god only 2 hours left. I've been refreshing twitter all day and it's mostly just blue balls.
Yup and my mother in law is staying at our house tonight, means i can sneak downstairs and out Knicks fan tv on the ipad, olympics on tv and refresh twitter on my phonr all night lol
Are these Noel and Burks rumors true? Are we basically going to have the same team as last year plus Fournier? What’s the point of locking these guys in for 3 years? The team isn’t going to be even close to contending for a championship for 4 or 5 years if they are locking in these guys on 3 year deals.
saying ajr is wrong but the way Fischer phrased it, it's going to be pretty weird/bad look if he's wrong (Fischer that is)
Doesn't sound like he's implying it's a rumor vs. news.
"Alec Burks is also expected to re-sign with the Knicks on a three-year agreement worth roughly $30 million. Nerlens Noel seems likely to return to Madison Square Garden on a deal worth slightly more than $10 million annually. "
Are these Noel and Burks rumors true? Are we basically going to have the same team as last year plus Fournier? What’s the point of locking these guys in for 3 years? The team isn’t going to be even close to contending for a championship for 4 or 5 years if they are locking in these guys on 3 year deals.
As far as I know there’s no shot either would be back on longer than a one year deal at that price. Would go against the whole plan of preserving cap space unless there’s a definite upgrade. I could be wrong.
Then these would be awful signings for a team that is looking to improve to be come a contender over the next few years. You don’t eat up cap space on these guys for more than 1 year. This is the issue with thibs, he thinks he can win a championship with average talent, it doesn’t work. I really hope Fischer is wrong or every year after the first is non guranteed
I refused to believe that Phil would give Joakim Noah all of that money.
Oh man, when those rumblings started I figured one-year deal - vet mentor for KP and Hernangomez or something. But no, four fully guaranteed years that are still hurting us.
Im 100% on board with bringing burks back at that price. Im less interested in Noel. I mean he was solid, but i feel like you can find guys like Noel (and burks and bullock) toward the end of FA. Especially when we will be the team still able to offer guys like 8 mill instead of 3 mill.
The knicks should hold all the cards with Fournier, whats his other options? LIke who is giving him 4/72. And if he walks, so be it. Kinda like Hayward last year.
Im 100% on board with bringing burks back at that price. Im less interested in Noel. I mean he was solid, but i feel like you can find guys like Noel (and burks and bullock) toward the end of FA. Especially when we will be the team still able to offer guys like 8 mill instead of 3 mill.
The knicks should hold all the cards with Fournier, whats his other options? LIke who is giving him 4/72. And if he walks, so be it. Kinda like Hayward last year.
Agree completely on Fournier. He's a good player, who I'd like them to sign but his upside is capped and a 4th year player option puts all of the risk on the Knicks. He's not an essential piece.
Marc Berman
@NYPost_Berman
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Hearing Reggie Bullock has drawn interest for 3-year, mid-level money. But Knicks would be willing to work out sign-and-trade if they can’t hammer out a deal. If Knicks ink Evan Fournier, Bullock would return to Knicks bench.
Marc Berman
@NYPost_Berman
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Hearing Reggie Bullock has drawn interest for 3-year, mid-level money. But Knicks would be willing to work out sign-and-trade if they can’t hammer out a deal. If Knicks ink Evan Fournier, Bullock would return to Knicks bench.
Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per
Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per
I don't understand why New Orleans would pay Dinwiddie what Ball is going to get. At least Ball can shoot from the outside unliked Dinwiddie.
if that is overpaid then the knicks might have an issues getting players signed, haha.
I dont know how i feel bout dinwiddie. I mean if you pair him with a shooter like fournier i guess im ok with it. But again thats gonna be prolly near 40 mill a year for dinwiddie and fournier, just not sure how i feel bout that, ha.
Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per
I don't understand why New Orleans would pay Dinwiddie what Ball is going to get. At least Ball can shoot from the outside unliked Dinwiddie.
Dinwiddie can run a team and go get a basket. Ball is more of a complimentary/off-the-ball player. Or at leat he is at this point in his career.
Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per
I don't understand why New Orleans would pay Dinwiddie what Ball is going to get. At least Ball can shoot from the outside unliked Dinwiddie.
