As I do 20 or so times a year, I went to the Rochester Red Wings baseball game tonight. We’re the AAA team for the Nats. Bottom of the first, the third baseman for the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs has a seizure/stroke and falls to the ground. Silence at the stadium. An ambulance came out but they didn’t move him for 20 minutes or so. It was the first game of a double header. Needless to say, everything was cancelled.
A very surreal night at Frontier Field. This is a 23 year old professional athlete in prime condition and he has a stroke. It was hard to see.
I laugh (and cry) when I see articles about anti-vaxxers who lose family members to covid and then try to warn covid deniers of the danger of covid and their regret at not having gotten vaccinated. They heard the stories a hundred times already and it didn't change their opinion but now they think others just like them will listen. They won't. Not til they experience the horror of watching a love one suffer and possibly die on a ventilator.
And to those who say "survival of the fittest", would you refuse treatment for covid if infected and gasping for air? How about curable cancers? Dental infection? Appendicitis? Just a stupid and hypocritical argument.
Not a coincidence that vaccination rates directly correlate with education level.
I laugh (and cry) when I see articles about anti-vaxxers who lose family members to covid and then try to warn covid deniers of the danger of covid and their regret at not having gotten vaccinated. They heard the stories a hundred times already and it didn't change their opinion but now they think others just like them will listen. They won't. Not til they experience the horror of watching a love one suffer and possibly die on a ventilator.
And to those who say "survival of the fittest", would you refuse treatment for covid if infected and gasping for air? How about curable cancers? Dental infection? Appendicitis? Just a stupid and hypocritical argument.
Not a coincidence that vaccination rates directly correlate with education level.
And yet your anger seems to be directed at the individuals here. There are systemic issues that run much deeper than this. Public education in many states has become a complete afterthought, and these are the results. Of course, the power institutions in these places design it this way, but it's sad nonetheless. I currently live in one of these states, and it's sad how dumb the average person here is that went to public school. It isn't even really socieconomic either, the transplants, even the ones that grew up in poor neighborhoods, seem to be able to critically think better.
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I laugh (and cry) when I see articles about anti-vaxxers who lose family members to covid and then try to warn covid deniers of the danger of covid and their regret at not having gotten vaccinated. They heard the stories a hundred times already and it didn't change their opinion but now they think others just like them will listen. They won't. Not til they experience the horror of watching a love one suffer and possibly die on a ventilator.
And to those who say "survival of the fittest", would you refuse treatment for covid if infected and gasping for air? How about curable cancers? Dental infection? Appendicitis? Just a stupid and hypocritical argument.
Not a coincidence that vaccination rates directly correlate with education level.
The notion that people who aren’t pro-vax (I’m not going to say anti-vax because not all who choose not to vaccinate are anti-vax) are a bunch of hillbilly’s playing banjos in the Appalachia’s is silly. There are highly educated people and wealthy people for that matter that choose not to vaccinate their children in particular.
I read a case study a few years ago that I found very interesting. If I can find it again I will share the link. It focused on the Amish community and how you don’t see all of these allergies (eg. Nuts, dairy, soy, gluten, etc.) among their community and you also don’t see the rise of autism as you see in mainstream society. The article pointed out a couple of interesting things. 1.) the Amish eat natural farm fresh foods. No artificial colors, preservatives, GMO’s, antibiotics in the meat.. 2.) No Round-Up used on their agriculture. 3.) Nearly all Amish are not vaccinated.
The end of the case study essentially concluded that something is contributing to the rise in allergies and autism in mainstream society that is not present in Amish culture. Is it certain vaccines? Is it the artificial crap used in our food? Is it the use of toxins to kill weeds and boost agricultural output?
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The end of the case study essentially concluded that something is contributing to the rise in allergies and autism in mainstream society that is not present in Amish culture. Is it certain vaccines? Is it the artificial crap used in our food? Is it the use of toxins to kill weeds and boost agricultural output?
