Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Bryant has been linked to the Mets for weeks but Baez is in the discussions as well. Baez could replace his great friend Lindor at SS, then switch to 2B once Lindor returns. Baez said aloud this week he wanted to team with Francisco. So either Bryant or Baez are possible for NYM.
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Zach Davies is a target for the Mets, who remain most focused on pitching. But his more high-profile teammates Kris Bryant and Javier Baez (one or the other) are also Mets possibilities.
Yes! Yes! Please!
Davies isn't very far off from being Eickhoff.
Something around Bryant and JDD makes a lot of sense and I think eventually the Cubs will come to that understanding as well.
Baez is interesting. That would be quite the injection of raw talent and enthusiasm.
I think we need to remind ourselves both of those Cubs guys have been MVP candidates in the not so distant past and are playing for contracts.
I'd hope to get a pitcher back in a deal for either player. Davies would be perfectly fine.
Not sure if the CHC package is better than Story/Gray. But hopefully those teams really want to save money like the Nats did because the LAD already did their business. NYY/BOS too, though either could do some more.
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the eikhoff's of the world. He isnt very good but better then some of the guys we have thrown out there or taxing your bullpen in a bullpen game. Look if Degrom and Carrasco cant get/stay healthy it doesnt matter so in theory you have Degrom/Carrasco/Stroman/Walker and then Megill and Hill with Peterson possibly returning at some point. So outside of like Berrios or Grey (supposedly not available) there arent many guys who are going to slot into the rotation for us. Would i give up anything of value for Davies, hell no, but i wouldnt hate the add.
Davies isn't very far off from being Eickhoff.
um wtf no, Davies is sporting a 4.3 ERA right now and puts the ball in play kind of pitcher.
With a sound infield (which we will have) that ERA can improve and consider we are looking for pitching depth and don't want to move a top 10 prospect this could be the ideal fit.
Unless you want to gut the farm for Berrios, which I totally disagree with.
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the eikhoff's of the world. He isnt very good but better then some of the guys we have thrown out there or taxing your bullpen in a bullpen game. Look if Degrom and Carrasco cant get/stay healthy it doesnt matter so in theory you have Degrom/Carrasco/Stroman/Walker and then Megill and Hill with Peterson possibly returning at some point. So outside of like Berrios or Grey (supposedly not available) there arent many guys who are going to slot into the rotation for us. Would i give up anything of value for Davies, hell no, but i wouldnt hate the add.
Davies isn't very far off from being Eickhoff.
um wtf no, Davies is sporting a 4.3 ERA right now and puts the ball in play kind of pitcher.
With a sound infield (which we will have) that ERA can improve and consider we are looking for pitching depth and don't want to move a top 10 prospect this could be the ideal fit.
Unless you want to gut the farm for Berrios, which I totally disagree with.
4.39 ERA/5.67 xERA/4.66 FIP/5.20 xFIP
Horrible numbers and his FIP is worse than ERA so has nothing to do with current defense.
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the eikhoff's of the world. He isnt very good but better then some of the guys we have thrown out there or taxing your bullpen in a bullpen game. Look if Degrom and Carrasco cant get/stay healthy it doesnt matter so in theory you have Degrom/Carrasco/Stroman/Walker and then Megill and Hill with Peterson possibly returning at some point. So outside of like Berrios or Grey (supposedly not available) there arent many guys who are going to slot into the rotation for us. Would i give up anything of value for Davies, hell no, but i wouldnt hate the add.
Davies isn't very far off from being Eickhoff.
um wtf no, Davies is sporting a 4.3 ERA right now and puts the ball in play kind of pitcher.
With a sound infield (which we will have) that ERA can improve and consider we are looking for pitching depth and don't want to move a top 10 prospect this could be the ideal fit.
Unless you want to gut the farm for Berrios, which I totally disagree with.
4.39 ERA/5.67 xERA/4.66 FIP/5.20 xFIP
Horrible numbers and his FIP is worse than ERA so has nothing to do with current defense.
I'm not debating that his performance is great, I understand its sub-par and that's why the return isn't a top level prospect.
so if not a Davies type you want for depth what's your proposed solution?
Either way I'm glad they have Sandy around. I feel pretty confident there won't be any fleecing a la BVW. Also pretty confident they will add at least 1 P and 1 hitter today which should make a solid team even better. Then just need to hope they get healthy.