Dinwiddie can run a team and go get a basket. Ball is more of a complimentary/off-the-ball player. Or at leat he is at this point in his career.
because he was playing with Lebron and then Zion and those guys were both given the keys as point forwards? I thought Lonzo was more of a natural ball-handling pass-first PG who could score back in college? I thought that was the whole point of why people think he could be a steal, because he's been playing roles on the Lakers and Pelicans that aren't best suited for his game. IDK. That's just what I heard. I didn't watch a ton of Lonzo in college.
Dinwiddie can run a team and go get a basket. Ball is more of a complimentary/off-the-ball player. Or at leat he is at this point in his career.
That's sort of my point. Zion should be running the offense. That's where he's at his most dangerous.
yeah but you still need guards who can put pressure on the opposing defense. And they have to replace Bledsoe's minutes (nobody played more than him for NO last year).
The Knicks decided to basically run it back with the same crew, except with Fournier over Bullock. They didn't upgrade the roster, they locked it in and gave everyone a raise.
Next year Mitch and Randle will need to be paid. So it's basically this team. I dunno. We locked into a middling level 4 seed team, if things go right.
I would have rather waited until the end of free agency, got a bunch of guys on one year deals and run a different team, but kept things fluid to have cap space next year. Or take a chance with one of these young players like Ball or whoever.
I mean, I like all most of these guys, but I liked them on the contracts they had last year. The only real growth is Fournier over Bullock, and hoping RJ takes another leap as a player.
The Knicks decided to basically run it back with the same crew, except with Fournier over Bullock. They didn't upgrade the roster, they locked it in and gave everyone a raise.
Next year Mitch and Randle will need to be paid. So it's basically this team. I dunno. We locked into a middling level 4 seed team, if things go right.
I would have rather waited until the end of free agency, got a bunch of guys on one year deals and run a different team, but kept things fluid to have cap space next year. Or take a chance with one of these young players like Ball or whoever.
I mean, I like all most of these guys, but I liked them on the contracts they had last year. The only real growth is Fournier over Bullock, and hoping RJ takes another leap as a player.
First off just by not bringing back Payton they improved the starting point guard spot..
They added an 18ppg player whonis effecient from 3..
you are assuming none of the young players get better and improve..
Also how are they locked in? they have all of their draft picks and then some, they have the ability to trade for a star when he becomes available..
Is the +1 a team or player option?
Someone please tel me Noel for $10 million plus is to someone other than the Knicks. If Noel gets $10 million what is Mitch going to get?
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On a possible 1+1 around $14 million
Is the +1 a team or player option?
Unsure
For the Knicks?
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On a possible 1+1 around $14 million
For the Knicks?
Yea, that’s their offer. Not done yet.
Yup and my mother in law is staying at our house tonight, means i can sneak downstairs and out Knicks fan tv on the ipad, olympics on tv and refresh twitter on my phonr all night lol
Doesn't sound like he's implying it's a rumor vs. news.
"Alec Burks is also expected to re-sign with the Knicks on a three-year agreement worth roughly $30 million. Nerlens Noel seems likely to return to Madison Square Garden on a deal worth slightly more than $10 million annually. "
Now if true and Noel gets 10 million, you resigning mitch 12 to 15?
Now if true and Noel gets 10 million, you resigning mitch 12 to 15?
Depends, is Noel a 1 year deal? If not, then I'd assume Mitch will be trade bait.
As far as I know there’s no shot either would be back on longer than a one year deal at that price. Would go against the whole plan of preserving cap space unless there’s a definite upgrade. I could be wrong.
In fact, I still don’t think that actually happened.
Oh man, when those rumblings started I figured one-year deal - vet mentor for KP and Hernangomez or something. But no, four fully guaranteed years that are still hurting us.
Noel i could go either way if he leaves fine, if he stays fine
Im 100% on board with bringing burks back at that price. Im less interested in Noel. I mean he was solid, but i feel like you can find guys like Noel (and burks and bullock) toward the end of FA. Especially when we will be the team still able to offer guys like 8 mill instead of 3 mill.
The knicks should hold all the cards with Fournier, whats his other options? LIke who is giving him 4/72. And if he walks, so be it. Kinda like Hayward last year.
