NFT: NBA Draft - Knicks Edition

told off the record, the Knicks have "shopped" Mitch

In comment 15316638 DanMetroMan said:

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told off the record, the Knicks have "shopped" Mitch

wouldnt surprise me

and the contract issue is looming.

I wouldn’t mind staying at 19 and 21 and taking some tall rangy shooters. There are some out there and we have the pieces in place to plug and play with those type selections. We can get a tall shot blocker in the second to spell Mitchell when he’s banged up.

all about Chad Ford. He was one of espn's original draft "gurus" and was insufferable way back when. It's funny how some of these "experts/insiders" end up sorta falling into the background. Is Chris Broussard still around? David Thorpe? Chris Sheridan? Bucher?

In comment 15316652 Enzo said:

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all about Chad Ford. He was one of espn's original draft "gurus" and was insufferable way back when. It's funny how some of these "experts/insiders" end up sorta falling into the background. Is Chris Broussard still around? David Thorpe? Chris Sheridan? Bucher?

Broussard and Bucher are with fs1

sheridan i think started his own site

In comment 15316638 DanMetroMan said:

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told off the record, the Knicks have "shopped" Mitch

It makes sense. They’re not going to re-sign him anytime soon and might as well see if someone knocks you over for him. I don’t think it even means they’re totally against re-signing him at a later point.

In comment 15316635 Leg of Theismann said:

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Honestly Duarte could fall to #32 for christ sakes. Davion Mitchell I’d absolutely love. At our current spot Would love Tre Mann though too. Or Sharife Cooper. Cooper just needs a jumper and he had star potential. 80% FT shooter so the shot is in there. He’s an all star playmaker though for sure— electric as hell in that regard. Max K made a good point earlier today that we’ve actually seen so many guys come into the league and of all things we’ve seen they can improve shooting moreso than almost anything else, which is surprising.

I like Cooper too but it's not just a matter of him improving his shooting mechanics. Given his size, it's always going to be difficult for him to find shots that aren't heavily contested.

definitely seems like a worthwhile role player, and seems like an absolute pain in the ass to play against.

But the upside is limited and at that age, I'd really hate to see them trade both picks to get into range for that type of piece.

Let's go Knicks!

i mean dont give him away, but if you can get a descent return im all for it. He has not improved that much and will def be overpaid. Thing is Mitch and 21 seems like too much for 13 to and Mitch plus both our seconds for 13 seems like too little, lol.

Knicks have talked to magic about ross and also about the 8th pick but Magic so far unwilling to trade it..

Also have talkrd to Spurs about 12

they almost have to trade down. He's 99 percent certain to be there at #19, and you could get an extra first rounder from the Knicks - or make the exact same deal with OKC involving #16/#18.

Keith Pompey
@PompeyOnSixers
Warriors reject #Sixers’ steep asking price, walk away from Ben Simmons trade centered on Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman and four first-rounders

In comment 15316707 DanMetroMan said:

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Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers Warriors reject #Sixers’ steep asking price, walk away from Ben Simmons trade centered on Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman and four first-rounders

haha, if that's the price, you definitely let Morey hold onto that dysfunction right up until camp starts. They'll have to move off that price by then.

for simmons. Him and Green would be a pain on D and his lack of shooting hurts a bit less with Curry/Klay.

Honestly i dont think that ask is that absurd. Sure the 4 firsts is a bit much, but if its 2 firsts? I think thats a fair deal. I mean wisemen wasnt overly impressive so who knows what he is and Wiggins is basically there to match salary.

In comment 15316719 Italianju said:

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for simmons. Him and Green would be a pain on D and his lack of shooting hurts a bit less with Curry/Klay. Honestly i dont think that ask is that absurd. Sure the 4 firsts is a bit much, but if its 2 firsts? I think thats a fair deal. I mean wisemen wasnt overly impressive so who knows what he is and Wiggins is basically there to match salary.

It normally would be a fair price. But the Sixers have let that become so toxic that Simmons is worth pennies on the dollar now. They can't run it back and everyone knows it.

but i think that already is pennies on the dollar. Like if Simmons doesnt implode the end of last year you arent getting close to him for that offer. Again i think 4 firsts is to much. Im offereing Wiggins, Wiseman, and 2 firsts. Id consider a 3rd first in like 2025 or whenever they can include the first, but id want descent protection.

In comment 15316727 Italianju said:

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but i think that already is pennies on the dollar. Like if Simmons doesnt implode the end of last year you arent getting close to him for that offer. Again i think 4 firsts is to much. Im offereing Wiggins, Wiseman, and 2 firsts. Id consider a 3rd first in like 2025 or whenever they can include the first, but id want descent protection.

Did he implode or was he simply exposed? He’s a dreadful perimeter shooter and a dreadful free throw shooter. His unwillingness to shoot the 3 has been a constant knock on him. It shouldn’t be a surprise that he took that mentality a step further and all but refused to shoot free throws. He may have taken his issues to the next level during the playoffs, but this is who he’s always been. It just gets masked during the regular season when far fewer eyes are watching and evaluating his every move

and Harrell headed to Sacramento for Hield

Marc Berman
@NYPost_Berman
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Knicks a little concerned wings Ziaire Williams/Trey Murphy may not fall to 19. They'd take either. With no trade up, may have to settle for another Kentucky big, Isaiah Jackson. No indication Auburn PG Shariffe Cooper is being considered at 19/21.

Sorry- the Hield trade is a Woj bomb.

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Brooklyn has traded guard Landry Shamet to Phoenix for Jevon Carter and the 29th pick in tonight's draft, sources tell ESPN.

