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Austin Texas emerges as possible relocation spot for Bills

JohnF : 8/2/2021 5:22 pm
Austin emerges as possible relocation spot for Bills amid new Orchard Park stadium negotiations, per report

And so it begins...again.

This has..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/2/2021 5:29 pm : link
been a rumor for years with Buffalo leaving, but I don't see much of a chance of it happening. Any goodwill gained by moving to Austin will be offset by the slap in the face to the Buffalo fans
A lot of back and forth with this report  
bLiTz 2k : 8/2/2021 5:30 pm : link
Since yesterday, including a report today that the Austin City council has no knowledge of this whatsoever.

This is clearly a ploy by Bills ownership to scare Buffalo into financing the field, but otherwise there hasn't been any tangible progress made into them inquiring about a move...yet.
I think it's posturing as well  
JohnF : 8/2/2021 5:35 pm : link
I doubt Jerry Jones would allow another Texas team in the state. Austin is just the new Los Angeles (teams can't use LA as a threat anymore). The more logical threat would be St. Louis, I could easily see them looking for a new team.

Not sure where this money for a new stadium is coming from, though. NYS is in huge debt, and the Buffalo economy isn't doing all that well with covid.
CBSSports.com is a cesspool of sports journalism  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/2/2021 5:55 pm : link
Nearly every story is clickbait.
Jerry just about lost his mind ...  
Manny in CA : 8/2/2021 5:56 pm : link

When the Raidahs threatened to move to San-Antone (claimed it was "Cowboy Country").

The Austin economy is booming (as it steadily strips down California's Silicone Valley). As far as Cowboy Country, that's a laugher; very few Texans left in Austin, they're all Tech-sans now - most hate the Cowpukes.



What's wrong...  
jnoble : 8/2/2021 6:07 pm : link
...with the stadium they currently have?
Buffalo currently plays at  
JohnF : 8/2/2021 6:23 pm : link
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highmark_Stadium_(New_York)]Highmark Stadium[/url], built in 1973.

What's wrong with the stadium? Well, from Wikipedia:
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Buffalo, by virtue of its position downwind of Lake Erie, is one of the nation's windiest cities, and as a result, Highmark Stadium is difficult for kickers, with swirling winds that change direction rapidly. This is exacerbated by the stadium's design. The field is 50 feet (15 m) below ground level, while the top of the upper deck stands only 60 feet (18 m) above ground. The open end lies parallel to the direction of the prevailing winds, so when the winds come in, they immediately drop down into the bowl, causing the stadium's signature wind patterns.


As far as football goes, other than the wind, it's fine. So was the old Giants Stadium. But owners want revenue generating stadiums, with PSL's and all the new amenities (WiFi, more comfortable seats, more luxury boxes, etc.) that can compete with 65 inch Ultra High Definition TV's in your house.

Naturally, they want the taxpayers to pay for all of this. The NFL owners take P.T. Barnum to heart.
fixed link  
JohnF : 8/2/2021 6:24 pm : link
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Highmark Stadium (New York) - ( New Window )
RE: What's wrong...  
TLong : 8/2/2021 6:26 pm : link
In comment 15320160 jnoble said:
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...with the stadium they currently have?


I guess maybe the seat padding isn't soft enough or the seat warmers are failing.
RE: Buffalo currently plays at  
TLong : 8/2/2021 6:29 pm : link
In comment 15320187 JohnF said:
Quote:
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highmark_Stadium_(New_York)]Highmark Stadium[/url], built in 1973.

What's wrong with the stadium? Well, from Wikipedia:


Quote:


Buffalo, by virtue of its position downwind of Lake Erie, is one of the nation's windiest cities, and as a result, Highmark Stadium is difficult for kickers, with swirling winds that change direction rapidly. This is exacerbated by the stadium's design. The field is 50 feet (15 m) below ground level, while the top of the upper deck stands only 60 feet (18 m) above ground. The open end lies parallel to the direction of the prevailing winds, so when the winds come in, they immediately drop down into the bowl, causing the stadium's signature wind patterns.



As far as football goes, other than the wind, it's fine. So was the old Giants Stadium. But owners want revenue generating stadiums, with PSL's and all the new amenities (WiFi, more comfortable seats, more luxury boxes, etc.) that can compete with 65 inch Ultra High Definition TV's in your house.

Naturally, they want the taxpayers to pay for all of this. The NFL owners take P.T. Barnum to heart.


Well said Sir.
 
christian : 8/2/2021 6:30 pm : link
It’s an interesting arraignment if the stadium is 100% owned by Erie County. That’s a lot of money for the county to put up.

Q2 stadium that just opened for Austin FC was built with private money, but is owned by the city. That’s a model I could see the city arraigning to build a 60K capacity building.

