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NFT: Kemba Walker to the Knicks

Strahan91 : 8/4/2021 10:01 am
OKC is buying him out and signing with the Knicks. No word on the contract
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Knicks opening night starting PG since 2009  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/4/2021 11:23 am : link
2009: Chris Duhon
2010: Ray Felton
2011: Toney Douglas
2012: Ray Felton
2013: Pablo Prigioni
2014: Shane Larkin
2015: Jose Calderon
2016: Derrick Rose
2017: Ramon Sessions
2018: Trey Burke
2019: Allonzo Trier
2020: Elfrid Payton
RE: .  
Jon in NYC : 8/4/2021 11:24 am : link
In comment 15322149 DanMetroMan said:
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Lost in the Kemba love... we get to watch Rokas, Grimes, McBride, IQ, Obi, Sims, Vildoza starting Sunday... oh and Knox


This is an event Obi should absolutely be dominating.
Obi  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 11:27 am : link
and Sims should put on a show dunk wise. Sims might be the most impressive leaper I've ever seen at 6'10, not even kidding.
I really thought Allonzo Trier  
Enzo : 8/4/2021 11:28 am : link
would be a legit guard in this league. I guess he went undrafted for a reason.
RE: Obi  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/4/2021 11:29 am : link
In comment 15322159 DanMetroMan said:
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and Sims should put on a show dunk wise. Sims might be the most impressive leaper I've ever seen at 6'10, not even kidding.


Being honest, he looks more explosive athletically than Mitch.

His footwork on defense and his ability to shadow 1 on 1 is impressive.
RE: Knicks opening night starting PG since 2009  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 11:29 am : link
In comment 15322151 Jim in Fairfax said:
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2009: Chris Duhon
2010: Ray Felton
2011: Toney Douglas
2012: Ray Felton
2013: Pablo Prigioni
2014: Shane Larkin
2015: Jose Calderon
2016: Derrick Rose
2017: Ramon Sessions
2018: Trey Burke
2019: Allonzo Trier
2020: Elfrid Payton


Larkin actually went to Europe and became a very good player.... small hands and all lol
RE: RE: Obi  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 11:35 am : link
In comment 15322164 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 15322159 DanMetroMan said:


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and Sims should put on a show dunk wise. Sims might be the most impressive leaper I've ever seen at 6'10, not even kidding.



Being honest, he looks more explosive athletically than Mitch.

His footwork on defense and his ability to shadow 1 on 1 is impressive.


There is a reason he was available at 58 but his leaping/foot work on defense are really, really impressive. I'd go as far as to say if the Knicks can't develop him into at least a rotation big, that's a bit of a fail. He's 6'10 240, can jump out of the gym, can shift his feet like a guy much, much smaller. The basket looks less than 10 feet at times.
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Is Baron Davis still alive? Can we get him too?  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/4/2021 11:36 am : link
I love Kemba as a UConn fan but this probably will end up as a move that fizzles due to injury. We shall see.

SGA just signed a contract for 200M, Knox better be motivated. What a miss.

So no Dame? All that rationalization for nothing? Just get the best players, period. Draft well and we don’t need to trade 12 picks for someone else’s players.
RE: RE: RE: Obi  
robbieballs2003 : 8/4/2021 11:37 am : link
In comment 15322173 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15322159 DanMetroMan said:


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and Sims should put on a show dunk wise. Sims might be the most impressive leaper I've ever seen at 6'10, not even kidding.



Being honest, he looks more explosive athletically than Mitch.

His footwork on defense and his ability to shadow 1 on 1 is impressive.



There is a reason he was available at 58 but his leaping/foot work on defense are really, really impressive. I'd go as far as to say if the Knicks can't develop him into at least a rotation big, that's a bit of a fail. He's 6'10 240, can jump out of the gym, can shift his feet like a guy much, much smaller. The basket looks less than 10 feet at times. Link - ( New Window )


He's also very efficient on the offensive end which tells me he plays smart, knows his limitations, and is able to convert when he takes his chances.
Vork  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 11:39 am : link
"Not much, probably. This was one last bang to this offseason. The Knicks are almost out of roster spots — depending on what kind of contract McBride signs and whether they keep Vildoza under contract — and almost out of money. They still have their $4.9 million room exception, so they can use it to sign someone. The Knicks still need more wings, so we’ll see if they keep searching for one."
RE: Is Baron Davis still alive? Can we get him too?  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 11:40 am : link
In comment 15322176 Jim in Hoboken said:
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I love Kemba as a UConn fan but this probably will end up as a move that fizzles due to injury. We shall see.

