8-10 mill next year to make sure they operate over the cap. Like that seems like a dumb reason to not sign a schroeder or jackson. Im all for Jackson, i think at 8 mill he is a great deal. And as much as i dont really think schroeder is good he is a still a great deal at 8 mill. He isnt a bad NBA player he just isnt worth 20 mill or whatever numbers people were throwing around.
RE: RE: Dragic was interviewed about being in toronto
I don't know enough about Brunson to comment but two things stand out. One, Brunson is going to get paid next offseason and Obi is only in the second year of his deal. Huge advantage for the Obi side there. Two, we have no depth at PF. It would basically be Randle and I'd assume Taj as the backup PF. They'd need to address that.
id like to see another year of obi before trading him for...
a guy like brunson. Sure he is only a year older, but he has been in the league for 3 seasons. I know he hasnt got the chance to play 30+ a night, but Obi hasnt got to play 15 yet and only had his rookie year.
RE: RE: RE: Dragic was interviewed about being in toronto
and he said he hasnt heard from them and said he is waiting for the third team to comment..
So sounds like he is going to end up flipped to 3rd team
I would assume OKC or maybe the Spurs.
Best case is Dallas (with Kleiber or Powell as trade bait) which may pave the way for a Brunson trade to NYK.
I'd love Brunson but I think there's little to no chance Dallas trades him. They love him. Even if they get Dragic they probably keep him as Dragic can play off the ball.
I don't know enough about Brunson to comment but two things stand out. One, Brunson is going to get paid next offseason and Obi is only in the second year of his deal. Huge advantage for the Obi side there. Two, we have no depth at PF. It would basically be Randle and I'd assume Taj as the backup PF. They'd need to address that.
I'm actaully sorta excited about this even though he was banged up most of last year. He's the latest in a LONG list of past their prime PGs to come to MSG:
Bibby
Baron Davis
Kidd
Mark Jackson (second stint)
Billups
Calderon
and a bunch of others...
I'm actaully sorta excited about this even though he was banged up most of last year. He's the latest in a LONG list of past their prime PGs to come to MSG:
Bibby
Baron Davis
Kidd
Mark Jackson (second stint)
Billups
Calderon
and a bunch of others...
He does sorta fit on that list but most of those guys were in literally the last gasps of their careers. If his knees allow it and that's a biggggg if, he's still in the upper half of NBA starting pg's
I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, that he was cooked last year with the Cs, but I can't help it.
He couldn't stay healthy, but he averaged 19ppg on 42% from the field. Not a 3 point shooter but he never was anyway.
He took 8.2 3s per game last year, tied for 12th in the league.
I don't think that volume is abnormal for him, but by todays standards hitting 36-37% isn't great. I've never categorized him as a shooter. I think he has one really good year for shooting 3s.
I don't think that volume is abnormal for him, but by todays standards hitting 36-37% isn't great. I've never categorized him as a shooter. I think he has one really good year for shooting 3s.
True, but as a PG you often end up with the ball with the shot clock running out and have to force shots. The rate is good enough that defenders have to respect it and can’t back off him. Sure beats Elfrid’s 28% anyway. :-)
I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, that he was cooked last year with the Cs, but I can't help it.
He couldn't stay healthy, but he averaged 19ppg on 42% from the field. Not a 3 point shooter but he never was anyway.
He took 8.2 3s per game last year, tied for 12th in the league.
I don't think that volume is abnormal for him, but by todays standards hitting 36-37% isn't great. I've never categorized him as a shooter. I think he has one really good year for shooting 3s.
Agreed, not a great percentage but he does take a lot.
i was going to post this yesterday, have they worked out together before?
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and he said he hasnt heard from them and said he is waiting for the third team to comment..
So sounds like he is going to end up flipped to 3rd team
I would assume OKC or maybe the Spurs.
Best case is Dallas (with Kleiber or Powell as trade bait) which may pave the way for a Brunson trade to NYK.
Brunson is only one year older.
Brunson is only one year older.
