don't like Schroder and yet I think if you like him 1 year is a bad move. the issue with 1-year deals for guys joining "non-contenders". They presumably are joining said team to inflate their own numbers. Schroder in particular seems like a prime candidate to do this. I'd pass completely. It really shouldn't be "hard" to find an upgrade given how bad the Knicks PG play was. A few more lobs to Mitch and Sims thanks
Is not what fans want to see, but the Knicks have all this caproom and no stars out there to sign. There is no way knicks fans will be happy this offseason unless we get Kawhi which still kind of stinks because he is going to be out for the year.
It’s either overpay in 1 year deals to kick the money to next year or overpay multi year deals for the like of Duncan Robinson, Evan Fournier and Schroeder. If Knicks get Schroeder and Fournier as there 2 big catches, I just don’t see them improving much over last year. I know these guys are solid players I just don’t see the point in locking in guys with the possibility to be a 4 or 5 seed at best. These contracts won’t be tradeable. Portland isn’t going to want Fournier at 4 years $100 million or Schroeder at 4 years $80 million. The goal is to win a championship not just be a 4 or 5 seed. If the Players aren’t there to get you that then kick the money to next year because the fans will be angry either way.
There will be no writer applauding the Knicks no matter which if the 2 approaches they take, so they should take the smart approach of not locking in average players to bad contracts.
says teams believe Fournier will get "around" 15 per.
that would be awesome
To be clear, Mannix is saying what he's hearing is Fournier will get around 15 per and that the Knicks were one of the teams in on him, he wasn't hearing the Knicks were signing Fournier for that number.
RE: It doesn't seem like the Knicks think Lonzo is any good.
is solid, 29 for 2022, good shooter and a plus teammate. Kinda scared to see this offer if the Celtics passed considering they pretty openly wanted to keep him.
Supposedly they were clearing room under tax and then they were told he wants to go to Knicms, so they pivoted and traded for Richardson
My working assumption is he was definitely going back to Miami but if he shakes free because they need the room or something I would be in on him for sure. Would certainly prefer him to Schroeder.
My working assumption is he was definitely going back to Miami but if he shakes free because they need the room or something I would be in on him for sure. Would certainly prefer him to Schroeder.
Hollinger says close to zero chance he remains with Miami due to their cap situation.
Keeping Kendrick Nunn, on the other hand, seems hugely unlikely. The Heat will be hard-capped on any sign-and-trade and, in any event, would go deep in the tax if it re-signed him at his market value and made the moves above. He is effectively an unrestricted free agent at this point.
honestly go hard after Norm Powell just because it'll help force a Dame trade.
At least root for Norm to leave Portland.
Norm Powell is better then Fournier.
Agreed but given that we have all this room and you just don't here any buzz there you have to feel there just isn't interest from one if not both ends.
Is a steal.
He is a great fit for the Knicks especially as a catch and shoot off Randle kicks.
It's an affordable deal that they could move if necessary down the road.
in Schroder. The Knicks are the only team you hear about wrt his free agency. That tells me that his agent is trying to generate interest and the Knicks have both a gaping hole at PG and a lot of money so it makes sense.
Sounds like him to washington is dead and there really hasnt been any buzz anywhere else
Sounds like he's New Orleans new target with Lowry headed to Miami. Call me crazy but I think they'd be better served matching a Lonzo offer sheet assuming the money is close.
sign me the fuck up for Marcus Smart. Think he's wildly underrated.
Same. Would be great with Thibs. Not looking for a big Frank debate but when people projected him to be "at worst" a Smart-type... I think that was a disservice to Smart.
The free agents who are out there. That being said if the trades strike out we are going to look pretty bad. Yes still talking to Cleveland, yes to Indiana and Charlotte all which I said prior to shit coming out. But it takes two. (That’s free agents not names (KL, CP, or Lowery). Just have to wait and see I guess. Smart is a Thibs guy (but can’t shoot). Who knows at this point.
Fournier contract should also include a comparison to what the lower end wings end up getting (Burks, Bullock, McDermott, Reddick etc.). He fills a need, but the need at PG is greater and should be the primary focus.
The free agents who are out there. That being said if the trades strike out we are going to look pretty bad. Yes still talking to Cleveland, yes to Indiana and Charlotte all which I said prior to shit coming out. But it takes two. (That’s free agents not names (KL, CP, or Lowery). Just have to wait and see I guess. Smart is a Thibs guy (but can’t shoot). Who knows at this point.