Give me a reliever, Bryant, and a depth SP and I’m more than good.
Oh and fuck the Dodgers.
You obviously HAVE to clear a spot for Carrasco.
Give me a reliever, Bryant, and a depth SP and I’m more than good.
Oh and fuck the Dodgers.
Jamie - I agree with you here in terms of need... Would you trade a better prospect like a Mauricio or Baty to the Cubs if you can get Bryant, Kimbrel and Davies? 3 Rentals for 1 prospect?
You obviously HAVE to clear a spot for Carrasco.
I agree, which is why I don't think pitching is as big a need as some. If you want to argue that deGrom hasn't been able to stay healthy, my counter would be that we're not going far w/o JdG no matter who we trade for (short of Scherzer, maybe).
I'm intrigued by the Baez idea, he'd really help with the bat and glove, and his presence could give Lindor a big lift. My main concern is that it would move McNeil to 3B, and that scares me.
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Rentals only please.
Give me a reliever, Bryant, and a depth SP and I’m more than good.
Oh and fuck the Dodgers.
Jamie - I agree with you here in terms of need... Would you trade a better prospect like a Mauricio or Baty to the Cubs if you can get Bryant, Kimbrel and Davies? 3 Rentals for 1 prospect?
Kimbrel isn’t a rental. He’s actually got a very affordable vesting option for next year. I like Kimbrel and thinks he helps our bottom line more than any other player BUT, because of that extra year of control he’s going to require something that’s going to sting like a Mauricio.
I go back and forth but I think most of these rentals can be had for less than a top 6-7 prospect. I’d probably try to stick to that route if I could.
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Rentals only please.
Give me a reliever, Bryant, and a depth SP and I’m more than good.
Oh and fuck the Dodgers.
Jamie - I agree with you here in terms of need... Would you trade a better prospect like a Mauricio or Baty to the Cubs if you can get Bryant, Kimbrel and Davies? 3 Rentals for 1 prospect?
NOPE, you guys forget to add 3 people to the roster like that ...who gets sent down/DFA'd
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Hes back. He’s literally our starting pitcher tonight and is coming off a non arm injury. He’ll be capped at 60-ish pitches but after tonight he should be close to full go.
You obviously HAVE to clear a spot for Carrasco.
I agree, which is why I don't think pitching is as big a need as some. If you want to argue that deGrom hasn't been able to stay healthy, my counter would be that we're not going far w/o JdG no matter who we trade for (short of Scherzer, maybe).
I'm intrigued by the Baez idea, he'd really help with the bat and glove, and his presence could give Lindor a big lift. My main concern is that it would move McNeil to 3B, and that scares me.
I like Bryant more than Baez but yeah… if you added Baez you start him at SS and figure it out later..
I realize some of our Pitchers are coming back....but who knows what to expect from Cookie ? Is Thor going to ever throw a pitch this year ?? As a Starter or out of the Pen ?? Walker has become sketchy of late.
Not really interested in Bryant, doesn't he have a bad elbow ?? not what you want in a third-baseman. Baez might be of interest, but he's eventually going to move McNeil to 3B, not his ideal position.
Certain Minor Leaguers are off the table, as far as I'm concerned. Ronny Mo might be tradeable and he is at peak value right now. But Vientos, Baty, PCA, Palmer and any of the top tier Pitching prospects are non-tradeable in my opinion.
Uncle Steve can kick in 'Cash Considerations' rather than trading top tier prospects.
LFGM !!
The DL and skipping a few starts. Just has not pitched much two previous years
Another possible factor is Josh Walker. 8 innings of one hit ball for Syracuse last night. He and Megill both coming out of nowhere.
will be interesting to see who blinks ahead of the deadline.
The guy also has a ring. Could be a steadying influence down the stretch
@TheAthletic
. Could trade for one of them individually or both together. No indication a deal is close.
I was being a little hyperbolic but my point of trading for a SP who isn't very good for the sake of trading for a SP doesn't do much here. A pitcher who might put up a 5 ERA does nothing for us. Obviously Davies has had a much better career than Eickhoff.
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Sources: Mets have had conversations with the Twins about outfielder Byron Buxton.
@mikemayer22
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Sources: Mets have had conversations with the Twins about outfielder Byron Buxton.
well that would be interesting.
only has 1 year of control after this and the injuries who knows.
