They are preserving cap space. Even something that seems small like the draft picks helps. They go big game hunting. If they get a target then great. If not, then they go for short term deals to preserve their cap space for next offseason with maybe one 3 year deal around 20 mil per.
in Schroder. The Knicks are the only team you hear about wrt his free agency. That tells me that his agent is trying to generate interest and the Knicks have both a gaping hole at PG and a lot of money so it makes sense.
Same goes for Fournier, maybe even more so. We know Boston wants to resign him and they're having talks. What better way to get them to up their offer than them thinking the team with the most cap space is hot after his your services.
plan A or maybe even B would be Schroder. He thinks they're more interested in Lowry, Paul and Dinwiddie but if they strike out with the guys higher on their list maybe they turn there.
Also reaffirmed interest in DeRozan on a 1 or 2 year deal.
plan A or maybe even B would be Schroder. He thinks they're more interested in Lowry, Paul and Dinwiddie but if they strike out with the guys higher on their list maybe they turn there.
Also reaffirmed interest in DeRozan on a 1 or 2 year deal.
If the market has cooled on Dinwiddie I'd swoop in there for sure.
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Knicks may wind up with second tier choices but still hearing they will be in play for Chris Paul if he is not satisfied with Phoenix offer. While Lowry rumors abound with Miami - Knicks can unite him with DeRozan if that's a path he wants.
Amick said he couldn't find anybody who thought Paul was looking to leave the Suns as he's close with Williams and James Jones and wants to be on the West Coast.
"The other superstar free agent, Phoenix’s Chris Paul, is widely expected to return to the Suns after earlier chatter that the Pelicans would be in hot pursuit. That talk seems to have faded, likely because Phoenix stepped up with a more serious package. (I’ve heard the initial offer was rather underwhelming; the Suns were allowed to negotiate directly with Paul since he was under contract and has a player option.).
Paul declined his $44 million player option and instead would seem to be signing a new deal in Phoenix; nobody will be surprised if the total package nears or exceeds $100 million. Note also that the Suns are the one team that can pay Paul over four years rather than three, due to the league’s over-38 rule."
and if they lowball Paul things can change in a hurry. I'm sure the Knicks know where he's at though given how close Paul and Rose are. So I'm sure if it's not a remote possibility they won't waste time on it.
do not like the idea of giving Lowry/DeRozan both big contracts. DeRozan is 32 this week, Lowry 36 in March. One of them? Sure. But signing both would likely set them back. The young players would at very best be 4th and 5th options.
RE: Really no consensus on where Derozan is headed
do not like the idea of giving Lowry/DeRozan both big contracts. DeRozan is 32 this week, Lowry 36 in March. One of them? Sure. But signing both would likely set them back. The young players would at very best be 4th and 5th options.
Begley did say any moves for a vet pg or DeRozan the Knicks make in FA are likely to be 1 or 2 year deals.
to see why this would happen here vs. Miami. Lowry is supposedly headed to Miami because he and Butler are so close, why would he pick NY over that? Doesn't make sense.
"Jordan Schultz
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The #Heat really like the idea of reuniting Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan (MLE) according to league sources - with one saying a S-T (Dragic) is the preferable choice to acquire Lowry. Both Kyle and DeMar have maintained a great friendship since playing together w/the #Raptors."
do not like the idea of giving Lowry/DeRozan both big contracts. DeRozan is 32 this week, Lowry 36 in March. One of them? Sure. But signing both would likely set them back. The young players would at very best be 4th and 5th options.
Begley did say any moves for a vet pg or DeRozan the Knicks make in FA are likely to be 1 or 2 year deals.
Not really sure why DeRozan would want a 1-2 year deal at 32 years old to join a non-contender. "Everybody" will be willing to give him short years.
RE: Because in NY DeRozan wouldn't have to take the MLE
why would he take the MLE to play with a buddy while at the sometime, the buddy gets a max? Makes no sense. If they really want to play together, they can get their dough and play together on the Knicks.
Players exiting their prime looking to get paid (as is word with him) don't generally take 1 year deals with non-contenders.
I'm not sure what his max is but if the Knicks give him a 1 year deal at $30M or so, he's gonna make more money in that one year than Miami giving him a 3 year MLE. He's only 31 so he'd make a lot more money that way assuming he stays healthy going into next year's FA.
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Players exiting their prime looking to get paid (as is word with him) don't generally take 1 year deals with non-contenders.
I'm not sure what his max is but if the Knicks give him a 1 year deal at $30M or so, he's gonna make more money in that one year than Miami giving him a 3 year MLE. He's only 31 so he'd make a lot more money that way assuming he stays healthy going into next year's FA.
He's 32 this week. Lowry is expected to get 3 for 90 from Miami via sign and trade, how are the Knicks more appealing?
Players exiting their prime looking to get paid (as is word with him) don't generally take 1 year deals with non-contenders.
I'm not sure what his max is but if the Knicks give him a 1 year deal at $30M or so, he's gonna make more money in that one year than Miami giving him a 3 year MLE. He's only 31 so he'd make a lot more money that way assuming he stays healthy going into next year's FA.
He's 32 this week. Lowry is expected to get 3 for 90 from Miami via sign and trade, how are the Knicks more appealing?