SGA just signed a contract for 200M, Knox better be motivated. What a miss.

So no Dame? All that rationalization for nothing? Just get the best players, period. Draft well and we don’t need to trade 12 picks for someone else’s players.


Baron Davis is pushing 300 pounds (video of him balling came out last week or the week before). He's big into the film industry now (he's directed a movie etc). I know you were kidding when asking, just a legit update lol
RE: Vork  
Heisenberg : 8/4/2021 11:44 am : link
In comment 15322179 DanMetroMan said:
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"Not much, probably. This was one last bang to this offseason. The Knicks are almost out of roster spots — depending on what kind of contract McBride signs and whether they keep Vildoza under contract — and almost out of money. They still have their $4.9 million room exception, so they can use it to sign someone. The Knicks still need more wings, so we’ll see if they keep searching for one."


Could definitely see Knox out going in a sign and trade for a wing. maybe they feed him the ball to try and raise his value next week in Vegas lol.
Seems  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 11:47 am : link
tough to see a scenario the new David Wingate aka Theo Pinson is back
agree with Dan on Sims  
JJ2525 : 8/4/2021 11:48 am : link
Texas was a better team with him on the floor than with Jones most of the time last year.
RE: RE: Is Baron Davis still alive? Can we get him too?  
Heisenberg : 8/4/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15322182 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15322176 Jim in Hoboken said:


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I love Kemba as a UConn fan but this probably will end up as a move that fizzles due to injury. We shall see.

SGA just signed a contract for 200M, Knox better be motivated. What a miss.

So no Dame? All that rationalization for nothing? Just get the best players, period. Draft well and we don’t need to trade 12 picks for someone else’s players.



Baron Davis is pushing 300 pounds (video of him balling came out last week or the week before). He's big into the film industry now (he's directed a movie etc). I know you were kidding when asking, just a legit update lol

And interestingly was in a relationship with actress Laura Dern. Always been kind of a fascinating guy too bad he was definitely cooked when we got our hands on him.

Knox  
GMEN46 : 8/4/2021 11:52 am : link
Has no chance of getting minutes. If I were him I would try bulk up a bit to become a small power forward, not sure that SF is in his future. The kid can shoot though. I actually think OKC would be a great fit they can probably give him 25-30 pressure free minutes per night
RE: I'm stunned  
TyreeHelmet : 8/4/2021 11:53 am : link
In comment 15322144 Jon in NYC said:
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the Thunder are going to pay him to walk. Curious how much they took on.


They got 2 future 1sts for taking him on. This also helps their tank by keeping his dead money on their books.

This won't be close to the deciding factor, but this can't help the SGA situation. Besides Dort their is nothing around him.
RE: agree with Dan on Sims  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 11:54 am : link
In comment 15322194 JJ2525 said:
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Texas was a better team with him on the floor than with Jones most of the time last year.


He knows where to be on the court, does the little things. Again, he fell to 58 so we'll see but I think he's going to help them down the line.
In terms of roster spots  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 11:55 am : link
Conceivably they could use two-way deals on Sims/McBride
RE: Obi  
Stu11 : 8/4/2021 11:56 am : link
In comment 15322159 DanMetroMan said:
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and Sims should put on a show dunk wise. Sims might be the most impressive leaper I've ever seen at 6'10, not even kidding.

