay