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NFT: MLB Deadline: Dodgers Working on Scherzer and Trea Turner

ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/29/2021 8:20 pm
According to Passan.

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BREAKING: The Los Angeles Dodgers are making significant progress on a deal that would send them star right-hander Max Scherzer and star shortstop Trea Turner from the Washington Nationals for a prospect-laden return, sources tell ESPN.


This is a whopper.
Giving away Turner...  
bw in dc : 7/29/2021 8:24 pm : link
would be hugely unexpected.

If true, the return to the Nats had better be huge.
Unbelievable  
Danny Kanell : 7/29/2021 8:26 pm : link
And the Yankees are moving useful players to stay under the tax threshold.
Would love  
terz22 : 7/29/2021 8:29 pm : link
Turner in pinstripes.
....  
BleedBlue : 7/29/2021 8:33 pm : link
Who beats them now?


Thats a move old yanks would make. New yanks jus stand pat and dumpster dive for groceries
RE: Unbelievable  
BigBlueShock : 7/29/2021 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15316946 Danny Kanell said:
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And the Yankees are moving useful players to stay under the tax threshold.

For some reason the Dodgers always get a pass for their over the top spending. The Yankees are the villains while LA goes unnoticed
RE: RE: Unbelievable  
Stan in LA : 7/29/2021 8:37 pm : link
In comment 15316960 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15316946 Danny Kanell said:


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And the Yankees are moving useful players to stay under the tax threshold.


For some reason the Dodgers always get a pass for their over the top spending. The Yankees are the villains while LA goes unnoticed

Funny how that works.
RE: Giving away Turner...  
RCPhoenix : 7/29/2021 8:44 pm : link
In comment 15316944 bw in dc said:
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would be hugely unexpected.

If true, the return to the Nats had better be huge.


Likely an acknowledgment that they aren't going to spend $$$ to keep him. Which is a shame, but given how deficient the Nationals are at multiple positions, a prospect haul and rebuild is what this team needs, and it needs it badly. With all of that money tied up with Strasburg & Corbin they don't have a lot of great options with free agency, and their farm system is sorely lacking (ranked #30 here):

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The Nats will average  
DCOrange : 7/29/2021 8:56 pm : link
Bandwagon is officially dead. Back to big visitor fan crowds for a couple teams and an empty stadium for the rest.
this is a very stern kick in the nuts  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2021 9:01 pm : link
for met fans. oy.
RE: this is a very stern kick in the nuts  
ryanmkeane : 7/29/2021 9:13 pm : link
In comment 15316994 Eric on Li said:
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for met fans. oy.

Why? Trea Turner and Scherzer are now out of the division for good
I can’t believe they traded Turner  
ryanmkeane : 7/29/2021 9:14 pm : link
he’s truly one of the top 5 talents in the game
Looks like it’s happening  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/29/2021 9:14 pm : link
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BREAKING: The Dodgers are finalizing a deal to acquire star right-hander Max Scherzer and star shortstop Trea Turner from the Washington Nationals for a massive prospect haul, sources tell ESPN. The blockbuster of blockbusters is going to happen.


Per Passan
Ken  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/29/2021 9:16 pm : link
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Ken Rosenthal
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If trade is completed, full package headed to Nationals for Scherzer and Turner will be C Keibert Ruiz, RHP Josiah Gray and two mid-range prospects, sources tell
@TheAthletic
This tells me...  
bw in dc : 7/29/2021 9:16 pm : link
Bauer is not coming back.
Dodgers are unreal  
Breeze_94 : 7/29/2021 9:25 pm : link
2 years ago they traded

Yasiel Puig (out of league), Matt Kemp (out of league), and Alex Wood (back of rotation starter) for Jeter Downs and Josiah Gray

They then used Downs and Gray, as well as Alex Verdugo and lower level prospects to acquire Max, Betts, and Turner

So the final trade looks something like:

Puig, Kemp, Alex Wood and Verdguo for Betts, Scherzer, and Turner
This is sickening  
adamg : 7/29/2021 9:29 pm : link
Yanks just fiddling themselves. Fuck.
RE: RE: this is a very stern kick in the nuts  
cokeduplt : 7/29/2021 9:36 pm : link
In comment 15317012 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 15316994 Eric on Li said:


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for met fans. oy.


Why? Trea Turner and Scherzer are now out of the division for good



Because they’re not beating the dodgers in the playoffs
Didn't  
JayBinQueens : 7/29/2021 9:43 pm : link
Scherzer go to SD?
Return  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/29/2021 9:49 pm : link
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Jesse Dougherty
@dougherty_jesse
Can confirm that the full return is Keibert and Josiah Gray — LA's top two prosects — plus RHP Gerardo Carrillo and outfielder Donovan Casey.