Im 100% on board with bringing burks back at that price. Im less interested in Noel. I mean he was solid, but i feel like you can find guys like Noel (and burks and bullock) toward the end of FA. Especially when we will be the team still able to offer guys like 8 mill instead of 3 mill.
The knicks should hold all the cards with Fournier, whats his other options? LIke who is giving him 4/72. And if he walks, so be it. Kinda like Hayward last year.
Agree completely on Fournier. He's a good player, who I'd like them to sign but his upside is capped and a 4th year player option puts all of the risk on the Knicks. He's not an essential piece.
@NYPost_Berman
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Hearing Reggie Bullock has drawn interest for 3-year, mid-level money. But Knicks would be willing to work out sign-and-trade if they can’t hammer out a deal. If Knicks ink Evan Fournier, Bullock would return to Knicks bench.
@NYPost_Berman
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1m
Hearing Reggie Bullock has drawn interest for 3-year, mid-level money. But Knicks would be willing to work out sign-and-trade if they can’t hammer out a deal. If Knicks ink Evan Fournier, Bullock would return to Knicks bench.
@Schultz_Report
League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per
@Schultz_Report
League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per
I don't understand why New Orleans would pay Dinwiddie what Ball is going to get. At least Ball can shoot from the outside unliked Dinwiddie.
I dont know how i feel bout dinwiddie. I mean if you pair him with a shooter like fournier i guess im ok with it. But again thats gonna be prolly near 40 mill a year for dinwiddie and fournier, just not sure how i feel bout that, ha.
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Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per
I don't understand why New Orleans would pay Dinwiddie what Ball is going to get. At least Ball can shoot from the outside unliked Dinwiddie.
Dinwiddie can run a team and go get a basket. Ball is more of a complimentary/off-the-ball player. Or at leat he is at this point in his career.
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Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per
I don't understand why New Orleans would pay Dinwiddie what Ball is going to get. At least Ball can shoot from the outside unliked Dinwiddie.
Dinwiddie can run a team and go get a basket. Ball is more of a complimentary/off-the-ball player. Or at leat he is at this point in his career.
Agree
Dinwiddie can run a team and go get a basket. Ball is more of a complimentary/off-the-ball player. Or at leat he is at this point in his career.
That's sort of my point. Zion should be running the offense. That's where he's at his most dangerous.
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Dinwiddie can run a team and go get a basket. Ball is more of a complimentary/off-the-ball player. Or at leat he is at this point in his career.
That's sort of my point. Zion should be running the offense. That's where he's at his most dangerous.
yeah but you still need guards who can put pressure on the opposing defense. And they have to replace Bledsoe's minutes (nobody played more than him for NO last year).
Nooooope. That's the THJ deal. Noooooope.
The Knicks decided to basically run it back with the same crew, except with Fournier over Bullock. They didn't upgrade the roster, they locked it in and gave everyone a raise.
Next year Mitch and Randle will need to be paid. So it's basically this team. I dunno. We locked into a middling level 4 seed team, if things go right.
I would have rather waited until the end of free agency, got a bunch of guys on one year deals and run a different team, but kept things fluid to have cap space next year. Or take a chance with one of these young players like Ball or whoever.
I mean, I like all most of these guys, but I liked them on the contracts they had last year. The only real growth is Fournier over Bullock, and hoping RJ takes another leap as a player.
The Knicks decided to basically run it back with the same crew, except with Fournier over Bullock. They didn't upgrade the roster, they locked it in and gave everyone a raise.
Next year Mitch and Randle will need to be paid. So it's basically this team. I dunno. We locked into a middling level 4 seed team, if things go right.
I would have rather waited until the end of free agency, got a bunch of guys on one year deals and run a different team, but kept things fluid to have cap space next year. Or take a chance with one of these young players like Ball or whoever.
I mean, I like all most of these guys, but I liked them on the contracts they had last year. The only real growth is Fournier over Bullock, and hoping RJ takes another leap as a player.
First off just by not bringing back Payton they improved the starting point guard spot..
They added an 18ppg player whonis effecient from 3..
you are assuming none of the young players get better and improve..
Also how are they locked in? they have all of their draft picks and then some, they have the ability to trade for a star when he becomes available..