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NFT: Eve of NBA free agency and goodbye Frankie Smokes

PhilSimms15 : 8/1/2021 6:27 pm
Going to be a wild week for the NBA as around 1/3 of the league are free agents and the Knicks say goodbye to Frank.
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RE: RE: I know I'm going to say the expected...  
Jan in DC : 8/2/2021 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15320517 nygiants16 said:
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but I'm really disappointed.

The Knicks decided to basically run it back with the same crew, except with Fournier over Bullock. They didn't upgrade the roster, they locked it in and gave everyone a raise.

Next year Mitch and Randle will need to be paid. So it's basically this team. I dunno. We locked into a middling level 4 seed team, if things go right.

I would have rather waited until the end of free agency, got a bunch of guys on one year deals and run a different team, but kept things fluid to have cap space next year. Or take a chance with one of these young players like Ball or whoever.

I mean, I like all most of these guys, but I liked them on the contracts they had last year. The only real growth is Fournier over Bullock, and hoping RJ takes another leap as a player.



First off just by not bringing back Payton they improved the starting point guard spot..

They added an 18ppg player whonis effecient from 3..

you are assuming none of the young players get better and improve..

Also how are they locked in? they have all of their draft picks and then some, they have the ability to trade for a star when he becomes available..


They locked in the players that they had and gave them raises, basically bringing back the same team with one exception. They gave them all multiyear deals, so next year they won't have the cap space that they had this year.

Reggie Bullock was efficient from 3 as well.

I'm just telling you how I feel these free agent signings. If you want to stan and be happy about bringing back the same team, that's fine. I just wanted clear upgrades and other than one exception, they haven't done that at all.
If you want to build through the draft, then you have to lean on/wait  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/3/2021 10:18 am : link
for your players to develop.

Whatever RJ Barrett becomes is the way this team gets better. We're comparing an 18ppg scorer to a 10ppg scoring. One's a backup and one's a bonafide NBA starter.

Nerlens Noel is one of the best defensive bigs in the NBA. Keeping some kind of rim protection was critical to playing Thibs' defense.

You might be one of the only people left who thinks they're paying Mitch. I certainly don't. They'd move him in an instant for a piece they need. I think they just drafted his replacement.
Missing line  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/3/2021 10:19 am : link
"We're comparing an 18ppg scorer to a 10ppg scoring. One's a backup and one's a bonafide NBA starter." This was in reference to Bullock vs Fournier.
Evan Fournier is a true three level scorer.  
Heisenberg : 8/3/2021 10:31 am : link
Bullock was good for the Knicks last year, but you they are different players offensively. Bullock is a spot up shooter, where Fournier can get and make shots from all over the court.

Bullock is a better defender though. Really love how he embraced that role last year.
ill say it again  
djm : 8/3/2021 10:40 am : link
some of you are WAYYYY too obsessed or scared of these contracts. Not every deal is Noah redux or Stat redux or whatever.

Most deals can be traded. As long as the player isn't close to dead or unable to play, they CAN and will be traded.

Some of you are scarred. The Knicks are well coached and the roster is populated with not one single max deal and every player here is either underpaid (Randle) or paid as they should be paid, on 3 year deals. Noel or Burks cannot be traded? Since when? They are making peanuts compared to most NBA vets and both earned a well earned rep as a solid pros.

Not every contract is a death knell. Especially now when the team is well coached. Players aren't running the asylum here anymore.

Knicks couldn't do anything else. You cannot force a player to come here and you cannot just NOT pay vets. Knicks need to field a team that can play. Noel and Burks earned their money and round out the rotation.

Couldn't do much else and this doesn't change the future. Still have a flexible roster and kept the kids. It wasn't fun or exciting, but it's not bad either.
FWIW  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2021 10:43 am : link
Hollinger had a note yesterday that the Knicks may be looking to "renegotiate" and extend Robinson. Unclear what the renegotiate would mean/entail.
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