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NFT: Kemba Walker to the Knicks

Strahan91 : 8/4/2021 10:01 am
OKC is buying him out and signing with the Knicks. No word on the contract
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Most likely will be for minimum  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 10:02 am : link
and then still have 8 million for somewhere else
wow...  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 10:06 am : link
i love this. I know he isnt what he used to be, but he is only 30 and if he can get healthy he is a steal. Much better then any other options we had. If nothing else his upside blows away pretty much any other option we had.
That’s awesome  
UConn4523 : 8/4/2021 10:06 am : link
Kemba at the Garden is special to me. Not a Knicks fan but I’m definitely going to watch Knick games to see him play.
There ya go  
Anakim : 8/4/2021 10:07 am : link
I guess he starts and Rose will come off the bench
Cool. Very cool.  
bceagle05 : 8/4/2021 10:08 am : link
I was actually going to suggest taking on his contract with a first rounder or two attached to it (during our spending spree), but this works.
I AM GIDDY  
Heisenberg : 8/4/2021 10:08 am : link
I mean, I know he's basically cooked, but I am giddy. I fucking love Kemba.
eh  
Greg from LI : 8/4/2021 10:08 am : link
Not a fan of his, but picking him up on the cheap isn't a bad gamble
RE: That’s awesome  
Anakim : 8/4/2021 10:09 am : link
In comment 15321985 UConn4523 said:
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Kemba at the Garden is special to me. Not a Knicks fan but I’m definitely going to watch Knick games to see him play.


That game-winning shot against Pitt? Epic.
Will really be able to limit him and Rose to keep them fresh....  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 10:09 am : link
they each could play 20-24 minutes a game.

Even as "awful" as he was last year he is a massive upgrade to Payton, lol. Payton to Walker and Bullock to Fournier with a full season of Rose are pretty solid upgrades.
Cool  
djm : 8/4/2021 10:09 am : link
Now I feel better. He’s coming off a bad spell with Boston but he was injured a bit. He ain’t that old. Come to msg and shine, Kemba. Why not.
Kemba has somrthing to prove  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 10:10 am : link
is he the same? no but this isnt Baron Davis completely washed

IM COMING HOME, IM COMING HOME, TELL THE WORLD IM COMING HOME
RE: I AM GIDDY  
djm : 8/4/2021 10:11 am : link
In comment 15321990 Heisenberg said:
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I mean, I know he's basically cooked, but I am giddy. I fucking love Kemba.


We don’t know that he’s cooked. He was coming off injury. This might be a steal.
Kemba  
Earl the goat : 8/4/2021 10:11 am : link
Doesn’t play defense. Will see how him and Thibs gets along
RE: Kemba  
Strahan91 : 8/4/2021 10:12 am : link
In comment 15322000 Earl the goat said:
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Doesn’t play defense. Will see how him and Thibs gets along

Thibs gets along quite well with Rose. They’re about on the same level defensively
RE: Most likely will be for minimum  
Enzo : 8/4/2021 10:12 am : link
In comment 15321980 nygiants16 said:
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and then still have 8 million for somewhere else

or we're paying him with our cap room and the buyout with OKC is for less than amount.
yeah im not sure he is cooked at all..  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 10:12 am : link
he is two seasons removed from getting a huge contract. He gets a more normal offseason to get healthy. This could be a huge add, and if he sucks, so what we arent paying him 20 mill a year.
RE: RE: That’s awesome  
UConn4523 : 8/4/2021 10:13 am : link
In comment 15321992 Anakim said:
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In comment 15321985 UConn4523 said:


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Kemba at the Garden is special to me. Not a Knicks fan but I’m definitely going to watch Knick games to see him play.



That game-winning shot against Pitt? Epic.


Yes and the BET as a whole in 2011 he averaged 26 ppg.
All of the available PG’s have their warts  
Strahan91 : 8/4/2021 10:13 am : link
but give me Kemba on a cheap possibly min deal over any of the others at their contract numbers.
A healthy kemba and i can get behind this...  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 10:14 am : link
Kemba/Rose
Fournier/IQ
RJ/Burks
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Noel
RE: yeah im not sure he is cooked at all..  
ajr2456 : 8/4/2021 10:14 am : link
In comment 15322006 Italianju said:
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he is two seasons removed from getting a huge contract. He gets a more normal offseason to get healthy. This could be a huge add, and if he sucks, so what we arent paying him 20 mill a year.