Superficially it seems to me like an extra cost controlled year is significantly overvalued right now. But I guess the idea is that you're paying for 1.5 years of production plus the opportunity cost of the QO match 1st round pick? Whereas with a rental you can't do extend a QO. Guess it makes more sense considering that.
Unless of course I see something different.
deGrom is too much of a wild card right now and if he's not right and part of the rotation I'm not a buyer.
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The White Sox are finalizing a deal to acquire closer Craig Kimbrel from the Cubs, sources tell @JeffPassan
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The White Sox paid a massive price for Craig Kimbrel: second baseman Nick Madrigal and reliever Codi Heuer, sources tell ESPN.
When I said at the top of the show that Cubs had the chance to remake themselves for the next five years in the next two hours, this is what I meant.
The White Sox paid a massive price for Craig Kimbrel: second baseman Nick Madrigal and reliever Codi Heuer, sources tell ESPN.
When I said at the top of the show that Cubs had the chance to remake themselves for the next five years in the next two hours, this is what I meant.
Wow. Great haul for the Cubs. In a league gone strikeout-mad, Madrigal's k rate is SEXY.
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#Mets making movement toward Javy Baez. Maybe a pitcher in the deal too
would love to grab Baez.
Mets have talked to the Twins about another right-handed starter, Kenta Maeda.
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Source: Mets have a deal for Baez
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Mets are talking about adding a pitcher from Cubs in addition to Javier Báez, either Zach Davies or Trevor Williams, source tells @TheAthletic
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@BleacherReport
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BREAKING: METS MAKE A SPLASH Flushed face @BRWalkoff
New York is finalizing a deal for Javier Báez from Cubs, per multiple reports
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Source confirms: Báez and Trevor Williams to Mets, pending medical review. First with Báez: @feinsand
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but bigger fish would have cost more, only hope these two didn't cost a ton.
but bigger fish would have cost more, only hope these two didn't cost a ton.
I hope so to.
Hopefully they didn't overpay.
sadly, I don't believe that will be the case.
Always braced for the worst, because I'm an unapologetic prospect hugger.
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Center fielder Pete Crow Armstrong will be going to the #Cubs from the #Mets in the Baez trade
@BNightengale
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Center fielder Pete Crow Armstrong will be going to the #Cubs from the #Mets in the Baez trade
Wow...another one now where we kind of have to extend Baez to justify this...
But..at least it's not Baty, Alvarez, Mauricio
Awful deal.
Awful deal.
Don't get me wrong, PCA looked intriguing before he got hurt, but if Baez signs longterm (he said he would change positions to play with Lindor) next year you have McNeil or Cano at 2B and Baez at 3B. Once Cano's monstrosity is over you slide Baez to 2B and Baty at 3B. Mauricio has to go somewhere so you put him in CF. Where does that leave PCA?
PCA was viewed as the CF of the future for the Mets.
I think so.
you mean rizzo?
And Williams is awful. Guy might not even still be on the team by the end of the season.
Depends what you think of Baez. PCA, for a HS kid who did not play after being drafted due to COVID shutting down the minors, did not look out of place in a small sample size before getting hurt. He was doing it as one of the youngest players in his league. The hit tool is legit as well as the defense. The one question he has will be how much in game power actually develops.
Maybe a little more power from 2B, and a great base runner. McNeil will play third a lot more when Lindor is back, J.D. vs lefties.
My guess is when Lindor returns we see a lot less Villar.
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You gotta be effing kidding me.
Awful deal.
Don't get me wrong, PCA looked intriguing before he got hurt, but if Baez signs longterm (he said he would change positions to play with Lindor) next year you have McNeil or Cano at 2B and Baez at 3B. Once Cano's monstrosity is over you slide Baez to 2B and Baty at 3B. Mauricio has to go somewhere so you put him in CF. Where does that leave PCA?
Lol...I literally forgot that Cano was a Met. Hopefully he retires.
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Mets really failed this deadline. Damn
you mean rizzo?
No rumors they were in on Bryant too. Guess just rumors still.
My thoughts exactly!
It’s fine overall but PCA was WAY too much to give up. His surgery was on his non throwing arm. Unless, his surgery was a complete disaster I wouldn’t have given him up.