I loved that draft night highlight they showed where he banged his forehead on the rim during some sort of dunk contest lol. He walked away rubbing it. The dude definitely has hops.
Kelly oubre  
GMEN46 : 8/4/2021 11:57 am : link
Is he still unsigned? Are there any teams with cap space left?
Kanter  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 12:01 pm : link
signs with Boston
,  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 12:01 pm : link
Jonathan Macri
@JCMacriNBA
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3m
One note here: Room exception contracts are limited to 2 years, as are min. contracts signed once a team is over the cap. Essentially, if the Knicks want to sign Deuce McBride for more than 2 years, they must do so out of cap space BEFORE they give all their remaining $$ to Kemba
RE: ,  
Jon in NYC : 8/4/2021 12:05 pm : link
In comment 15322215 DanMetroMan said:
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Jonathan Macri
@JCMacriNBA
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3m
One note here: Room exception contracts are limited to 2 years, as are min. contracts signed once a team is over the cap. Essentially, if the Knicks want to sign Deuce McBride for more than 2 years, they must do so out of cap space BEFORE they give all their remaining $$ to Kemba


Well this is certainly one reason to waive Vildoza
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/4/2021 12:22 pm : link
Nice! Like this move!
The  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 12:23 pm : link
East is going to be loaded this season. The Knicks can be a better team and still finish 6-8 seed.
Yeah, I don't expect the floor this year is the 4 seed.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/4/2021 12:26 pm : link
They will have to fight just as hard as they did last season to make it.
Figure  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 12:31 pm : link
Bucks, Nets, Sixers, Hawks, Miami, Improved Bulls team, Pacers, Boston... not looking to debate where the Knicks fall but hard to envision them being a top 4 seed this year.
RE: Figure  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 12:31 pm : link
In comment 15322237 DanMetroMan said:
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Bucks, Nets, Sixers, Hawks, Miami, Improved Bulls team, Pacers, Boston... not looking to debate where the Knicks fall but hard to envision them being a top 4 seed this year.


Wasn't suggesting I'd take all of these teams over the Knicks, just listing "good" teams.
There really is no downside to the Kemba deal  
PhilSimms15 : 8/4/2021 12:32 pm : link
—takes up very little cap space
—maintains all the picks and young players for a major deal
—Rose should not play more than 20-25 minutes per night and same for Walker. Great sharing opportunity.
—brings another player who can create their own shot
—Kemba is one of the most liked and respected voices in the entire league
..  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 12:38 pm : link
Now trade mitch, obi, knox and vildoza for Turner 😉
RE: Figure  
NYG22 : 8/4/2021 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15322237 DanMetroMan said:
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Bucks, Nets, Sixers, Hawks, Miami, Improved Bulls team, Pacers, Boston... not looking to debate where the Knicks fall but hard to envision them being a top 4 seed this year.


Yep, I think we can say with certainty that the forecast looks bleak for NYK to be above: Bucks, Nets, Sixers, Hawks, Heat

For the others:

Celtics: Tatum and Brown are terrific but I see little else there to suggest their arrow is pointing up.

Bulls: Much needs to shake out w the expected Markaanan trade. Lavine, Ball and Derozan are a nice threesome that likely has good on-court chemistry. Vucevic is always among the top BIGs. They are probably the 6th best East team.

Indiana is a total mystery. I see no reason why they should be slated above NYK.

Charlotte is no doubt a very watchable team. I'd still rank NYK over them.
Indiana's problem last year was injury and coaching.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/4/2021 12:50 pm : link
They hated their coach and their impact players were hurt. They'll be a tough out.
seems like the Pacers  
Enzo : 8/4/2021 12:53 pm : link
have a really good starting 5 (Brogdon, Lavert, Sabonis, Turner, Warren) but not a lot of depth.
im interested to see how PHI does....  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 12:54 pm : link
i mean embiid is amazing, but if simmons is a mess is that team really that talented? Tobias is solid, Seth curry i guess. Just seems when you are looking around the east some of these teams just look much more talented.
The Hawks are still good obviously  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 12:57 pm : link
but did they really improve? unless trae has another level and if he does good lord, but i dont think they added anything this offseason..
RE: ..  
djm : 8/4/2021 12:59 pm : link
In comment 15322241 nygiants16 said:
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Now trade mitch, obi, knox and vildoza for Turner 😉