He’s definitely not old Kemba but I don’t think he’s cooked yet
RE: Kemba  
djm : 8/4/2021 10:14 am : link
In comment 15322000 Earl the goat said:
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Doesn’t play defense. Will see how him and Thibs gets along


Friendly reminder that the Knicks led the league in defense last year despite not possessing many good defenders. At any given point the Knicks would maybe have one or two known good defenders on the floor.

Thibs coached teams play defense no matter who’s playing.
RE: RE: I AM GIDDY  
Heisenberg : 8/4/2021 10:16 am : link
In comment 15321999 djm said:
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I mean, I know he's basically cooked, but I am giddy. I fucking love Kemba.



We don’t know that he’s cooked. He was coming off injury. This might be a steal.


Knee been a problem since early 2020. Not super optimistic that it will be improved at this point in his career. Hopefully they can manage his load until playoff time.
Celtics basically traded a boatload of draft picks  
Anakim : 8/4/2021 10:17 am : link
and took on Al Horford's contract only to see Fournier and Kemba come to New York
RE: RE: Kemba  
Enzo : 8/4/2021 10:17 am : link
In comment 15322012 djm said:
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Doesn’t play defense. Will see how him and Thibs gets along



Friendly reminder that the Knicks led the league in defense last year despite not possessing many good defenders. At any given point the Knicks would maybe have one or two known good defenders on the floor.

Thibs coached teams play defense no matter who’s playing.

that's not true. His defenses in Minnesota were all terrible.
And I'd say Reggie/Burks/Noel/Mitch/Randle/RJ/Taj are all average to above average defenders.
I thought..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/4/2021 10:18 am : link
Charlotte felt he had a degenerative condition in the knee - was that not true?
he didn't play back to backs  
Enzo : 8/4/2021 10:19 am : link
last season and had to have his mins managed. The front office is going to have to really get in synch with Thibs when it comes to how much this guy plays this year.
Worth the risk  
GMEN46 : 8/4/2021 10:19 am : link
And just happy that it’s not Schroeder. What is his injury issues, are they knee related?
RE: Most likely will be for minimum  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 10:21 am : link
In comment 15321980 nygiants16 said:
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and then still have 8 million for somewhere else


All 8 to Walker per Fischer
RE: RE: Kemba  
mfsd : 8/4/2021 10:21 am : link
In comment 15322012 djm said:
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Doesn’t play defense. Will see how him and Thibs gets along



Friendly reminder that the Knicks led the league in defense last year despite not possessing many good defenders. At any given point the Knicks would maybe have one or two known good defenders on the floor.

Thibs coached teams play defense no matter who’s playing.


Agree, but I think they’re going to miss Bullock on defense. He did a really good job against opposing teams top guard/wing every night.

But that ship has sailed...love the Kemba move. If unable to land a legit all star, Kemba seems a low cost/good upside gamble
RE: he didn't play back to backs  
Anakim : 8/4/2021 10:22 am : link
In comment 15322019 Enzo said:
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last season and had to have his mins managed. The front office is going to have to really get in synch with Thibs when it comes to how much this guy plays this year.


So the games Kemba doesn't play, D-Rose will play...and vice-versa. Haha
Love this signing  
Mike in NJ : 8/4/2021 10:22 am : link
Can basically have him and Rose split the PG duties (which should keep them both healthy by limiting minutes), and have solid depth behind them with Quickley, Burks, McBride in the event that one of them needs a night off with load management.

Even if they are signing him for the full $8 mil in remaining space we have, it is well worth the risk when considering the potential upside.
Well we're not a title contender  
bceagle05 : 8/4/2021 10:22 am : link
but we have a talented roster with depth at every position - and young talent to develop at every position. We've come a long way in a year and a half.
Even being hurt last year  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 10:23 am : link
he was 19 and 5
RE: RE: Most likely will be for minimum  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 10:23 am : link
In comment 15322022 DanMetroMan said:
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and then still have 8 million for somewhere else



All 8 to Walker per Fischer


yeah jist saw that
hopefully it's  
Enzo : 8/4/2021 10:26 am : link
just for two years at 2/16. If the knee is wrecked and you have to eat the $8 million next year it's not the end of the world.

I'm asuming he gave OKC a discount on the buyout because of the new Knick money. But that's still a lot of dead cap money for two years.
not surprised he got all 8...  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 10:27 am : link
its still fine.

Managing his minutes and back to backs should be easy with our guard depth. I know he isnt all star kemba but we are a much better team now then we were last year. Walker/Fournier vs elf/Bullock is huge. I mean half the year i would have traded bullock for a bag of ball, couldnt even hit the open 3. Yes he got better, but fournier is a large upgrade.
RE: I thought..  
Heisenberg : 8/4/2021 10:28 am : link
In comment 15322018 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Charlotte felt he had a degenerative condition in the knee - was that not true?