Losing PCA sucks even with the injury. No sugar coating that. He sounded like a potential GG CF so even if Mauricio and 1 of Baty/Vientos move to the OF, CF will still be thin. Unless Mauricio moves to CF? I would have liked to get a better 2nd player in this deal. Williams is better than Eikhoff but that's about it.
This stings but I do think Baez is a big time addition. He is absolutely the type of high upside pickup I was hoping for.
Losing PCA sucks even with the injury. No sugar coating that. He sounded like a potential GG CF so even if Mauricio and 1 of Baty/Vientos move to the OF, CF will still be thin. Unless Mauricio moves to CF? I would have liked to get a better 2nd player in this deal. Williams is better than Eikhoff but that's about it.
This stings but I do think Baez is a big time addition. He is absolutely the type of high upside pickup I was hoping for.
A better 2nd player probably adds to the prospects they give up. Is Davies that much better than Williams? It looks like Williams's biggest issue is the long ball. If Hefner sees something he can fix in the short term at least we have another playable arm so we can avoid Eickhoff, Banda, etc.
I kind of doubt that. I think more likely is if they are considering shifting Mauricio and others to the OF who would be higher on the prospect depth chart than PCA. Plus the injury uncertainty probably makes it easier to deal him now even if the prognosis is a full recovery (kind of like when they almost dealt Wheeler for Gomez).
So with so many IF'ers on the big league roster, do we think this means JDD (or someone else) getting traded out? Maybe JDD for a pitcher? Mayer is saying they are about to add someone and floated Maeda.
I think this is a decent move. No way imo does this make us arguably worse when Lindor returns.
Some of you sound ridiculous and then others agree.
It's ok to say it's a shitty trade even if you support the reasons they made it. You don't have to put your head in the sand
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The #Mets have reportedly acquired SS Javier Baez ($8.7M median trade value) and RHP Trevor Williams ($2.1M) from the #Cubs in exchange for OF Pete Crow-Armstrong ($17.5M).
The deal is accepted, but as a major overpay by New York.
@BaseballValues
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Even as an overpay, this seems in line with some of the crazy deals we've seen today.
Additionally, Crow-Armstrong is a particularly high-variance prospect, given his age and questions about his bat.
rich hill
Some of you sound ridiculous and then others agree.
It's ok to say it's a shitty trade even if you support the reasons they made it. You don't have to put your head in the sand
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The #Mets have reportedly acquired SS Javier Baez ($8.7M median trade value) and RHP Trevor Williams ($2.1M) from the #Cubs in exchange for OF Pete Crow-Armstrong ($17.5M).
The deal is accepted, but as a major overpay by New York.
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Even as an overpay, this seems in line with some of the crazy deals we've seen today.
Additionally, Crow-Armstrong is a particularly high-variance prospect, given his age and questions about his bat.
I mean the comment is pretty self explanatory. Mets made a trade for one of the most exciting players in baseball and some choose to cry about losing a 19 year old prospect instead. Shitty trade or not (no one actually knows) why would anyone choose to be upset about something that might go bad in 3 years? And you're analogy is fine, except I would happily enjoy a $16,000 pint of ice cream if Steve Cohen is paying for it.
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The Mets need to make one more move for a pitcher. Trevor Williams cannot be our only pitching addition.
rich hill
OK. Forgot about him. But even with the addition of Williams and Hill, the needle needs to be moved a bit further. Baez is a nice acquisition but this team needs pitching.
sure, if he's extended that can change things, but expanding on what I said before to me this means the Mets think deGrom will be fine and he's not far from joining the rotation.
Otherwise, Baez was a FA after the season and would have been available just for a contract (assuming he was traded elsewhere).
If the Mets do not contend this season they gave up a top 5 prospect at a thin position in a thin system for no reason.
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The Mets need to make one more move for a pitcher. Trevor Williams cannot be our only pitching addition.
rich hill
OK. Forgot about him. But even with the addition of Williams and Hill, the needle needs to be moved a bit further. Baez is a nice acquisition but this team needs pitching.
there is still a few mins
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That site vastly overrates the long term value of prospects and I think underrates Baez because it does not take into account that he wants to play with Lindor. I am sure the Mets reached out to his camp to see if they would be reasonable on a long term deal.
sure, if he's extended that can change things, but expanding on what I said before to me this means the Mets think deGrom will be fine and he's not far from joining the rotation.