Eww. Tuner aint that good, i mean he's probably worth that, but not sure that's a gamble worth taking. I am at the point now where I only want to deal assets for a super star. Guys like Turner are somewhat fungible, fully aware he's a stretch rim protector.
RE: The Hawks are still good obviously  
Enzo : 8/4/2021 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15322259 nygiants16 said:
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but did they really improve? unless trae has another level and if he does good lord, but i dont think they added anything this offseason..

they were never really healthy for much of last season. If they only get better injury luck their regular season record will be better. And several rotation pieces are still young enough that it's reasonable to assume they'll improve.
RE: The Hawks are still good obviously  
giants#1 : 8/4/2021 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15322259 nygiants16 said:
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but did they really improve? unless trae has another level and if he does good lord, but i dont think they added anything this offseason..


He's 22, why wouldn't he improve?
RE: The Hawks are still good obviously  
DanMetroMan : 8/4/2021 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15322259 nygiants16 said:
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but did they really improve? unless trae has another level and if he does good lord, but i dont think they added anything this offseason..


Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper are solid additions and they clearly were a different team once McMillen took over. They are better than the Knicks until proven otherwise.
Check out the splits from before and after the hawks fired the coach  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/4/2021 1:01 pm : link
If the post-firing hawks are the real hawks, they are going to be far better in the regular season this time.
RE: RE: The Hawks are still good obviously  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15322262 Enzo said:
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In comment 15322259 nygiants16 said:


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but did they really improve? unless trae has another level and if he does good lord, but i dont think they added anything this offseason..


they were never really healthy for much of last season. If they only get better injury luck their regular season record will be better. And several rotation pieces are still young enough that it's reasonable to assume they'll improve.


yeah what i am saying is was what we saw in the playoffs their ceiling?

Huerter really played well in the playoffs, Bogdanavich was very good but is already 29, Gallo is older, Collins i guess can improve, Capela is what he is, Lou williams is probably gone,

Hunter is the guy that adds another dimension to them if he is healthy
RE: RE: The Hawks are still good obviously  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 1:04 pm : link
In comment 15322264 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15322259 nygiants16 said:


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but did they really improve? unless trae has another level and if he does good lord, but i dont think they added anything this offseason..



Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper are solid additions and they clearly were a different team once McMillen took over. They are better than the Knicks until proven otherwise.


i am not saying they arent, just think what we saw in the playoffs is what their ceiling is
Turner  
GMEN46 : 8/4/2021 1:05 pm : link
Not willing to trade mitch and Obi for tuner. Let’s run with Mitch and hope he stays healthy. Defensive stats with him on the floor are really good and he should be able to get 12 pts a night rather easily.
I could see Trae being impacted by the unnatural shooting motion  
widmerseyebrow : 8/4/2021 1:13 pm : link
stuff the NBA is pushing. Then again he's still a good player and if he improves his 3 ball...
nba has to get rid of that...  
Italianju : 8/4/2021 1:20 pm : link
its so dumb. Been nice to see it not called in the olympics (for the little ive seen with the time diff). Its funny that the international game is now the more physical game. NBA has really over corrected, its absurd. I know they think exciting means the games have to be 125-120.
Berman says Pinson  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2021 1:37 pm : link
will be back on a two way with Simms probably taking the other
RE: Berman says Pinson  
Heisenberg : 8/4/2021 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15322304 nygiants16 said:
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will be back on a two way with Simms probably taking the other


The Clemson Simms, I assume?
RE: Turner  
TheMick7 : 8/4/2021 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15322272 GMEN46 said:
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Not willing to trade mitch and Obi for tuner. Let’s run with Mitch and hope he stays healthy. Defensive stats with him on the floor are really good and he should be able to get 12 pts a night rather easily.


I know Mitch has put on some weight & gotten stronger,but can he handle centers like Capela. Capela ate up Noel & threw him around like a rag doll in the playoffs,it was why Gibson saw so much time.I'm willing to wait & see, but I would do Mitch for Turner & include extras,but not Obi!
RE: Berman says Pinson  
Del Shofner : 8/4/2021 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15322304 nygiants16 said:
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will be back on a two way with Simms probably taking the other


Simms or Sims?
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