Or it's the fact that the Amish probably don't wait to have kids like modern-day Americans do (which is an actual PROVEN risk factor) but keep fucking that chicken. Environmental factors are certainly affecting hormonal issues in our children, but not autism. It's two fold - better diagnosis and age-related decline in sperm and eggs. This is all proven.
I didn’t say that actually, it was a question raised in the article. I personally lean toward the crap in our food used to extend shelf life and save money. Not the only reason for the rise in autism, but I’m sure it’s not helping.
I’m not saying I agree with that notion necessarily, but a catalyst vs. causing autism are two completely different things.
I’m not saying I agree with that notion necessarily, but a catalyst vs. causing autism are two completely different things.
Kind of like how weed can be the catalyst for schizophrenia? Yeah, not buying that at all. It isn't like they are using psychoactive compounds in vaccines anymore. It's purely correlational because autism really isn't noticeable until a certain age.
The end of the case study essentially concluded that something is contributing to the rise in allergies and autism in mainstream society that is not present in Amish culture. Is it certain vaccines? Is it the artificial crap used in our food? Is it the use of toxins to kill weeds and boost agricultural output?
Yes it is called heredity.
I’m not saying I agree with that notion necessarily, but a catalyst vs. causing autism are two completely different things.
I think the vaccine/autism thing was dispelled a long while back. Another Jenny McCarthy rant disproven.
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The end of the case study essentially concluded that something is contributing to the rise in allergies and autism in mainstream society that is not present in Amish culture. Is it certain vaccines? Is it the artificial crap used in our food? Is it the use of toxins to kill weeds and boost agricultural output?
Yes it is called heredity.
It's age, but the heredity factor is a glaring issue at using certain groups for make overarching conclusions.
You're trash.
I believe this is more than just a public education issue; its being fostered for political gain.
The vast majority of politicians are not stupid. They know that Covid is real and that the vaccine's risk/benefit falls greatly on side of benefit. They know that the control of covid and the return to normal life with a recovering economy would be of great benefit to the party in power. Letting Covid get out of control with the subsequent need for new restrictions and potential shut downs would be a powerful political weapon. The success or failure of covid control and return to normal life will likely determine the outcome of the 2022 midterm elections.
I believe this is more than just a public education issue; its being fostered for political gain.
The vast majority of politicians are not stupid. They know that Covid is real and that the vaccine's risk/benefit falls greatly on side of benefit. They know that the control of covid and the return to normal life with a recovering economy would be of great benefit to the party in power. Letting Covid get out of control with the subsequent need for new restrictions and potential shut downs would be a powerful political weapon. The success or failure of covid control and return to normal life will likely determine the outcome of the 2022 midterm elections.
Yes it is an education issue. Because if people were better educated (and I'm not talking about college, if you can't critically think by then, you never are going to) theyd be able to see through the crap that is fosterd upon them.
I believe this is more than just a public education issue; its being fostered for political gain.
The vast majority of politicians are not stupid. They know that Covid is real and that the vaccine's risk/benefit falls greatly on side of benefit. They know that the control of covid and the return to normal life with a recovering economy would be of great benefit to the party in power. Letting Covid get out of control with the subsequent need for new restrictions and potential shut downs would be a powerful political weapon. The success or failure of covid control and return to normal life will likely determine the outcome of the 2022 midterm elections.
90% of Americans over 65 have been vaccinated. Seems like they are educated fine and recognize the risks based on the science. I gather it’s the same or close with people who have conditions that Covid attacks who are younger.
Out of curiosity what is being educated to you and what standard of achievement in education does one need to make the decision on the vaccine?
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I believe this is more than just a public education issue; its being fostered for political gain.
The vast majority of politicians are not stupid. They know that Covid is real and that the vaccine's risk/benefit falls greatly on side of benefit. They know that the control of covid and the return to normal life with a recovering economy would be of great benefit to the party in power. Letting Covid get out of control with the subsequent need for new restrictions and potential shut downs would be a powerful political weapon. The success or failure of covid control and return to normal life will likely determine the outcome of the 2022 midterm elections.
Yes it is an education issue. Because if people were better educated (and I'm not talking about college, if you can't critically think by then, you never are going to) theyd be able to see through the crap that is fosterd upon them.