Smart's rep as a non-shooter is sort of overstated at this point. Over his last 3 seasons 35% from 3, 81% from the line. Is he a great shooter? No but he's not an offensive zero.
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I feel like I’ve done at least 3 Marcus Smart trade pieces over the last year. Suffice it to say, I’m here for this. Don’t see any reason why it can’t be a Bullock sign and trade.
he is a VERY good role player. I dont think he is more then that, but there is nothing wrong with that. Great defender, doesnt help our offense issues, but would allow for a more offensive minded PG option maybe. Also is a FA after this year so wouldnt hurt our capspace next offseason. Would 100% rather him then guys like schroeder, fournier, dinwiddie, etc.
the Knicks still need a legit point guard. Smart is a good rotation guy but more of a two. Knicks should not sign and trade Bullock unless they have a wing to replace him.
lol Smart not Banks. Sorry brain fart.
It’s either overpay in 1 year deals to kick the money to next year or overpay multi year deals for the like of Duncan Robinson, Evan Fournier and Schroeder. If Knicks get Schroeder and Fournier as there 2 big catches, I just don’t see them improving much over last year. I know these guys are solid players I just don’t see the point in locking in guys with the possibility to be a 4 or 5 seed at best. These contracts won’t be tradeable. Portland isn’t going to want Fournier at 4 years $100 million or Schroeder at 4 years $80 million. The goal is to win a championship not just be a 4 or 5 seed. If the Players aren’t there to get you that then kick the money to next year because the fans will be angry either way.
There will be no writer applauding the Knicks no matter which if the 2 approaches they take, so they should take the smart approach of not locking in average players to bad contracts.
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says Boston is shopping Banks.
lol Smart not Banks. Sorry brain fart.
Smart was part of the Knicks plan B with Turner if they struck out fwiw
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says teams believe Fournier will get "around" 15 per.
that would be awesome
To be clear, Mannix is saying what he's hearing is Fournier will get around 15 per and that the Knicks were one of the teams in on him, he wasn't hearing the Knicks were signing Fournier for that number.
if we sign him we still have a huge gaping hole at lead guard. He's not that type of player.
Supposedly they were clearing room under tax and then they were told he wants to go to Knicms, so they pivoted and traded for Richardson
In a heart beat. I just can't see the Celts trading him to us.
Defensively he will at least compete, is he locking down guys? no but this team desoeretly needs offense
At least root for Norm to leave Portland.
Norm Powell is better then Fournier.
I don't think he's very good. He's certainly not a PG.
I'm interested in Nunn. Haven't heard a peep about the Knicks interest though since Begley mentioned him a ways back.
Hollinger says close to zero chance he remains with Miami due to their cap situation.
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honestly go hard after Norm Powell just because it'll help force a Dame trade.
At least root for Norm to leave Portland.
Norm Powell is better then Fournier.
Agreed but given that we have all this room and you just don't here any buzz there you have to feel there just isn't interest from one if not both ends.
He is a great fit for the Knicks especially as a catch and shoot off Randle kicks.
It's an affordable deal that they could move if necessary down the road.
Almost twice as many assists, and he's just better off the dribble than Norm which was a huge gap last year.
Well that's interesting. I'd prefer him to Schroder for sure if the money is even close to even.
Sounds like he's New Orleans new target with Lowry headed to Miami. Call me crazy but I think they'd be better served matching a Lonzo offer sheet assuming the money is close.
I agree with this. He made 17 last year. He's going to beat that.
Same. Would be great with Thibs. Not looking for a big Frank debate but when people projected him to be "at worst" a Smart-type... I think that was a disservice to Smart.
Smart's rep as a non-shooter is sort of overstated at this point. Over his last 3 seasons 35% from 3, 81% from the line. Is he a great shooter? No but he's not an offensive zero.
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I feel like I’ve done at least 3 Marcus Smart trade pieces over the last year. Suffice it to say, I’m here for this. Don’t see any reason why it can’t be a Bullock sign and trade.
DeRozan expected to chase the money vs. taking less to go home
All of that from Jake Fischer
with still enough pieces to go star chasing.
Hell no, just on principle.