for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

Monday NYG Training Camp Practice News

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 8:59 am


Monday, August 2, 2021

Head Coach Joe Judge – Approx. 9:25 a.m.

Practice – 9:45 a.m. – 11:45 a.m.

Players Available – Approx. 11:55 a.m.

Get well soon, Aaron. We need you.  
Klaatu : 8/2/2021 9:06 am : link
Now, about Elerson Smith...
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:15 am : link
Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan
Sources: Third-round pick Aaron Robinson had core muscle surgery late in the spring. The young CB hasn’t been on the field practicing yet at training camp, but has been making progress. This kind of procedure usually involves a 6-week timetable. Robinson shouldn’t be far off.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:17 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
The Giants had 18 players on the 91-man roster not participating in Saturday's walk-through. Interesting to see if more guys get back in the mix with the pads set to come on for the first time tomorrow. Bound to be some attrition when the full contact practices start.
RE: Get well soon, Aaron. We need you.  
Dnew15 : 8/2/2021 9:28 am : link
In comment 15319412 Klaatu said:
Quote:
Now, about Elerson Smith...


I wonder if the Giants are setting Smith up for a year long PUP list type thing.

He hasn't played football in a year - he played at a small school - you gotta love the size and measurables but the Giants may view him as a project but couldn't risk moving him to the PS b/c someone would snatch him up.

The Giants don't have a great group of EDGE guys - but they do have a lot of bodies.

Just a hunch.
I think in regards to some of these vet  
bLiTz 2k : 8/2/2021 9:30 am : link
Signings around the league early in camp, remember during most of the off-season teams didn't have a clear picture of the practice squad rules for this season.

They recently announced that they are carrying over the expanded practice squad with vet exemptions from 2020.

Makes sense to see guys like Looney, Morris, etc. getting camp contracts. If they don't make the cut they can still carry them on the PS into the regular season. If they couldn't, they likely would have a few less vets in camp imo.
Dnew15, you could be right, but I'd hate to see that.  
Klaatu : 8/2/2021 9:33 am : link
Rookies need reps, they need to be on the field, practicing. They won't develop on PUP or IR, and Smith has tools worth developing.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:39 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said bringing in Alfred Morris doesn’t have to do with Saquon Barkley’s progress. Judge wanted to add depth and said he “loves” the way Morris competes. Coaching staff is a big fan of him.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:39 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - shells today...pads tue and wed as part of ramp up
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:40 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - toney still building up with trainers
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:40 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - Smith is day to day with trainers too
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:40 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge on wiggins - solid, smart, position flexibilty, strong, anchor
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:41 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge on what he likes about Kenny Wiggins, who has filled in at LG: Good vet, smart, has played all five spots on the line. Has a real, cool demeanor about him. Has good size, strength and anchor.

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - lenieux is day to day
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:41 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - looney experienced, know system compete at ctr and grd...will biluild up him and rb morris with trainers
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:41 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - barkley "making a lot of strides"..."showing progress".....but still no timetable
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:42 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said Saquon Barkley is showing “tangible progress”. His rehab has been mirroring what the #Giants are doing in practice. Gives them a better idea of where he’s at relative to the team by doing that.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:42 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - martinez has taken all the mental reps...still has to ramp up
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:42 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - team will work out a bunch of guys over next 2-3 weeks.....always looking for competition and help
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:42 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge - ojulari came here in shape and ready to go, so he had a good jump physically
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 9:43 am : link
New York Giants

@Giants
Jonotthan Harrison has passed his physical and has been removed from PUP list
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 10:04 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Daniel Jones and Joe Looney sent on the rare lap during a walk-through period at the start of practice.
RE: ...  
BigBlueShock : 8/2/2021 10:50 am : link
In comment 15319513 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Daniel Jones and Joe Looney sent on the rare lap during a walk-through period at the start of practice.

Haha. Welcome to the team, Joe Looney!
RE: RE: Get well soon, Aaron. We need you.  
Rudy5757 : 8/2/2021 11:27 am : link
In comment 15319449 Dnew15 said:
Quote:
In comment 15319412 Klaatu said:


Quote:


Now, about Elerson Smith...



I wonder if the Giants are setting Smith up for a year long PUP list type thing.

He hasn't played football in a year - he played at a small school - you gotta love the size and measurables but the Giants may view him as a project but couldn't risk moving him to the PS b/c someone would snatch him up.

The Giants don't have a great group of EDGE guys - but they do have a lot of bodies.

Just a hunch.


I highly doubt they would do this. The PUP list means he cant practice. You dont want a guy to miss 2 full seasons of football at an age. I think that would hinder his progress. Now if he does practice I can see them doing an IR but even that is unlikely.
Entire defense including coaches  
bLiTz 2k : 8/2/2021 11:29 am : link
Running a lap.
I read somewhere  
JuliusPepperwood : 8/2/2021 11:43 am : link
And I will have to find it, but is it true that Saquon may be out until week 6? I saw 2-6 weeks of the regular season, I think it was bleacher report.
RE: I read somewhere  
bLiTz 2k : 8/2/2021 11:53 am : link
In comment 15319630 JuliusPepperwood said:
Quote:
And I will have to find it, but is it true that Saquon may be out until week 6? I saw 2-6 weeks of the regular season, I think it was bleacher report.