We essentially agree. My only additional point is that anti-intellectualism is being encouraged and nurtured for political gain.
Yes it is an education issue. Because if people were better educated (and I'm not talking about college, if you can't critically think by then, you never are going to) theyd be able to see through the crap that is fosterd upon them.
We essentially agree. My only additional point is that anti-intellectualism is being encouraged and nurtured for political gain.
What's new in the last few years is both sides are guilty of it now, when that used to be the domain of a very specific set of politicians. Anti-intellectualism is running rampant everywhere.
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is not my opinion; its a fact, no matter whether a small minority of educated people choose to refuse the vaccine
I believe this is more than just a public education issue; its being fostered for political gain.
The vast majority of politicians are not stupid. They know that Covid is real and that the vaccine's risk/benefit falls greatly on side of benefit. They know that the control of covid and the return to normal life with a recovering economy would be of great benefit to the party in power. Letting Covid get out of control with the subsequent need for new restrictions and potential shut downs would be a powerful political weapon. The success or failure of covid control and return to normal life will likely determine the outcome of the 2022 midterm elections.
90% of Americans over 65 have been vaccinated. Seems like they are educated fine and recognize the risks based on the science. I gather it’s the same or close with people who have conditions that Covid attacks who are younger.
Out of curiosity what is being educated to you and what standard of achievement in education does one need to make the decision on the vaccine?
Senior citizens as a group that's had a long time to think about their mortality and have had urging of Drs to get flu vaccines since they've hit that spot. Even the subset of people that are anti COVID vaccine now, I'd imagine would find themselves pro-flu vaccine when they are older (which is much less lethal than COVID even adjusted for age).
In terms of the COVID vaccine in particular I disagree with this argument. Yes, you have your farmers in rural Nebraska that won’t get the vaccine. But there are a lot of people living in and just outside of major metropolitan areas that have concerns over this vaccine in particular.
One of the things about this vaccine that really bothers me is that it became this “arms race” between rival big pharma companies to develop the best one that would get the most government dollars. What would have been ethical and perhaps made people less skeptical about getting the vaccine is if these greedy bastards would have said this is a public emergency, let’s get our top scientists together from all of these companies to create the best vaccine possible, have coordinated testing, and split the profits in the end.
When I see these speculations from investors on which company will come up with the best booster post initial inoculation, etc. it’s kind of disturbing.
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It's not that people weren't taught in school so they don't have the information. Or even that they're stupid per se. I think there are confounding variables at play. I think that people that live in less educated states tend to live in less dense areas and culturally and politically value independence. Listening to authorities who are trying to force them to do something somewhat invasive is a threat to that independence.
In terms of the COVID vaccine in particular I disagree with this argument. Yes, you have your farmers in rural Nebraska that won’t get the vaccine. But there are a lot of people living in and just outside of major metropolitan areas that have concerns over this vaccine in particular.
One of the things about this vaccine that really bothers me is that it became this “arms race” between rival big pharma companies to develop the best one that would get the most government dollars. What would have been ethical and perhaps made people less skeptical about getting the vaccine is if these greedy bastards would have said this is a public emergency, let’s get our top scientists together from all of these companies to create the best vaccine possible, have coordinated testing, and split the profits in the end.
When I see these speculations from investors on which company will come up with the best booster post initial inoculation, etc. it’s kind of disturbing.
I do agree when I was reading about shares of these companies going down when there was bad vaccine news it made me uncomfortable even though I'm very pro-capitalism.
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It's not that people weren't taught in school so they don't have the information. Or even that they're stupid per se. I think there are confounding variables at play. I think that people that live in less educated states tend to live in less dense areas and culturally and politically value independence. Listening to authorities who are trying to force them to do something somewhat invasive is a threat to that independence.
In terms of the COVID vaccine in particular I disagree with this argument. Yes, you have your farmers in rural Nebraska that won’t get the vaccine. But there are a lot of people living in and just outside of major metropolitan areas that have concerns over this vaccine in particular.