Honestly not the haul I was expecting for Max and Trea. Great work by the Dodgers.
RE: RE: RE: this is a very stern kick in the nuts  
ryanmkeane : 7/29/2021 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15317074 cokeduplt said:
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In comment 15316994 Eric on Li said:


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for met fans. oy.


Why? Trea Turner and Scherzer are now out of the division for good




Because they’re not beating the dodgers in the playoffs

Let’s worry about the playoffs if we get there.

I’m thrilled that Turner is out of the division. He’s been a Met killer his whole career. The Nats are gonna suck the rest of this year and next.
RE: RE: this is a very stern kick in the nuts  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2021 9:56 pm : link
In comment 15317012 ryanmkeane said:
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for met fans. oy.


Why? Trea Turner and Scherzer are now out of the division for good


The goal is winning a WS. Scherzer is now much more of an obstacle for this year (and likely beyond) than he was in WAS as currently constituted. Turner too.
I’m not worried about what  
ryanmkeane : 7/29/2021 10:01 pm : link
the Dodgers are doing. Once you get into the playoffs, anything can happen. Mets fans (me included) shouldn’t be talking about the World Series. We need to win the division and we need to get healthy.

The goal is to win the division and set yourself up for sustained success. Just because the Dodgers made a trade means nothing at this point.
RE: Return  
bw in dc : 7/29/2021 10:07 pm : link
In comment 15317097 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:
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Jesse Dougherty
@dougherty_jesse
Can confirm that the full return is Keibert and Josiah Gray — LA's top two prosects — plus RHP Gerardo Carrillo and outfielder Donovan Casey.



Honestly not the haul I was expecting for Max and Trea. Great work by the Dodgers.


I agree. The Nats should have been able to get more. They desperately need a third baseman - Kieboom has been awful as their future 3B - and the Dodgers have a good one in Vargas.
Don’t understand - ‘schezer’ is headed to San Diego was told  
MetsAreBack : 7/29/2021 10:18 pm : link

First one to retweet wins!
Aren't the Dodgers set at short with Seager?  
BigBlueNH : 7/29/2021 10:20 pm : link
I read they would play Turner at 2nd. But if you're giving up the kind of haul you'd have to give for Turner, aren't you diminishing his value by playing him at 2nd?
RE: I’m not worried about what  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2021 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15317124 ryanmkeane said:
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the Dodgers are doing. Once you get into the playoffs, anything can happen. Mets fans (me included) shouldn’t be talking about the World Series. We need to win the division and we need to get healthy.

The goal is to win the division and set yourself up for sustained success. Just because the Dodgers made a trade means nothing at this point.


The Dodgers won the WS in 2020.
They entered this year as the odds on favorite. (obviously pre-Scherzer/Turner)
They are currently the WS favorite.
They have the 2nd most wins in the NL and are now adding the 2nd most productive healthy position player in the NL and a HOF starter who were arguably the 2 best players on the 2019 WS winners.

The NYM have the 4th best WS odds in the NL. They are 7.5 up on the Nats. Of course they need to get healthy but that will or won't take care of itself. Scherzer and Turner going to the NLW is a lot worse than them going just about anywhere else.
RE: ....  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/29/2021 11:12 pm : link
In comment 15316959 BleedBlue said:
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Who beats them now?


Thats a move old yanks would make. New yanks jus stand pat and dumpster dive for groceries

Joey Gallo and Anthony Rizzo are dumpster dives?

Granted, they're not Turner and Scherzer, but the Yanks have genuinely added impact so far.
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JayBinQueens : 7/29/2021 11:14 pm : link
In comment 15317287 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Who beats them now?


Thats a move old yanks would make. New yanks jus stand pat and dumpster dive for groceries


Joey Gallo and Anthony Rizzo are dumpster dives?

Granted, they're not Turner and Scherzer, but the Yanks have genuinely added impact so far.

Stay off BBI Yankee threads if the team ever actually finishes below .500. It'll be ugly
Nats firesale continues  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/29/2021 11:15 pm : link
Red Sox get Schwarber for prospect Aldo Ramirez.
Schwarber would have looked nice in pinstripes  
adamg : 7/30/2021 12:57 am : link
ugh. Fuck the sox
RE: Schwarber would have looked nice in pinstripes  
Stan in LA : 7/30/2021 1:02 am : link
In comment 15317385 adamg said:
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ugh. Fuck the sox

Gallo >>> Schwarber
RE: RE: Schwarber would have looked nice in pinstripes  
adamg : 7/30/2021 1:10 am : link
In comment 15317386 Stan in LA said:
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ugh. Fuck the sox


Gallo >>> Schwarber

I hope you're right.
Corey Seager in Pinstripes?  
5BowlsSoon : 7/30/2021 6:58 am : link
For all you Yankee fans out there, it is not a secret that Seager will be a FA this off-season and has always loved the Yankees and would like to play for them. So, I’m pretty sure the Dodgers are planning his farewell. So, while you are lamenting losing Turner….drool over Seager, the man who won both MVP awards for the two playoffs including the WS.If you get him, which I suspect you will, life will be good again.