There has literally been zero information on a timetable for Barkley from any credible source. Anything like that is either opinion or clickbait.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 12:12 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Looney - has no preference on position...trying to have fun....he is flexible....says did some snaps at guard today
i get they have some new pieces  
ryanmkeane : 8/2/2021 12:14 pm : link
and it's incredibly early, but can we just have a few practices where the offense shines? jesus christ.
the beat writers seem to be really making a point  
GiantsFan84 : 8/2/2021 12:15 pm : link
about how terrible the offense looks so far
Think saquon available game 1 for limited carries  
Payasdaddy : 8/2/2021 12:24 pm : link
Possibly see a couple carries in late August
Don’t think that’s unreasonable
Of course maybe they wait till late sept
RE: i get they have some new pieces  
BigBlueJ : 8/2/2021 12:30 pm : link
In comment 15319669 ryanmkeane said:
Quote:
and it's incredibly early, but can we just have a few practices where the offense shines? jesus christ.


Oh so you know its early? and You know the install is in progress and Defense always has the advantage. You know all this but still you screaming Jesus Christ? Then and oh boy then you will cry about CB1 and we have know Linebackers that can cover lol
BigBlue  
ryanmkeane : 8/2/2021 12:42 pm : link
absolutely not my point. Was just saying - it would be nice. This seems to happen EVERY year. and EVERY year we say 'well it's fine the offense will catch up'......and then they never do.
RE: RE: i get they have some new pieces  
GiantsFan84 : 8/2/2021 12:43 pm : link
In comment 15319708 BigBlueJ said:
Quote:
In comment 15319669 ryanmkeane said:


Quote:


and it's incredibly early, but can we just have a few practices where the offense shines? jesus christ.



Oh so you know its early? and You know the install is in progress and Defense always has the advantage. You know all this but still you screaming Jesus Christ? Then and oh boy then you will cry about CB1 and we have know Linebackers that can cover lol


i am just speaking for myself and not others but i'm not in panic mode yet. but the beat writers are going out of their way to bash the offense. and i'm not talking about the pat leonard's. duggan who is very middle of the road and fair in his coverage was extremely critical today of the offense
nobody is in panic mode  
ryanmkeane : 8/2/2021 12:46 pm : link
i'm just saying it would be nice to read something good about the offense in training camp. for about the last 6 years, it hasn't happened
...  
Jimmy Googs : 8/2/2021 12:51 pm : link

...  
Jimmy Googs : 8/2/2021 12:53 pm : link

Most of the offensive highlights  
UberAlias : 8/2/2021 12:53 pm : link
Are Vacchiano reporting about Elijah Moore.
RE: ...  
mfsd : 8/2/2021 12:59 pm : link
In comment 15319762 Jimmy Googs said:
Quote:



Haha well done
RE: nobody is in panic mode  
Bill L : 8/2/2021 1:32 pm : link
In comment 15319745 ryanmkeane said:
Quote:
i'm just saying it would be nice to read something good about the offense in training camp. for about the last 6 years, it hasn't happened


Mostly they're picking out random stuff and likely also have last year at the forefronts of their brains, so their attention is both focused and biased. But the salient point is that the calendar (i.e., how so very early they are in camp) suggests that these random motes have zero meaning about anything. What you're seeing is noise and filler which should bring about zero emotional expenditure form you.
RE: RE: I read somewhere  
JuliusPepperwood : 8/2/2021 1:38 pm : link
In comment 15319635 bLiTz 2k said:
Quote:
In comment 15319630 JuliusPepperwood said:


Quote:


And I will have to find it, but is it true that Saquon may be out until week 6? I saw 2-6 weeks of the regular season, I think it was bleacher report.



There has literally been zero information on a timetable for Barkley from any credible source. Anything like that is either opinion or clickbait.
It was in the Athletic originally but I saw it here.
Here. - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: i get they have some new pieces  
Alan W : 8/2/2021 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15319737 GiantsFan84 said:
Quote:
In comment 15319708 BigBlueJ said:


Quote:


In comment 15319669 ryanmkeane said:


Quote:


and it's incredibly early, but can we just have a few practices where the offense shines? jesus christ.



Oh so you know its early? and You know the install is in progress and Defense always has the advantage. You know all this but still you screaming Jesus Christ? Then and oh boy then you will cry about CB1 and we have know Linebackers that can cover lol



i am just speaking for myself and not others but i'm not in panic mode yet. but the beat writers are going out of their way to bash the offense. and i'm not talking about the pat leonard's. duggan who is very middle of the road and fair in his coverage was extremely critical today of the offense


Not ready for panic mode yet = i'll be there in a heartbeat
It's the third paragraph down  
JuliusPepperwood : 8/2/2021 1:44 pm : link
"That could be huge as running back Saquon Barkley continues to make his way back from a torn ACL; he could miss two to six weeks of the regular season, according to The Athletic's Virginia Zakas."
RE: the beat writers seem to be really making a point  
cjac : 8/2/2021 1:52 pm : link
In comment 15319671 GiantsFan84 said:
Quote:
about how terrible the offense looks so far


Oh good, i'm sick and tired of hearing how great everyone is on week one of camp only to suck on week one of the season. Hopefully this is the reverse trend
RE: It's the third paragraph down  
GeoMan999 : 8/2/2021 1:55 pm : link
In comment 15319838 JuliusPepperwood said:
Quote:
"That could be huge as running back Saquon Barkley continues to make his way back from a torn ACL; he could miss two to six weeks of the regular season, according to The Athletic's Virginia Zakas."