One of the things about this vaccine that really bothers me is that it became this “arms race” between rival big pharma companies to develop the best one that would get the most government dollars. What would have been ethical and perhaps made people less skeptical about getting the vaccine is if these greedy bastards would have said this is a public emergency, let’s get our top scientists together from all of these companies to create the best vaccine possible, have coordinated testing, and split the profits in the end.
When I see these speculations from investors on which company will come up with the best booster post initial inoculation, etc. it’s kind of disturbing.
That people are investing in a successful vaccine is disturbing??? The people developing these medicines need to be paid. People do not work for free.
People invest in GM because they expect it to be successful.
People invest in Amazon because it has a great model.
People invest in Apple because it has great products.
Why wouldn't people invest in companies that develop medicines - if they don't exist people die. If the companies are not successful they go bankrupt and close down.
You do realize that flu shots must be taken each year. Immunities on viruses do not last long. Covid is a virus and most likely will need booster shots. I'm pretty certain that one of these companies, maybe more than one, will develop a successful booster, which is a very good thing.
You do realize that competition is the best form of development. In WW2 about a dozen companies developed aircraft that had different characteristics that lead to different uses and each was needed for a specific use or alternate uses.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/us-vaccine-demographics.html
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It's not that people weren't taught in school so they don't have the information. Or even that they're stupid per se. I think there are confounding variables at play. I think that people that live in less educated states tend to live in less dense areas and culturally and politically value independence. Listening to authorities who are trying to force them to do something somewhat invasive is a threat to that independence.
In terms of the COVID vaccine in particular I disagree with this argument. Yes, you have your farmers in rural Nebraska that won’t get the vaccine. But there are a lot of people living in and just outside of major metropolitan areas that have concerns over this vaccine in particular.
One of the things about this vaccine that really bothers me is that it became this “arms race” between rival big pharma companies to develop the best one that would get the most government dollars. What would have been ethical and perhaps made people less skeptical about getting the vaccine is if these greedy bastards would have said this is a public emergency, let’s get our top scientists together from all of these companies to create the best vaccine possible, have coordinated testing, and split the profits in the end.
When I see these speculations from investors on which company will come up with the best booster post initial inoculation, etc. it’s kind of disturbing.
That people are investing in a successful vaccine is disturbing??? The people developing these medicines need to be paid. People do not work for free.
People invest in GM because they expect it to be successful.
People invest in Amazon because it has a great model.
People invest in Apple because it has great products.
Why wouldn't people invest in companies that develop medicines - if they don't exist people die. If the companies are not successful they go bankrupt and close down.
You do realize that flu shots must be taken each year. Immunities on viruses do not last long. Covid is a virus and most likely will need booster shots. I'm pretty certain that one of these companies, maybe more than one, will develop a successful booster, which is a very good thing.
You do realize that competition is the best form of development. In WW2 about a dozen companies developed aircraft that had different characteristics that lead to different uses and each was needed for a specific use or alternate uses.
I'm vaxxed and in favor of it. But yeah it made feel a bit uncomfortable because that could create wrong incentives. It's not a big deal, I'm still pro-vax.
My sister is now having massive health issues after getting the “vaccine”. Told nothing to do with “vaccine”.
2 perfectly healthy people now out of nowhere having major health issues and neither one was reported or even investigated as “vaccine” related.
Again…. Why is anyone pointing to an issue instantly silenced and canceled.
Why are hundreds of doctors and nurses losing their jobs because they won’t take the “vaccine”
Why are people calling an experimental mRNA therapy a “vaccine”.
Why is anyone who is nervous about taking and experimental mRNA vaccine instantly called anti vaccine and ridiculed?
Why has the federal government granted these companies immunity from lawsuits?
Wake up
If you think that's bad, you should see the numbers of people who die after NOT getting the vaccine.
But by all means, yes, "wake up."
That post was complete & utter horseshit.
