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NFL All time Non-Hall of Fame Team

Chris in Philly : 8/2/2021 1:26 pm
This is sure to make some heads explode. But nice to see Bavaro recognized.


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I'd take Bledsoe or Simms  
widmerseyebrow : 8/2/2021 1:35 pm : link
over Vick.
I'll take Carl Banks  
johnnyb : 8/2/2021 1:45 pm : link
over Cornelius Bennett.
Not able to view it right now.  
Matt M. : 8/2/2021 1:49 pm : link
But, my first comment was going to be any list has to include Bavaro, who one could make a HOF argument for. Agree with the other comments on here so far. My next thought was Banks had to be on the list.
Sterling Sharpe...  
bw in dc : 8/2/2021 1:49 pm : link
need to be added. What an unbelievably great WR who had his career cut short. It's an absolute crime he's not in Canton.

Like his brother Shannon said at his HoF induction speech, the better Sharpe was STILL NOT in the HoF...
I think Terrell Davis should be in there at RB  
Bear vs Shark : 8/2/2021 1:50 pm : link
I opened it up thinking Tiki might have a case to be made, but Williams and Jackson are definitely above him on the pecking order.
RE: Sterling Sharpe...  
Chris in Philly : 8/2/2021 1:51 pm : link
In comment 15319848 bw in dc said:
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need to be added. What an unbelievably great WR who had his career cut short. It's an absolute crime he's not in Canton.

Like his brother Shannon said at his HoF induction speech, the better Sharpe was STILL NOT in the HoF...


He’s already on there. As usual, you miss the blindingly obvious. 😃
Agreed with the QB picks  
allstarjim : 8/2/2021 1:59 pm : link
Which is the worst part about the team they assembled. Lots of better choices, including Bledsoe and Simms. Slight nod to Dave Krieg (a little inconsistent).

A guy I'm definitely taking over Vick and might be my top choice is Steve McNair.

But I think Rich Gannon might really come out on top for me. All good choices. But what good does all those tremendous receivers do for me if I have Vick under center?
RE: I think Terrell Davis should be in there at RB  
allstarjim : 8/2/2021 2:01 pm : link
In comment 15319849 Bear vs Shark said:
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I opened it up thinking Tiki might have a case to be made, but Williams and Jackson are definitely above him on the pecking order.


Terrell Davis is in the Hall.
RE: I think Terrell Davis should be in there at RB  
giants#1 : 8/2/2021 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15319849 Bear vs Shark said:
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I opened it up thinking Tiki might have a case to be made, but Williams and Jackson are definitely above him on the pecking order.


TD's in the HOF.
the dogkiller? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  
Greg from LI : 8/2/2021 2:06 pm : link
Hokie trash
BTW  
allstarjim : 8/2/2021 2:09 pm : link
Tiki should absolutely be on the team, 100%.

Tiki had the 4th best season in NFL history in yards from scrimmage with 2,390.

In addition, he's 15th in the NFL history in career yards from scrimmage.

EVERY PLAYER ABOVE HIM IS IN THE HALL OF FAME OR IS A LOCK TO BE IN THE HALL OF FAME (Adrian Peterson, Larry Fitzgerald, Frank Gore).

The next 4 players BEHIND Tiki in career yards from scrimmage ARE ALSO IN THE HALL.

Edgerrin James, Randy Moss, Eric Dickerson, Isaac Bruce.

Not only should Tiki be in the Hall of Fame, he easily should be on this team.
Ricky Williams only had one season that can match Tiki's prime  
Greg from LI : 8/2/2021 2:09 pm : link
2002
RE: Ricky Williams only had one season that can match Tiki's prime  
allstarjim : 8/2/2021 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15319878 Greg from LI said:
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2002


Greg, I'd also argue Tiki was a better version of Roger Craig. And I've argued Craig should be in the Hall.
Why  
Toth029 : 8/2/2021 2:16 pm : link
All this Mike Vick praise from polls/sites like this.