There’s certainly the expendable income here, and tons of football fans without allegiance in central Texas. And of course tons of transplants from CA, NY, and the Great Lakes.
I remember living in western pa when the stillers  
dabru : 8/2/2021 7:38 pm : link
Wanted a new stadium. There was a vote on a plan and it lost, so the city came up with “plan b” which didn’t go to vote. Any money the Rooney’s had to put in was more than offset by the fact they got the naming rights. They came out of it with more cash than going in.
RE: I think it's posturing as well  
Bergen346 : 8/2/2021 7:46 pm : link
In comment 15320131 JohnF said:
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I doubt Jerry Jones would allow another Texas team in the state. Austin is just the new Los Angeles (teams can't use LA as a threat anymore). The more logical threat would be St. Louis, I could easily see them looking for a new team.

Not sure where this money for a new stadium is coming from, though. NYS is in huge debt, and the Buffalo economy isn't doing all that well with covid.


NYS is not in huge debt, but I agree with everything else you just said.
RE: RE: I think it's posturing as well  
JohnF : 8/2/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15320308 Bergen346 said:
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NYS is not in huge debt, but I agree with everything else you just said.


Technically, you are correct...the New York State Constitution requres (I think) a ballanced budget. But the State has gotten around that with Bond debt.

Currently, the debt is $352,117,241,500 in debt..and growing.
US Debt Clock .org - ( New Window )
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/2/2021 8:07 pm : link
The Bills leaving Buffalo would be a slap in the face to those diehard fans.
RE: RE: RE: I think it's posturing as well  
Bergen346 : 8/2/2021 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15320324 JohnF said:
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In comment 15320308 Bergen346 said:


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NYS is not in huge debt, but I agree with everything else you just said.



Technically, you are correct...the New York State Constitution requres (I think) a ballanced budget. But the State has gotten around that with Bond debt.

Currently, the debt is $352,117,241,500 in debt..and growing. US Debt Clock .org - ( New Window )


All municipalities nation wide must pass a balanced budget - always. Before COVID NYS was broke. Due to COVID aid NYS currently has a $2 Billion budget SURPLUS. NYS many other states are flush with cash because of COVID.
RE: What's wrong...  
KeoweeFan : 8/2/2021 8:25 pm : link
In comment 15320160 jnoble said:
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...with the stadium they currently have?

As someone who went to many games at the Ralph, the answer is DECEMBER.

Don't know the statistics currently, but most of the ticket sales were from Rochester and Canada.
RE: Buffalo currently plays at  
montanagiant : 8/2/2021 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15320187 JohnF said:
Quote:
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highmark_Stadium_(New_York)]Highmark Stadium[/url], built in 1973.

What's wrong with the stadium? Well, from Wikipedia:


Quote:


Buffalo, by virtue of its position downwind of Lake Erie, is one of the nation's windiest cities, and as a result, Highmark Stadium is difficult for kickers, with swirling winds that change direction rapidly. This is exacerbated by the stadium's design. The field is 50 feet (15 m) below ground level, while the top of the upper deck stands only 60 feet (18 m) above ground. The open end lies parallel to the direction of the prevailing winds, so when the winds come in, they immediately drop down into the bowl, causing the stadium's signature wind patterns.



As far as football goes, other than the wind, it's fine. So was the old Giants Stadium. But owners want revenue generating stadiums, with PSL's and all the new amenities (WiFi, more comfortable seats, more luxury boxes, etc.) that can compete with 65 inch Ultra High Definition TV's in your house.

Naturally, they want the taxpayers to pay for all of this. The NFL owners take P.T. Barnum to heart.

Being from Rochester and going to a bunch of Bills games I never understood why on Earth they built that stadium into the ground instead of on it
RE: Jerry just about lost his mind ...  
GeofromNJ : 8/2/2021 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15320149 Manny in CA said:
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When the Raidahs threatened to move to San-Antone (claimed it was "Cowboy Country").

The Austin economy is booming (as it steadily strips down California's Silicone Valley). As far as Cowboy Country, that's a laugher; very few Texans left in Austin, they're all Tech-sans now - most hate the Cowpukes.



True that.
Dedicated fans don't matter ....  
Manny in CA : 8/2/2021 11:03 pm : link

If the owners see greener pastures - The Rams left Cleveland, Los angeles, St. Louis; The Cards left Chicago, St. Louis (St. Louis keeps gettin' you-know-what), Da Raidahs - Oakland, L.A., Oakland again ..

Then the worse heartbreakers - Colts leave Baltimore in the middle of the night -

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/1984-report-colts-leave-baltimore-overnight/6802490#

Browns leave Cleveland ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSWZlQxhY2M







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