Steep cost but I really love Brunson. I'd hope to get something else like one of their picks last year (Josh Green, Tyler Bey or Tyrell Terry).
Brunson is only one year older.
I don't know enough about Brunson to comment but two things stand out. One, Brunson is going to get paid next offseason and Obi is only in the second year of his deal. Huge advantage for the Obi side there. Two, we have no depth at PF. It would basically be Randle and I'd assume Taj as the backup PF. They'd need to address that.
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and he said he hasnt heard from them and said he is waiting for the third team to comment..
So sounds like he is going to end up flipped to 3rd team
I would assume OKC or maybe the Spurs.
Best case is Dallas (with Kleiber or Powell as trade bait) which may pave the way for a Brunson trade to NYK.
I'd love Brunson but I think there's little to no chance Dallas trades him. They love him. Even if they get Dragic they probably keep him as Dragic can play off the ball.
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you trade Obi for Brunson straight up?
Brunson is only one year older.
I don't know enough about Brunson to comment but two things stand out. One, Brunson is going to get paid next offseason and Obi is only in the second year of his deal. Huge advantage for the Obi side there. Two, we have no depth at PF. It would basically be Randle and I'd assume Taj as the backup PF. They'd need to address that.
Def valid points.
Wow very interesting. I wanted no part of that contract, but for peanuts I'll definitely take him.
Bibby
Baron Davis
Kidd
Mark Jackson (second stint)
Billups
Calderon
and a bunch of others...
Bibby
Baron Davis
Kidd
Mark Jackson (second stint)
Billups
Calderon
and a bunch of others...
He does sorta fit on that list but most of those guys were in literally the last gasps of their careers. If his knees allow it and that's a biggggg if, he's still in the upper half of NBA starting pg's
RJ
Fournier
Mitch
Randle
Gets Rose back with Quickley on the 2nd unit.
Rose
Quickley
Obi
Noel
Burks
That's a pretty deep team
He couldn't stay healthy, but he averaged 19ppg on 42% from the field. Not a 3 point shooter but he never was anyway.
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I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, that he was cooked last year with the Cs, but I can't help it.
He couldn't stay healthy, but he averaged 19ppg on 42% from the field. Not a 3 point shooter but he never was anyway.
He took 8.2 3s per game last year, tied for 12th in the league.
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I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, that he was cooked last year with the Cs, but I can't help it.
He couldn't stay healthy, but he averaged 19ppg on 42% from the field. Not a 3 point shooter but he never was anyway.
He took 8.2 3s per game last year, tied for 12th in the league.
I don't think that volume is abnormal for him, but by todays standards hitting 36-37% isn't great. I've never categorized him as a shooter. I think he has one really good year for shooting 3s.
I don't think that volume is abnormal for him, but by todays standards hitting 36-37% isn't great. I've never categorized him as a shooter. I think he has one really good year for shooting 3s.
True, but as a PG you often end up with the ball with the shot clock running out and have to force shots. The rate is good enough that defenders have to respect it and can’t back off him. Sure beats Elfrid’s 28% anyway. :-)
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In comment 15322038 Jan in DC said:
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I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, that he was cooked last year with the Cs, but I can't help it.
He couldn't stay healthy, but he averaged 19ppg on 42% from the field. Not a 3 point shooter but he never was anyway.
He took 8.2 3s per game last year, tied for 12th in the league.
I don't think that volume is abnormal for him, but by todays standards hitting 36-37% isn't great. I've never categorized him as a shooter. I think he has one really good year for shooting 3s.
Agreed, not a great percentage but he does take a lot.
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I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, that he was cooked last year with the Cs, but I can't help it.
He couldn't stay healthy, but he averaged 19ppg on 42% from the field. Not a 3 point shooter but he never was anyway.
He took 8.2 3s per game last year, tied for 12th in the league.
Playing off of Tatum he probably settled for 3s to much
it's gonna be tough to out-bid the teams out of Turkey and China that have interest.
LMAO