He was a highlight reel but hardly a good passer, which is his position. You can put several dozen QBs there instead.
Tiki's massively underrated because of the low TD #s  
giants#1 : 8/2/2021 2:17 pm : link
Between trying to justify the Dayne selection and then BJ stealing short yardage carries, not much Tiki could do.
At least half of those guys should be in the HOF  
arniefez : 8/2/2021 2:19 pm : link
and probably almost half were better than some of the players in the HOF
RE: Tiki's massively underrated because of the low TD #s  
allstarjim : 8/2/2021 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15319886 giants#1 said:
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Between trying to justify the Dayne selection and then BJ stealing short yardage carries, not much Tiki could do.


Correct, and it's not like 67 career TDs are anything to sneeze at. Here are guys that have only one more TD than Tiki: Art Monk, Raymond Berry, Larry Csonka. All in the Hall.
RE: Why  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/2/2021 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15319885 Toth029 said:
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All this Mike Vick praise from polls/sites like this.

He was a highlight reel but hardly a good passer, which is his position. You can put several dozen QBs there instead.


He carried Atlanta at times. I am happy that Reid got Vick late and not right out of the draft as I think he was a better QB than McNabb.
Sam Mills was better than Zack Thomas  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/2/2021 2:30 pm : link
There. I said it.
Desmond Howard or Rick Upchurch as return men??!?!!!!  
VaGman : 8/2/2021 2:53 pm : link
I believe Brian Mitchell of the WFT is in the top 3 of total NFL yards and should ALREADY be in the HOF.
RE: Desmond Howard or Rick Upchurch as return men??!?!!!!  
giants#1 : 8/2/2021 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15319948 VaGman said:
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I believe Brian Mitchell of the WFT is in the top 3 of total NFL yards and should ALREADY be in the HOF.


Devin Hester should be the returner.
Patrick Willis needs off  
NINEster : 8/2/2021 4:16 pm : link
that list ASAP if you catch the drift.

In his first few years in the league it could've easily been argued that he was the best player at his respective position.

Anyone who can reasonably sustain that high level for a few years, then be top 5 the remainder of his career is HoF, even if only 8 seasons.

Kills me that longevity is gonna have people thinking that Bobby Wagner or Luke Kuechly were better ILBs.

Boselli, Willis and Hayes  
jeff57 : 8/2/2021 4:21 pm : link
Definitely should be in there.
RE: Patrick Willis needs off  
Angel Eyes : 8/2/2021 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15320062 NINEster said:
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that list ASAP if you catch the drift.

In his first few years in the league it could've easily been argued that he was the best player at his respective position.

Anyone who can reasonably sustain that high level for a few years, then be top 5 the remainder of his career is HoF, even if only 8 seasons.

Kills me that longevity is gonna have people thinking that Bobby Wagner or Luke Kuechly were better ILBs.

Kuechly didn’t last real long in the league either; eight years, same as Willis.
"Christensen and Novacek were complete tight ends"  
JohnG in Albany : 8/2/2021 4:26 pm : link
I'm assuming that by "complete" he means blocking as well.

I must have missed those plays.

I'm not saying they don't deserve to be on this list, both were fantastic receiving TE's, but to call those two guys "complete" seems rather odd to me.

Tiki has almost as many rushing yards as Bo & Roger Craig  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/2/2021 4:43 pm : link
combined.
Another consideration at QB is Boomer  
Matt M. : 8/2/2021 5:00 pm : link
Maybe not as good as some of the other picks, but I would take him over Vick. I'd take Randal Cunningham over him too.

The next couple of comments may be through Giants colored glasses  
Matt M. : 8/2/2021 5:02 pm : link
But, I think Tiki belongs there and I would say Carthon at FB as well. There is not a single FB from my lifetime that I would rather have in the backfield over him. And I say that sincerely and hopefully objectively.
On D Klecko is the one name that jumps out at me.  
Matt M. : 8/2/2021 5:04 pm : link
He belongs in the HOF, especially after the stat adjustment made for sacks.
RE: The next couple of comments may be through Giants colored glasses  
allstarjim : 8/2/2021 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15320108 Matt M. said:
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But, I think Tiki belongs there and I would say Carthon at FB as well. There is not a single FB from my lifetime that I would rather have in the backfield over him. And I say that sincerely and hopefully objectively.


Totally agreed. Carthon was the best Giants fullback in my lifetime, apologies to Charles Way.
OJ Anderson?  
JohnB : 8/2/2021 8:36 pm : link
he deserves to be talked about.
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