I'm talking about DeRozan. He's not taking the MLE if he has other offers after his buddy gets 3x that. I'd bet a lot of money on that. Miami isn't LA or Brooklyn. It's not ring-chasing.
will play with the Knicks in summer league but will not exercise his buyout and will play 2022 in Spain per Berman. Presumably, he and the Knicks came to an agreement on what he should do.
will play with the Knicks in summer league but will not exercise his buyout and will play 2022 in Spain per Berman. Presumably, he and the Knicks came to an agreement on what he should do.
I think this is smart. A couple years at Barca probably helps everyone.
Fool me once. I understand he finally had one good year for the first time in 8 years, but this would be the 3rd time we're acquiring him and the first 2 times did not go well. Part of me gets the feeling if his name wasn't Tim Hardaway Jr. we wouldn't be talking about giving him another chance at $22M per year after just one good year of shooting.
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Hardaway Jr. rumored to be wanting to sign somewhere other than Dallas. Round 3? lol
Hell no, just on principle.
lol same feeling
my take as well.
Same goes for Fournier, maybe even more so. We know Boston wants to resign him and they're having talks. What better way to get them to up their offer than them thinking the team with the most cap space is hot after his your services.
Yeah that's just 30 mil out of the 53 we have. We'd have a ton of space left.
if you sent out nothing salary wise in a trade for smart you would still have 21 million in space so yes could bring back Rose
Also reaffirmed interest in DeRozan on a 1 or 2 year deal.
Yes, depending on what Fournier gets they'd have about $20-25M or so in remaining space.
Also reaffirmed interest in DeRozan on a 1 or 2 year deal.
If the market has cooled on Dinwiddie I'd swoop in there for sure.
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I think Mitch and RJ are super important. If they both take big steps forward this year, we could be a sleeper.
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Amick said he couldn't find anybody who thought Paul was looking to leave the Suns as he's close with Williams and James Jones and wants to be on the West Coast.
"The other superstar free agent, Phoenix’s Chris Paul, is widely expected to return to the Suns after earlier chatter that the Pelicans would be in hot pursuit. That talk seems to have faded, likely because Phoenix stepped up with a more serious package. (I’ve heard the initial offer was rather underwhelming; the Suns were allowed to negotiate directly with Paul since he was under contract and has a player option.).
Paul declined his $44 million player option and instead would seem to be signing a new deal in Phoenix; nobody will be surprised if the total package nears or exceeds $100 million. Note also that the Suns are the one team that can pay Paul over four years rather than three, due to the league’s over-38 rule."
Talk of Miami but they dont really have the money for both Lowry and Derozan..
Cant see Derozan in OKC
Talk of Miami but they dont really have the money for both Lowry and Derozan..
Cant see Derozan in OKC
Gun to my head, I think he goes to a team without cap space in a sign and trade.
Begley did say any moves for a vet pg or DeRozan the Knicks make in FA are likely to be 1 or 2 year deals.
"Jordan Schultz
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The #Heat really like the idea of reuniting Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan (MLE) according to league sources - with one saying a S-T (Dragic) is the preferable choice to acquire Lowry. Both Kyle and DeMar have maintained a great friendship since playing together w/the #Raptors."
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do not like the idea of giving Lowry/DeRozan both big contracts. DeRozan is 32 this week, Lowry 36 in March. One of them? Sure. But signing both would likely set them back. The young players would at very best be 4th and 5th options.
Begley did say any moves for a vet pg or DeRozan the Knicks make in FA are likely to be 1 or 2 year deals.
Not really sure why DeRozan would want a 1-2 year deal at 32 years old to join a non-contender. "Everybody" will be willing to give him short years.
What's in it for Lowry vs. Miami? The Knicks are not as good as Miami and the Knicks don't have his close friend Jimmy Butler.
Players exiting their prime looking to get paid (as is word with him) don't generally take 1 year deals with non-contenders.
He was our best player in the playoffs. He's the spark plug we need off the bench. Plus, he'll mentor all those young guards.
I never really considered this as a possibility. Think there's a chance.
Players exiting their prime looking to get paid (as is word with him) don't generally take 1 year deals with non-contenders.
I'm not sure what his max is but if the Knicks give him a 1 year deal at $30M or so, he's gonna make more money in that one year than Miami giving him a 3 year MLE. He's only 31 so he'd make a lot more money that way assuming he stays healthy going into next year's FA.
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Players exiting their prime looking to get paid (as is word with him) don't generally take 1 year deals with non-contenders.
I'm not sure what his max is but if the Knicks give him a 1 year deal at $30M or so, he's gonna make more money in that one year than Miami giving him a 3 year MLE. He's only 31 so he'd make a lot more money that way assuming he stays healthy going into next year's FA.
He's 32 this week. Lowry is expected to get 3 for 90 from Miami via sign and trade, how are the Knicks more appealing?
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Players exiting their prime looking to get paid (as is word with him) don't generally take 1 year deals with non-contenders.
I'm not sure what his max is but if the Knicks give him a 1 year deal at $30M or so, he's gonna make more money in that one year than Miami giving him a 3 year MLE. He's only 31 so he'd make a lot more money that way assuming he stays healthy going into next year's FA.
He's 32 this week. Lowry is expected to get 3 for 90 from Miami via sign and trade, how are the Knicks more appealing?
I'm talking about DeRozan. He's not taking the MLE if he has other offers after his buddy gets 3x that. I'd bet a lot of money on that. Miami isn't LA or Brooklyn. It's not ring-chasing.
I think this is smart. A couple years at Barca probably helps everyone.
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Former Florida State standout M.J. Walker will sign an Exhibit 10 contract with the #Knicks, per source.
Hope it's a 1+1 player option but that's probably wishful thinking.