Otherwise, Baez was a FA after the season and would have been available just for a contract (assuming he was traded elsewhere).
If the Mets do not contend this season they gave up a top 5 prospect at a thin position in a thin system for no reason.
You already admitted you're a "pospect hugger" which is fine but other people get excited when their team brings in exciting players that have reached very high levels of play at the big league level. The Mets are trying to win a division THIS year. Baez will help.
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That site vastly overrates the long term value of prospects and I think underrates Baez because it does not take into account that he wants to play with Lindor. I am sure the Mets reached out to his camp to see if they would be reasonable on a long term deal.
sure, if he's extended that can change things, but expanding on what I said before to me this means the Mets think deGrom will be fine and he's not far from joining the rotation.
Otherwise, Baez was a FA after the season and would have been available just for a contract (assuming he was traded elsewhere).
If the Mets do not contend this season they gave up a top 5 prospect at a thin position in a thin system for no reason.
You already admitted you're a "pospect hugger" which is fine but other people get excited when their team brings in exciting players that have reached very high levels of play at the big league level. The Mets are trying to win a division THIS year. Baez will help.
My comment was about people being excited, I think Baez can add a spark, maybe, and I hope he does, but my comment was about the people being excited for some reason insulting people who feel like to get that player (Baez) the Mets paid too much.
not sure why it cannot be both. or why people feel the need to insult others for their opinions.
also in terms of prospect valuation, FG values 45 grade prospects as worth $6m. 45+ are worth $8m. 50 grade jump up to $28m. They've had PCA ranked as a 45, and obviously he's also an injured 45. Which is context that matters compared to another 45 like Vientos who is obviously in the midst of a monster season. For PCA to bump up to a 50 he would probably have to hit a lot when he comes back. Not impossible and at all but not a given.
At the MLB level I believe fwar are generally valued between $5-10m so if he produces 1-2 fwar in the back half of the year, it's a pretty even up trade. As Mike said if he fits really well and wants to remain here there's bigger upside.
Again, I'm bummed to give up a potential GG Cf, but I'm more pumped to get an actual GG middle infielder to combo with Lindor. And not only that but a GG middle infielder who may outhomer Alonso this year. And if there's a reasonable multi-year deal to be had even better.
jd can also play LF
Bart isn't in the deal. Report was incorrect
Mark Feinsand
@Feinsand
Cubs receive OF Alexander Canario (No. 9 SF prospect per
@MLBPipeline
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Alonso, Baez, Lindor, McNeil/Davis.
Defense is phenomenal up the middle and the offense at third makes up for a little less than average defense there.
McNeil can also play OF.
Lost in the deal is the Mets got a lot better vs LH pitching.
Baez with a .965 OPS and BA of .301 vs lefties this year. Career .882 OPS vs lefties. He's also having a really good July.
This deal makes the Mets better defensively and offensively.
No idea if it's the upcoming CBA or owners pocketed more cash than they expected last year with the lower player salaries but I think we saw more buyers this year than the last decade combined (which explains why prices were higher too).
Deesha
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The Twins wanted a package that included at least Dominic Smith and shortstop prospect Ronny Mauricio from Mets for Jose Berrios, per sources.
Mets maintained Minnesota’s request was too high.
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The Twins wanted a package that included at least Dominic Smith and shortstop prospect Ronny Mauricio from Mets for Jose Berrios, per sources.
Mets maintained Minnesota’s request was too high. Link - ( New Window )
At Least??? LMFAO.
Deesha
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The Twins wanted a package that included at least Dominic Smith and shortstop prospect Ronny Mauricio from Mets for Jose Berrios, per sources.
Mets maintained Minnesota’s request was too high. Link - ( New Window )
I think that demonstrates that Dom is well thought of.
Oh well, the biggest improvement should come from within. Pray for health and guys to play up to career averages.
Deesha
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The Twins wanted a package that included at least Dominic Smith and shortstop prospect Ronny Mauricio from Mets for Jose Berrios, per sources.
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that Blue Jays traded included a top 20 prospect (Martin) and a top 70 (SWR).
So, the Twins got a good deal.
Oh well, the biggest improvement should come from within. Pray for health and guys to play up to career averages.