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On Wednesday afternoon, Boston Celtics All-Star point guard Kemba Walker spoke with the media about his knee for the first time since it was announced that the UConn product will miss the start of the 2020-21 campaign as he allows a stem cell injection and knee strengthening regimen do their work.

The New Yorker was his usual upbeat self, and while he was admittedly not especially well-versed in the technical side of his treatment situation or the problem behind it, the stem cell treatment was a focal point of the questions he fielded.


He got a stem cell treatment at the beginning of the year. Then really couldn't play consistently all season and had to skip games in the playoffs. He's hopeful that a good offseason will help it. Doesn't seem like something I'd bet on happening.

If the knee is good, he's the best PG the Knicks have had in a LONG time. Definitely worth the risk.
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Best Knicks point guard situation since...  
widmerseyebrow : 8/4/2021 10:28 am : link
?
Managing Rose and Kemba minutes should also  
mfsd : 8/4/2021 10:29 am : link
be easier if they’re (hoepfully) back to a normal schedule that doesn’t have as many games and back to backs crammed in per week
and im not worried bout thibs killing kemba...  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 10:31 am : link
cause its not like he is going to bury Rose on the bench. Sure i guess you can play them together for stretches, but i dont see why you would.

Hopefully a more normal offseason and schedule next year will help Kemba.
RE: Best Knicks point guard situation since...  
Heisenberg : 8/4/2021 10:31 am : link
In comment 15322036 widmerseyebrow said:
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Rod Strickland and Mark Jackson lol
RE: hopefully it's  
ajr2456 : 8/4/2021 10:32 am : link
In comment 15322032 Enzo said:
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just for two years at 2/16. If the knee is wrecked and you have to eat the $8 million next year it's not the end of the world.

I'm asuming he gave OKC a discount on the buyout because of the new Knick money. But that's still a lot of dead cap money for two years.


I’d assume they’ll be an exhibit 3 clause wiping that money out if the knee gets hurt again
and Kemba is 100% someone..  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 10:32 am : link
who can make his own offense. So sure our D took a bit of a hit, but we took a starting backcourt that couldnt do anything on offense and added to shot creators. Thats huge.
RE: RE: I thought..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/4/2021 10:32 am : link
In comment 15322035 Heisenberg said:
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Charlotte felt he had a degenerative condition in the knee - was that not true?





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On Wednesday afternoon, Boston Celtics All-Star point guard Kemba Walker spoke with the media about his knee for the first time since it was announced that the UConn product will miss the start of the 2020-21 campaign as he allows a stem cell injection and knee strengthening regimen do their work.

The New Yorker was his usual upbeat self, and while he was admittedly not especially well-versed in the technical side of his treatment situation or the problem behind it, the stem cell treatment was a focal point of the questions he fielded.



He got a stem cell treatment at the beginning of the year. Then really couldn't play consistently all season and had to skip games in the playoffs. He's hopeful that a good offseason will help it. Doesn't seem like something I'd bet on happening.

If the knee is good, he's the best PG the Knicks have had in a LONG time. Definitely worth the risk. Link - ( New Window )


Thanks for the background. Does sound like it could be a degenerative condition - but the risk is minimal in the signing.
I will say this again  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 10:34 am : link
who is Trae guarding?
RE: RE: Best Knicks point guard situation since...  
Enzo : 8/4/2021 10:34 am : link
In comment 15322044 Heisenberg said:
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Rod Strickland and Mark Jackson lol

If Kemba is healthy, this is correct - excluding Linsanity of course.
As a UConn/Celtics fan  
illmatic : 8/4/2021 10:34 am : link
I’m really happy for Kemba that he gets to go back to the northeast and play in his home area on the big stage. Hopefully he gets past the knee issues.
Love  
Jon in NYC : 8/4/2021 10:34 am : link
it. When things were looking bleak, Rose and Co pulled off a great move.

Kemba won't need to be a 35+ MPG player anymore. With Rose in the mix he can play 28 minutes, Rose can play 20. Maybe even split more.
From Tommy Beer. This is some great shit.  
Beezer : 8/4/2021 10:35 am : link

In EACH of his last five seasons, Kemba Walker has averaged more than 19 points, more than 4 assists and 3+ made 3-pointers per game.

In the 75-year history of the New York Knicks franchise, no PG has EVER averaged at least 19 points, 4 dimes and 3 treys in ANY single season.
Tommy Beer  
bceagle05 : 8/4/2021 10:36 am : link
can pull out the most random of stats at a moment's notice. That's a good one though.
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