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come on man, im sure anyone mad at people not getting vaccines recognize these people exist. we are mad at the ones who think they are getting a chip implanted or all the other nutjob conspiracies out there. Nobody would be mad either with people not getting a shot if they just put the damn mask on and stop whining about their freedumbs being taken away
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come on man, im sure anyone mad at people not getting vaccines recognize these people exist. we are mad at the ones who think they are getting a chip implanted or all the other nutjob conspiracies out there. Nobody would be mad either with people not getting a shot if they just put the damn mask on and stop whining about their freedumbs being taken away
Really, because last time I checked there are pushes to mandate vaccines for anyone who wants to work, go to a restaurant, etc. And the whole, “ just get a medical waiver” thing is complete bullshit. Those are almost impossible to get nowadays which I have explained on multiple other threads on here concerning my son. This is why medical choice is necessary. That’s my point with this post. It’s not as cut and dry as some think.
Not exactly the type of person being preached at...do you think?
The preaching is for the masses crying personal freedom and/or that I don't have enough information....
As far as I know corporations mandating the vaccine have both medical and religious exceptions. Besides as sad as this one case is, it's one case of one guy. Policy should be made with a lot more people than that in mind.
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shot but can’t due to complications with Guillen Barre syndrome. No medical waiver for him, has to leave the band. Not everyone in this situation are rich rock stars. This is a worthwhile read for those preaching death to all who don’t get the vaccine. Link - ( New Window )
As far as I know corporations mandating the vaccine have both medical and religious exceptions. Besides as sad as this one case is, it's one case of one guy. Policy should be made with a lot more people than that in mind.
Read my post above about medical waivers. They are nearly non existent now due to doctors fearing the loss of their medical license. That means many who should have them are screwed in a mandate scenario which is fast approaching.
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shot but can’t due to complications with Guillen Barre syndrome. No medical waiver for him, has to leave the band. Not everyone in this situation are rich rock stars. This is a worthwhile read for those preaching death to all who don’t get the vaccine. Link - ( New Window )
As far as I know corporations mandating the vaccine have both medical and religious exceptions. Besides as sad as this one case is, it's one case of one guy. Policy should be made with a lot more people than that in mind.
Read my post above about medical waivers. They are nearly non existent now due to doctors fearing the loss of their medical license. That means many who should have them are screwed in a mandate scenario which is fast approaching.
I'll start off by saying I'm philosophically opposed to vaccine mandates. That said, that's a problem with the medical waivers not vaccine mandates overall.
You are obviously butthurt by my comments. My comments were meant for those who can get the vaccine but choose not to out of selfishness or are too stupid and willfully ignorant and believe shit like the vaccines are gene therapy or bill gates is doing some 5g tracking. Part of my anger with these groups are because of people who can't like the person mentioned in your link. That might be too nuanced for you however. You are being very disingenuous to equate the two but I guess you're not discussing from a factual or honest position to begin with considering that you are bringing up autism regarding vaccines.
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shot but can’t due to complications with Guillen Barre syndrome. No medical waiver for him, has to leave the band. Not everyone in this situation are rich rock stars. This is a worthwhile read for those preaching death to all who don’t get the vaccine. Link - ( New Window )
As far as I know corporations mandating the vaccine have both medical and religious exceptions. Besides as sad as this one case is, it's one case of one guy. Policy should be made with a lot more people than that in mind.
Read my post above about medical waivers. They are nearly non existent now due to doctors fearing the loss of their medical license. That means many who should have them are screwed in a mandate scenario which is fast approaching.
I'll start off by saying I'm philosophically opposed to vaccine mandates. That said, that's a problem with the medical waivers not vaccine mandates overall.
No kidding, but unfortunately they go hand in hand at the end of the day.
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I sure hope he's out saving the rest of his dwindling group of clients and friends
That post was complete & utter horseshit.
It illustrates perfectly why people get frustrated over this. That false claim of his could easily sway someone to put themselves and others at risk by not getting the Vax
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I sure hope he's out saving the rest of his dwindling group of clients and friends
That post was complete & utter horseshit.
It illustrates perfectly why people get frustrated over this. That false claim of his could easily sway someone to put themselves and others at risk by not getting the Vax
Your comment about him off saving his dwindling friends and clients was hilarious montanagiant.
