The current rumors are still the same. Knicks are trying to trade up. They are willing to part with both firsts. Their supposed targets are Davion Mitchell or Chris Duarte. I feel like a lot of rumors are started with agents using the Knicks as pawns because they have both draft picks and cap space so take a lot of these rumors with a grain of salt. Last year nobody saw the moves coming with respect to trades or us picking Quickley. So, sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride.
I expect a very active draft tonight especially with free agency a couple of days later, teams are going to try and set up their cap
not exciting. good defender, but seems to get undue credit for being a good shooter when in fact the numbers aren't very good.
Agreed.
If that's the punishment for not trading up for a wild swing at one guy, sign me up.
Duarte would be great at 19 or 21, but I wouldn't trade up for him. His ceiling is capped. If I'm trading up, I'm targeting Davion Mitchell.
If they do it, it sounds like it's going to take more than that. This is what Chad Ford wrote:
Would the Knicks offer Mitchell Robinson to Charlotte for No. 11 or to San Antonio for No. 12? Or Obi Toppin to the Pacers? A young player plus the No. 19 and No. 21 picks would be the likely cost to get up that high in the draft.
Gonna be a hard no from me unless it's one of those guys straight up.
Exactly. I’d even consider trying to trade one of the picks for a first next season if I don’t like the wings/points available by pick 19. I think they need a big and some good ones will be available.
Same. Sure, if somebody starts tumbling that you're shocked is there maybe you package something but I fail to see how a Duarte is worth 2 mildly "high" picks in 19 and 21.
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The Utah Jazz are making Joe Ingles and Bojan Bogdanovic available in trade talks, according to @JakeLFischer
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The Indiana Pacers are 'juggling trade talks' involving Myles Turner, T.J. Warren, and the No. 13 pick in separate deals, per
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Hearing Knicks interested in deal for Orlando wing Terrance Ross - likely would be sending a draft pick to rebuilding Orlando. Reasonable contract, solid scorer. Not only team in talks about Ross. I think
@IanBegley
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The #76ers hope to trade Ben Simmons tonight. The asking price remains the same. The relationship seems to be over. It’s not a matter of if anymore, but when.
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Just don't see how we add 3 rookies to this team
it deoends whats in the trade, if Knox is in the deal only eats up 7 million of their cap space plus cap hold for draft pick traded
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Hearing Knicks interested in deal for Orlando wing Terrance Ross - likely would be sending a draft pick to rebuilding Orlando. Reasonable contract, solid scorer. Not only team in talks about Ross. I think
@IanBegley
mentioned possibility first
This would be a smart move.
I could see Knox and 21 for Ross and 33, then package 32 and 33 to move back into the first
I wonder if the Knicks are waiting to see how tonight goes before committing to other channels, via vet trades. Should be interesting. Wish I was a fly on the wall in the MSG offices right about now. No other of my teams fascinates me more right now in regards to personnel decisions and off-season decisions than the Knicks. So many moving parts.
Well that's a lot steeper than I would have hoped, but I love Turner's game. Elite shot blocker and not a total black hole offensively. Opens up room for Randle to operate.
Ok...really?
The leaps of negativity some take...
Some of the best moves in NBA history involved a so called overpaying trade up. Let it play out first.
I still think we need quality more than quantity and even if we were short a few ditch diggers, those guys are easy to find. You want star power or difference makers I think you're more likely to get that guy with one high pick vs 2-3 lower picks, especially when you're convinced that one player can be had with that one higher pick. Knicks should trust their convictions, they aren't a bad scouting franchise by any means.
As far as other moves go, doesn't sound like he's expecting them to do anything big this offseason. Says they're hesitant to commit a lot of money beyond next season to maintain flexibility for FA next year. More likely is bigger one year or two year deals (the latter doesn't make much sense with everything else he was saying).
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As far as other moves go, doesn't sound like he's expecting them to do anything big this offseason. Says they're hesitant to commit a lot of money beyond next season to maintain flexibility for FA next year. More likely is bigger one year or two year deals (the latter doesn't make much sense with everything else he was saying). Link - ( New Window )
He may mean a 1 + 1 for a 2 year deal.
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Knicks appear desperate to trade up, which unfortunately increases the likelihood that they will overpay to do so.
Ok...really?
The leaps of negativity some take...
Some of the best moves in NBA history involved a so called overpaying trade up. Let it play out first.
I still think we need quality more than quantity and even if we were short a few ditch diggers, those guys are easy to find. You want star power or difference makers I think you're more likely to get that guy with one high pick vs 2-3 lower picks, especially when you're convinced that one player can be had with that one higher pick. Knicks should trust their convictions, they aren't a bad scouting franchise by any means.
Overpaying in almost any context is a bad idea. It's pretty clear that the Knicks have offered both 19 and 21 to move up, but that has not been enough. They will have to add a decent player (Obi?) to do so. That in my view is an overpay and therefore a mistake.
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Knicks appear desperate to trade up, which unfortunately increases the likelihood that they will overpay to do so.
Ok...really?
The leaps of negativity some take...
Some of the best moves in NBA history involved a so called overpaying trade up. Let it play out first.
I still think we need quality more than quantity and even if we were short a few ditch diggers, those guys are easy to find. You want star power or difference makers I think you're more likely to get that guy with one high pick vs 2-3 lower picks, especially when you're convinced that one player can be had with that one higher pick. Knicks should trust their convictions, they aren't a bad scouting franchise by any means.
Overpaying in almost any context is a bad idea. It's pretty clear that the Knicks have offered both 19 and 21 to move up, but that has not been enough. They will have to add a decent player (Obi?) to do so. That in my view is an overpay and therefore a mistake.
Obi is a decent player now?
So true. In hindsight they could've traded 3 or 4 first round picks to move up from 8 to 7 in 2009 and it would've been highway robbery. At the time everyone and their mother would be ridiculing them for overpaying to move up 1 slot.
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#Pacers are looking to deal.
"The Pacers were making progress on several fronts toward a deal that would have them trade down or out of the draft, but any deal is more likely to occur during the draft. Knicks, Thunder and a mystery team are in the mix."
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At our current spot Would love Tre Mann though too. Or Sharife Cooper. Cooper just needs a jumper and he had star potential. 80% FT shooter so the shot is in there. He’s an all star playmaker though for sure— electric as hell in that regard. Max K made a good point earlier today that we’ve actually seen so many guys come into the league and of all things we’ve seen they can improve shooting moreso than almost anything else, which is surprising.
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I’ve been saying for the past week that if Kuminga were available at 8, I believe the Magic would take him.
However, I keep hearing that both Ziaire Williams and Moses Moody are very much in play at 8 -- even if Kuminga is on the board.
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The Magic aren’t afraid to be different, and I think Ziaire Williams is gaining traction there.
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With just a few hours to go, the Pacers were in talks with three teams about moving down in a deal that would net them picks later in the first round plus players.
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The Knicks and the Thunder are believed to be in the mix for the Pacers pick, and I’m told the teams were “making progress” but didn’t expect anything to be done before the draft.