She is just stating that if his progress is slower than it has been, it could be up to six weeks if he is placed on PUP. She has No information, but just doing her job to make it seem like she does have information lol!
RE: RE: the beat writers seem to be really making a point  
rsjem1979 : 8/2/2021 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15319853 cjac said:
Quote:
In comment 15319671 GiantsFan84 said:


Quote:


about how terrible the offense looks so far



Oh good, i'm sick and tired of hearing how great everyone is on week one of camp only to suck on week one of the season. Hopefully this is the reverse trend


It's also possible that Jason Garrett's offense sucks.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/2/2021 2:24 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
Today's #Giants notes - Nice catches by Sills, Engram, Golladay; Jax a diving PD, Garrett and Crowder PDs; Lawrence looks quick off the line; Fulton increased reps. Also, Jones was inconsistent.
I suspect  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/2/2021 2:27 pm : link
they have made significant changes to the offense so they are working things out.

again....  
ryanmkeane : 8/2/2021 2:55 pm : link
you guys think this isn't an issue, but clearly the same things have happened with the offense year after year.

It would be awesome if the offense started to click in week 2 instead of week 9.
Maybe they click...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/2/2021 2:57 pm : link
...tomorrow?

There were apparently very few passes thrown today.
the Big Blue Kickoff guys  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/2/2021 3:01 pm : link
said that the offense has been playing all red zone which means there are no long pass plays and a compact defensive scheme. They do that because players tend to get soft tissue issues early in camp stretching out for long passes - which I found pretty interesting, that Judge starts with red zone to avoid injuries. In any case, offense always looks off in the beginning because the field is really compressed and their timing is still rounding out.

I thought it was a pretty interesting take.
It’ll come on offense......  
Simms11 : 8/2/2021 3:04 pm : link
Need time for new guys to get acclimated and get the offense into some rhythm. Also if Barkley and Rudolph were playing, you also might see a different offense. I think they’re working on passing routes and more deep shots, which have lower chance for success also. Only second week of camp, let’s wait till after the 3rd Pre-season game to start worrying.
Jones inconsistent  
Payasdaddy : 8/2/2021 3:27 pm : link
So who do we bundle our picks for to grab a qs in 2022?
Just had to do it! :)
I still contend, this defense might be really special  
George from PA : 8/2/2021 3:44 pm : link
.
RE: again....  
Johnny5 : 8/2/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15319952 ryanmkeane said:
Quote:
you guys think this isn't an issue, but clearly the same things have happened with the offense year after year.

It would be awesome if the offense started to click in week 2 instead of week 9.

You are right! Same thing happened in camp last year.

Oh wait. We didn't have camp last year. Never mind.

lol
People seem to forget  
jvm52106 : 8/2/2021 4:05 pm : link
the defense generally has the upper hand early in camp and even more so this year:

Lots of new faces (until Morris signed- not one back of significance from last season getting reps), 3 new WR's, revamped line with guys missing (Peart and then Lemieux) and don't forget new Ol coaches... I am not worried at all and the deep ball over throws do not bother me. The deep balls that look like punts with even less distance that would bother me. No way they have their timing down yet.

Now, if this is an issue week 2 of Pre-season games then yeah, time to start getting the concern up.
RE: again....  
Jimmy Googs : 8/2/2021 4:18 pm : link
In comment 15319952 ryanmkeane said:
Quote:
you guys think this isn't an issue, but clearly the same things have happened with the offense year after year.

It would be awesome if the offense started to click in week 2 instead of week 9.


Actually, it would be awesome if the offense clicked at all. It's been a while.

I always pegged you as one of the "let's wait and see" guys on here...what gives? Why the panic?
RE: the Big Blue Kickoff guys  
Reale01 : 8/2/2021 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15319962 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
Quote:
said that the offense has been playing all red zone which means there are no long pass plays and a compact defensive scheme. They do that because players tend to get soft tissue issues early in camp stretching out for long passes - which I found pretty interesting, that Judge starts with red zone to avoid injuries. In any case, offense always looks off in the beginning because the field is really compressed and their timing is still rounding out.

I heard that as well. It makes sense. Way to early to worry. Lets see how they do in the scrimmages with the Browns and Patriots. Nice to get the info, I don't know what would make people the happiest. Offense scoring at will - defense sucks. Offense can't score - offense sucks. Its 50-50 - they both suck. lol

I thought it was a pretty interesting take.
Back to the Corner