Jon Heyman
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Bryant has been linked to the Mets for weeks but Baez is in the discussions as well. Baez could replace his great friend Lindor at SS, then switch to 2B once Lindor returns. Baez said aloud this week he wanted to team with Francisco. So either Bryant or Baez are possible for NYM.
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Zach Davies is a target for the Mets, who remain most focused on pitching. But his more high-profile teammates Kris Bryant and Javier Baez (one or the other) are also Mets possibilities.
Yes! Yes! Please!
Davies isn't very far off from being Eickhoff.
Something around Bryant and JDD makes a lot of sense and I think eventually the Cubs will come to that understanding as well.
Baez is interesting. That would be quite the injection of raw talent and enthusiasm.
I think we need to remind ourselves both of those Cubs guys have been MVP candidates in the not so distant past and are playing for contracts.
I'd hope to get a pitcher back in a deal for either player. Davies would be perfectly fine.
Not sure if the CHC package is better than Story/Gray. But hopefully those teams really want to save money like the Nats did because the LAD already did their business. NYY/BOS too, though either could do some more.
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the eikhoff's of the world. He isnt very good but better then some of the guys we have thrown out there or taxing your bullpen in a bullpen game. Look if Degrom and Carrasco cant get/stay healthy it doesnt matter so in theory you have Degrom/Carrasco/Stroman/Walker and then Megill and Hill with Peterson possibly returning at some point. So outside of like Berrios or Grey (supposedly not available) there arent many guys who are going to slot into the rotation for us. Would i give up anything of value for Davies, hell no, but i wouldnt hate the add.
Davies isn't very far off from being Eickhoff.
um wtf no, Davies is sporting a 4.3 ERA right now and puts the ball in play kind of pitcher.
With a sound infield (which we will have) that ERA can improve and consider we are looking for pitching depth and don't want to move a top 10 prospect this could be the ideal fit.
Unless you want to gut the farm for Berrios, which I totally disagree with.
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the eikhoff's of the world. He isnt very good but better then some of the guys we have thrown out there or taxing your bullpen in a bullpen game. Look if Degrom and Carrasco cant get/stay healthy it doesnt matter so in theory you have Degrom/Carrasco/Stroman/Walker and then Megill and Hill with Peterson possibly returning at some point. So outside of like Berrios or Grey (supposedly not available) there arent many guys who are going to slot into the rotation for us. Would i give up anything of value for Davies, hell no, but i wouldnt hate the add.
Davies isn't very far off from being Eickhoff.
um wtf no, Davies is sporting a 4.3 ERA right now and puts the ball in play kind of pitcher.
With a sound infield (which we will have) that ERA can improve and consider we are looking for pitching depth and don't want to move a top 10 prospect this could be the ideal fit.
Unless you want to gut the farm for Berrios, which I totally disagree with.
4.39 ERA/5.67 xERA/4.66 FIP/5.20 xFIP
Horrible numbers and his FIP is worse than ERA so has nothing to do with current defense.
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In comment 15317575 Italianju said:
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the eikhoff's of the world. He isnt very good but better then some of the guys we have thrown out there or taxing your bullpen in a bullpen game. Look if Degrom and Carrasco cant get/stay healthy it doesnt matter so in theory you have Degrom/Carrasco/Stroman/Walker and then Megill and Hill with Peterson possibly returning at some point. So outside of like Berrios or Grey (supposedly not available) there arent many guys who are going to slot into the rotation for us. Would i give up anything of value for Davies, hell no, but i wouldnt hate the add.
Davies isn't very far off from being Eickhoff.
um wtf no, Davies is sporting a 4.3 ERA right now and puts the ball in play kind of pitcher.
With a sound infield (which we will have) that ERA can improve and consider we are looking for pitching depth and don't want to move a top 10 prospect this could be the ideal fit.
Unless you want to gut the farm for Berrios, which I totally disagree with.
4.39 ERA/5.67 xERA/4.66 FIP/5.20 xFIP
Horrible numbers and his FIP is worse than ERA so has nothing to do with current defense.
I'm not debating that his performance is great, I understand its sub-par and that's why the return isn't a top level prospect.
so if not a Davies type you want for depth what's your proposed solution?
Either way I'm glad they have Sandy around. I feel pretty confident there won't be any fleecing a la BVW. Also pretty confident they will add at least 1 P and 1 hitter today which should make a solid team even better. Then just need to hope they get healthy.
Give me a reliever, Bryant, and a depth SP and I’m more than good.
Oh and fuck the Dodgers.
You obviously HAVE to clear a spot for Carrasco.
Give me a reliever, Bryant, and a depth SP and I’m more than good.
Oh and fuck the Dodgers.
Jamie - I agree with you here in terms of need... Would you trade a better prospect like a Mauricio or Baty to the Cubs if you can get Bryant, Kimbrel and Davies? 3 Rentals for 1 prospect?
You obviously HAVE to clear a spot for Carrasco.
I agree, which is why I don't think pitching is as big a need as some. If you want to argue that deGrom hasn't been able to stay healthy, my counter would be that we're not going far w/o JdG no matter who we trade for (short of Scherzer, maybe).