In comment 15316758 DanMetroMan said:

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and Harrell headed to Sacramento for Hield

wasnt the 22nd pick rumored to be in that as well?

In comment 15316765 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15316758 DanMetroMan said: Quote: and Harrell headed to Sacramento for Hield wasnt the 22nd pick rumored to be in that as well?

If it's part of the deal he hasn't mentioned it yet

He's injury prone and is the exact same player today that he was when he entered the league. The only real improvement has been committing fewer fouls. He's not a bad player but he's looking like he'll always be a fairly limited player.

doubt he wants to play for the kings, especially on the cheap deal he signed with the Lakers.

and i say that as more of a fan then Russ then most. He needs the ball though, so now AD/LEbron have the ball less????

Shams Charania

Just in: The Lakers and Wizards are engaged on a trade that would send Russell Westbrook to L.A., sources tell
@TheAthletic @Stadium
. Westbrook wants a move elsewhere and the Lakers are his preferred destination, sources said.

In comment 15316770 Italianju said:

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doubt he wants to play for the kings, especially on the cheap deal he signed with the Lakers.

he has already opted in

does beal ask out?

they had to wait for his opt in to complete the deal. Surprised he was willing to opt in knowing he was going to the Kings. Its one thing to play for less then market value for the Lakers, but 1 year 9 mill to play for the Kings? He could easily have beat that in free agency. Maybe lebron promised him a role in Space Jam 3

what could the wiz be getting. I get that Russ's contract is awful, but if your the wiz you have to get something back. Russ still is a good NBA player who puts butts in seats. Trading him for KCP makes no sense. I mean it gives them capspace but who is signing in WAS? Especially knowing that Beal might be gone in a year.

but he was at least a name the wiz could be getting back, lol.

Westbrook to Lakers heating up

In comment 15316781 Italianju said:

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what could the wiz be getting. I get that Russ's contract is awful, but if your the wiz you have to get something back. Russ still is a good NBA player who puts butts in seats. Trading him for KCP makes no sense. I mean it gives them capspace but who is signing in WAS? Especially knowing that Beal might be gone in a year.

No apparently kings deal is dead

Shams Charania
The Lakers and Wizards are discussing a trade that would send Kyle Kuzma, Montrezl Harrell, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope for Westbrook, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The Lakers' No. 22 pick in the Draft could be in play, too. twitter.com/ShamsCharania/…

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
Lakers and Wizards are in serious talks on a Russell Westbrook trade to L.A., sources tell @TheAthletic
@Stadium
. Westbrook has become the Lakers‘ primary focus. He would give them a dynamic playmaker alongside LeBron James and Anthony Davis.

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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The Lakers are near a deal to acquire Washington's Russell Westbrook for Kyle Kuzma, Montrezl Harrell, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a 2021 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

i mean his contract is awful and only a couple teams would even entertain trading for. Getting a first, Kuzma and Harrell isnt bad.

Nice work.

Russ is obviously the bigger name but I thought Hield was a better fit for them. Russ dominating the ball means the ball isn’t in Lebron’s hands which makes them a worse team

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In comment 15316789 Italianju said:

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i mean his contract is awful and only a couple teams would even entertain trading for. Getting a first, Kuzma and Harrell isnt bad.

I agree. A year ago no one wanted him. It took the Rockets taking back Wall’s contract to get the deal done

I think the return was about salaries. They would’ve taken almost whatever to make it happen.

is staying with the Wizards per Marcus Thompson

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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TRADE: The Cleveland Cavaliers are acquiring Minnesota Timberwolves G Ricky Rubio, a 2022 second-round pick and cash for F Taurean Prince, sources tell ESPN.

In comment 15316818 DanMetroMan said:

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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn · 1m TRADE: The Cleveland Cavaliers are acquiring Minnesota Timberwolves G Ricky Rubio, a 2022 second-round pick and cash for F Taurean Prince, sources tell ESPN.

Open up a sexton trade?

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In comment 15316793 Strahan91 said:

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Russ is obviously the bigger name but I thought Hield was a better fit for them. Russ dominating the ball means the ball isn’t in Lebron’s hands which makes them a worse team

I honestly think Hield is untradable. He looked absolutely awful this year. Even considering he was on a bad team, he looked bad. He’s signed l think for another 3 years at $20M+ per year. He complained ad nauseam when he got his 4 yr /90M deal, repeatedly said he felt disrespected and then went on to relatively suck ass. Part of me wonders if the money made him relax? Either way I was thinking about it the other day and wasn’t sure if I’d take the Kings pick (I.e. move up 10 spots) In exchange for Buddy Hield. That contract could set us back. Not saying that’s on the table just saying that’s honestly how much I feel his contract/ability combo at this point is just toxic. Just my opinion.

for them to move sexton. Although Rubio could also just be a backup they think fits better then prince.

In comment 15316827 Leg of Theismann said:

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I honestly think Hield is untradable. He looked absolutely awful this year. Even considering he was on a bad team, he looked bad. He’s signed l think for another 3 years at $20M+ per year. He complained ad nauseam when he got his 4 yr /90M deal, repeatedly said he felt disrespected and then went on to relatively suck ass. Part of me wonders if the money made him relax? Either way I was thinking about it the other day and wasn’t sure if I’d take the Kings pick (I.e. move up 10 spots) In exchange for Buddy Hield. That contract could set us back. Not saying that’s on the table just saying that’s honestly how much I feel his contract/ability combo at this point is just toxic. Just my opinion.

Lebron always gets the best out of guys like that. In that situation, his attitude/work ethic wouldn't scare me one bit.