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You are obviously butthurt by my comments. My comments were meant for those who can get the vaccine but choose not to out of selfishness or are too stupid and willfully ignorant and believe shit like the vaccines are gene therapy or bill gates is doing some 5g tracking. Part of my anger with these groups are because of people who can't like the person mentioned in your link. That might be too nuanced for you however. You are being very disingenuous to equate the two but I guess you're not discussing from a factual or honest position to begin with considering that you are bringing up autism regarding vaccines.
Look chuckles, I guarantee any comment I have made on this thread has nothing to do with anything you have said, I don’t remember one post you have ever made in the apparent 20 years you have been registered on here based on your profile. You know nothing about autism so shut your mouth. And if you could read you would see that I was posting multiple theories on the rise in autism tied to a specific case study related to the Amish community, not specifically related to vaccines.
I have a son with autism by the way. I watched a child go from neurotypical (appropriate eye contact, engagement, tummy time, babbling/speech) to practically catatonic overnight after a vaccine. That’s not a coincidence. High pitch screaming, inconsolable, high fever, ER visit. The next day he was never the same. We’re 250k into treatments and he’s making huge progress, and it’s sure as hell not through mainstream medicine. You believe what you want to believe. I’m not anti-vax, but I have all of my vaccines. But I am pro medical choice because I know what’s it’s like to see someone injured by a vaccine.
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shot but can’t due to complications with Guillen Barre syndrome. No medical waiver for him, has to leave the band. Not everyone in this situation are rich rock stars. This is a worthwhile read for those preaching death to all who don’t get the vaccine. Link - ( New Window )
You are obviously butthurt by my comments. My comments were meant for those who can get the vaccine but choose not to out of selfishness or are too stupid and willfully ignorant and believe shit like the vaccines are gene therapy or bill gates is doing some 5g tracking. Part of my anger with these groups are because of people who can't like the person mentioned in your link. That might be too nuanced for you however. You are being very disingenuous to equate the two but I guess you're not discussing from a factual or honest position to begin with considering that you are bringing up autism regarding vaccines.
Look chuckles, I guarantee any comment I have made on this thread has nothing to do with anything you have said, I don’t remember one post you have ever made in the apparent 20 years you have been registered on here based on your profile. You know nothing about autism so shut your mouth. And if you could read you would see that I was posting multiple theories on the rise in autism tied to a specific case study related to the Amish community, not specifically related to vaccines.
I have a son with autism by the way. I watched a child go from neurotypical (appropriate eye contact, engagement, tummy time, babbling/speech) to practically catatonic overnight after a vaccine. That’s not a coincidence. High pitch screaming, inconsolable, high fever, ER visit. The next day he was never the same. We’re 250k into treatments and he’s making huge progress, and it’s sure as hell not through mainstream medicine. You believe what you want to believe. I’m not anti-vax, but I have all of my vaccines. But I am pro medical choice because I know what’s it’s like to see someone injured by a vaccine.
First, I'm glad your son is doing better and I'm glad you are doing the best you can by him. I too spent a huge sum of money (money doesn't matter in that regard) bringing my daughter into the world and keeping her alive so I have a big issue about people who don't vaccinate when they can. The guy purposely spreading false information set me off. You did directly mention my comment above but it's not worth arguing about vaccinations since you have a belief system I won't change. Just be careful of confirmation bias, ok?
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shot but can’t due to complications with Guillen Barre syndrome. No medical waiver for him, has to leave the band. Not everyone in this situation are rich rock stars. This is a worthwhile read for those preaching death to all who don’t get the vaccine. Link - ( New Window )
You are obviously butthurt by my comments. My comments were meant for those who can get the vaccine but choose not to out of selfishness or are too stupid and willfully ignorant and believe shit like the vaccines are gene therapy or bill gates is doing some 5g tracking. Part of my anger with these groups are because of people who can't like the person mentioned in your link. That might be too nuanced for you however. You are being very disingenuous to equate the two but I guess you're not discussing from a factual or honest position to begin with considering that you are bringing up autism regarding vaccines.