I'm intrigued by the Baez idea, he'd really help with the bat and glove, and his presence could give Lindor a big lift. My main concern is that it would move McNeil to 3B, and that scares me.
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Rentals only please.
Give me a reliever, Bryant, and a depth SP and I’m more than good.
Oh and fuck the Dodgers.
Jamie - I agree with you here in terms of need... Would you trade a better prospect like a Mauricio or Baty to the Cubs if you can get Bryant, Kimbrel and Davies? 3 Rentals for 1 prospect?
Kimbrel isn’t a rental. He’s actually got a very affordable vesting option for next year. I like Kimbrel and thinks he helps our bottom line more than any other player BUT, because of that extra year of control he’s going to require something that’s going to sting like a Mauricio.
I go back and forth but I think most of these rentals can be had for less than a top 6-7 prospect. I’d probably try to stick to that route if I could.
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Rentals only please.
Give me a reliever, Bryant, and a depth SP and I’m more than good.
Oh and fuck the Dodgers.
Jamie - I agree with you here in terms of need... Would you trade a better prospect like a Mauricio or Baty to the Cubs if you can get Bryant, Kimbrel and Davies? 3 Rentals for 1 prospect?
NOPE, you guys forget to add 3 people to the roster like that ...who gets sent down/DFA'd
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Hes back. He’s literally our starting pitcher tonight and is coming off a non arm injury. He’ll be capped at 60-ish pitches but after tonight he should be close to full go.
You obviously HAVE to clear a spot for Carrasco.
I agree, which is why I don't think pitching is as big a need as some. If you want to argue that deGrom hasn't been able to stay healthy, my counter would be that we're not going far w/o JdG no matter who we trade for (short of Scherzer, maybe).
I'm intrigued by the Baez idea, he'd really help with the bat and glove, and his presence could give Lindor a big lift. My main concern is that it would move McNeil to 3B, and that scares me.
I like Bryant more than Baez but yeah… if you added Baez you start him at SS and figure it out later..
I realize some of our Pitchers are coming back....but who knows what to expect from Cookie ? Is Thor going to ever throw a pitch this year ?? As a Starter or out of the Pen ?? Walker has become sketchy of late.
Not really interested in Bryant, doesn't he have a bad elbow ?? not what you want in a third-baseman. Baez might be of interest, but he's eventually going to move McNeil to 3B, not his ideal position.
Certain Minor Leaguers are off the table, as far as I'm concerned. Ronny Mo might be tradeable and he is at peak value right now. But Vientos, Baty, PCA, Palmer and any of the top tier Pitching prospects are non-tradeable in my opinion.
Uncle Steve can kick in 'Cash Considerations' rather than trading top tier prospects.
LFGM !!
The DL and skipping a few starts. Just has not pitched much two previous years
Another possible factor is Josh Walker. 8 innings of one hit ball for Syracuse last night. He and Megill both coming out of nowhere.
will be interesting to see who blinks ahead of the deadline.
The guy also has a ring. Could be a steadying influence down the stretch
@TheAthletic
. Could trade for one of them individually or both together. No indication a deal is close.
I was being a little hyperbolic but my point of trading for a SP who isn't very good for the sake of trading for a SP doesn't do much here. A pitcher who might put up a 5 ERA does nothing for us. Obviously Davies has had a much better career than Eickhoff.
@mikemayer22
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Sources: Mets have had conversations with the Twins about outfielder Byron Buxton.
@mikemayer22
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Sources: Mets have had conversations with the Twins about outfielder Byron Buxton.
well that would be interesting.
only has 1 year of control after this and the injuries who knows.
Superficially it seems to me like an extra cost controlled year is significantly overvalued right now. But I guess the idea is that you're paying for 1.5 years of production plus the opportunity cost of the QO match 1st round pick? Whereas with a rental you can't do extend a QO. Guess it makes more sense considering that.
Unless of course I see something different.
deGrom is too much of a wild card right now and if he's not right and part of the rotation I'm not a buyer.
@SportsCenter
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The White Sox are finalizing a deal to acquire closer Craig Kimbrel from the Cubs, sources tell @JeffPassan
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The White Sox paid a massive price for Craig Kimbrel: second baseman Nick Madrigal and reliever Codi Heuer, sources tell ESPN.
When I said at the top of the show that Cubs had the chance to remake themselves for the next five years in the next two hours, this is what I meant.
The White Sox paid a massive price for Craig Kimbrel: second baseman Nick Madrigal and reliever Codi Heuer, sources tell ESPN.
When I said at the top of the show that Cubs had the chance to remake themselves for the next five years in the next two hours, this is what I meant.
Wow. Great haul for the Cubs. In a league gone strikeout-mad, Madrigal's k rate is SEXY.
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1
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#Mets making movement toward Javy Baez. Maybe a pitcher in the deal too
would love to grab Baez.
Mets have talked to the Twins about another right-handed starter, Kenta Maeda.
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@martinonyc
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Source: Mets have a deal for Baez
@Ken_Rosenthal
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Mets are talking about adding a pitcher from Cubs in addition to Javier Báez, either Zach Davies or Trevor Williams, source tells @TheAthletic
. Deal is not close at this moment.