And yes, the Dodgers are probably not expecting to see Trevor Bauer take the field again….this year at least. So, I’m pretty sure they didn’t want to see San Diego pick up a 4th big name starting pitcher.

Lastly, two of the guys they gave up should be stars for the Nats for many years to come…JoJo Gray and Ruiz the catcher.
RE: Corey Seager in Pinstripes?  
LTIsTheGreatest : 7/30/2021 9:15 am : link
In comment 15317421 5BowlsSoon said:
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For all you Yankee fans out there, it is not a secret that Seager will be a FA this off-season and has always loved the Yankees and would like to play for them. So, I’m pretty sure the Dodgers are planning his farewell. So, while you are lamenting losing Turner….drool over Seager, the man who won both MVP awards for the two playoffs including the WS.If you get him, which I suspect you will, life will be good again.

And yes, the Dodgers are probably not expecting to see Trevor Bauer take the field again….this year at least. So, I’m pretty sure they didn’t want to see San Diego pick up a 4th big name starting pitcher.

Lastly, two of the guys they gave up should be stars for the Nats for many years to come…JoJo Gray and Ruiz the catcher.


Dont see Yanks giving out another 300 mill contract which is what Seager will be seeking.
I'd  
Steve in Greenwich : 7/30/2021 9:26 am : link
like to see the Dodgers win the world series just so Hal can't use the "you don't need to have a 250 million dollar payroll to win, just look at the Rays" speech after the Dodgers beat the Rays last year and win back to back championships with the highest payroll in baseball; although if that does happen look for the whiney small market teams to cry foul and try and make the luxury tax even more prohibitive.
RE: RE: Corey Seager in Pinstripes?  
5BowlsSoon : 7/30/2021 10:24 am : link
In comment 15317491 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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In comment 15317421 5BowlsSoon said:


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For all you Yankee fans out there, it is not a secret that Seager will be a FA this off-season and has always loved the Yankees and would like to play for them. So, I’m pretty sure the Dodgers are planning his farewell. So, while you are lamenting losing Turner….drool over Seager, the man who won both MVP awards for the two playoffs including the WS.If you get him, which I suspect you will, life will be good again.

And yes, the Dodgers are probably not expecting to see Trevor Bauer take the field again….this year at least. So, I’m pretty sure they didn’t want to see San Diego pick up a 4th big name starting pitcher.

Lastly, two of the guys they gave up should be stars for the Nats for many years to come…JoJo Gray and Ruiz the catcher.



Dont see Yanks giving out another 300 mill contract which is what Seager will be seeking.


They will…..he wants to be a Yankee, and the Dodgers won’t pay what he wants either, so I’m sure he will come down a bit just to wear the pinstripes. It is practically a done deal, amigo. Book it!
RE: RE: RE: Corey Seager in Pinstripes?  
rich in DC : 7/30/2021 11:11 am : link
In comment 15317599 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 15317421 5BowlsSoon said:


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For all you Yankee fans out there, it is not a secret that Seager will be a FA this off-season and has always loved the Yankees and would like to play for them. So, I’m pretty sure the Dodgers are planning his farewell. So, while you are lamenting losing Turner….drool over Seager, the man who won both MVP awards for the two playoffs including the WS.If you get him, which I suspect you will, life will be good again.

And yes, the Dodgers are probably not expecting to see Trevor Bauer take the field again….this year at least. So, I’m pretty sure they didn’t want to see San Diego pick up a 4th big name starting pitcher.

Lastly, two of the guys they gave up should be stars for the Nats for many years to come…JoJo Gray and Ruiz the catcher.



Dont see Yanks giving out another 300 mill contract which is what Seager will be seeking.



They will…..he wants to be a Yankee, and the Dodgers won’t pay what he wants either, so I’m sure he will come down a bit just to wear the pinstripes. It is practically a done deal, amigo. Book it!


It’s the whole reason why they are staying under the tax line this year.

They want to reset the tax penalty so that when they go over next year, they don’t suffer the major penalties. That allows them to be aggressive in FA next year- maybe not all on stars, but on players who will fill holes. For example, new SS, improvement in the back of the rotation, etc.
Apparently still not a done deal and the Padres  
Jints in Carolina : 7/30/2021 11:51 am : link
are waiting in the wings.
RE: Seems done to me  
5BowlsSoon : 7/30/2021 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15317673 Jints in Carolina said:
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are waiting in the wings.


Check out this link from 2 hours ago
Seems done to me - ( New Window )
RE: This is sickening  
Belowtheshadows : 7/30/2021 2:48 pm : link
In comment 15317058 adamg said:
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Yanks just fiddling themselves. Fuck.
They literally had already traded for Gallo and Rizzo when you made this stupid ass comment.
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