Look chuckles, I guarantee any comment I have made on this thread has nothing to do with anything you have said, I don’t remember one post you have ever made in the apparent 20 years you have been registered on here based on your profile. You know nothing about autism so shut your mouth. And if you could read you would see that I was posting multiple theories on the rise in autism tied to a specific case study related to the Amish community, not specifically related to vaccines.
I have a son with autism by the way. I watched a child go from neurotypical (appropriate eye contact, engagement, tummy time, babbling/speech) to practically catatonic overnight after a vaccine. That’s not a coincidence. High pitch screaming, inconsolable, high fever, ER visit. The next day he was never the same. We’re 250k into treatments and he’s making huge progress, and it’s sure as hell not through mainstream medicine. You believe what you want to believe. I’m not anti-vax, but I have all of my vaccines. But I am pro medical choice because I know what’s it’s like to see someone injured by a vaccine.
First, I'm glad your son is doing better and I'm glad you are doing the best you can by him. I too spent a huge sum of money (money doesn't matter in that regard) bringing my daughter into the world and keeping her alive so I have a big issue about people who don't vaccinate when they can. The guy purposely spreading false information set me off. You did directly mention my comment above but it's not worth arguing about vaccinations since you have a belief system I won't change. Just be careful of confirmation bias, ok?
All done with this topic. Best to you and yours and go Giants this season. I try not to talk about this stuff on here but sometimes it hits a little close to home.
So let's stop with unproven assumptions regarding the Vaccine
34 people. That settles it. LMFAO
(I’m neither pro or anti vaccine, I just think that shit right there is hilarious)
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And none have had a seizure, stroke, or "health issues". As a matter of fact, I don't know of anyone who has gotten the vax suffering from any health issues.
So let's stop with unproven assumptions regarding the Vaccine
34 people. That settles it. LMFAO
(I’m neither pro or anti vaccine, I just think that shit right there is hilarious)
You're taking the post out of context. This is the exact argument anti-vaxxers are making. The people that are pro-vaccine are on the side of the data.
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And none have had a seizure, stroke, or "health issues". As a matter of fact, I don't know of anyone who has gotten the vax suffering from any health issues.
So let's stop with unproven assumptions regarding the Vaccine
34 people. That settles it. LMFAO
(I’m neither pro or anti vaccine, I just think that shit right there is hilarious)
I have 14 people in my immediate family who have gotten it. I have 10 guys at 2 different job sites who had to get it to work at them. I have 3 couples that are close friends of ours that they and their kids have gotten them.
Stop being an ignorant fuckwit Spanky.
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And none have had a seizure, stroke, or "health issues". As a matter of fact, I don't know of anyone who has gotten the vax suffering from any health issues.
So let's stop with unproven assumptions regarding the Vaccine
34 people. That settles it. LMFAO
(I’m neither pro or anti vaccine, I just think that shit right there is hilarious)
You're taking the post out of context. This is the exact argument anti-vaxxers are making. The people that are pro-vaccine are on the side of the data.
Don't waste your time, the minute someone starts off with "I'm neither pro nor anti BUT...." you end dealing with someone full of shit. I respect those who actually take a stand for their preferred bias then absurd false claims of straddling the fence.
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In comment 15320599 BlueHurricane said:
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In comment 15318763 montanagiant said:
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And none have had a seizure, stroke, or "health issues". As a matter of fact, I don't know of anyone who has gotten the vax suffering from any health issues.
So let's stop with unproven assumptions regarding the Vaccine
34 people. That settles it. LMFAO
(I’m neither pro or anti vaccine, I just think that shit right there is hilarious)
You're taking the post out of context. This is the exact argument anti-vaxxers are making. The people that are pro-vaccine are on the side of the data.
Don't waste your time, the minute someone starts off with "I'm neither pro nor anti BUT...." you end dealing with someone full of shit. I respect those who actually take a stand for their preferred bias then absurd false claims of straddling the fence.
Don’t get caught caught up with BlueHurricane. Last year he claimed he knew 23 people who got Covid and was proud of it.