I'd guess they expect a starter to go to the BP and whoever that is to be as good or better than what was available. If the other SP get healthy someone like Megill could be a weapon out of the pen. Also a good use of his innings if he's capped.
Even if it were Harvey, I'd have liked to see them add 1 more arm though.
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A lot of good names moved for peanuts.
Oh well, the biggest improvement should come from within. Pray for health and guys to play up to career averages.
I'd guess they expect a starter to go to the BP and whoever that is to be as good or better than what was available. If the other SP get healthy someone like Megill could be a weapon out of the pen. Also a good use of his innings if he's capped.
Even if it were Harvey, I'd have liked to see them add 1 more arm though.
if thor makes it back hes going in the pen
Agreed but I think they had some room to go before they hit it and there's no more waivers deadline, so presumably not much risk in having any more cushion. But I guess you never know. Maybe they are guessing someone with a decent salary gets cut or something.
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The Cubs included enough cash in their deal with the Mets to pay Baez and Williams' contracts down so the Mets will pay just the league-minimum, per source.
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Makes no sense to go into the penalty by only a million dollars or so. If you’re going to go over, really go over.
Agreed but I think they had some room to go before they hit it and there's no more waivers deadline, so presumably not much risk in having any more cushion. But I guess you never know. Maybe they are guessing someone with a decent salary gets cut or something.
they wee also trying to add another pitcher before the deadline
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Makes no sense to go into the penalty by only a million dollars or so. If you’re going to go over, really go over.
Agreed but I think they had some room to go before they hit it and there's no more waivers deadline, so presumably not much risk in having any more cushion. But I guess you never know. Maybe they are guessing someone with a decent salary gets cut or something.
they wee also trying to add another pitcher before the deadline
That too good point.
I expect him to be signed. He is real close with Lindor, and the two of them were on the PR team for the WBC together.
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The Mets need to make one more move for a pitcher. Trevor Williams cannot be our only pitching addition.
rich hill
And Carrasco.
Well this post didn't age well
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Or do we think he’ll be signed long term.
I expect him to be signed. He is real close with Lindor, and the two of them were on the PR team for the WBC together.
I’d be surprised if that’s where they put their money but if it’s what Lindor wants I think it will be considered.
If they do, I would think that is definitely the end for Conforto which will leave them with big holes in the outfield.
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Orioles starting pitcher Matt Harvey throws six scoreless innings against the Tigers, marking his third consecutive start without allowing a run
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Or do we think he’ll be signed long term.
I expect him to be signed. He is real close with Lindor, and the two of them were on the PR team for the WBC together.
I’d be surprised if that’s where they put their money but if it’s what Lindor wants I think it will be considered.
If they do, I would think that is definitely the end for Conforto which will leave them with big holes in the outfield.
Conforto is a big hole in the OF right now. If it were between them, I would pay Baez
But J.D. is controllable at third, and McNeil can play corner outfield, so I can see McNeil replacing Conforto in RF. However, we're probably getting DH next year, so it makes no sense for Dom to remain a LFer. Nimmo could also move to a corner, and then I guess a lot depends on Khalil Lee, who Ks a bunch, but could take over in CF. FWIW, Lee has an .852 OPS in AAA this year, bolstered by a ~20% walk rate. But I just don't know if you can count on Lee next year as a ML starter in a big market team OF.
The Mets could certainly hedge with Pillar in CF next year, or platoon him with Lee and Nimmo and mix and match LF and 3rd, and this is where a surprise candidate could emerge...Mark Vientos. Probably not early in the season, but say he's promoted to AAA to start next year, say he crushes it in the Spring and in AAA...then I don't have to squint too hard to see him in Queens around the ASB of '22.
And if Conforto continues to struggle at the plate this season, he could sign a QO to re-establish his value.
Since when?
I think Conforto is done in NY
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and I had a hard time seeing anyone giving him the kind of crazy money that he was rumored to be asking for before this season. I'd be really surprised if he doesn't take a 1 year deal this offseason. I'd be open to getting him on a 2 or 3 year deal at a FMV but I doubt he settles for that.
I think Conforto is done in NY
Who is paying him though? I doubt anyone would even risk matching the Ozuna/Castellanos contracts for him, and that's half of what his rumored asking price was when the NYM were talking about an extension. I do think the NYM would sign him to that type of extension and I do think they will offer him a QO so I'd be surprised if he's not back.